A few years ago I saw a ufo, I am posting to see if anyone here has seen something similar, or has some info. I do not need any responds from some of the crazy religious people I have seen around here either :rolleyes: .

It was nighttime, and when I had just walked outside and looked up, it had already been there.In the sky at about 45 degrees, it was a glowing green light, about the size the moon or sun would appear. It looked almost like the sun, exept green, and clearer to see, because it was closer. After I looked at it for a little with the person standing next to me, it dropped strait down towards the ground. It dissapeared out of my view into the trees on the horizon blocking my view. It went down kind of quick, but was steady, and I could observe it as it went.

Please post if you have any comments.
:m:

Here is a pic I just made, to get a better idea of what I saw, and for a little fun.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6374/kkl5tg.th.png (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kkl5tg.png)

Alright, I've never seen a UFO but what I'd like to say is this... are you near any airforce base? If you are it was likely something they released. Next, what are you near, the location would indiciate whether you can believe this was a UFO in the sense of something alien, or man-made. Finally if you saw it try finding out if anyone else nearby did to, maybe go on a little survey of the surrounding blocks.

The aliens have a sense of secrecy and keeping things hidden, this would likely negate the sighting as something of their design, however you never know :-P

I live in St. Joseph, MO. There is an airforce base kinda-close in kansas, but it is not in the same dirrection. I think I saw the thing to the east, kansas is to the west. I doubt it was anything released there, adleast nothing I have seen. The thing hovered there, it glowed, then it went strait down, no other movement at all. That describes no military technology I know of. A relative saw it with me, it was a long time ago, I am not going to take the time to look locally.

Yup, that was definately a UFO.

Originally Posted by Jessiec
A few years ago I saw a ufo, I am posting to see if anyone here has seen something similar, or has some info. I do not need any responds from some of the crazy religious people I have seen around here either .

It was nighttime, and when I had just walked outside and looked up, it had already been there.In the sky at about 45 degrees, it was a glowing green light, about the size the moon or sun would appear. It looked almost like the sun, exept green, and clearer to see, because it was closer. After I looked at it for a little with the person standing next to me, it dropped strait down towards the ground. It dissapeared out of my view into the trees on the horizon blocking my view. It went down kind of quick, but was steady, and I could observe it as it went.

Please post if you have any comments.

Here is a website of people who have witnessed Green Meteors, Green Orbs, Green UFOs, Green Fireball Phenomena, etc, to maybe help you determine what it is you saw : http://www.mt.net/~watcher/greenfireballsightings.html

More detail please. If it was the size of the Moon, I'd expect you to be able to have seen some features maybe?

Was it just a green light? Did it change intensity at all? Perfectly spherical? How bright, compared to the Moon? How do you know how far away it was (you said it was closer than the Sun), was there terrain behind it? In which case, how big do you estimate it to have been?

The thing was, it was clear, and bright. I could tell it was close by just because there was almost no atmospheric haze or anything. It didn't have any features on it, it was all the same around all sides of the circle. It did not flicker or change intensity. Perfect shphere it seemed.

Trying to estimate how big it was...would say very large, compared to any other ufo sighting I have seen, it was extremely larger. As I said the sphere would of been able to cover up the sun, but it was closer, maybe like a mile away in the sky it seems.

It was not behind any cloudes, it was right in front of me, clear as hell to see, I did not have to strain my eyes to see it in any way.
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It is kind of hard to guage it's brightness, because it didn't really have any texture. It deffinetely glowed, but not really bright. Comopared to the moon, I would say...looking out the window at the sky...scratch that
It would of appeared brighter then the moon, because it was closer, no atmosphere in the way.

None of the stories in that link really resemble mine.

i saw some kind of wierd shit in the sky one night when i was with 5 friends, we were on an abandoned high rise tower block rooftop, years and ayears ago when i was about 12-13.


it was this red light and it seemed kinda high up, it was static for ages (about 20 seconds) then the light expanded a little and blasted off even higher (not across the sky just more upwards) untill we couldent see it anymore,

it was really wierd we didnt report it or anything we just said it was probably some kind of shit who knows, and that was that,


peace.

The thing was, it was clear, and bright. I could tell it was close by just because there was almost no atmospheric haze or anything. It didn't have any features on it, it was all the same around all sides of the circle. It did not flicker or change intensity. Perfect shphere it seemed.

Trying to estimate how big it was...would say very large, compared to any other ufo sighting I have seen, it was extremely larger. As I said the sphere would of been able to cover up the sun, but it was closer, maybe like a mile away in the sky it seems.

It was not behind any cloudes, it was right in front of me, clear as hell to see, I did not have to strain my eyes to see it in any way.
*edit
It is kind of hard to guage it's brightness, because it didn't really have any texture. It deffinetely glowed, but not really bright. Comopared to the moon, I would say...looking out the window at the sky...scratch that
It would of appeared brighter then the moon, because it was closer, no atmosphere in the way.

Did the green testicle :D make any noise? Like, could you hear an engine? If it was silent, green round and close to you it's a UFO.. not much we can help you with here really.

Wow.
Wierd.

UFO's Explained:

quite simply there was a decent program on Television in the UK that debunked the UFO Myth. Notibly it all boiled down to the "Saucer" design that was captured at the end of the second world war and a discussion of how both the US and Russian Military black projects continued their research. If "Saucers" had been managed and produced the same way as Helicopters we'd probably be using them instead.

Sounds like a somewhat interesting program.
Where did the "saucer" come from they captured?
It debunked the myth?
Phew...glad thats all over...lol

From Germany. Not Aliens.

Like Squeak mention it was a German Aircraft project, which apparently had prototypes during the second world war. It was kind of interesting how the Aerodynamics was explained to show that saucers would gain tremendous lift, with an applied fin like a tail and some rockets or propellers it, it would then be able to apply drive.

You'll notice in another post a particular unmanned Drone type developed by the American's has hallmarks of the innitial saucer shaped craft.

Yeah. Right. See pics of those things? Like something you'd find in a Cracker Jack's box. So why would vintage flying saucers, a-la-human-bolts-and-tin level, suffice to debunk the whole phenomenon? But of course you'll claim that they've been ameliorated since -- but, ever consider that real alien spacecraft might have been taken seriously enough to inspire their design? After all, we've all seen those ghastly knock-offs of Michelangelo's David: even after all these centuries, they still can't get him right...

I have seen a UFO, it later turned out to be a football.

It was a genuine UFO until i realised it was a football.

