What in the world are you going to do for eternity with 15 virgins?

Once you take away their virginity, will they not turn against you.

You people are truly sick in the head.

What makes them any sicker than you?

They are made by God for sexual pleasure in Islam. I doubt they'd have a problem with giving up their virginity and then screwing you for all eternity.

now there's a thought: magical perpetual virgins. someone should get on that.

That's my guess, too, their hymens seal up again overnight, so you can have the great pleasure... of... well... that... doesn't seem so nice once you think about it. What's so great about virgins in the first place? And what do girls get in heaven?

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A man made heaven designed to lure away men who are filled with degenerate sexual lusts. Remember its not only the virgins its also the "lots of pretty boys" that are included in this perverse islamic heaven. ;)

Matthew 22
23 The same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, 24 saying: “Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. 25 Now there were with us seven brothers. The first died after he had married, and having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. 26 Likewise the second also, and the third, even to the seventh. 27 Last of all the woman died also. 28 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had her.”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.


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What in the world are you going to do for eternity with 15 virgins?

Once you take away their virginity, will they not turn against you.

You people are truly sick in the head.
I thought it was 72.
I guess it's enough to occupy thier time.

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Does not your holy book proclaim that God created us? WOuld not this include the sexual drive?

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Does not your holy book proclaim that God created us? WOuld not this include the sexual drive?

Of course. But it is another thing to glorify gang bangs. How carnal islam is ,that its reward is heaven is a gang bang, with hints of homosexual deviancy.

Oh i think that hapsburg is closer to the mark when it comes to the number dirty old muhammed put down in the koran. Maybe he was thinking of 72 nine year olds.

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God has no problem with Solomon, the man with 1,000 wives. Are you telling me he didn't likely have sex with several of them at once?

you aren't allowed to have pleasurable sensations in heaven. the afterlife is a place of moral restraint and conservatism.

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God has no problem with Solomon, the man with 1,000 wives. Are you telling me he didn't likely have sex with several of them at once?

It is your mind that see's Solomon having sex with more than one bride at the same time. You see what you want to see. And revel your mind to all.

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you aren't allowed to have pleasurable sensations in heaven. the afterlife is a place of moral restraint and conservatism.


No restraint will be required because those desires will not exist. As for pleasures I am sure there will be compensations. :)

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you aren't allowed to have pleasurable sensations in heaven. the afterlife is a place of moral restraint and conservatism.
Heaven sounds boring and fucking stupid, then.

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(that was irony, by the way.) doesn't it, though? but apparently, the omniarrogant god of Xianity has orchestrated it such that the only people in heaven are those whose lives were so mind-numbingly tedious that standing around reminding him how great he is doesn't seem like a bad idea.

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if the desires cease to exist in heaven, does this mean that the self ceases to exist? or free will?

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Considering human nature, and the very reason why Solomon had so many wives (it certainly wasn't for politics), it seems exceedingly likely that he had group sex on a regular basis. Moreover, since God seemingly had no qualm with Solomon's massive sexual drive, why would he not create some sort of sensual afterlife, too?

Only the flesh is tied to physical desires but the flesh is mortal. What is mortal must become immortal according to the bible so why try and second guess how it will be based on stricly mortal perceptions?
Heaven will have a central theme i.e. Love, 'unadulterated' love and this is what will meet every need you could think of.

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I guess there isn't enough virgins to go around on terra firma. Why do we assume they're all female?

virgin usually applies to females.

I'm sorry but if you have not experienced sexual intercourse you are a virgin, male or female. Hollywood just had a hit movie about a 40 year old male virgin. Imagine a male muslim suicide bomber getting to heaven only to find a bunch of virgin 'queer eyes for the straight guys' waiting for him.

Hello Dr Cello :)

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if the desires cease to exist in heaven, does this mean that the self ceases to exist? or free will?

Well self will not cease to exist if it does then we cease to exist. We will remain as separate entities.

