The site itself is very encouragable. In this sense, I mean that if one says one thing, many can follow without any true integrity: We has a saying in Scotland forpeople who follow the encoragable; they are like sheep.

Have noticed, as I am sure as everyone has, there has been a lot of bigoted behaviour, and even personal remarks that are disproportional to a site that is credited as being an ‘’Intelligent Community,’’/ and yet, it is on frequent occasions…. Not.

Now, I am not going to name any names, but I’ve met a lot of good people here, and learned a lot from them, but there is one thing I will not tolerate is dogmatism, inherent in the New World of Science. Because such over-speculative affirmations usually have us either in awe or pure discontent, we tend to throw it into area’s disproportional to:

1/ the thought involved
2/ the time involved in making such work
And 3/ general courtesy

And instead what usually happens… it is exiled as though it means nothing, This can be damaging sometimes, because from a psychological analysis, the actions of such an event make the individual feel rather inadequate at times.

I have also noticed that there is a lot of hate against homosexuality. Yes… this is human nature, but it doesn’t excuse the fact that it is the lowest kind of behavior a human can express. It shows that these people are nothing but nastiness personified. And yet, here is the irony. Instead of the mod’s making a correct solution, they invoke site laws saying that they can (that is the bigots I am referring to), do this because they have some ‘’flawed right,’’ as though it is accepted in every day like. But this isn’t true… a homosexual can go through life without coming across such homophobic people…. It’s just very unfortunate that some of us have to.

My point being, where is the empathy>? 0 The Site’s flawed. Totally.

Summary: Yet again Reiku bitches about his threads being moved to Pseudoscience, and about that he's gay, and that nobody here loves him.

Actually i speak for all of those who are gay here. Surely you didn't think i was being selfish?

I speak for everyone who are in the same positions - because we both know there hasn't only been a lot of complaints on the homophobia, but also the unjustificational removal of threads.

Don't be so daft Avatar. You know what I speak of. I wll hold you in contempt of this site, if you ignore evidece that cannot be refuted.

wOOt?!

The sites become boring and I am not really interested in hearing more about the people who post, they yack about their lives but I am already knowing them abit from prior posts. I think even that the thread Do Photons Have Mass may already have been done by me earlier, no doubt someone did it even before any of us :S I seen alot of repeat threads where they basically go yapping about weather or stuff in the end.

Sure, there's always complains. It's natural with such a big user base. Can't please everyone.
So I put your complain in the "So what?" bin and forget about it.

Reiku I like you as a friend, you gayness is not on my accord.

Yes well, Owl, it's expected when people continue in such profanities like a broaken record. What do you really want those who are oppressed round here sometimes>>>>? Just sit down like a good bitch and behave. We have the right to espress what we wantm especially when it is put in the site feedback.

sit down and pray...to the lord.

Reiku I like you as a friend, you gayness is not on my accord.

What's that got to do the with the price of a bunch of grapes?

Why tell me to pray to Yah'weh my father, when you don'teven believe in him?

I just meant there's alot of repeat threads so the sites boringer :S

''The So-What Bin''?????
Did you buy that from Ikea?

I just meant there's alot of repeat threads so the sites boringer :S

Then don't you think you are a bit hypocritical? After all, if the site is so boringm why are you even in here?

By nature I am boring :A u sound angry

I take it we don't inhibit free speech enough? That's a criticism I haven't heard before.

Free speach is fine.... just so long as some pivotal lines are not breached.

My take Reiku is that many people simply dont like you because you lie, misrepresent science, and continuously complain about how you are victimized. As a result your image is basically that of a pain-in-the-ass.

If you want to change that then its going to take alot of effort on your part... probably ten times the effort a new user would have to put in to establishing a positive image.

If you don't want to change your image then your present path will lead to a separation between you and this site.

That's the question, isnt it? Where's the line?

My take Reiku is that many people simply dont like you because you lie, misrepresent science, and continuously complain about how you are victimized. As a result your image is basically that of a pain-in-the-ass.

If you want to change that then its going to take alot of effort on your part... probably ten times the effort a new user would have to put in to establishing a positive image.

If you don't want to change your image then your present path will lead to a separation between you and this site.

That was well0below the belt.

1. When have I lied?

2. To misreperesent science is the only was science develops: ia new idea', wild speculations and general theories.

''and continuously complain about how you are victimized.''