I have seen ufos and none where footballs going add more ufo pictures from the footage i have taken and you all are welcome to view them click ufo pictures.

comments are welcome

http://lsufos.com

I have seen ufos and none where footballs going add more ufo pictures from the footage i have taken and you all are welcome to view them click ufo pictures.

comments are welcome

http://lsufos.com
HI and Welcome....cant access your UFO pics as my systems too limited

what do you think the UFOs mean?

Hi sorry you cant view the images, and thank you for the welcome
What do i think the UFOs mean one of two things one our goverments have secret crafts that fly in and out the earths atmosphere to some unknown spacestation or moon and may be mars bases,this would mean the govrement is telling lies and are more than 30years ahead maybe more with the space craft technology,and use funding for nasas outdated Shuttle and Rocket technology and show the world Astronaut in a outdated spacestation now the big Q is why would they the goverment want do this and deny they have such spacecrafts maybe they are or have genetically modified race that is more than 30years old as well and the dream of a mad man from the last world war lives on ONE RACE.
My be the aliens that do the Abduction to so many people from all over world are or are a part of that new race, can all the people around the world have the same dream or Hallucinations and illusions.
There are many who think that they are alien crafts and have a strong belief that they are here to help our world, and believe the aliens created life on earth now out of all the planets outhere and much older than earth by millions billions of years and evolution took the same path as humans evolved
then look how far we have come lets say in 50years with our technology then may well be that some of the crafts are not of our earth and there are many types of alien races outhere and are Visiting earth and space is teeming with life forms more advanced than us.
what do i think the UFOs mean? that we humans are a outdated race and in need of some outside help, we are a outdated race that struggles to survive
and the chosen from our race have all been picked.

I have seen ufos and none where footballs going add more ufo pictures from the footage i have taken and you all are welcome to view them click ufo pictures.

comments are welcome

http://lsufos.com

I don't see any UFO pictures on your website. All I see are out of context blobs, with NO supporting information, no date, time, location, behaviour, who witnessed, flight direction or duration, or why the flight characteristics were out of the ordinary. Basically, your site is pants.

Anyone can put blobs on a web site, you must try harder. Well, trying might be good.

Yep just a few pictures, with no supporting information date, time, location, behaviour just pictures thats all.
All taken from footage that has supporting information, date, time, location, behaviour, who witnessed, flight direction and duration.
And would like to see you if you can film these blobs as you call them give it a go.
My site dont show pants and you must try harder kids nowadays.

I don't see any UFO pictures on your website. All I see are out of context blobs, with NO supporting information, no date, time, location, behaviour, who witnessed, flight direction or duration, or why the flight characteristics were out of the ordinary. Basically, your site is pants.

Anyone can put blobs on a web site, you must try harder. Well, trying might be good.
Go fuck yourself. I wouldn't take anything this idiot says seriously. Eat those flames moron.

I saw a green orb in the sky. On March 17 at about 6am est.
After researching, I found that it possibly could have been comet that
passed very close to our earth. It was green as well. and very large.
One question to Jes, since you live in MO near the new madrid faultline,
i wonder if you heard a boom prior to the sighting. My point being,
methane sneaks up in bodies of water and when it reaches oxygen,
boom, there is a sound like a boom. I don't know if it "ignites" at that time
but it is something to ponder. New Madrid Fault could release some methane as well.

Go fuck yourself. I wouldn't take anything this idiot says seriously. Eat those flames moron.

Are you saying you DID see supporting information on that web site?

Are you saying those anonymous blobs definitely defied being categorised as any known phenomena?

Or, are you just lashing out while licking your wounded ego?

My critique was reasonable, your impotent profanity not.

btw, you also swap direct article in your outpourings. First, it seems to be targetted at me, and then lsufos, and then me again. That's really sentence structure, maybe you should pay more attention at school, and lay off the crank web sites for a while?

Okay all the images/pictures on view are taken from footage, in the footage you can see backgrounds etc.
All the footage with commentary etc will be put on DVD soon, none of the footage is faked this is what is flying above our heads in Scotland.

http:lsufos.com

All the footage with commentary etc will be put on DVD soon,

Ah, so you have come here to hawk your DVD.

I don't know what's worse, the people that compile and sell this crap, or the people that buy it.

Never came here to sell any DVD just puting my 2 bob over to you and if you read the above message it says pictures taken from footage now even you can work that out that it must have everything you asked for.
LSUFOS is a NEW Scottish site that will be selling CDs DVDs soon but never asked you to buy or anyone here ethere you asked for info on pictures and pictures are taken from footage as it says.

You must live in a small world that what you cant see you dont believe and even when took by the hand and shown you still cant see through what is it called again you know though.

I am off for week to lochness posted when i get back

The truth is outhere

Never came here to sell any DVD just puting my 2 bob over to you and if you read the above message it says pictures taken from footage now even you can work that out that it must have everything you asked for.

Crappy run on sentence beside, the fuzzy blobs you posted do'nt have enough info on them. Maybe the shite on DVD you are going to sell has more info, but who cares, the quality is rubbish.

LSUFOS is a NEW Scottish site that will be selling CDs DVDs soon but never asked you to buy or anyone here ethere you asked for info on pictures and pictures are taken from footage as it says.

Ah, but you will soon you fraud. If 'the truth is out there', why is it sold on DVD? Why not given away freely?

You must live in a small world that what you cant see you dont believe and even when took by the hand and shown you still cant see through what is it called again you know though.

Christ, how old are you? You must be ESN or a schoolkid or something to construct that sentence.

I am off for week to lochness posted when i get back

Ooooh, Loch Ness? To get some footage of the monster for yet another fraud DVD?

First thing stop throwing all these allegations about fraud about me another thing it was me who used the kid stuff first about you silly boy.
And for some one who has never seen the footage can come up with quality is rubbish.
thick or what you need to get out the house more instead of wasting you silly time on message boards may be you cant for you got nobody to go out with chased them all away sad.

First thing stop throwing all these allegations about fraud about me another thing it was me who used the kid stuff first about you silly boy.
And for some one who has never seen the footage can come up with quality is rubbish.
thick or what you need to get out the house more instead of wasting you silly time on message boards may be you cant for you got nobody to go out with chased them all away sad.
Hey lsufos, dont let the phlo put you off. i am glad of what you are doing and your presence here.
you find with this dying breed, the scientific materalistic pthological pseudosceptics tis very aggressive hostile snarling attitude against anything theirlimited brains demand can only be the truth the whole truth and nuthin BUT the truth. like little hitlers are they. all we can do is laugh at their antics, as they constantly go purple in the face...hehe

First thing stop throwing all these allegations about fraud about me another thing it was me who used the kid stuff first about you silly boy.
And for some one who has never seen the footage can come up with quality is rubbish.
thick or what you need to get out the house more instead of wasting you silly time on message boards may be you cant for you got nobody to go out with chased them all away sad.