But free will??? well i know from scriptures that we will change both physical and mind at the resurrection. I do not know the type of free will this change will allow.

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you might want to look into that sort of thing. it's sort of a huge point in theodicy.

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Considering human nature, and the very reason why Solomon had so many wives (it certainly wasn't for politics), it seems exceedingly likely that he had group sex on a regular basis. Moreover, since God seemingly had no qualm with Solomon's massive sexual drive, why would he not create some sort of sensual afterlife, too?


1 Kings 3
1 Now Solomon made a treaty with Pharaoh king of Egypt, and married Pharaoh’s daughter; then he brought her to the City of David until he had finished building his own house, and the house of the LORD, and the wall all around Jerusalem

Of course Solomon married for political reasons he took many foreign wives from the kingdoms around Israel for political purpose.

But as for Gods relationship with Solomon in the end it was not good Solomon’s foreign wives had a detrimental affect on his relationship and faith in God.

1 Kings 11
1 But King Solomon loved many foreign women, as well as the daughter of Pharaoh: women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites— 2 from the nations of whom the LORD had said to the children of Israel, “You shall not intermarry with them, nor they with you. Surely they will turn away your hearts after their gods.” Solomon clung to these in love. 3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives turned away his heart. 4 For it was so, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned his heart after other gods; and his heart was not loyal to the LORD his God, as was the heart of his father David. 5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. 6 Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and did not fully follow the LORD, as did his father David. 7 Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab, on the hill that is east of Jerusalem, and for Molech the abomination of the people of Ammon. 8 And he did likewise for all his foreign wives, who burned incense and sacrificed to their gods.


Bad things happen when you let woman go to your head, LOL Poor Solomon the wisest man the world has ever seen but in the end his wisdom did not prevent his fall.


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A thousand different wives for political reasons? Exceedingly unlikely. Considering there would not -be- a thousand different kings anywhere near him to marry the daughters of.

you might want to look into that sort of thing. it's sort of a huge point in theodicy.

Oh i know it is a huge thing in "New Age" thinking. About everything being one or becoming one collective conscience and all that stuff, we all being part of "God" some kind of energy source. There is plenty of that kind of ummmm excrement doing the rounds these days. It’s a central part of end times deception. Mixing darkness with light.

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...theodicy is not, in fact, new age thinking. it is in fact very much old. i recommend you go look up terms before you start responding and talking about philosophies i don't subscribe to.

New Age thinking is just old babylonian paganism brushed up in new psycho babble. But it the end, just like the tower of Babel it will be destroyed. I know i saw the tower being destroyed in a dream, ;)


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for the love of all that is holy, go look up theodicy before you make yourself look like a complete idiot.

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Yes. Please spare us what is woefully complete ignorance on the subject. Here's an article for you on the matter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy

You also realize that Babylon and the Tower of Babel were different, yes? And that dreams are no more reliable information than anything else? 'Lest, of course, you are willing to claim I know the ins and outs of having sexual relations with Winona Ryder.

Thanks for the link prince. But

in a work entitled Essais de Théodicée sur la bonté de Dieu, la liberté de l'homme et l'origine du mal. The purpose of the essay was to show that the evil in the world does not conflict with the goodness of God, that, indeed, notwithstanding its many evils, the world is the best of all possible worlds

What a load of excrement. More babble from deluded people. Thank God i am ignorant of such garbage.

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In what manner is this a "load of excrement"? How is this "garbage"? What offends you about it?

Once you take away their virginity, will they not turn against you.

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is that what happened to you?

What is this attraction for virgins? Experience is overwhelmingly more satisfying.

virgins went for massive sums of money in Victorian England because STD's were so rampant. the only way to guarantee that your woman wasn't diseased was to get a virgin.

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your ignorance is amusing like television. please continue to rant about how theodicy is excrement.

What is this attraction for virgins? Experience is overwhelmingly more satisfying.

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'Course the virgins might be sheep!......:D

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In what manner is this a "load of excrement"? How is this "garbage"? What offends you about it?