Well, it is happening. Ben does target my work. Not only that, but many other people here have been oppressed by similar behaviour... so your point holds to ziltch.

''If you want to change that then its going to take alot of effort on your part... probably ten times the effort a new user would have to put in to establishing a positive image.''

:shrug: Change I'm happy for who i am. Are you, while we are on the immature subject?

''If you don't want to change your image then your present path will lead to a separation between you and this site.''

What makes you think i care? :rolleyes:

That was well0below the belt.

The intention was to call it like it is.


1. When have I lied?

I would be happy to dig up instances, but before I do... do you understand what a lie is and do you really think you have not lied quite a few times?


2. To misreperesent science is the only was science develops: ia new idea', wild speculations and general theories.

Speculation and theories are not misrepresentations of science. Calling a speculation truth and inventing a theory based on incorrect / absent assertions is a misrepresentation of science.


''and continuously complain about how you are victimized.''

Well, it is happening. Ben does target my work. Not only that, but many other people here have been oppressed by similar behaviour... so your point holds to ziltch.

Ben is taking the time to critically review your assertions. Your oppression complex comes because the majority of your assertions are not science and you don't like that Ben can recognize that.


''If you want to change that then its going to take alot of effort on your part... probably ten times the effort a new user would have to put in to establishing a positive image.''

:shrug: Change I'm happy for who i am. Are you, while we are on the immature subject?

It's not about changing who you are... its about changing your image (i.e. how you are seen / judged by others).


''If you don't want to change your image then your present path will lead to a separation between you and this site.''

What makes you think i care? :rolleyes:

If you really didn't care then this thread and the multitude of similar ones would not exist.

And 3/ general courtesy

So...you're saying that I should be nice and let you post bad science in the physics section?

What makes you think i care?

Because since you started here, there are probably fifteen threads exactly like this one where you make a bunch of accusations and then threaten to leave.

But then you always show up again, and all of this just amounts to wasted bandwidth.

''I would be happy to dig up instances, but before I do... do you understand what a lie is and do you really think you have not lied quite a few times''

Please do... I will wipe the floor with you.

''Speculation and theories are not misrepresentations of science. Calling a speculation truth and inventing a theory based on incorrect / absent assertions is a misrepresentation of science.''

That didn't even make sense to my proposal...

''Ben is taking the time to critically review your assertions. Your oppression complex comes because the majority of your assertions are not science and you don't like that Ben can recognize that.''

Consiereing he wiped out 8 theads in one week, and only touched two others... No... it's personal, so don't bother trying to patronize me. I am a very tolerent man, but you are really testin my patience.

''If you really didn't care then this thread and the multitude of similar ones would not exist.''

Do yourself a favor, and rub two brain cells together. You said:

''''If you don't want to change your image then your present path will lead to a separation between you and this site.''

Suggesting that i will inexoraby get myself banned from this site. So i said:

''What makes you think i care? ''

So it has nothing to do with what you said and thought.

I thik that's enough for tonight with you.

It's not about changing who you are... its about changing your image (i.e. how you are seen / judged by others).Lol. So—we're suppose to change our images now, to conform with your specifications, to appease your sensibilities, to indulge your regard? Isn't that being a bit demanding?

I'll tell you what. Set up a poll:

1. Does Reiku present science

2. I wouldn't know?

3, Absolutely not.

??? Mmmmm - on you go.

wOOt?!

The sites become boring and I am not really interested in hearing more about the people who post, they yack about their lives but I am already knowing them abit from prior posts. I think even that the thread Do Photons Have Mass may already have been done by me earlier, no doubt someone did it even before any of us :S I seen alot of repeat threads where they basically go yapping about weather or stuff in the end.
So what are you doing here ?

Exactly. I said the exact same thing.

My point being, where is the empathy>? 0 The Site’s flawed. Totally.

So what are you doing here ?

One wonders...

Lol. So—we're suppose to change our images now, to conform with your specifications, to appease your sensibilities, to indulge your regard? Isn't that being a bit demanding?

To answer your question, no. When I used the word 'your' it referred to Reiku (not you). When I used the word 'others' it referred to other members -plural- (not me singular).

I'll tell you what. Set up a poll:

1. Does Reiku present science

2. I wouldn't know?

3, Absolutely not.

??? Mmmmm - on you go.