Pay more attention in English class, kid.

I saw a UFO too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/communisthamster/alien.jpg

Are you saying you DID see supporting information on that web site?

Are you saying those anonymous blobs definitely defied being categorised as any known phenomena?

Or, are you just lashing out while licking your wounded ego?

My critique was reasonable, your impotent profanity not.

btw, you also swap direct article in your outpourings. First, it seems to be targetted at me, and then lsufos, and then me again. That's really sentence structure, maybe you should pay more attention at school, and lay off the crank web sites for a while?
What an idiot.
I never even mentioned any website.
Oh are you attempting to add you meanings to what I said that are different from what I meant?
I don't even know who lsufos is. BUt only you would htink I would.
I guess you are just too dumb to know how dumb you are.
RETARD.

mI saw a UFO too
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/communisthamster/alien.jpg
ok ok, now wees gettin down tobusiness. i knooow your takin the piss, but at last we hve a pic we an all share a look at...!

crap. obvious fake. so whats your point

How is mine an obvious fake and the other guys blurs aren't? Don't be so skeptical duendy....

How is mine an obvious fake and the other guys blurs aren't? Don't be so skeptical duendy....
cauuuuse,i knooow you yo commie likkle Hamster you...hehe
seriously tho. check my post above. i told dude i couldn't access his site, so trhat's first time i have seen one of his pics....
yes i admit it is veery blurry and not the best 'UFO' pic i have seen by far. but, at the mo, i kinda trust him. but i knew straightaway your motive. i can appreciate yur challenge though.

I smell a double standard. You are right, of course that my picture is a "fake" blurred UFO picture.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/communisthamster/alienoriginal.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/communisthamster/P4010131.jpg

Why aren't you skepitical of other peoples UFO photos?

I smell a double standard. You are right, of course that my picture is a "fake" blurred UFO picture.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/communisthamster/alienoriginal.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/communisthamster/P4010131.jpg

Why aren't you skepitical of other peoples UFO photos?
because yours was prticularly naff?....i have seen very good UFO pics, and film, whay do YOU underestimate my perception capacity?
oh yes, and of course i know your position regarding this subject, bt even not, that pic wasn't convicning. and i've alread admiteted the other one is too blurry, so........?
i am being curteous wit te persn. i have noiced time and agin te ATTITUDEof the so-called sceptics here to newcomers who claim stuff, and it is SO hostile. so rude, cynical, distrustful. WHY?? does it cost you anything to be critical WITH courtesy. not all the time but at last first meeting? i am not averse to challenges though. but particularly phloss and skins attitude as really viscious---can be!

What an idiot.
I never even mentioned any website.

You have a real problem with context don't you? You also try to pathetically wriggle out of situations, by alleging someone accused you of something.

Now, check back, you had a rant at me, because I critiqued a web site. The context of the discussion, therefore, is whether my critique was fair. I asked if you saw something different on the website to me, because if you did, maybe my critique could have been too harsh. But no, you just jump onto your rather childish fallback position of bleating 'I didn't say that', when I hadn't accused you of saying anything, far from it; I was trying to get you to say something relevant!

But it shows how desperate you are if you would side with this loser who is building up to advertise his DVDs.

crap. obvious fake. so whats your point

How can you dismiss it so easily duendy?

How can you dismiss it so easily duendy?
artistic savvy dear

artistic savvy dear

You mean your knee jerk opinion? Jesus, that's exactly what you falsely criticise others for.

You mean your knee jerk opinion? Jesus, that's exactly what you falsely criticise others for.
noticed.......? you are always judgin others wit what YOU do!
lt me spell it out. a new person shares his website said to consist of UFO pics. i dont know him, he seems alright, courteous. i trust him for now. cause i dont know him yet

I KNOW commie...know his views about this. that plus his dodgy pic makes me fink..hmmmmfake/instantly -near enuf

ten he puts up te newbiesand i amit, it DOES look blurry. but will give him benefit of doubt. cant see other pics. knowing commie he woulda picked out orst. so...

but youuuuu, youuuuu. straightaway are at the new guy's throat!

as per ruddy usual

But it shows how desperate you are if you would side with this loser who is building up to advertise his DVDs.
I guess you are too brain dead to be aware that I could care less about any website or any DVD. You really are a clueless twit.

Great thread. A newb with his blurry photos "UFOs" and the one-and-only Cool Skill doing his best to troll among the big boys again.

The blurry photo boy will go on his merry way once he realizes no one will buy that the photos show anything but points of out-of-context lights and leave sciforums behind in search of greener pastures to try and con the gullible into believing his silliness. But the real story here is Cool Skill.

I'm constantly amazed at the lengths Sean will apparently go to in order to piss people off and try to get them to respond with some hostile or negative manner so he can cry about how he was "flamed" and "trolled." If it isn't a silly pseudoscience thread, its some rant about atheists. CS will call people idiots, twits, braindead, morons, dumb, retards, and tell them to "go fuck" themselves, and then have the gall to cry afoul when someone criticizes him for it.

I'm constantly amazed but, more importantly, entertained by your antics, cool skill.

Please. Do continue.

but youuuuu, youuuuu. straightaway are at the new guy's throat!



The guy asked for comments;

comments are welcome

I commented. I was honest, and said his web site was crap. Yo know, based on the evidence (ie his web site) and I stated why.

No, on the other hand, all you do is make assertions that you don't bother to back up. See the difference?

The guy asked for comments;



I commented. I was honest, and said his web site was crap. Yo know, based on the evidence (ie his web site) and I stated why.

me)))your err 'honest' is malicious

No, on the other hand, all you do is make assertions that you don't bother to back up. See the difference?
no actually. i just see ypou snarlin away wit not much to say. all bark an no BITE

You think his web site is any good then, duendy.

Oh, hold on, you can't see pictures and videos on your Web TV setup can you? In fact, you can see very little. Shows how gullible you are duendy, when you believe stuff, without even seeing it!

His web site sucks. If you could actually see it, you'd know that.

btw, a while ago, on the thread where you were asking about computer advice, you said the ntl: guy had been round fixing your box. How come your spelling is still so crap? You used to blame it on the keyboard, but that excuse is past it's sell by date.

So you are a retard, after all, eh?

You think his web site is any good then, duendy.

Oh, hold on, you can't see pictures and videos on your Web TV setup can you? In fact, you can see very little. Shows how gullible you are duendy, when you believe stuff, without even seeing it!

