Nanorobotics vs Biorobotics

this is a continued discussion from "cloning"

no months away let me pull up the citation... by the time the first nanorobot comes out biorobots of the virus and single cell prokaryote size will be use for everything! making drugs, fibers, gene therapy, we could design higher organism as well like dinosaur, dragons, super humans like the "Nexus" seen in blade runner ect. Biorobots only rot because there parts are edible. If you look at it from affair both technologies are nanorobotics its just mine is in the well studied and developed field of carbon based and your is all hypothetical scifi of silicon based!

 

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Nanotech is much more versatile...once you can build from the atoms up, you can build anything. No reason to not use both, but once nanotech becomes possible, the revolution begins...possibly too fast, if we're not careful. I wouldn't be surprised if nanotech causes the Singularity effect some anticipate in the next 20 years.

 

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you people are still let down by the word "bio"! Biorobitics is nanorobotics! we have total control over the organism so we can make it do anything! ANYTHING! we can do and make anything just give us enough time! ever read the story "Blood Music" mad scientist make a biorobot that will make him immortal but the little super critter become self aware and turn him and all life on earth into one titanic gelatinous super intelligent blob!

 

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Technically bio means based on organics, such as RNA mechanisms, while nano can be anything atomic sized. Bio could qualify as a type of nano, but the two aren't really the same thing.

Which is "best"? Depends on what you want to do, and how soon you want it done.

 

the mechanism for biology are nanometers in size there for if you make a organism from scatch taht you can command to do a task then you have made a nanorobot.

Here is a story form CNN it not as detail or intesting as the one from scentific american but I can't find that one

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http://www.cnn.com/1999/HEALTH/12/10/simplest.cell/

basically a group of scientist are making a organism form scratch to test protein pathways and see what makes a living organism alive! Once they crack all the proteins need for cell survival and replication we can improve upon it and make organism that do basic task that no natural organism does.

 

Biorobotics could definately be done now..we're seeing that to an extent i think..gene therapy etc. Nanorobotics will be a decade or so behind the first large scale growing of biorobotics i think.

 

Yes and in the end biorobotic and nanobotics will be one and we will all be live in supercomputers betwenn dimensions

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in the 50s, they said by the year 2000 we'd all be living on Mars and cruising around in nuclear powered hovercrafts.

technology only moves as fast as society wants it to move. people are scared of biotech creations, so even if there isn't legislation banning them, i think the market will be small enough that companies won't waste money reseaching in that direction

 

OH THERE IS LOTS OF MONEY TO BE MADE HERE! believe me people will pay everything ot cure whats killing them and that just what biorobotics was ment for

 

and that's just what nanites could do too - and a lot more cleaner, safer, more harmless to the host organism

you never know what mutations an organic based life may develop

 

inorganic can be very harmful to a host organism! again you people are thinking like biorobotics is some improvement of biotech... no biorobotics will be SAFE, CLEAN and HARMLESS! We have complete control over the machine there will not be a reaction or event that we could not have predicted ahead of time!

ok ok look at it like this: all I'm arguing is the nanorobot will be made out of organic (carbon) parts rather then silicon.

so tell me how a nanorobot works, what it runs off, how you talk to it. how it thinks, how it replicates... biology got all this thing down for use, all we have to do steal it, mimic it and improve upon it.

 

I've heard that before...

never ever say you can predict everything

I told you how we can talk to it already
we don't know how it thinks - there are not made any nanites
we still have to do research on replication - whych may not be needed - you canorder the old nanites to leave the host and instead pump in new ones

nah - I believe our future is nanotechnology

it can be put into business in many other areas - not just to support a hoas organism
like- searching for raw resources, analysing other planets (imagine a drone which puts on to planets surface billions of nanbots to do research), spies, repairing surfaces it is hard to get to (outside of space stations, deep see structures), etc etc

biorobot will have problems working in space, wouldn't it?

 

And I say the nanites will have to be made out of organic parts! tht all I was geting at to begin with!

And yes you can predict everything it would just take infinity to do so... thats what patchs and upgrades are for.

and once again biorobots can do all the thing you just described! both biorobots and nanorobots would have the same problems working in space because of there nanometer size both will suffer greatly from radiation... but we already know that biology has made organism that can live and grow in the vacum of space or in a nuclear reactor. so it can be done.

 

no use for us talking
we stand in different sides

 

Ok We can leave it at that. Im the biochemist (in training) and you... WHAT 12th grader! what the hell im like "old" for this forum and im only 20!

 

doesn't mean that I am stupid! :bugeye:

besides- if you're a biochemist (a rather young though) then I can perfectly undestand you. You're not interested in any success for silicon based nanotechnology and logically stand and fall for organic based nanotechnology.

 

I'm not saying your stupid! I’m just surprise by your intellect! Don't worry nerders are becoming more common these days.

I don’t have my bachelors yet, I’m just a college student junior year (in credits). Just declared my Major as Biochemist (non-ACS) approved and thinking of maybe getting a Biotech degree to because all I would need is 6 more classes!

 

I figure dryware (mechanical augmentation) and wetware (organic augmentation) will eventually be indistinguishable. You might get nanochondria, tiny machines inside one's cells that help with metabolic functions, that are in fact partly composed of rna and have enzyme tipped "legs".

 

now you got it!, or as we like to say around here welcome to the :m: club!

 

What is with everyone and the hasheesh?

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