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nicholas1M7
09-18-05, 10:56 PM
Yes, stoicism is the concept most descriptive to my way of life. Whereas, existentialism is a pathetic form of existence that tends to leave one with the undesirable condition of feeling isolated. It seems to me that at some point every normal person attempts stoicism to some extent but the majority fail. At times this "internal destruction" is mistaken as another typical self-destructive act.

Corruption is everywhere and in every individual to some extent. But it is those individuals who are most corrupt that we are defenseless against. And it is those very individuals that I have had, and may possibly still have, "much too close" relationships with.

I don't see how it is possible for the dead to be corrupted in any way. The only remote attachment to corruption that death has, that I can logically picture, is that it is a resultant defense mechanism (in the psychological sense). Of course death of any kind would be looked upon as undesirable or associated with evil. But this is spawned only from the ignorance that naturally comes with being alive. In a way one might even think of inner death as giving birth to a new self and hence a new life, whether this life is better or worse matters not to he/she who is already dead, obviously.

Stoicism according to this description is only a last resort sought after by those who seek an exit from the external decadence that is their existence caused by circumstances or people. batmanbegins.com


-N.

Prince_James
09-18-05, 10:59 PM
Nicholas:

When you refer to Stoicism, are you refering to the school of thought prevalent in ancient Greece and Rome? Or are you refering to the quality of being cold and distant from the sufferings of the flesh and indifferent to the worries and phantasies of the mind?

Quantum Quack
09-21-05, 07:10 PM
Nicholas:

When you refer to Stoicism, are you refering to the school of thought prevalent in ancient Greece and Rome? Or are you refering to the quality of being cold and distant from the sufferings of the flesh and indifferent to the worries and phantasies of the mind?
Maybe he is referring to a sort of courageous nhilism.

To go on, even though the odds of success are nominal. A sort of fatalisim.

Prince_James
09-21-05, 07:36 PM
Quantum Quack:

Possibly.

Quantum Quack
09-21-05, 08:07 PM
I suppose in a way we all practice stoicism. You may recall, Prince, discussions on Bushido and how the Samurai lead a life as if already dead. How death is inevitable so therefore we stoically live life to the fullest.

Although I am reasonably sure that Nicholas is referring to a more ....hmmmmm..."morbid" ......form of stoicism.....

In a depressed state living with death constantly in mind can provide some benefits to personal growth. If one survives long enough to see them.

The Samurai had developed a way of dealing with futility of the life / death cycle. Thus fulling their lives with purpose even though they recognised their lives as transient.
To me stoicism, relates to persons I have known who have faced terminal illnesses and lived as best they could whilst awaiting their final decline into coma and eventual death. A sort of courage in the face of adversity, an understanding that life is and always has been a bonus and a precious gift that can be taken away as suddenly as it is given.

Yes we are all practicing stoicism as a part of every day life.....IMO

Prince_James
09-21-05, 09:34 PM
Quantum Quack:

An interesting point of view and indeed can I see the potential fruits one could harvest from acting as such.