His web site sucks. If you could actually see it, you'd know that.

btw, a while ago, on the thread where you were asking about computer advice, you said the ntl: guy had been round fixing your box. How come your spelling is still so crap? You used to blame it on the keyboard, but that excuse is past it's sell by date.

So you are a retard, after all, eh?
you know.........you SOUND 10 yearsold....!

But the real story here is Cool Skill.
Get lost. Go attack somebody who really cares about the garbage coming out of you.

heh... there's no "attack" sonny. Just observation. Fascinating observation at that.

you know.........you SOUND 10 yearsold....!

You know, I thought you were a school kid because of your appalling prose.

What causes you to say that I sound ten years old? Or is that just a put down, because you have run out of things to say?

You know, I thought you were a school kid because of your appalling prose.

What causes you to say that I sound ten years old? Or is that just a put down, because you have run out of things to say?
no it's not just some empty put-down. i MEAN it. emotionally you seem stuck in 10 year old mode

no it's not just some empty put-down. i MEAN it. emotionally you seem stuck in 10 year old mode

That's a ridiculous claim to make, on the basis of me criticising a web page you can't even see, duendy!

Do you not see that you look a bit daft, defending something you have little knowledge of?

Also, why can't you answer a simple question? You stated that the cable guy came round to fix your WebTV, but your typing is still really poor. So, why, if you can't blame your keyboard anymore? You always fall back to insults when you are put on the spot duendy, so instead, just answer the question, did you get your setup fixed or not? If yes, why is your typing still so bad?

That's a ridiculous claim to make, on the basis of me criticising a web page you can't even see, duendy!

Do you not see that you look a bit daft, defending something you have little knowledge of?

Also, why can't you answer a simple question? You stated that the cable guy came round to fix your WebTV, but your typing is still really poor. So, why, if you can't blame your keyboard anymore? You always fall back to insults when you are put on the spot duendy, so instead, just answer the question, did you get your setup fixed or not? If yes, why is your typing still so bad?
GET TO BED!!

Ah, so you have run out of things to say, duendy. You needn't have underlined my point, you could have just not said anything.

Ah, so you have run out of things to say, duendy. You needn't have underlined my point, you could have just not said anything.
tut TUT!!!
if youuuu dont get yur sorry arse UP them stairs, i'm gonna beat it till it GLOWS in the dark!

So, you not going to answer why your spelling still sucks despite alleging you had your set top box fixed duendy?

So, you not going to answer why your spelling still sucks despite alleging you had your set top box fixed duendy?
ok that's it!!!!....hmmmm where's the fukin maskin tape..??????

Ok, here is what you saw in the sky: A flying machine which was invented by Nikola Tesla. The green glow you speak of is the result of high voltage electricity ionizing the air around the metal hull of the flying machine and causing it to glow.

The flying machine is owned only by the "wizards," or whatever you want to call them. But I will assure you, they are PEOPLE and not ALIENS. Thats what you have to remember here, its just a top-secret craft which would blow the automobile off the road if they let the public in on their secret. We are all "energy slaves," and if we had saucers we wouldn't need to pay the monthly electric bill because you would have a "free energy" machine in your home.

The flying saucer would allow you to visit anyone in the world on a whim!! The speed and acceleration they are capable of is so immense that it blows the mind...

Ive seen them take off at high speeds and do 90 degree angles without slowing down at all.... so they control inertia, and momentum through high voltage electricity, since all matter is made of electric charges, this concept functions sooooo nicely they will keep it a secret for as long as they can....

*bibboty bobbity SPOOK*

OK i'm gonnaplay Devil's Advocate

if free energy is being hidden, what is te main purpose it WOULD be hidden?is it cause pople would not be fleeced by power. is itcause the very rich owe teir MAINTANENCE of wealrh to energy-power?....how would it affect the elite if free energy WAAS real and became public knowledge?

You claim tese craft are man made and can go at enormous speed, sudden turns etc, HOW could human body cope wit such as that?.....do you have any knowledge of how they'd manage that inside a craft?

Do you feel ALL UFOS are manmade?

hah...not much devil's advocate i'm afraid. didn't gp accordn to plan

You claim tese craft are man made and can go at enormous speed, sudden turns etc, HOW could human body cope wit such as that?.....do you have any knowledge of how they'd manage that inside a craft?



Aliens have special materials that make you body safe. It's almost like driving i a luxury car, actually. They even have lap dancers to pleasure you during the journey




Do you feel ALL UFOS are manmade?



The one that landed in rosswell was. But most of these are made by the aliens. Aliens aren't really big on outsourcing yet.


hah...not much devil's advocate i'm afraid. didn't gp accordn to plan


Gotta luv ya

free energy? who says it's not something as predictable as fusion? a fusion craft with an ion drive made to work in the atmosphere would have one hell of a fuel efficiency, especailly if it used outside air. yeah, i tend to analyze the ideas for these spacecraft sightings for a plausible craft. kinda like a puzzle.

i think aliens would keep a body from liquifying in extreme gees by either immersing the human body in liquid, which disperses strain off the bone structure and pressure is uniform thourhgout the body, or injecting some kind of nanite to build a temporary reinforcement structure on the body's celluar level, which'd pretty much turn a human body into a piece of stone for the periods of acceleration. or they just warp, which'd bypass the gee force all together, i think...

I have to admit over the years I've been very critical of peoples interpretations of both events and what is real.

For instance in Weed_eater's post they Hypothesize how an alien would overcome G-Force which is fine since it uses imagination and imagination can be the cheapest form of experimentation as long as your Parameters are accurate.

A wrong personal understanding of physics or a misinterpreted thesis is enough though to cause the Imagination to dwell on fiction and not synthesize reality.

As for Free-Energy, well to what degree does anyone actually know about what is and what isn't possible. For those that believe it is they might have a literal library of excerts from New Scientist, American Scientist, Focus and a number of other sensationalisation presses, although those are the more reputable ones in comparison to someones home thesis written in HTML and lacking any forms of Bibliography or corresponding evidence.

For those that disbelieve it's mearly a lack on their part of prior knowledge, their own definitions of how physics is, how they were taught and lack of evidence (Which might not be due to lasiness but evidence not existing in the first place.)

What I can't make however is the JUMP that people tend to assume, Yes there are people that have attempted to use Zero-Point energy to generate Free Energy and others have attempted to creation Fusion and Antimatter reactors. However the main problem with all these attempts is the same as the old quest for Perpetual Motion devices, "You don't get the same amount of energy as what you put into it, let alone generating extra energy."