So you believe this world is the best of all possible worlds? I feel sorry for you if you do.

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so let me get this straight. you believe that defenses against the problem of evil are invalid, excrement, and a waste of time, because this world is not the best possible world?

essentially, that because one of the many theodicies that have come up in the past, you disagree with, they are all a load of shit? you are perhaps the single most pathetic individual i have ever encountered.

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My reply is as Dr. Cello's. Do you not realize that theodicy is a -field- of theories, with many different ones?

Theories of men.

"Theodicy, therefore, may be defined as an attempt to explain the nature of God through the exercise of reason alone."

Yep mans reason = excrement.

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all theories are theories of men. including the theory that man-made theories are corrupt and not worth adhering to.

but let's be logical. here is the most commonly phrased form of the problem of evil:
1. natural and human evils exist.
2. god is an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being
3. natural and human evil are incompatible with the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being.
4. therefore, god does not exist.

you, being a religious type (however unintelligent), undoubtedly disagree with this proof. why? reconciling the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being with the existence of evil, is called theodicy.

but let's be logical. here is the most commonly phrased form of the problem of evil:
1. natural and human evils exist.
2. god is an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being
3. natural and human evil are incompatible with the existence of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent being.
4. therefore, god does not exist

Thanks for the example of pure excrement.

Psalm 94
10 He who instructs the nations, shall He not correct,
He who teaches man knowledge?
11 The LORD knows the thoughts of man,
That they are futile.
12 Blessed is the man whom You instruct, O LORD,
And teach out of Your law,

You have got no chance with human logic. If you ever become wise enough to understand that then you will be blessed.

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congratulations! you have just performed a theodicy. one of the worst ever, but a theodicy nonetheless.

EDIT: and before i forget, i should point out that the bible is not persuasive in the least. please give legitimate reasons for me to believe that man's logic is flawed. kthxbye

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If human reason is excrement, and God created man in his image, are you not blasphemying against him? In fact, you may well be saying -God's- reasoning is excrement, as we were made to be as he.

Moreover, do you assert that God is good?

congratulations! you have just performed a theodicy. one of the worst ever, but a theodicy nonetheless.

EDIT: and before i forget, i should point out that the bible is not persuasive in the least. please give legitimate reasons for me to believe that man's logic is flawed. kthxbye

Just look at history :rolleyes: And look around the world today. Can you see what is in front of your eyes or are you so blinded by pride?

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If human reason is excrement, and God created man in his image, are you not blasphemying against him?

No i am agreeing with God who cast man out of the garden of eden and provided His Son to cover our faultiness



In fact, you may well be saying -God's- reasoning is excrement, as we were made to be as he.

That line of thinking is the same line of thinking that will see satan in torment in the lake of fire for ever and ever. satan made the same claim. That he was the equal of God. So you join in that same thinking, that you where made as God. That James is blasphemy of the highest order, if you believe that then you believe in the deception of satan in the garden.



Moreover, do you assert that God is good?

I assert that God is Just and the Justifier of those that believe Him. He is perfect.

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i've looked at history. history has produced wonderful things, like Plato, Aristotle, Socrates. it has produced beautiful things, great philosophers and intellects. and thanks to these and others, it has become possible to look at the world and see that it works in a reliable fashion, and that if we study it we can learn more things about it. it has also become possible to test the validity of theories based on what we already know. we have been able to refine mathematics, we have discovered more and more about how the universe works. advances have been made in medical science, in communications, in transit technology--all of this because of logic.

indeed, you would not be able to sit here on an anonymous internet forum and make a complete ass out of yourself were it not for the fact that logic is indeed something that man can accomplish on his own, and learn from, and understand. unfortunately, it requires a mind and the willingness to use it, and you have neither. you are woefully handicapped in this beautifully logical world of ours.

:rolleyes: Yes your a sadly deluded unfortunate. Non of those "thinkers" will save this world from the destruction both coming and now underway.

