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Reiku
10-02-07, 06:16 AM
The Eye of The Electrical Storm

If God cannot be in the presence of evil, how can He know of an evil act? How can He know that we have sinned and when we haven't? How does He keep His all-seeing eye on mankind?
Well, I beleive potential consciousness energy is in everything. And this energy became real, and was divided among various living tissues, that were operated by simple electrical and magnetic currents. If my body is made up of these impulses, then every emotion, thought and feeling must be known - but a mediation must occur for a God of Good to know of such things... especially when i do not believe that God can know every event, or perhaps more accurately be in the presence of every event. A little ignorance must occur... so when God does move throughout this world of Good and Evil, how does He keep His all-seeing eye on the evil, and simultaneously on the Good?
A typical theologian would say an Angel must be present during such transactions. That's a nice theory, and there is nothing i can say that can counter such a postulate... mind you, all good, as we are told, comes from God, and that only good comes from Him. He allowed Angels a long time ago to have such authority, and they misused their positions. Though, as far as my understandings of the Bible goes, they still have free-will... and they might not have. This is a very controversial theory... though, understanding would be found i believe in the nature of the conversation between Satan and God JHVH, found in the book of Job 1:6 - (which would not have been a direct conversation. Instead, a mediator was needed - and i interpret this as Jesus Christ Himself, who was able to stand in the presence of evil, something His spiritual form, or Father cannot do... but nevertheless, was [still] ''one'' with His father, as He also created the Heavens and the Earth - more wisdom can be found here, as Jesus, the Living Word says... 'I Am the Alpha and Omega... the First and Last, the Beginning and the End', Revelations 22:13).
Now... how does God keep His eye on us?
Well... i have an unorthodoxical idea. The typical answer would be that God knows everything from start to finish. Fine... on the macroscopic scale of things, but order breaks down at the microscopic scale, and Uncertainty takes hold... thus:

My interpretation says that God knows what we can, for instance 'see' within a frame of time through electrical and magnetical interactions. A photon of light emits a field of electrical force that, in any interpretation, is Good, because God is light. Though, if God is light, wouldn't that suggest that he provides the light for us to sin sexually, for example?
This is controversial at best. We could say that this isn’t all Gods fault, and we can lay it down on man…
When it reaches the human eye and hits off the retina, a series of events occur. A molecule called the ''Cis-Retinal,'' changes into a molecule called the ''Trans-Retinal,'' which is not a chemical change, but a change of isotope found in the spatial structure of the single molecule - these groups of particles are doing this, because of an increase in photon energy. It increases by a value of E/c^2 (twice the magnitude). This then activates a natural protein change found within the retina, which in turn changes chemical properties and ''attaches'' itself to another protein. These chemical reactions transfer energy and molecules are inexorably split, causing electrical channels to become closed.
This all causes an electrical imbalance, inherent within the internal channels, and are carried by electrolytes through nerve systems to the brain... the processing system, which in turn, is basically more electrical signals being interpreted. Now, could we imagine that God is Magnetical... a sentient being, probably billions of light years away at any single time... perhaps even in a parallel universe, and ''objectively knows'' about what we are seeing through the simple and obvious fact that electronic and magnetic forces are somehow the same thing, just two differential sides to a single coin... is this how God can become ignorant of being present when evil is occurring, but knowing about it simultaneously? It is, of course, for this reason, i believe God is Electromagnetical in nature, and uses this power to fascinating odds... It is for this reason, God is the ultimate ''fly on the wall.''
I have more to say... I complete it in next thread.

