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PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 11:27 AM I am the Princess Of Funk.
Music is my passion.
Sometimes it's the only thing I think I really care about.
It never lets you down and can pick you up in your darkest hours.
If it has a meaning then it's all good, thats why I can't stand the manufactured pop crap that so many people (kids and teeneyboppers) call music.
IT IS NOT MUSIC in my opinion anyway.
It has been made purely to make money. It has no heart felt meaning and money is the only thing that drives it.
People of the world should rebel against it and never buy it again.
IT IS CRAP!
If you want to hear some proper music go and buy the new MUSE album or something alternative like that.
I beg you, do yourself some justice and stop torturing your ears.
Rock on...
Does anyone else feel strongly about anything like this?
Originally posted by PrincessOfFunk
I am the Princess Of Funk.
Music is my passion.
Sometimes it's the only thing I think I really care about.
It never lets you down and can pick you up in your darkest hours.
If it has a meaning then it's all good, thats why I can't stand the manufactured pop crap that so many people (kids and teeneyboppers) call music.
IT IS NOT MUSIC in my opinion anyway.
It has been made purely to make money. It has no heart felt meaning and money is the only thing that drives it.
People of the world should rebel against it and never buy it again.
IT IS CRAP!
If you want to hear some proper music go and buy the new MUSE album or something alternative like that.
I beg you, do yourself some justice and stop torturing your ears.
Rock on...
Does anyone else feel strongly about anything like this? Nope. Not me, anyway. Remember: crappy, manufactured pop bands are aimed at seven-year-olds and vacuum-filled idiots. Not you. You'd be as well off complaining that you don't like Charles Trenet because he hasn't got the decency to sing in English.
PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 11:35 AM Indeed it is aimed at 7 year olds, but I am entitled to feel resent towards the crap when it is played in every shop I go in, on every tv show I watch and when it polutes the minds of the younger members of my family
Originally posted by PrincessOfFunk
Indeed it is aimed at 7 year olds, but I am entitled to feel resent towards the crap when it is played in every shop I go in, on every tv show I watch and when it polutes the minds of the younger members of my family Lighten up. It doesn't pollute anybody; I don't expect any seven-year-old to fully appreciate Led Zeppelin, Mozart or the Divine Comedy. Steps are no more inane than your average nursery rhyme, and I don't know anyone who's been polluted by Humpty Dumpty. As for the shops: no-one's forcing them. The fact that they're listening means that either they or most or their customers like it. If you're going to spend your life railing against shit taste, you're not going to get a lot else done.
PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 11:51 AM Thank you very much for your advice but I am light - very light indeed.
Goddamn.
I'm thinking perhaps it would be better if I never open my mouth again.
Why does no one ever agree with what I have to say?
Do I really talk that much crap?
RARG!
Like I said before - IN MY OPINION - pop music is shit. It should be rejected by everyone in sociaty. It should be no more.
I am also thinking that you are partial to a bit of pop music?!?
Is this why you have such strong opinions on it too? Just a thought....
Originally posted by PrincessOfFunk
I am also thinking that you are partial to a bit of pop music?!?
Is this why you have such strong opinions on it too? Just a thought.... Actually, I think it's a fucking abomination. I just happen to believe that others are entitled to differ, and given that it's not aimed at me anyway, it doesn't matter what I think. Unless someone asks for an opinion.
PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 12:02 PM Why are you arguing with me here?
In YOUR opinion, you don't mind if people like pop music.
In MY opinion, I hate the crap, like really REALLY hate it.
They are our two DIFFERENT opinions.
So, why are you arguing with me?
Each to his own and all that......
Originally posted by PrincessOfFunk
So, why are you arguing with me?
Each to his own and all that...... I'm not arguing about the music. I'm arguing about the fact that neither you nor I have the right to tell anyone what they should consider 'good'.
PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 12:12 PM I never once said they shouldn't listen to it.
How many more times could I possibly say - IN MY OPINION...
Each one to there own - as I said before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rock on.....
Originally posted by PrincessOfFunk
I never once said they shouldn't listen to it.
How many more times could I possibly say - IN MY OPINION...
Each one to there own - as I said before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rock on..... From your first post,the one I've been arguing against: "People of the world should rebel against it and never buy it again. IT IS CRAP!" And the new Muse album isn't nearly as good as the first.
PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 12:19 PM If you read my post properly - above that I said - IN MY OPINION. I really can't say that any more
IN MY OPINION
IN MY OPINION
ETC
Also, Origin of Symmetry is a blinding album - not worse than Showbiz - just different.
But in your post, you stated that OFS was worse than SHOWBIZ - tut tut! People have their own minds you know - EACH ONE TO THEIR OWN!
Originally posted by PrincessOfFunk
If you read my post properly - above that I said - IN MY OPINION. I really can't say that any more
IN MY OPINION
IN MY OPINION
ETC
Also, Origin of Symmetry is a blinding album - not worse than Showbiz - just different.