Again peoples Imaginations fuel their quest for the Why they should look into it and this is where the concepts of Spaceship reactors are born, especially considering that any spacecraft would have to hold it's own fuel with a conventional propulsion system and have a great amount of waste.

The problem however with science isn't just theory and plausibility, as mentioned multiple times by many posters it's down to Testability. For instance it's possible to Imagine a craft travelling at or near light speed, however we can't actually do it, not just because of the physics but due to questions like: how would something that could go that speed be manufactured? and where would the funds for manufacturing it come from?

In essence keep statements a hypothesis, and everything a theory until it can be proven and as I mentioned proof is Testability and of course Duplication. (Thats why so many radioactive states are still to this day contested due to inaccuracies in Duplication).

Then Stryder, please explain to me how a "flying machine" might be able to travel across a 3 mile stretch of mountains, doing extremely erratic movements, and clearing the 3 miles in about 5 seconds.... This craft was HALLING ASS, and I saw this with my own eyes.... (plus two other witnesses)

You want more examples? A policeman I know, told me that one night, while he was patrolling at 4 in the morning, he saw a flying saucer which was "larger than the school it was floating above" and that it "flew away at a very high speed with no sound."

Here is another one. A few years back I was waiting for a ride under a cloudless sky. Before my ride came I saw two HUGE circular shadows moving quick as hell and covering up a VERY large part of the mountain. As I know, shadows cast from objects in the sky, when the sun is high in the sky, are the size of the objects casting them, since the sun is so far away.

Look, Ive seen some awesome technology in the sky that is made by intelligence, and I've NEVER seen an alien, thats for damn sure.

You claim tese craft are man made and can go at enormous speed, sudden turns etc, HOW could human body cope wit such as that?.....do you have any knowledge of how they'd manage that inside a craft?

The high voltage high frequency electricity in the ELECTROPROPULSIVE flying machine (flying saucer) allows it to CONTROL momentum, this is why the bodies are not destroyed, its the only way such 90 degree angles in flight would be possible.

Do you feel ALL UFOS are manmade?

Unidentified Flying Objects only exist as soon as the OBSERVER DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS LOOKING AT.

So what I've seen are not UFOs, since I know what they are. They are top-secret flying machines which have been kept secret for over 50 years by the "wizards." Just think about it, they kept the stealth bomber secret for over 20 years! (the only reason you or I know about that today is because they put the stealth bomber on public display in 1988)

dont care what the socalled skepticshere say...people HAVE seen them
Photographs and videos exist which show them
professinal people like pilots, policmen, etc have seen them
I have seen them on film footage on TV

so what do we K N O W?

that they have been Seen

lets forget the 'abduction' phenemena and just focus on UFOs

after seeingthem, and oh yeah---people actuall in this thread have seen them---'we' natruarally wonder who is driving them and how they can be, and operate as they do. for they defy our present understanding

BUT, dont you admit, tere do exist theoris like m-brane theory which speak of folding spacetime and travelling down wormholes

do ou discount these theories? if you say yes, dont just give us A sentence. tis is a debatin society.....? why do you discount them IF you do?

Something to look out for on the screen, Alien Autopsy [2006] (http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2006/03/20/alien_autopsy_2006_review.shtml)

It should explain why I don't think that photographic or video should be included as evidence, since there are so many newspapers and television companies that "Pay" without any care of authentication (afterall if you fraud the people, then it's your head on the chopping blocks not the press.)

Tied in with the usual stories of people seeing things, for many years Fisherman use to tell tales of how long their fish was, but it was always the one that got away.

There are countless defense projects that many countries and contracted companies participated in, there are then the countless numbers of criminal organisations that might well use aircraft and aerospace in general to go about their business, ontop of that there are meteorological stations that also conduct tests with the weather, there are than some types of people that might actually attempt to seed weather clouds.

In fact a local in a Village I once use to live use to occasionally use a jar lid with some paraffin and a plastic shopping bag, the paraffin would be lit to heat the air in the bag and the bag then let go. The problem with this was if the bag caught light it would drop molten plastic everywhere, potentially starting fires.

It just proves that there is alot of people that will purposely place deceptive things into the air, and then of course there is the witnesses on the ground that can be just as deceptive.

(An experiment in peoples guilibity just needs a group of people from a local village or town to create a story of a sighting and then send their varients of stories to magazines, the conclusion will be that eventually even people not in on the hoax will start believing they saw something.)

As for theories on folding Spacetime and Wormholes, as said they are theories which are avenues of discussion and potential exploration however if they can't be tested then they remain nothing more than theories.

I do hope you guys realise that I'm not writing this to say you are wrong, I'm mearly trying to point out that without conclusive evidence then it's nothing more than folklore and myth.

It just proves that there is alot of people that will purposely place deceptive things into the air

Im just not gettting you on this one...

I'll explain this simply, 10 years ago I would of been all for Aliens, UFO's conspiracies and the like, however I've had the time to pickup on bits of information over the years and of course more importantly more information being made available that suggests that people cry conspiracies over anything.

I realised that when young I had "theories" that were untested and ill-understood science from the lack of education, I found a number of those thoughts written on the web and I have to admit I'd sound as bad as some of those that post here in this forum. Luckily my own personal problems at the time involving the use of pot smoking have ceased now (and have done for some time) and I realise just how wasted I must have been to conjure a belief system involving such conspiracies.

It's not so much age thats got me, just better experience and of course a mind no longer hampered by self-endulgent drug usage.

You seam quite intent upon discrediting.

Pot doesn't cause you to have hallucinations, thats quite simply said. It takes what is known as: Psychedelic drugs, to do shit like that. (Im talking acid, mushrooms, etc)

If you disbelieve this you should go read about this on WWW.EROWID.ORG (you cannot deny the experiences of others)

Well Stryder, I think you're denying alot stuff, I don't think the police officer I talked to was on pot when he saw a flying saucer bigger than the school it was floating above... after which it silently shot away...

After all, Nikola Tesla said himself that the flying machine he was in the process of inventing/constructing would fly AND be "devoid of sustaining wings, propellers or gas bags." (gas tanks) And that description certainly fits the ELECTROPROPULSIVE FLYING MACHINE in description.

Strtyder, yer sobriety dont seem tohave done much good for your logositics and intuitional capacities....really

pretty poor critique, and i'm not saying this to get at you

Strtyder, yer sobriety dont seem tohave done much good for your logositics and intuitional capacities....really

pretty poor critique, and i'm not saying this to get at you

Look duendy, Stryder no longer sees the world the way he did, because he doesn't indulge in various substances anymore. You have yet to get clean and see the world the way it is.

