View Full Version : National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive May 9th, 2007


BlueMoose
05-24-07, 02:48 PM
I´ve been reading here in past threads about Patriot Act, National and
Homeland Security, couldnt find those, so here is the latest (?) news.

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The Bush administration has released a directive called the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive. The directive released on May 9th, 2007 has gone almost unnoticed by the mainstream and alternative media. This is understandable considering the huge Ron Paul and immigration news but this story is equally as huge. In this directive, Bush declares that in the event of a “Catastrophic Emergency”, the President will be entrusted with leading the activities to ensure constitutional government. The language in this directive would in effect make the President a dictator in the case of such an emergency.
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full story...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ROG20070521&articleId=5721

How many of you living there in US did notice this in news media ?

Ganymede
05-24-07, 03:18 PM
I´ve been reading here in past threads about Patriot Act, National and
Homeland Security, couldnt find them, so here is the latest (?) news.

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The Bush administration has released a directive called the National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive. The directive released on May 9th, 2007 has gone almost unnoticed by the mainstream and alternative media. This is understandable considering the huge Ron Paul and immigration news but this story is equally as huge. In this directive, Bush declares that in the event of a “Catastrophic Emergency”, the President will be entrusted with leading the activities to ensure constitutional government. The language in this directive would in effect make the President a dictator in the case of such an emergency.
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full story...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ROG20070521&articleId=5721

How many of you living there in US did notice this in news media ?


I noticed it. The Right Wing wants a Dictatorship in this country. Now they've gotten their wish. The one party system lives!

leopold99
05-24-07, 03:19 PM
the president has always been able to do that. it's called martial law and has been used since the founding of the nation.

BlueMoose
05-24-07, 03:26 PM
So why this directive had to be done ? Just for fun ? What is the difference
between Martial Law and this directive?

leopold99
05-24-07, 03:30 PM
let me check out the link.

Pandaemoni
05-24-07, 03:37 PM
I don't think this is anything to worry about. Reading it over (full text here (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html)), I don't think it permits the President to "take over" the government. It reassigns the roles of running executive branch activities and delegates responsibility for "coordinating" the activities of the executive, legislative and judicial branches. (Which suggests, if nothing else, that the legislative and judicial branches will still exist).

It defines:

"Enduring Constitutional Government," or "ECG," means a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government, coordinated by the President, as a matter of comity with respect to the legislative and judicial branches and with proper respect for the constitutional separation of powers among the branches, to preserve the constitutional framework under which the Nation is governed and the capability of all three branches of government to execute constitutional responsibilities and provide for orderly succession, appropriate transition of leadership, and interoperability and support of the National Essential Functions during a catastrophic emergency;

There's no need to read anything terribly sinister in it. All my clients have "disaster management" strategies that (while a little less detailed) are precisely the same sort of thing.

At the end of the day in the event of any pretextual catastrophe where the executive attempts to hedge out the judicial and legislative branches, those two branches will scream to high heaven and the people will turn against the executive. In the event of a real catastrophe, the short-term importance of those two branches really does fall off, and the executive should expect wide latitude from them in re-establishing order and security.

Basically this document tells the members of the executive branch what to do in an emergency. The President would be overstepping his bounds to include instructions specifically for the other branches, so the document doesn't cover that, but rather assumes those other sets of procedures will exist.

leopold99
05-24-07, 03:37 PM
from what i can tell there isn't that much to be concerned about.
minor details are in the homeland security having jurisdiction whereas before it was FEMA.

leopold99
05-24-07, 03:40 PM
some info about martial law:
http://www.answers.com/topic/martial-law

BlueMoose
05-24-07, 03:59 PM
Thanks for responses, its not like I´m seeing demons to come for this,
its just intresting why in the first place these directives had to be done.
There must be some reasoning behind these directives, and since I´m no
lawyer and english is not my native language its kinda hard to understand
that "legislation-language" in some parts.
Usually there must be heavy reasons when something has to be changed
in legislation.
Time to educate myself, intresting issue.

BlueMoose
05-25-07, 03:50 AM
What I have learned so far...
To put it roughly, National Security&Homeland Security and Martial Law do
have a big difference, the former is much more sofisticated tool to control
civilian population, it reaches its influence on everything.

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(b) "Catastrophic Emergency" means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions;
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html

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The document designates a National Continuity Coordinator, who would be the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism.

Currently holding that post is Frances Fragos Townsend.

She is required to develop a National Continuity Implementation Plan and submit it within 90 days.

As part of that plan, she is not only to devise procedures for the Executive Branch but also give guidance to “state, local, territorial, and tribal governments, and private sector owners and operators of critical infrastructure.”

The secretary of Homeland Security is also directed to develop planning guidance for “private sector critical infrastructure owners and operators,” as well as state, local, territorial, and tribal governments.

The document gives the Vice President a role in implementing the provisions of the contingency plans.

“This directive shall be implanted in a manner that is consistent with, and facilitates effective implementation of, provisions of the Constitution concerning succession to the Presidency or the exercise of its powers, and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 USC 19), with the consultation of the Vice President and, as appropriate, others involved.”

The document also contains “classified Continuity Annexes.”
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http://progressive.org/mag_wx051807

What intrests me now is those classified annexes... :cool:

Martial Law is control by military and so for its quite a rough tool.

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Temporary rule by military authorities, imposed on a civilian population especially in time of war or when civil authority has broken down.
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http://www.answers.com/topic/martial-law

C U later for more..or not. ;)

Zerogara
06-05-07, 12:06 PM
the president has always been able to do that. it's called martial law and has been used since the founding of the nation.

I am no constitution expert but I heard from an "expert" in the xonstitution that the US is about the ONLY democratic country that since its founding the founders tried hard to find a way to eliminate the possibility of marshall law as to give ultimate power to the president and dismiss all other poltical powers. therefore there would be no guarantee that democracy returns. So there is a provision in there that prohibits a single political power (military, court, legislative, white house) of taking control with out the checks and balances system.
Well in a way the Patriot act and the Homeland security acts are unconstitutional but nobody has challenged their constitutionality. This directive is based on those acts. it is the straw that broke the camel's back.
Out go all immigrants, legal or illegal, to maintain the Anglican superiority.
Closed go all the borders for imports and exports unless it is for "security" reasons. The economy nearly collapses but a new currency is developed to cancel all foreign debt (A LOT).
Concentration camps full of lefties and dissidents of all shorts (they have been built and remain unused for more than 20 years).
The CIA runs the FBI .... need I say more? Curfews in almost every downtown area past working hours :)

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