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Orleander
12-06-07, 10:58 AM
When my hands are dry, I get a lot of papercuts. I put lotion on them and I don' get any.

If it just coincidence or does the texture of skin determine whether or not a paper cut happens?

Enmos
12-06-07, 11:14 AM
You mean actual paper cuts, or 'skin cracking' (lol :shrug:) because of the cold ?

Orleander
12-06-07, 11:15 AM
paper cuts. I handle a lot of blueprints and I my hands get sliced up.

nietzschefan
12-06-07, 11:17 AM
Same thing as a dry leaf VS "green" leaf (didn't you get them commercials down der?).

Orleander
12-06-07, 11:18 AM
Same thing as a dry leaf VS "green" leaf (didn't you get them commercials down der?).

no. Why would a leaf worry about paper cuts?

Enmos
12-06-07, 11:31 AM
no. Why would a leaf worry about paper cuts?

It's probably got something to do with the fact the moist skin is more flexible than dry skin. And thus less easily cut.

draqon
12-06-07, 01:39 PM
Orleander's skin is cracking...lesions are formed along her skin cells...cracks are filled with bacteria and grease...

Enmos
12-06-07, 01:53 PM
Orleander's skin is cracking...lesions are formed along her skin cells...cracks are filled with bacteria and grease...

Draqon, this is a very serious matter. Don't be joking about this.
*grin*

draqon
12-06-07, 02:20 PM
fine Orleander...even thou I really don't like you at all...here try this: Clearasil

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Orleander
12-06-07, 02:21 PM
I have him on ignore but I see what people quote.
And the little toad wonders why I have him on ignore.

S.A.M.
12-06-07, 02:56 PM
Is because you wash your hands. When detergents are used frequently, they not only strip the skin of essential oils, they also weaken the links of the phospholipids that make up the walls of your cells; if the oils are not replaced, it has the effect of making the skin "brittle" and hence more likely subject to "tearing" or rupture

draqon
12-06-07, 03:00 PM
wow S.A.M you are so smart ... your hands must be silky smooth.

Orleander
12-06-07, 03:00 PM
I don't have cracked skin. I have paper cuts. I get many more paper cuts before I put lotion on my hands.
Why don't I get paper cuts on lotioned hands?

Donnal
12-06-07, 03:15 PM
no. Why would a leaf worry about paper cuts?

hahahaha:D

Donnal
12-06-07, 03:15 PM
true true true hahaha

cosmictraveler
12-06-07, 06:23 PM
How about wearing some type of glove when handling the paper. Like

surgical type gloves for example?

Orleander
12-06-07, 06:27 PM
yeah, I could, but....
It still doesn't explain why I get fewer cuts with lotioned hands.

cosmictraveler
12-06-07, 06:28 PM
Perhaps you can grip the paper easier with stuff on your hands?:shrug:

Orleander
12-06-07, 06:30 PM
Perhaps you can grip the paper easier with stuff on your hands?:shrug:

LOL, I do rub it in ya know. I'm not dripping lotion. :p
If I just got my hands wet would I get fewer cuts?

cosmictraveler
12-06-07, 06:31 PM
But the paper would become wet also.

Orleander
12-06-07, 06:33 PM
so the paper would absorb the oil from the lotion as well??? And that's why I don't get cut?

cosmictraveler
12-06-07, 06:35 PM
I'd think that anything you put on your hands to lubricate them would make

it easier to grip the paper then just dry skin.

Orleander
12-06-07, 06:37 PM
so papercuts have nothing to do with the skin, but with the grip?

cosmictraveler
12-06-07, 08:32 PM
Well the skin grips the paper so the skin has allot to do with it I'd think. If

your skin is dry then it would seem to me it would "slip" more than "grip". I

think they make a special type of glove just for paper.

"Polygenex All-DayŽ Micro-Dot Gloves are based on the same patented technology as the popular All-DayŽ Nylon Lab gloves. The Micro-Dot Gloves have special soft polymer micro dots embedded into all fingers and thumb prints to provide superior tactile properties for customers handling quantities of prints and paper. The glove is made from a continuous polymer fiber for long term use, natural flexibility and dexterity. An ergonomic stretch-knit design helps reduce hand strain and discomfort. The gloves are fully launderable and reusable. They are packaged by 5 pairs with dots on one side or both sides (ambidextrous). One Universal size fits most, XL for large hands."

http://www.polygenex.com/mdot.htm

cosmictraveler
12-08-07, 09:43 AM
Did you see this above article?