Drugs do not allow you to see more of reality. They merely alter your perception of it. Yours, and yours alone. No truth is revealed, you just hallucinate, or get paranoid and make false connections. Stryder has beaten that, and bloody good show.

He's also had the grace to admit his former beliefs flawed. Now, here's the question duendy, what would you find it harder to leave behind, your drugs, or your belief system? Would you have the guts to admit you were wrong afterwards?

.Look duendy, Stryder no longer sees the world the way he did, because he doesn't indulge in various substances anymore. You have yet to get clean and see the world the way it is.

me))and you haven't one clue what you are talking about. you dontknow me or what i do. So as usual your words and point of view are totally useless and empty. Though givin credit whereits due, you do give good advice about computers......

Drugs do not allow you to see more of reality. They merely alter your perception of it. Yours, and yours alone. No truth is revealed, you just hallucinate, or get paranoid and make false connections. Stryder has beaten that, and bloody good show.

me)))as i say. as usual you make some empty meaningles statement and IMAGINEit has some import.........luvvvy, it doesn't. seriously. In fact, it is embarrassing in its massive unsophistication!

He's also had the grace to admit his former beliefs flawed. Now, here's the question duendy, what would you find it harder to leave behind, your drugs, or your belief system? Would you have the guts to admit you were wrong afterwards?
heres the irony. first you make assumptions that dont exist. and here's you--a supposed teetotal non-whatsoever drug-taker. yeeet, you are one of theee most hard-headed, bloody-minded, nincompoops, of limited undertanding, i've ever met

Don't know you or what you do, duendy? You do nothing! You don't have a job, do you?

Get sober, get sane, and get a job. Become a real person. Leave all your childish fantasies behind. The only person conspiring against you achieving this is YOU duendy.

Don't know you or what you do, duendy? You do nothing! You don't have a job, do you?

Get sober, get sane, and get a job. Become a real person. Leave all your childish fantasies behind. The only person conspiring against you achieving this is YOU duendy.
oh sweet jesus phlo, yer not comin on as some kinda ROLE model is u....?

I'll just show what irrationality is about from a brief glimpse at something that floats around on the net still to this day: http://byamerican.com/cgi-bin/archiveast/config.cgi?read=13136

a brief history into how my mind was at the time, I first got onto the internet in 1996 and I as a late teen decided to look into how to make websites, the problem I had wasn't that I couldn't design a website but more to the fact I had no content for one.

The internet at the time was a place filled with like minded people that liked discussing the same sort of things that we discuss here at sciforums, and I decided that I wanted content for my website. Now to fill it with content I decided that I wanted to create outside theories on un-answered and obscure questions, with my emphasis on gaining hits to my website or getting my theories acknowledged.

This was my reason for reading, thinking and writing about subjects like we deal with here in pseudoscience originally and that continued up until mid 1999. Then I had to stop doing drugs because of the consequences of doing them. My body had got to the point where it had reached saturation and something had to give, resulting in a few panick attacks.

Cannabis CAN be hallucinogenic if done in quantity and with certain qualities. If a very high amount of THC is present in a particular well grown batch of green then you'll trip, if you happen to have a poor quality solid cannabis type thats suppose to only contain pressed cannabis it's likely that it also contains plastic film/wrapping and potentially other chemicals placed their to enhance it's addictiveness or lower it's scent in regards to snifferdogs. The contaminents can be hazardous.

I mention this because I had two reasons for quitting...
1: I wanted to study and to study means looking at the evidence not just dealing constantly with presumption.
2: My usage of Cannabis cause a chemical change in my brain which means if I do smoke it or injest it, I end up suffering a panick attack.

The latter points a pain because if it was ever found that I had some ailment that could be cured or at least made more comfortable by the use of Cannabis, I won't be able to use it because of the change to my physiology.

In 2000 I completely stopped it's usage, however for a few years afterwards I suffered from the damage caused by usage and from realising that some of my basic understandings of physics and the world were completely inaccurate. I'm still to this day learning and realising things I might of errored in previously, and as Phlogistician mentions it's difficult to actually admit when something has been wrong. You might not bring whatever it was up in the future and just hope that eventually it will be swept under the carpet.

In my case however I realised after 2000 or so that what you post on the net potentially sits there archived for future prosperity. Which is kind of what I tried to explain to you posters about how I was moderating, namely why I would leave you posts intact and your comments because one day you'll have to come to terms with anything that was inaccurate or how harsh you might have been on others.

btw, I never did really build a decent website, I still lacked the content and I realised that I didn't want to fill a website with delusion thinking for both my own wellbeing and to stop others potentially drawing the wrong conclusions based upon my written work and irrational thinking.

Yes, but you still deny what the police officer saw? You deny what I have seen? You deny what my DIGITAL CAMERA has seen do you? Im sorry, but my digital camera doesn't do drugs, it can't. I have photos of some very interesting things in the sky, but I won't bother to show you because you will claim them "fake." (even though the photos come RIGHT OFF of my digital camera which burns all its data right to a small cd-r disk, which means I didn't process it with photoshop, but Im not going to bother showing them to you... you don't understand how the ELECTROPROPULSIVE MAN MADE FLYINGMACHINE works.... so much for Nikola Tesla....)

but that is your.....and i err am not sure where ths drug shit has come into this discussion for-----experence kid. many people smoke cannabis very late in life. i know one old due in his 80s puffin away, and he loves it

psychedelics? promordially used in a sacramental way amongst Indigenous peples all oer the globe
see. the prpaganderists against substances like cannabis and psychedelics always balme tem, and never te actual system tat can cause panic attacks fr the user of substances tat open them up--stimulation

NO. like the phlos of this world, they actually DEFENDthe covert madness of these regimes. and HE's SOBER!

or pssssst--he says he is. sounds fukin pissed half the time , to me.....?

manmadeflyingsaucer,
Look carefully at what you imply and what source of evidence you are to me. You suggest the Policeman in question is "First Person Evidence". First Person is where the person giving you the story is the person that saw the event with their own eyes.

You now tell me and the rest of the forum about this policeman, which makes the story "Third Person Evidence". The difference between the two pieces of evidence is that the Policeman would of said things based upon the circumstances of discussion (i.e. He might of been detaining you and talked to you about things you are passionate about to get a better understanding of your state of mind and keep you calm while being processed), You are also dealing with your recollection of what was said to you, which can cause alterations in the story for what was said either through your memory having holes and your mind filling in the gaps or because you want to sensationalise about what was said by missing out certain narrative pieces of context.

You then have Photographic evidence (be it digital or not). There have been many instances of the Lochness Monster and Fairy's at the bottom of someones garden to show occurances of trick photography. Again a decent faked photo can be sold to people if it seems to be real.