Will you bitch and moan if the majority result is no?

''I would be happy to dig up instances, but before I do... do you understand what a lie is and do you really think you have not lied quite a few times''

Please do... I will wipe the floor with you.

Ok and good luck with that. I'll also provide a definition of the word 'lie' as your lack of response to the question might be suggestive you really don't understand what a lie is.





To misreperesent science is the only way science develops: ia new idea', wild speculations and general theories.



Speculation and theories are not misrepresentations of science. Calling a speculation truth and inventing a theory based on incorrect / absent assertions is a misrepresentation of science.


That didn't even make sense to my proposal...



Maybe not in Bizarro land but on Earth it makes sense in the English language.


''Ben is taking the time to critically review your assertions. Your oppression complex comes because the majority of your assertions are not science and you don't like that Ben can recognize that.''

Consiereing he wiped out 8 theads in one week, and only touched two others... No... it's personal, so don't bother trying to patronize me. I am a very tolerent man, but you are really testin my patience.

It sounds like Ben validated two of your threads as real science. Maybe you should compare those two to the other eight and try to understand the differences.


''If you really didn't care then this thread and the multitude of similar ones would not exist.''

Do yourself a favor, and rub two brain cells together. You said:

An ad-hom start...


''''If you don't want to change your image then your present path will lead to a separation between you and this site.''

Suggesting that i will inexoraby get myself banned from this site.

Followed by an incorrect interpretation (separation is just often self-chosen... like the times you claimed to leave).


So i said:

''What makes you think i care? ''

Hallelujah, you really did say that.


So it has nothing to do with what you said and thought.

I thik that's enough for tonight with you.

Only in Bizarro land again.

And to follow up with the committment made in my last post:


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lie1 /laɪ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lahy] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, lied, ly·ing.
–noun 1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
–verb (used without object) 5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
6. to express what is false; convey a false impression.
–verb (used with object) 7. to bring about or affect by lying (often used reflexively): to lie oneself out of a difficulty; accustomed to lying his way out of difficulties.
—Idioms8. give the lie to, a. to accuse of lying; contradict.
b. to prove or imply the falsity of; belie: His poor work gives the lie to his claims of experience.

9. lie in one's throat or teeth, to lie grossly or maliciously: If she told you exactly the opposite of what she told me, she must be lying in her teeth. Also, lie through one's teeth.


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[Origin: bef. 900; (n.) ME; OE lyge; c. G Lüge, ON lygi; akin to Goth liugn; (v.) ME lien, OE léogan (intransit.); c. G lügen, ON ljūga, Goth liugan]


—Synonyms 1. prevarication, falsification. See falsehood. 5. prevaricate, fib.
—Antonyms 1. truth.
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Followed by examples (a very tiny subset) of you (Reiku) lying.



*Energy is temperature. This is well known

*Potential energy is in fact embedded into the Vacuum, which itself has an temperature...

*Energy has a temperature

*...gravity is curvature, is mass, and therefore, energy.

*Then in that case - Goodbye... and good riddance.

*If antimatter was created in equal proportion, then there could have been a very early antimatter-matter collision

*Light cones describe every possible future of a physical object in spacetime, given a current measurement during the present time.

Lol. So—we're suppose to change our images now, to conform with your specifications, to appease your sensibilities, to indulge your regard? Isn't that being a bit demanding?

If one wants to be part of a group -that is, get membership status, recognition and appreciation from other members-, then one actually has to be part of a group -that is, one actually has to get membership status, be such that other members recognize and appreciate one-.
That's how social groups work.

Wanting to belong to a group, but also wanting the group to conform to oneself - this is precarious. Anyone wanting the group to conform to oneself should be ready for unfavorable treatment or expulsion.

And to follow up with the committment made in my last post:




Followed by examples (a very tiny subset) of you (Reiku) lying.

You talk so much shit, your arse must get quite jealous.

You talk so much shit, your arse must get quite jealous.

Warning for Reiku on inappropriate language.

Christ on a stick. I thought the guy said his goodbye's already.

We gotta come up with a new policy: if anyone creates a goodbye thread, they get 24 hrs to post in that thread alone and then they're banned for 6 months.