Orleander
12-27-07, 01:17 PM
I have another skin question:

While cooking for xmas I burned two of my fingers on my electric stovetop. I expected them to blister, but they didn't. They are now white, wrinkled, and kinda hard, like a callus. Did I burn my fingers, or did I cook them? Why didn't they blister?

cosmictraveler
12-27-07, 03:13 PM
I have another skin question:

While cooking for xmas I burned two of my fingers on my electric stovetop. I expected them to blister, but they didn't. They are now white, wrinkled, and kinda hard, like a callus. Did I burn my fingers, or did I cook them? Why didn't they blister?

Did you put your gloves on ? :shrug:

Captain Kremmen
12-27-07, 03:41 PM
fine Orleander...even thou I really don't like you at all...here try this: Clearasil

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/cl/clearasil-ultra-deep-pore-treatment-pads-65-.jpg

Draqon. Orleander's got you on ignore.
She'll never see the Clearasil.

Bells
12-27-07, 04:21 PM
Orleander

Firstly, you should wear rubber gloves when you do the washing up or have to immerse your hands in water and detergent. You should also wear them if you are about to use any household chemicals that may get on your hands. You should only wash your hands in soap free solutions, as soap can strip the skin of the oils that would normally moisturise your skin.

Buy a good hand lotion and apply it throughout the day. Something like the QV products (http://www.epharmacy.com.au/product.asp?id=4023&pname=Ego+QV+Cream+250g+Jar), which are very good. They also have body washes, which you can use in the shower or to simply wash your hands with.

Or you could just ask your local pharmacist which product they could recommend. If you have an aloe vera plant, you could just use the gel from that too (or purchase aloe gel, cream or lotion) and apply that.

If you need to handle a lot of paper throughout the day, you should try to wear gloves as well for that, as it will protect your hands.

It will not clear up overnight and could take several weeks, if not months, to clear up and soften.

Orleander
12-27-07, 04:38 PM
Orleander

Firstly, you should wear rubber gloves when you do the washing up or have to immerse your hands in water and detergent. You should also wear them if you are about to use any household chemicals that may get on your hands. You should only wash your hands in soap free solutions, as soap can strip the skin of the oils that would normally moisturise your skin.

Buy a good hand lotion and apply it throughout the day. Something like the QV products (http://www.epharmacy.com.au/product.asp?id=4023&pname=Ego+QV+Cream+250g+Jar), which are very good. They also have body washes, which you can use in the shower or to simply wash your hands with.

Or you could just ask your local pharmacist which product they could recommend. If you have an aloe vera plant, you could just use the gel from that too (or purchase aloe gel, cream or lotion) and apply that.

If you need to handle a lot of paper throughout the day, you should try to wear gloves as well for that, as it will protect your hands.

It will not clear up overnight and could take several weeks, if not months, to clear up and soften.

I'm confused. I don't wash dishes. I cook, my husband washes. I don't have dry cracked skin. I just notice more paper cuts when my skin has no lotion on it. :shrug:

And then there is the burn from cooking at xmas.

Orleander
12-27-07, 04:39 PM
Draqon. Orleander's got you on ignore.
She'll never see the Clearasil.

Thanks Chris. I don't understand what pimple pads have to do with dry hands, but then, I am considering the source. :D

Orleander
12-27-07, 04:39 PM
Did you put your gloves on ? :shrug:

LOL, people cook with gloves? :bugeye:

CarvedMercury
12-27-07, 05:02 PM
I have another skin question:

While cooking for xmas I burned two of my fingers on my electric stovetop. I expected them to blister, but they didn't. They are now white, wrinkled, and kinda hard, like a callus. Did I burn my fingers, or did I cook them? Why didn't they blister?

I'm sure thats normal. All the soldering iron burns I've had went exactly like that. Maybe a lower heat for a longer time (ie some boiling water) would work well to make them blister.