Another statement people have said usually in this context is: "There's always a camera present when a saucer fly's by". Admittedly in recent years there has been an increase in the number of people available to take pictures but you only ever find one shot(picture) of a UFO by a single sky watcher, when most of the time these sky watchers tend to camp a particular place like twitchers (birdwatchers) with rare bird sightings.

(Just because something comes straight from a Digital Camera card doesn't mean that it wasn't faked. I can place any picture onto a camera and timestamp with a different time, it's just software manipulation and emulation.)

As for Electropropulsion manmade flying machines, well there's been the Internal Combustion flying machine for many years, there is also the Electricpropulsion Model aircraft however the main problem with them was the batteries that store energy can only store so much for so long and when the models in use it drains quickly (especially with radiocontrolled.)

As someone use to point out to me back when I use to post about my personal beliefs, You've alot of "Keywords" but thats it. I bit like littering this post with Quantum Mechanics, Wormholes and Quasars, with Zero-point and Free energy to boot.
All those words are used but actually have no real context with one another or any scientific reason for being placed together other than just being used as an example.


Duendy,
The reason Drugs came into the conversation topic was the fact that a number of people that make these Extraordinary claims are "wasted" for the most part.

Most drug users view of reality is warped by their drug usage so much so that drug users all too often are defense of their activities claiming their drugs can do no wrong, in fact they can become so zealot-like with their belief's that they can become complete anarchists waging war on the state or government because their activities are perceived illegal (As right they should be).

It doesn't matter that "Indigenous people" use any forms of drug in ceremony or ritual, during the 17th-18th century, lead based facepaint was percieved a social normality, although the paints themselves we know now to be deadly. The same can be said for the usage of Pewter goblets that had a certain amount of lead within them too which generates questionable reactions to accused poisoners in palaces etc.

psychedelics? promordially used in a sacramental way amongst Indigenous peples all oer the globe
Used rarely in special ritual ceremonies, not abused almost each day.

I'm a twitcher, although I don't use a camera very often

[Edited by Stryder]
Sorry Duendy, This statement is deleted since it's not to do with discussion just an insult to another member of sciforums. Please try to refrain from acting irrationally.

Is that all you can reply?
Granny needs to report to old people's home.

Is that all you can reply?
Granny needs to report to old people's home.
you don't even get what the saying means do you?

Stryder.... haha, well, maybe one day you guys will know of flying saucer technology, but for now you're all muggles. And thats the honest to god truth.

Duendy,
chill out I modded your posts because I was trying to stop a flame riot not start one. The rest of your posts I had to delete, since afterall someones granny might be reading them.

Woah, looks like duendy is on the road to an aneurism! I reckon her dealer must be 'on holiday'!

Woah, looks like duendy is on the road to an aneurism! I reckon her dealer must be 'on holiday'!
So STYRDER--let me know. really explain to me in full. why is THIS post not edited? not that i wat you editing ANY post. but why do you let tis dick-headet all have freedom to say what they like and make insinuations about othwers taking drugs and a catelogue of past slanders etc, andpick on MY relatively compleytely harmless old saying??
i await further reply to this and my preceeding post regarding your action that sparked all of this off.

So STYRDER--let me know. really explain to me in full. why is THIS post not edited? not that i wat you editing ANY post. but why do you let tis dick-headet all have freedom to say what they like and make insinuations about othwers taking drugs and a catelogue of past slanders etc, andpick on MY relatively compleytely harmless old saying??
i await further reply to this and my preceeding post regarding your action that sparked all of this off.

Maybe because my post isn't full of expletives, duendy? I didn't see the post of yours that got deleted, but if it was anything like the frothing rant that followed it, I'm surprised you didn't get a suspension. Come on duendy, you really think you can get away with calling a mod a 'bastard' and a 'little hitler', drop half a dozen 'fukin' and a couple of 'fuks' in, and not get a reprimand?

You really have addled your mind with drugs.

Oh, and as you raised apologies, I think you should apologies to Stryder for your outburst.

Maybe because my post isn't full of expletives, duendy? I didn't see the post of yours that got deleted, but if it was anything like the frothing rant that followed it, I'm surprised you didn't get a suspension. Come on duendy, you really think you can get away with calling a mod a '*******' and a 'little hitler', drop half a dozen '*****' and a couple of '****' in, and not get a reprimand?

You really have addled your mind with drugs.

Oh, and as you raised apologies, I think you should apologies to Stryder for your outburst.
phlo, you stirring authoritarian brown-nosin gutter rat. **** the *** off outta my business. this has nurthin to do you with you---only in the fact that why the*** should thelikesof YOUr posts not get ***** edited and my post which you admiot yo dont even **** KNOW about----typical of you you nonce--IS edited for ...what. a harmless saying...??? thisis not **** good enuf. you silly ****.
anyway. mind yer business

as horrendoulsy insulting, full of ****. provoking, insluting etc etc and dull your psots are, i still would not want them censored. or anyones. THAT you ********, you matter-headed ******* is what i am goin on about.

now as i say. go and play wid yurself. and keep out . tis is between me and styrder. is he in bed or WHAT?!

duendy, you're cruising for a slapping. You need this place more than it needs you, so say sorry and apologise for all your profanity before you get a ban.

Off topic, in recent news there have been concerns made about the "Modern Teenager" and how Disrespectful they have become. The problem concerned itself about what has happened to todays youth with the lapse approach to dealing with their wrong doing.

The legal constraints on Corporal Punishment has created a majority view that "Smacking naughty children" is the wrong thing to do. I'm not suggesting it's right, however such a liberalised attitude has caused alot of "Out of control children". They threat violence on each other and on their parents, with recent years escallating to actual brutal slayings. (Modern society has allowed an almost "Lord of the Flies" approach with children roaming the streets)

The reason I mention all this Duendy is that such a disrespectful attitude in Youth isn't addressed when older people respond with the same disrespectful attitudes.

I know Phlog has said things in the past to goad some of you into responses, however I believe thats because he tries to explain something to those particular people multiple times and eventually gives up, resulting in insultive narratives. Sub-consciously he's probably a little upset that you just can't grasp what he was getting at. Now I'm not saying that insulting you was the correct way of dealing with you, however what alternatives does he have? Especially when he doesn't insult you and you start insulting "him" because you don't want to listen or percieve what ever is being discussed any other way than the way you see it.

I am going to keep deleting your posts if you continue to use insultive and vulgar dilects because there are Children that can frequent this forum looking for answers, Which I'm hoping will learn about mutual respect rather than just continue this cycle of disrespective attitudes towards one another.

