View Full Version : Mysterium Tremendum


superluminal
12-09-07, 05:21 PM
Despite everything we really do know about the universe, there are still great mysteries remaining. Every once in a while I'm overcome with the sense of this.

Why is there something instead of nothing? What is the real fate of the cosmos? Is it cyclic? Is it a one-shot deal? Are we in some way part of a much larger multidimensional multi-verse? What exactly is quantum entanglement? Are we the first to ponder this in all the cosmos? Or just another in an infinite series of incarnations of intelligence?

What other things just blow your mind?

lightgigantic
12-09-07, 05:36 PM
Despite everything we really do know about the universe, there are still great mysteries remaining. Every once in a while I'm overcome with the sense of this.

Why is there something instead of nothing? What is the real fate of the cosmos? Is it cyclic? Is it a one-shot deal? Are we in some way part of a much larger multidimensional multi-verse? What exactly is quantum entanglement? Are we the first to ponder this in all the cosmos? Or just another in an infinite series of incarnations of intelligence?

What other things just blow your mind?
it's obvious that we have an endearing quality for the pursuit of knowledge
it's also obvious that the relationship we have with this universe makes such a pursuit futile

what blows my mind is thinking about why this is the case ....
("why do we have a quality that cannot find its proper expression?")

superluminal
12-09-07, 05:40 PM
That's true. The mysteries of the mind rival any cosmological mysteries.

cosmictraveler
12-09-07, 07:00 PM
There will never be a time that humans know it all if anything much.

superluminal
12-09-07, 07:04 PM
There will never be a time that humans know it all if anything much.
Maybe. But sometime the thought of knowing too much scares me. What if we find something that we really, really don't like?

cosmictraveler
12-09-07, 07:06 PM
You mean like ourselves?

lightgigantic
12-09-07, 07:23 PM
There will never be a time that humans know it all if anything much.

which begs the question, how do you know that?
:scratchin:

superluminal
12-09-07, 07:30 PM
He dosen't. That always seems to me to be a bit of false humility. Sure, we may never "know it all", but we just as well may. Will we be depressed? At peace? Overjoyed? Terrified?

lightgigantic
12-09-07, 07:35 PM
Would the final depot for the pursuit of knowledge be exclusively "knowledge of everything"?

(.. sounds like another thing we don't know to me)

superluminal
12-09-07, 07:38 PM
Would the final depot for the pursuit of knowledge be exclusively "knowledge of everything"?

No, I don't think so. Knowing everything is a very mechanical process. I suspect that along with that must come an evolution or maturation of the human mind. Then we may be able to actually understand corectly what we know.

kaneda
12-10-07, 02:26 AM
All lifeforms have knowledge built into them that allows themn to survive, even with little or any intellect, the ant being a goode example. Our thought processes are just tapping into that basic data. It is also down to options. For things low on the evolutionary scale when they meet something other than their own kind, it is fight or run. Some way further up, there are more options and at our level, even more options. Our thought processes are using those options based on past stored experiences of similar situations.

saudade
12-10-07, 06:30 AM
What blow's my mind is life... The chances that a bunch of left-handed amino acids could get together in the right order and gather materials, etc. to create a living cell are astronomical! It's either the most magnificent accident of all time, or god...

Vega
12-10-07, 06:34 AM
To know everything is to be one with the cosmos....some drugs usually help!

cosmictraveler
12-10-07, 08:45 AM
To know everything is to be one with the cosmos....some drugs usually help!


To know yourself is a much better goal for at least you can come up with

the right answers sometimes.

cosmictraveler
12-10-07, 08:46 AM
which begs the question, how do you know that?
:scratchin:

Because the more we learn, the more we find that there's even more to

learn than we first thought.

lightgigantic
12-10-07, 07:58 PM
Because the more we learn, the more we find that there's even more to

learn than we first thought.
thats still doesn't mean that the end of knowledge lies in knowing everything
it may also lie in knowing the source of everything ....

(IOW you presuppose that what humans know with is the greatest thing in the universe)