Crunchy Cat:When I used the word 'your' it referred to Reiku (not you).Yet, when you refer to Reiku, you also refer to the whole of Sciforums, and to Sciforums' science community, and to Sciforums' science, and to the global science community, and to the faculty of science, and to the history of science, and to the honor and integrity placed upon science by yours truly. Look, I'm not so much defending Reiku on this issue, but it seems you're vying for science as a demoiselle in distress. What? is she so petite? not pretty enough to flaunt the latest fashions? Or is it that she's too delicate to be seen outside her ivory tower escorted by an eccentric gentleman friend from the wrong side of the tracks?

Christ on a stick. I thought the guy said his goodbye's already.

We gotta come up with a new policy: if anyone creates a goodbye thread, they get 24 hrs to post in that thread alone and then they're banned for 6 months.

I like it.

Crunchy Cat:Yet, when you refer to Reiku, you also refer to the whole of Sciforums, and to Sciforums' science community, and to Sciforums' science, and to the global science community, and to the faculty of science, and to the history of science, and to the honor and integrity placed upon science by yours truly. Look, I'm not so much defending Reiku on this issue, but it seems you're vying for science as a demoiselle in distress. What? is she so petite? not pretty enough to flout the latest fashions? Or is it that she's too delicate to be seen outside her ivory tower escorted by an eccentric gentleman friend from the wrong side of the tracks?

Ripley -

You want flair and chutzpah to be accepted in science?
And that those participating in science would hold themselves to the standard of being fluent on all levels of the Bloom Hierarchy (http://www.officeport.com/edu/blooms.htm)?
And that they would strive for integrity and maintain it?


Wonderful. :)

We gotta come up with a new policy: if anyone creates a goodbye thread, they get 24 hrs to post in that thread alone and then they're banned for 6 months.

I've... I've never read anything so beautiful! :worship:

I've... I've never read anything so beautiful! :worship:

It brings tears of joy to my eyes also! YEA!!!! GO FOR IT!!! :D

You talk so much shit, your arse must get quite jealous.

Although my 'arse' is an observer that can collapse a wave-function, it is not sentient, has no emotion, and can therefore not be jealous. What your ad-hom assertion does show is that you anthropomprhized my 'arse' just as your alpha sentient observer assertions shows that you anthropomorphize reality.

We gotta come up with a new policy: if anyone creates a goodbye thread, they get 24 hrs to post in that thread alone and then they're banned for 6 months.

You just came up with an excellent idea :thumbsup:

Crunchy Cat:Yet, when you refer to Reiku, you also refer to the whole of Sciforums, and to Sciforums' science community, and to Sciforums' science, and to the global science community, and to the faculty of science, and to the history of science, and to the honor and integrity placed upon science by yours truly.

Check out post #32. It's a very correctly interpreted paraphrase of the message.



Look, I'm not so much defending Reiku on this issue, but it seems you're vying for science as a demoiselle in distress. What? is she so petite? not pretty enough to flout the latest fashions? Or is it that she's too delicate to be seen outside her ivory tower escorted by an eccentric gentleman friend from the wrong side of the tracks?

Ripley, what do you value?

:rolleyes:I like it.

So... there is no such thing as a forum bullying, reducing individuals here to resort to mking such rash decisions? - And so as a punnishment, 6 months is the result? Disproportional and wrong.

:rolleyes:

So... there is no such thing as a forum bullying, reducing individuals here to resort to mking such rash decisions? - And so as a punnishment, 6 months is the result? Disproportional and wrong.

The solution is to remain cool headed and not make rash decisions.

The solution is to remain cool headed and not make rash decisions. >>>>>


No the real solution should be that no one should be subjected to forum bullying. :bugeye:

The solution is to remain cool headed and not make rash decisions. >>>>>


No the real solution should be that no one should be subjected to forum bullying. :bugeye:

Even so, making rash decisions don't help you towards achieving that solution.

No the real solution should be that no one should be subjected to forum bullying.

And bullying presumably includes having your threads moved to the pseudo-science forum/cesspool if you don't agree?

I'm still waiting for the poll you promised.

What's wrong with pseudoscience? I've posted there myself when I had nothing more than speculation on me.

[QUOTE=Crunchy Cat;1662732]Although my 'arse' is an observer that can collapse a wave-function, it is not sentient, has no emotion, and can therefore not be jealous. What your ad-hom assertion does show is that you anthropomprhized my 'arse' just as your alpha sentient observer assertions shows that you anthropomorphize reality

My arse collapsed a chair, proving that QM works at the macro level

There you go. Lets hear it for evidence!

