Just been thinking about virtual particles lately, that's all. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! My knowledge of virtual particles isn't complete (are they always particle-sized? Can they be other things, such as tiny black holes, little space-time bubbles, or other things altogether?), but perhaps the speed of light (as well as other energy and matter) is limited by a 'buffeting' effect against these virtual particles? Perhaps light can only travel so fast through through the 'quantum foam' due to this buffeting effect, just as air buffets subsonic craft on Earth? Other universes where universal constants are different could have differences in virtual particle 'density', thus allowing differing speeds of light? (More 'foam', lower speed of light, less foam, higher) Perhaps some exotic theoretical method of pushing these particles out of the way could allow us to travel faster than light? The energy required could be rediced from 'infinite' to 'a whole heck of alot'? Just venting some ideas as all. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Wow, Interesting idea... There is no limit on the mass size of the `particle`, nor is there, AFAIK, a exclusion to any other type of particle.... The word on the street is that, current <b>string-theory</b> actually predicts that (<i>for example</i>) an electron can change into a mini black-hole or into any other particle... It seems to me that the presence of an infinite amount of gravitons or photons created in space/time <b>would</b> have an effect, But i suppose that because everything (<i>energy wise</i>) can be renormalised, (ie brought back to `ground` level), we would not see the effects... Anyone else.?
I have a question? If nothing can travel faster than light how can the effects of gravity be instantanious across vast distances in space. If gravitons are particles responsable for gravity do they move faster than light???
but perhaps the speed of light (as well as other energy and matter) is limited by a 'buffeting' effect against these virtual particles? If virtual particles were able to interact with photons as they traveled through space, the energy of the photons would degrade. There is no known interaction that could degrade a photon’s energy without changing its momentum. Distant objects would be a blur - this is not observed.
I can't remember where I read it can you enlighten me. Is gravitational force instantaneous....just curious.
The technical answer, to that, is no.... `information` carried by the gravitons probably cannot go faster than light speed, ( is to be proved, it must be said), however, gravity can be viewed as a scalar field that is `part` of space/time, thus it extends to infinity... i try to imaging it like the living-room carpet...it reaches to all four wall instantaneously, but the things crawling on it move only at a certain speed... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I agree with the gravitons beong non-instaneous and i have a question on another application that was possibly looked over. One is where is the electron getting the energy to form itsself into a black hole and how do you think the vacuum energy can correspond to this.
Infinity's Twin- beong is not a word, being is probably what you were aiming at. i should be capitalized (I). One is where is the This should have been worded differently- perhaps this way- get rid of the one, since you only asked one particular question, So it should be worded.... Where is the electron getting the energy to form itself (not itsself as you wrote it) into a black hole? Then list your other question- How do you think the vacuum energy can correspond to this?
damnit, tim(a.k.a. mooseknuckle, which by the way is the dumbest name on the planet) you get me to fucking post on this thing for once after begging me to join on this thing and then you bash my grammer. sorry, not everyone can be as perfect as you. now get out of the science section. you know you dont belong here. this is my area of study go back to your pseudo-known philosophy and pyschology sections. GET A GRIP ON REALITY! I'M BACK! BOOOOOOOOOWWWOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!! i hate you and i will destory your essence by freezing your light.
Since "beong" is the first word in the sentence, it should be capitalized. Since "question" is the last word in the sentence, it should be followed by a period, not a comma. An elipsis is three dots, not four. When quoting someone else's text, even if it is a single word, quotations marks should be utilized. This will take too long... Let me just rewrite your entire post. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! :m:
Just kidding with the kid, I know I didnt point out all the mistakes..... sorrrrryy, but I like your style
Actually I was pointing out the mistakes in your correction. Still like my style? I hope so, since I was just kidding with you too.
Look, can we stop our fun and games and get back to the issue of my question. Can anyone explain this to me?
To Bolbrana If gravity is like a carpet touching all four wall of a room and you pull at one end the other end moves instantaniously. Can the same not be said of gravity?
The fabric of carpets c.f spacetime The far edges of the carpet don't move instantaneously either - any force you apply at 'this' end has to be transmitted through the fabric to the other end. The fastest that can happen is close to the speed of sound in the carpet. That depends on its stiffness and density but is a helluva lot less than the speed of light. Cheers, Ron.
Ok if Gravity does not move faster than the speed of light what are some theories of faster than light travel.
I thought the idea was that things could travel faster than the speed of light no problem. its that nothing w/ any mass could *accelerate* to or past the speed of light. if the object is created moving faster than the speed of light, then it's all good. I forget where I read that, though.... also, the relative speed of an object breaks the whole faster then the speed of light thing- two pulsars moving apart from each other are each moving faster than the speed of light, from the standpoint fot he other.