Reiku
10-02-07, 06:17 AM
My good hero and friend, Fred Alan Wolf believes that one day math will solve everything. Though, if we hold onto this belief, one might even realize that hope, since hope and belief go hand-in-hand, is quintessentially every scientist’s greatest and weakest strength.
Math is a man-made function. Without man, mathematics could not describe the world, naturally... and if mathematics is on the ''supposed'' brink of a unified field theory, then before such an equation transpires, one might need to realize that the observer and perhaps God are essential ingredients... Remember, i believe that God is a physical field of electromagnetism... another reason why i believe God is electromagnetic, is because of similar theories suggesting God might be Gravity itself. Though, this is not entirely the reason... you see, the electromagnetic force is a massive 10^44 more powerful than gravity; this is why i believe God is Electromagnetic - since logic would suggest He would be the most powerful force out of the two - the weak and strong forces where forces i never found comfortable to come to use, since they deal with the actual emission and decay of every particle in the universe... it could simply register an answer too quickly in describing a cosmic intelligence.
Thus, i wished to use the electrical and magnetical phenomena, and it's mediator, the photon of light energy. All elements, most essential to life, are the scientific equivalence to a theologians dream. The electrical function throughout all of matter, is seen to us as curving to and fro into new centres of new atoms, every spit second. They may not even go in-between. Instead, the electron can be seen as existing as a cloud in one atom, and then, just as quickly, inhabit a new centre of a new atom.
If God is a physical force, namely electrical and magnetical, then God is also in the perfect conditions to control electrical currents and channels inside one's mind. For this reason, He may even be able to connect to our thoughts, wishes and prayers.
I came across the idea's of a physician called H. P. Blavatsky* in her 1890 article, 'Kosmic Mind.' She believed that the cosmos is intelligent. She holds to this fact, by introducing us into realizing that we are told, even to this day according to some particle physicists, that an atom is totally equivalent to an entire universe. And in each of these universes, a field of consciousness exists.
Her idea's so strongly connected with my own - i believed. Though she invites the reader into realizing that 'universal intelligence,' was one of the oldest teachings esoteric philosophy, she continues to expand that, in each atom, there was an intelligence: and that by using this theory, she believed that every cell contained within the whole composition of a human body has a little brain of its own - including memory.
Of course, we know for sure today that cells are simpler than this. A single cell, for instance, will have a D.N.A. of intelligence, but it is hardly comparable with everyday human intelligence that we deal with. Though, saying that, the individual cells i am made of has a very small amount of energy, it seems to make up the whole 'me'. Thus, one can attain that cells have [a low type of] intelligence, but only due to their environments. A single cell is lame, and inadequate. It requires the stable help of surrounding sister and brother-cells to function and cohere. How they do so, is up for debate.

* There are of course, other biologists who believe that cells alone make up an entire beings intelligence... such as Candace Pert, a neurobiologist who believes that our minds are in every cell of our bodies.

For instance, we have the enigmatic 'theory of intelligent design,' within not only life, but also cosmology: though, these that deal with a specially-placed planet, not too far away, and neither too close to the Sun, should be classed under as a type of Anthropic Cosmological Principle.
The idea that life, especially when concerning human life, seems incredibly intricate and complex - far too complex to be that simply of nature herself. The thing that always gets me, isn't the biological construction of a man, but rather his or her intelligence. I also often wonder how much energy the human being requires at any given time, and wonder if consciousness arises out of those depths. Perhaps the human consciousness requires absolutely no energy...
Somehow, out of the billions of creatures and animals, we have strived to the top of the food chain, with the ability, not only to describe and name reality as it unfolds around us, but also able to appreciate it, in a ways that only gods could do. It is for this very reason, i tend to believe in a cosmological intelligence... Though, to have the best chance of living, the universe would need to have an all-permeating field of conscious energy... this idea might seem strange at first, but i believe that there is indeed a [physical] field of force, responsible for all consciousness. Electrons would be perfect candidates to be able to transfer this conscious energy.
Conscious energy has i have mentioned take on two guises. A potential form and a real form. For consciousness to take on a real form, matter must be present. One could say that matter is the conduit for the soul and consciousness.
Unlike virtual particles, real particles contain real energy, and this energy between two particles cannot be transferred unless carried through angular momentum, and if we consider this, then virtual conscious energy can only be transferred into the real field through such a transferal. If we say that that two charged particles using the time variable (t=0) – which is the past variable – they can be shared through an interval of a mathematical calculus of 0<t<r/c…
Perhaps these spinning particles squeeze consciousness into existence. This is of course a similar idea concerning a spin-mediated consciousness. To think that self and being is actually transported from atom to atom through the angular mediation between subatomic particles is a truely mind-boggling idea.

Yorda
10-03-07, 09:01 AM
I came across the idea's of a physician called H. P. Blavatsky* in her 1890 article, 'Kosmic Mind.' She believed that the cosmos is intelligent. She holds to this fact, by introducing us into realizing that we are told, even to this day according to some particle physicists, that an atom is totally equivalent to an entire universe.

blavatsky was a hashish smoker with great ideas, she said that there were giants in the past and bible confirms it in gen6:4

she believed that every cell contained within the whole composition of a human body has a little brain of its own - including memory.
Of course, we know for sure today that cells are simpler than this. A single cell, for instance, will have a D.N.A. of intelligence, but it is hardly comparable with everyday human intelligence that we deal with.

she didn't mean that they have human intelligence, just intelligence...

* There are of course, other biologists who believe that cells alone make up an entire beings intelligence... such as Candace Pert, a neurobiologist who believes that our minds are in every cell of our bodies.

the mind is most concentrated in the brain. some people who have changed organs like heart have changed personality... because the mind is in the heart too

maxg
10-03-07, 10:39 AM
H. P. Blavatsky was never a physician. It's doubtful that she even had the equivalant of a high school education. As for her books, they simply cobble together everything she ever read from all kinds of religous/spiritual texts. The investigation of her by the Society for Psychical Research found that she was a fraud. I can't believe that anyone today would take her seriously. She did smoke hashish, though.