As far as I understand, Reiku is questioning the very notion of "evidence".
At least philosophically, this is a perfectly legitimate concern.

Which has a place in the Philosophy section, not Science.

Philosophy and Science have been ignoring each other much, but mostly it is Science who ignores Philosophy.

They work at crossed purposes a lot.
It is inefficient.

True.

Evidence ? I'll find another chair and make a certified recording of it collapsing
in the presence of three witnesses

Philosophy and Science have been ignoring each other much, but mostly it is Science who ignores Philosophy.

They work at crossed purposes a lot.
It is inefficient.

That's simply not true. Philosophy spawned science which is now leaving analytical philosophy high and dry,

If you are referring to ethics, that's a different matter, although it does not belong solely in the domain of philosophy.

If you have something else in mind, I should be interested to hear what it is.

666

Science - revealing how things work
Philosophy - pondering why they must work just so

What's wrong with pseudoscience? I've posted there myself when I had nothing more than speculation on me.

The difference is...Reiku can't tell the difference. I'm sure a poll will actually give some empirical evidence that no one thinks that Reiku knows what he is talking about, which is probably why Reiku hasn't started one as he promised to a few posts back.

He didn't promise to set up a poll, he told someone else to do it.

Is Reiku really duendy? That would explain alot.

duendy was a [dumb] chick. But maybe she's faking and got a computer and installed a spellchecker.
I don't think that's likely.

I was just curious. I went to visit spurious forums and I saw ReikuTheWhite with the avatar blurb 'duendy'.

Unhappy Reiku is unhappy.

Science - revealing how things work
Philosophy - pondering why they must work just so

Scientists ponder why things work as they do . That's what give rise to hypotheses, theories and experiments. You are making an unjustified assumption distinction.

I fyou disagree, find me a few examples to support your view.

Science - revealing how things work
Philosophy - pondering why they must work just so


Scientists ponder why things work as they do . That's what gives rise to hypotheses, theories and experiments. You are making an unjustified assumption about how science works.

If you disagree, find me a few examples to the contrary.

Sorry for repeating myself. It must have been something I ate

wait...so Reiku is duendy? omg...that would explain a lot, the de javu's of mine

You have an audasity about you Draq, to be calling anyone under such tags... but i suppose i shouldn't be surprised... afterall, it's what you do on regular occasions round here.

wait...so Reiku is duendy? omg...that would explain a lot, the de javu's of mine

Naw, no way! Duendy never had a single scientific thought in her whole life. More than once she told us that "everything she knows" came to her through hallucinations while on drug trips. Besides, her knowledge of math stopped at the multiplication tables. Oh - and about every third word was an expletive.

OMG!!!??? Did i understand you right Read-Only... ? Did you just stick up 4 m3?

OMG!!!??? Did i understand you right Read-Only... ? Did you just stick up 4 m3?

Again - no way! Just because you're a fraud doesn't mean somone else can't be a little worse...

Fraud? You don't even know me. Because of that statement, you are now on my list, of the most illogical member here on this site.

I feel sorry for you... You assume so little, and proove so very much... Classical psychology of personal hate, and maybe even a bit of room for jealousy.

All these statements, and yet no proof pf me being a fraud/// It's very laughable really.

Fraud? You don't even know me. Because of that statement, you are now on my list, of the most illogical member here on this site.

I feel sorry for you... You assume so little, and proove so very much... Classical psychology of personal hate, and maybe even a bit of room for jealousy.

All these statements, and yet no proof pf me being a fraud/// It's very laughable really.

Nope.You are a fraud because you have REPEATEDLY refused my request to answer a direct question (for six or seven times now) and because you lied about leaving just to try to gain a little sympathy. Not only a fraud but childish as well.

All these statements, and yet no proof pf me being a fraud/// It's very laughable really.
Are you?

No.

I am a scientist of psychophsyics.

No.

I am a scientist of psychophsyics.

Please describe psychophsyics since the first conclusion I reach for this discipline is highly unflattering.

Nope.You are a fraud because you have REPEATEDLY refused my request to answer a direct question (for six or seven times now) and because you lied about leaving just to try to gain a little sympathy. Not only a fraud but childish as well.

