View Full Version : National Security Agency and your privacy


debt
08-18-04, 01:13 AM
The NSA(National Security Agency for those who are unfamiliar) is an agency that is devoted to gathering intelligence in all parts of the world and world-renown for it's incredible secrecy. They have SIGINT posts from D.C to Fiji. It is known that they stay 5 years AHEAD the state of the art. Which, to the lay person, means that the most cutting-edge technology and scientific advancements we SEE today are already 5 years old when compared to that of the NSA.

The passing of the U.S Patriot, as much as we all hate it, as actually already been passed about 80 times in the National Security Agency. NSA has been allowed to tap into any type of civilian electronic transmissions since the Cold War. The National Security Agency is also(visibly) known for it's extremely large budget. It is the world's largest employer for mathematicians and electrical engineers.

During the Vietnam war, they used a radio transmitting device that was disguised as a small turd(about 6 inches long and..it was a damn turd) to listen in on advancing guerillas.

Anywho, with that said, do you(if you haven't already) honestly think 9/11 wasn't preventable? WITH THAT SAID, would you sacrifice your privacy(knowing that you haven't already) to save future lives in the United States? Better yet, does your privacy even matter? I understand, if you're concerned that the NSA could sell your information for commerical gains(demographic reasons, or whatever). Even more intriguing, do you even matter(in unpatriotic terms)?

In the 60's the NSA had a program that(I forget the name) was allowed to eavesdrop on all civilians suspected of criminal or unamerican activities. John Lennon was the one of the many on the list.

Believe it or not, if you do a search on CNN.com, or watch CNN, they will never mention the NSA. They mention it only as a "very credible source of intelligence."

They HAVE(indisputable) machines, programs, that will take in what you say, or type, and compare it to a list. The list is composed of trigger-words that when found in the interception, are blacklisted for further analysis. If they find anything of use in the interception it keeps going up levels, and depending on what level it gets to, shows how threatening it is to national security. It's times like these that these machines, and programs are crucial as it is known that there are Al Quieda cells operating in the US.

The NSA listens in on us, I'm not going to dispute that, whether it pisses you off or not; it shouldn't. I can understand that if you have some incredible idea or invention you want to get out there make big bucks, so you can destroy big corporations like Microsoft or IBM, but the NSA would have the upper hand and sell what they know about it to these very corporations. I can see if that stuff goes on than, yeah, I'd be pretty pissed off. But it seems like it doesn't and unless you are going to be starting a riot, or committing a major crime anytime soon, I don't think the government's going to blacklist you.

The fact is, they hear everything we say, and probably know what some of us are doing, but unless you are doing something extremely bad than I don't think there is anything wrong with trans tapping. Privacy is an issue, but like I said before; do you even matter in the big scheme of things? The people intercepting your message will just right you off just as they would the next civilian. Haha, it's a little poetic I guess; get off your ass...get blacklisted!

James R
08-18-04, 07:57 PM
The ultra-secretive NSA has a web site, if you're interested.

debt
08-18-04, 09:42 PM
The ultra-secretive NSA has a web site, if you're interested.


Yeah, I know. They are on a hiring streak for the next 5 years. Their goal is 1000 per year. Still doesn't take away from how incredibly secret they are.

Gravity
08-29-04, 08:17 AM
I read a great book about them a few years back, called "The Puzzle Palace" - I'm sure if you Google on it you'll find it.