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No i am agreeing with God who cast man out of the garden of eden and provided His Son to cover our faultyness.

Faultyness in a creation of God.


That line of thinking is the same line of thinking that will see satan in torment in the lake of fire for ever and ever. satan made the same claim. That he was the equal of God. So you join in that same thinking, that you where made as God. That James is blasphemy of the highest order, if you believe that then you believe in the deception of satan in the garden.

So you deny we were made in God's image?

I assert that God is Just and the Justifier of those that believe Him. He is perfect.

In what manner is he "just"?

Needless to say, you may once again take Dr. Cello's response as my own, too. I agree fully with his words.

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Faultyness in a creation of God.

James James James your statement is useless and a statement without any backing is pathetic.

Man decided to embrace satans trap because men suffered from the same pride that satan has.




So you deny we were made in God's image?

James read my statement above.



In what manner is he "just"?

He helps the meek but resists the proud :) Oh there are so many things



Needless to say, you may once again take Dr. Cello's response as my own, too. I agree fully with his words.

Well at least Dr Cello can put a few thoughts together in points and right a paragraph of logic trying to back it up. He is a prideful, dismissive and self centered but at least he is an articulate snob.

He is not in the peanut gallery saying yeah what he said, yeah what he said. :rolleyes:

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:rolleyes: Yes your a sadly deluded unfortunate. Non of those "thinkers" will save this world from the destruction both coming and now underway.


i'm not seeing any destruction. funny, that.

but here's the really great thing. faulty logic can be refuted, and if you're guided by mystical religious hoodoo then you should be able to refute my logic with more than a red herring argument laced with argumentum ad hominem (logic is invalid because the world is being destroyed? it does not follow. and whether or not i am deluded is irrelevant. if i am, you should have something valid to say to demonstrate this.)

amazing how, even guided by the holy spirit, you still can do nothing more than insult and produce irrelevant conclusions when faced with solid facts and evidence.

for instance: 'faultiness in a creation of God.' Satan is also a creation of God, and you clearly are treating pride as a fault. God created something proud. he then proceeded to create something else which was capable of falling to that pride. is this not a fault? an all-powerful being has the ability to create something which will not rebel against its creator, and rebelling against its creator is quite clearly a flaw. again: please provide logic to back your statements.

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How 'bout NO, scotty...why don't you get with the program, and live in the MODERN WORLD.
The year is 2005, not 1005.
Fucktard...

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James James James your statement is useless and a statement without any backing is pathetic.

Man decided to embrace satans trap because men suffered from the same pride that satan has.

Pride engrained in them by God. Or do you doubt that God was the creator of their pride?

He helps the meek but resists the proud Oh there are so many things

And what makes this just?

Well at least Dr Cello can put a few thoughts together in points and right a paragraph of logic trying to back it up. He is a prideful, dismissive and self centered but at least he is an articulate snob.

He is not in the peanut gallery saying yeah what he said, yeah what he said.

Oooh. Bitey. What happened to turning the other cheek?

How 'bout NO, scotty...why don't you get with the program, and live in the MODERN WORLD.
The year is 2005, not 1005.
Fucktard...

Sorry i don't want to be involved in a repeat Rome and play Caligula like the old days. I know what happened to old Rome and the same thing will happen to the repeat version. Your world is not so "Modern" as you think.

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Oooh. Bitey. What happened to turning the other cheek?

Well you are right and apologize for that. I am thankful i have the atoning blood of Jesus to cover me when i fall down like that. Its great to be forgiven. :)

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even better, is not to be damned in the first place.

Sorry i don't want to be involved in a repeat Rome and play Caligula like the old days. I know what happened to old Rome and the same thing will happen to the repeat version. Your world is not so "Modern" as you think.

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old Rome fell because of the corrupting influence of Christians. Constantine the Great set about a series of events which ultimately culminated in the downfall of the Roman Empire. however, you're kidding yourself if you think America, or the world at large, is similar to Rome in any real, practical way.