And as i have explained, such behaviour is interrogated because of forum bullies... jst like you. Then we come to realize, it's annoying little parasites like yourself that keep us here.

Please describe psychophsyics since the first conclusion I reach for this discipline is highly unflattering.

Psycho - refers to the stud of the mind
The ''physics'' part, is the quantum mechanical job to explain how consciousness exists. It also covers a multitude of variables:

Some scientists will have the model of the mind very black and white, and extremely pragmatic. One of these view points is that all the action in the mind gives rise to consciousness, not a specific localization to any neuron function. Basically, its the hydrogen atoms and the electrons and the photons, and all the other particles whizzing about in the brain that causes cognitive phenomenon.

Spin-Mediated Consciousness

The spin-mediated consciousness theory is a theory that says spin - that intrinsic property of subatomic matter - carried by nucleons in neural membranes and other proteins are the linchpins between mind and brain. This theory was initially proposed by biophysicist Huping Hu and his counterpart Maoxin Wu. But what if the idea can be extended to more than simply spin of matter... what if the transferal of energy is intimately related?

Electromagnetic Theory of Consciousness

The electromagnetic theory of consciousness is a theory that states that the electromagnetic field generated by the electromagnetic materials of the brain (known for a long time, and measured by EEG's) is the actual carrier of conscious experience. We might find Biomagnetites and Photons being supreme carriers. This theory was initially proposed by scientists such as Jonjoe McFadden, Susan Pockett and Roy John. But what if this can be taken further? We know that isolated forces maybe a bit of an illusion. We have already linked electroweak, electrostrong, electromagnetism all together as simply different sides to a single force... So perhaps the different sides play different roles to give rise to the same goal... Consciousness? We have already stipulated the possible action of a universe choosing the initial conditions of the quantum physical laws so that we might exist. These are just two different theories... But they are many more questions to be asked and answered with hesitation. Here is a list of all the problems i know of...

1. Perception and Self-Reflection

2. Thoughts and Memory

3. Dream States

4. Hallucinations

5. Psychic Experience

6. The Subject-Object Paradox

7. The Binding Problem

8. Conscious Explanation of Neurological Functions and Coherence

9. Psychological Determinative Phenomena

10. Artificial Intelligence and Computation

11. The Collapse of Single Neural Calculations

12. Social Phenomena

13. The Spacetime Projection Phenomena

14. The 2-D Spacetime Phenomena Cast into the Three Dimensional Phenomena

15. Metaphysical Theory of Consciousness

I am sure there are more, but this covers the in's and out's of what needs to be conceptually grasped when we speak about the complications of consciousness. Indeed, if it was an easy task, we would have solved the problem a hundred years ago. I have a theory that consciousness, if it represents the world, and universe as a whole, then if we have an incomplete theory of consciousness, then so will our theory of the universe. In fact, a Grand Unification of QFT will be to have the observer included in this theory...

dumb fuck sci
lemme illustrate....

Christ on a stick. I thought the guy said his goodbye's already.

We gotta come up with a new policy: if anyone creates a goodbye thread, they get 24 hrs to post in that thread alone and then they're banned for 6 months.

It brings tears of joy to my eyes also! YEA!!!! GO FOR IT!!! :D

I like it.

I've... I've never read anything so beautiful! :worship:

You just came up with an excellent idea :thumbsup:

childish notions of revenge
vindictive attitudes

dont let the door hit you on the way out

bye? fine! BYE!

/ban

pathetic lil fucks
it is similar to the frivolous ban proposal episode
all ignore the real issue....

stop spamming

the tp is thus irrelevant
new rules are not required

mmm
skin and his fanboys
i shall take note

What are you gustav?

You write in this broken poetic structural style in a sort of riddle-like prose. What the hell is up with that?

It's pretty fucking cool IMHO.

what i am is up for grabs
i wait on you scientists to tell me
quit gabbing and get to work ;)

what i am is up for grabs
i wait on you scientists to tell me
quit gabbing and get to work ;)

Awesome!

Gustav is...some high pitched nosed girl

And draq is a bigotted little immature boy... Left mum and dads home yet>?

And draq is a bigotted little immature boy... Left mum and dads home yet>?

oh...so we were buddies...now you are bitchslapping me..heh? :rolleyes: is that how it is now? short lived emotions there...