Orleander
12-27-07, 05:09 PM
I could actually hear it burning. <shudder>
Thanks, I think you are right!

Fraggle Rocker
12-27-07, 05:37 PM
I don't have cracked skin. I have paper cuts. I get many more paper cuts before I put lotion on my hands. Why don't I get paper cuts on lotioned hands?If you examine the process of paper cutting microscopically, like any slicing type of cutting it's friction at work. The thin edge of the paper is nothing more or less than a blade. Notice that this doesn't happen so easily with thicker paper? Because of this, the frictional force of the paper moving against your skin is not distributed over a wide area; all of it is absorbed by a small number of skin cells. "Friction" is just a fancy name for the force of the blade attempting to drag the part of your skin it's touching away from the rest of your skin. In a very small area, the forces that hold that skin tight to the rest of your skin are weak, while the force concentrated on the narrow blade edge is very strong, so the blade actually does rip a few cells away from their neighbors.

Hand lotion has many properties, but in the context of this discussion the most important is lubrication. It is oil after all, and we lubricate just about everything with one type of oil or another. The meaning of lubrication is to reduce frictional force. You put oil in your car engine to reduce the frictional force between the crankshaft and the main bearings, so the one will rotate smoothly within the other, instead of dragging on them so you immediately lose power and shortly thereafter come to a halt as they grind each other into immobility. The oil on your skin reduces the frictional force of the dragging blade of paper, so it can't get any purchase and start ripping your skin cells out of your hand.People cook with gloves?In the Nanny State, amid all the fears of disease transmission? I'll bet the lady who heats up the frozen hamburger patties in your company cafeteria wears gloves. I've even seen them in fast-food joints.

S.A.M.
12-27-07, 05:45 PM
Take two drops of glycerine. Add two drops of fresh lemon juice, rub it into your fingers. Works wonders for dry skin.

kevinalm
12-27-07, 06:31 PM
I have another skin question:

While cooking for xmas I burned two of my fingers on my electric stovetop. I expected them to blister, but they didn't. They are now white, wrinkled, and kinda hard, like a callus. Did I burn my fingers, or did I cook them? Why didn't they blister?

You must have touched a 'burner' part of the surface while it was on. It's paradoxical, but you often get a much less severe burn on a very hot surface than on a cooler surface. Most people who have welded have had this experience, with the hard white callus like burns you describe. The best explaination I have heard is that a very hot surface flash dries the outer layers of the skin which then act like an insulator, giving you time to react and let go before a lot of damage is done to the deeper layers.

I've had the experience myself. Grabbed a 3/4 inch shaft with a gear on it, didn't know my dad had just arc welded the gear in place. Didn't hurt a lot, had the same dry callus white spots. Never did blister, the white skin just pealed off a week or two later and it was healed.

[a-5]
12-27-07, 10:25 PM
fine Orleander...even thou I really don't like you at all...here try this: Clearasil

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/cl/clearasil-ultra-deep-pore-treatment-pads-65-.jpg

LMFAO. I love you, draqon. You just made my day.

PS: I still think you should go play Russian Roulette with a semi-automatic. :]

Orleander
12-28-07, 09:18 AM
....The best explaination I have heard is that a very hot surface flash dries the outer layers of the skin which then act like an insulator, giving you time to react and let go before a lot of damage is done to the deeper layers.....

yeah, it was the burner. Thanks Kevin! That completely makes sense. :)

visceral_instinct
01-01-08, 06:44 PM
You must have touched a 'burner' part of the surface while it was on. It's paradoxical, but you often get a much less severe burn on a very hot surface than on a cooler surface. Most people who have welded have had this experience, with the hard white callus like burns you describe. The best explaination I have heard is that a very hot surface flash dries the outer layers of the skin which then act like an insulator, giving you time to react and let go before a lot of damage is done to the deeper layers.



so that's how I cauterized my mouth lining eating pizza...

kmguru
01-01-08, 08:12 PM
It's probably got something to do with the fact the moist skin is more flexible than dry skin. And thus less easily cut.

That is the correct answer. Many (many) years ago, when I was handling blueprints including running the blue print machine, I had occasional paper cut. So, my wife told me to use "Corn Huskers Lotion" which is Glycerin based. It helped a lot.