Yorda
10-03-07, 11:06 AM
I can't believe that anyone today would take her seriously.

any reason we shouldn't?

She did smoke hashish, though.

lol, have you read anything she wrote (http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd1-1-01.htm)? (the "book of dzyan" was a figment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Dzyan) of her imagination she wrote with the help of hash and telepatic spirits from atlantis and tibet)

"She wrote, sometimes under the influence of hashish, several books filled with esoteric lore, which owed a great deal to Hindu and Buddhist systems of thought, and brought to public awareness in the West such concepts as karma, prana, kundalini, yoga and reincarnation.” -- Benjamin Walker, Tantrism: Its Secret Principles and Practices

She once said: “Hasheesh multiplies one’s life a thousandfold. My experiences are as real as if they were ordinary events of actual life. Ah! I have the explanation. It is a recollection of my former existences, my previous incarnations. It is a [b]wonderful drug and it clears up profound mystery.”

references: http://www.gaiaguys.net/666.htm (search for "hashish" with ctrl+f)

Reiku
10-03-07, 02:09 PM
I only meant, by the way that this specific work corrolated with my own... But as for the rest of her work, i cannot say i am convinced... at all.

draqon
10-03-07, 03:34 PM
so how does this relate to math/physics?

Yorda
10-03-07, 04:49 PM
I only meant, by the way that this specific work corrolated with my own... But as for the rest of her work, i cannot say i am convinced... at all.

why Nut? becos i think sche wrote sum cool things even though she cheeted by using:m::m::m:

maxg
10-03-07, 07:55 PM
(the "book of dzyan" was a figment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Dzyan) of her imagination she wrote with the help of hash and telepatic spirits from atlantis and tibet)


I'm going to assume your posts on the subject are a joke.

draqon
10-03-07, 08:37 PM
MODS!!!! this should be moved to religion/philosophy

Reiku
10-04-07, 05:54 AM
Draqon... i don't think it should. This isn't about religion. This is about a God and His being from a hypothetical quantum physical viewpoint... Also, there is nothing philosophical about this; well, not really.

Reiku
10-04-07, 08:12 AM
God isn't only energy, He is material as well. He is, as i described Him, the electromagnetic force field. This means that the equations of relativity describing an electron moving through a wire unifying magnetism, will be tiny ''nano-bots,'' with a planned course [this can be seen in light of the Bohmian Interpretation. Everything is on a preplanned course through spacetime]. Its course might not seem supreme to us, but we normally don't sit back down to contemplate the uniqueness of the atomic and subatomic composition of the mind...
God won't only use electrons. He will also use other biomagnetic materials. First of all, he would use a mediator for information.
In physics, it is hypothesized that we can shoot two photons into an atom and entangle their properties as they shoot right back out again. The entangled behaviour means that since they came into close contact with each other, they defined their spinity. I call this, Information Coupling.
God should also have a particle that triggers a similar respomse to subatomic information transferral. That i think, would be the hypothetical excitation of the gravitational field we call the graviphoton. One reason why this energy is usefull, is because it couples with spin 1/2 particles... and they would naturally be attracted to electrons, being themselves 1/2 spin particles...

Electron tubules also would be a relative theory in all of this - remember, microtubule theory was created by Penrose. The graviphoton might even couple with the microtubules...

We also have magnetic monopoles as being a candidate. The gravitational force that is exerted between two masses (m1 and m2) are seperated by a distance r given by Newtons law of gravitation, which is written as:

F_g = Gm1m2/r^2

This law, in words states that the gravitational force exerted between two bodies in fact decreases as one over the square of the distance seperating the two masses. We know that the garvitational force is attracted, because the mass, distance and the gravitational constant always remain positive.

Charles Augustine de Coulomb in 1785 showed that the force of attraction and the force of repulsion between two electrically charged bodies and also between magnetic poles also obey an inverse square law. The force for two magnetic bodies are given as:

F_m = (1/µ)(p1p2/r^2)

Where µ is a constant of proportionality known as the magnetic permeability, and p1 and p2 are the strengths of the magnetic monopoles, and of course, r is he distance between the two poles.

God might be able to control electrical channels inside the brain. It might be the only way for God to know events unfolding, to be, paradoxically in the back watching. The temporal lobes and the God Box are prime examples of a control room.

fo3
10-04-07, 08:42 AM
God isn't only energy, He is material as well. He is, as i described Him, the electromagnetic force field.
God won't only use electrons. He will also use other biomagnetic materials.

Thats a lot of big words. I suppose its too much to ask for any solid evidence in a thread posted on the science forums and physics and math subforum? This sort of posts belong to the SciFi or Free Thoughts subforums, not here.