Yes Duendy, you have corrupted my fragile little mind!

:D

duendy, you're cruising for a slapping. You need this place more than it needs you, so say sorry and apologise for all your profanity before you get a ban.
you think i need 99% of dick-brains likeyou? you mo thick than i thought

duendy, discussions with you are all but intelligent

on that I leave this post for deletion by Stryder,
thanks for keeping order,
cheers!

duendy, you claim I have insulted you, when all I have done is remind anyone reading this thread that you don't have a job, aren't very sane, and take drugs.

You've never actually refuted any of this, you just get angry and hurl insults when I bring it up. But it is true, isn't it?

duendy, discussions with you are all but intelligent

on that I leave this post for deletion by Stryder,
thanks for keeping order,
cheers!
well yeahhh of course. good avatar ever the conformist.
who thinks himself theeee 'critical thinker'. i cannot tell you how funny you are in your certitude that delusion

So much for the subject

heh... there's no "attack" sonny. Just observation. Fascinating observation at that.
Yes fascinating indeed. You obviously have the capability to understand things. Perhaps it's beyond your undeveloped brain.

So much for the subject
I would blame phlogistician. He's known for distorting people's comments without even understanding them.

So much for the subject
As an aside
The Last Will and Testament of Philip J. Klass

To UFOlogists who publicly criticize me…or who even think unkind thoughts about me in private, I do hereby leave and bequeath THE UFO CURSE: No matter how long you live, you will never know any more about UFOs than you know today. You will never know any more about what UFOs really are, or where they come from. You will never know any more about what the U.S. Government really knows about UFOs that you know today. As you lie on your own death-bed you will be as mystified about UFOs as you are today. And you will remember this curse.

I would blame phlogistician. He's known for distorting people's comments without even understanding them.


All you have done on this thread is chime in with ad homs.

At least I asked the poster a fwe questions. You, on the other hand, have contributed NOTHING, because you are a NOBODY.

All you have done on this thread is chime in with ad homs.

At least I asked the poster a fwe questions. You, on the other hand, have contributed NOTHING, because you are a NOBODY.
Hmm. Let's backtrack. Who was it to throw the first insult between us?

You worm, you really are wriggling now!
In retrospect, you are nothing but a piece of shit asshole with no interest in proper discussion. The only thing you are interested is to continue to throw out and argue your point without the least bit of understanding about what others are saying. Sorry, but you cannot argue against somebody's opinion if you do not even know or understand what the person's opinion is.

You sure did contribute something. Your ignorance. I hope living in ignorant stupidity serves you well. ASSHOLE.

Hmm. Let's backtrack. Who was it to throw the first insult between us?

YOU! Your FIRST post on this thread was;

Go fuck yourself. I wouldn't take anything this idiot says seriously. Eat those flames moron.

This was on the second page. Nothing on topic, no discussion of the content of the thread, just a direct ad-hom! You are so stupid, when you 'backtrack' and the facts are in front of you in black and white, you still get things wrong!

Or is this another context problem you are having again? Something said in a different thread is carried on here, and not in the original thread? Focus, boy, focus!

In retrospect, you are nothing but a piece of shit asshole with no interest in proper discussion. The only thing you are interested is to continue to throw out and argue your point without the least bit of understanding about what others are saying. Sorry, but you cannot argue against somebody's opinion if you do not even know or understand what the person's opinion is.

You sure did contribute something. Your ignorance. I hope living in ignorant stupidity serves you well. ASSHOLE.

Nice prose. When you have to resort to that, you know you have lost, and are just venting your impotent frustration. Keep it up, it shows you for what you are; A pseudo intellectual.

If you won't kindly shut up, you'll be banned.
I suggest you apologize to phlogistician and delete this "post" of your's.

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I will apologize when he do to me and others on this and other threads
if you care to look at his replys to myself and others on this board you will
see he is not so clean he is one of a few who try and stop people posting on
these threads

WHAT A ASSHOLE

it's AN asshole, not 'a asshole'

YOU ARE YOUR OWN SITE FULL OF SHIT LIKE YOURSELF.

Oooh, semantic and syntactic nightmare that one. Just really badly constructed that sentence.

YOUR SO SCARY AWAY DRINK PISS.

It's you're, contraction for 'you are'. not 'your' which is possessive.

ANYONE EVER READ THE THREADS THIS ASSHOLE POSTS ON 1,949 POSTS FULL OF CRAP BEST OF ALL HE GOES OUT WALKING WITH HIS MUM TO SHOPS INCASE THE BIG BOYS CHASE HIM HIDES BEHIND A COMPUTER

You are sat behind what, right now? I don't live with my mum, haven't done for nearly 20 years, being an adult. You on the other hand write like a child, so probably still do live at home.

TO PASS HIS DAYS ALONE IN HIS ROOM THINKING WHAT HE CAN BE JUGE AND JURY

Surely should be a 'that', not a 'WHAT'. and it's 'judge' not 'JUGE'.

ON HE HAS NEVER Experienced any thing and another who is bad in beb

Do you mean 'bed'?

likes read all sorts of books so he can play with him self.
sad asshole indeed.

I do like books, yes, ones with facts in. As you are barely literate, I should imagine you favour the ones with pictures in, no?

You said it and i do think you are right about the asshole.
And thank you for the spelling out my words.

Going have to stop playing this game now going stop feeding your habit last reply form me to you imagine that.

Learn to write, boy.

Oh Me Oh My You Always Want The Last Say Bye

Again and again we see the woo-woos come to our little happy home and get mad because the big, bad skeptic questions their silly beliefs at every turn. Isufos is the latest, eh? He reminds me of the silly git, ufotheatre, that was trying to sell his silly cds of ufo videos. I remember proving one a fake and he used nearly the exact same style of writing in response.

This thread is obviously not about a "ufo experience," but the experience of dealing with ufo-nutters who believe every light in the sky is something to photograph. These are the nutters that wouldn't know venus from an aircraft. The same nutters that see the wing and nose lights of a 747 and claim its a triangle ufo.

And then when questioned or criticized here, in this science forum, for their pseudoscientific methods, they respond with profanity and insults.

This thread is about the UFO nutter and his inability to appropriately interact on a social level with those that doubt his belief systems -that is the true "ufo experience."

he is one of a few who try and stop people posting on
these threads
How could Phlo possibly prevent you from posting in this forum? You can, however... just keep up your semi-illiterate but profane attacks. Eventually you'll not be able to post again.

Simplest way to fix the current problem... close the thread. (And don't bother asking it to be reopened... it's a final.)