Damn right. I AM a homosexual... did you forget the obvious bitch-slapping that obviously evaided you short memory span>?

If you were any friend, you would have had more respect.

mind your language, boy!

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/916/17665604ah6.gif

Damn right. I AM a homosexual... did you forget the obvious bitch-slapping that obviously evaided you short memory span>?

If you were any friend, you would have had more respect.

I don't lie, I tell the truth. You asked me how I felt and I told you I am against homosexuals. I do not advocate violence against them, thou. If we disagree on one issue of sexuality why can we not get along with other ideas? Science is vast and exists precisely for uniting people in thinking.

First... Wow... he's hot...

Draq:

You do lie when you say things like:

Children brought up in homosexual environments will turn out to be gay themselves.

Another lie you said, was to me one time. ''I like Reiku, even though he is gay,'' and yet three weeks later, you contradicted yourself by saying, ''I hate gays...?''

So is this really the truth? If it is in your eyes, then this ''buddhism'' you are so intimately investigating isn'y doing you enlightenment much good. A buddhist finds no biased formula in pure soul, mentality and general sense.

''I do not advocate violence against them, thou.''

There could be several reasons why you make such a remark/comment.

''If we disagree on one issue of sexuality why can we not get along with other ideas? ''
Becuase my sexuality is of no concern of you'rs. You live about 5000 miles away, and hardly know me. Then why express such narrow and fabricated solutions?

''Science is vast and exists precisely for uniting people in thinking.''

My goodness. The first bit of sense in all of this babble. Well done. Maybe there is hope for you yet???

My goodness. The first bit of sense in all of this babble. Well done. Maybe there is hope for you yet???

well than, lets not be hostile.

You started it. I will finish it.

No.

I am a scientist of psychophsyics.

I saw the film. It was very scary.

Scientists ponder why things work as they do . That's what gives rise to hypotheses, theories and experiments. You are making an unjustified assumption about how science works.

If you disagree, find me a few examples to the contrary.

In order to find out why perhaps it helps to know how first?

Newton Darwin Einstein Curie. How/why?

In order to find out why perhaps it helps to know how first?

Newton Darwin Einstein Curie. How/why?

Your post made a distinction between philosophers and scientists, The people mentioned above were SCIENTISTS. I said scientists think about things and that this gives rise to hypotheses, etc. Your answer supports the point I made. Thank you

Science - revealing how things work
Philosophy - pondering why they must work just so

I have found your post to save you the trouble of looking

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Anyway:

Scientists like to uncover how things work by observation and experiment.

Philosophers, on the other hand, tend to concentrate more on the whyfore with little if any experiment (trying hard to think examples of experimental philosophers) to back up their assertions.

Of course there may be some crossover between the two. However, I have sometimes observed a hmmm, friction, between philosophers and scientists. Empirical vs subjective and never the twain shall meet perhaps??

sniffy ponders..if myles deliberately misunderstanding sniffy...if yes i wonder why...sniffy not writing clearly enough...hmm...myles being awkward..sniffy being awkward....arrghhh!!!!
Anyway:

Scientists like to uncover how things work by observation and experiment.

Philosophers, on the other hand, tend to concentrate more on the whyfore with little if any experiment (trying hard to think examples of experimental philosophers) to back up their assertions.

Of course there may be some crossover between the two. However, I have sometimes observed a hmmm, friction, between philosophers and scientists. Empirical vs subjective and never the twain shall meet perhaps??

Philosophy is by and large just a waste of time and effort. It seldom produces anything of real value - it's just something that most of us enjoy doing from time to time.

Science, on the other hand, is mostly a drive to find things that ARE useful, not so much the theoretical bunch but the applied science groups.

sniffy ponders..if myles deliberately misunderstanding sniffy...if yes i wonder why...sniffy not writing clearly enough...hmm...myles being awkward..sniffy being awkward....arrghhh!!!!
Anyway:

Scientists like to uncover how things work by observation and experiment.

Philosophers, on the other hand, tend to concentrate more on the whyfore with little if any experiment (trying hard to think examples of experimental philosophers) to back up their assertions.

Of course there may be some crossover between the two. However, I have sometimes observed a hmmm, friction, between philosophers and scientists. Empirical vs subjective and never the twain shall meet perhaps??


You've probably been talking to too many metaphysicians. Serves you right. ha ha