But in your post, you stated that OFS was worse than SHOWBIZ - tut tut! People have their own minds you know - EACH ONE TO THEIR OWN!
What's the difference between "People should do what I say" and "In my opinion people should do what I say"? I don't know anyone who'd read the former to read anything but the latter.
PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 12:48 PM SIGH!
pragmathen 07-12-01, 03:21 PM Welcome to Sciforums, PrincessOfFunk!
I'm wondering what you would consider pop music and what you would consider musical art?
For me, I enjoy heavy guitar strumming and riffs, with drums thrown in and occasional enigmatic lyrics. TOOL and Metallica come to mind (although I wouldn't really classify their lyrics as mysterious).
I also enjoy melodious tunes and quite rambunctious lyrics and beats, as is the case with Musicals. RENT, Jekyll & Hyde, Cats to name a few.
And then there's the growing up side of me that likes the Neil Diamond, Enya, and the occasional Yanni.
And who could forget the political strife side with Rage Against the Machine? And the sublime Radiohead?
Or the classical side of Orff's <i>Carmina Burana</i>, or the sheer genius of Rachmaninoff?
Or the punk-ass side of me with Korn? The silly side with They Might Be Giants? The blues side with Eric Clapton?
Fortunately, I work at a job where I can listen to any one of these at any given time (basically) and so, according to my tastes at that particular time, I have to option to listen to whatever.
What makes music a piece of crap is relative, of course, to the listener. One of my coworkers has at least 300 USD worth of Jazz CD's, which I can't bring myself to get into just yet. The community I'm in loves Country Music, but it's still hard for me to enjoy it consistently. Another coworker loves Ben Harper and Aimee Mann and the Beatles, but it's not quite my cup of tea.
The point is that we all have music tastes. And, aside from sharing some of mine, I'd be interested to know what everyone listens to. For that's the main way of branching out into other forms of music. I'd be more inclined to listen to someone else's music if they gave me a reason why they like to listen to it.
As to me, all those different kinds of music speak to me at a different level. To throw one away because it's passe or too hard or too soft seems ridiculous to me. For, sometime, I'll want to listen to it, you know.
Well, that's my thoughts.
thanks!
prag
PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 03:28 PM Well, what I would consider to be good music would be:
MUSE
RADIOHEAD
THE BEATLES
TOOL
LIT
R.A.T.M
BLINK 182
KORN
THE OFFSPRING
BLUR
TRAVIS
ALANIS MORISSETTE
etc
Need I go on? Alternative stuff apeals to me mostly. Stuff with meaning as I said before.
Rock on....
PrincessOfFunk 07-12-01, 08:00 PM I missed a band of my list -
How could I have forgotten the INCREDIBLE - Alien Ant Farm? Now they do actually rock!!
Keep Rocking.....
I find that as I get older my tastes have stabilized.
Once I was a teeniebopper, listening to bubblegum and happy with it (mindless though it was) and an occasional tune still does not offend. Though I would not care for a steady diet of such now.
Being of a different school than the generation now, I find that my tastes are somewhat strange by their standards and theirs to mine. Each to his own. I have no issue with that.
I can endure a short time of country music, though my heart lies elxe where.
But I really enjoy such as Clapton, Supertamp, Eagles, Walsh, and the like. Kinda old school for now a days but still thats cool. I dig out the reels put them and enjoy and I suspect others enjoy theirs every bit as much. Nay, I know they do.
Music answers and resonates within the soul. It satifies that which is hard to put to words. Even though the tastes vary from group to group it is amazing that it still does the same.
<h1><u><i>BAROQUE MUSIC RULES !!!</h1>
<h2>LONG LIVE BAROQUE MUSIC !!!</u></i></h2>
~Caleb
What I've found most interesting about this thread is that with a name PrincessOfFunk that the music listed is completely devoid of funk. Anyway I have no problem with pop music, we all in our younger days listened to shit. I can't believe how bad my music taste was back in the day. Pop music is appropriate for its audience. It is a hell of a lot better for kids to be listening to pop music as opposed to more explicit shit like Eminem. Not that I have a problem with explicit lyrics, just a problem with it hitting the wrong audience.
As far as music goes I've over time become a mainly a jazz fan. Also listen to funk and hip-hop, mostly jazzy hip-hop that is a natural progression from and a form of jazz. In my opinion as far as modern music goes the best out there is jazz-funk bands like Medeski, Martin and Wood, Groove Collective, Greyboy Allstars (including any of the solo work of the members), and Charlie Hunter. Of course there is also the highly neglected guitar-organ-drum trio boogaloo from guys like Grant Green, Jimmy Smith, and John Patton.
The thing too me that makes a musician truely great is the ability to improvise and play live. Too create a live show that is not just duplicating what was done in the studio but interpreting their own music and the music of others.
PrincessOfFunk 07-15-01, 08:45 AM The name 'ThePrincessOfFunk' is a private joke between me and my friends.
You could call it a kind of irony if you like.:p
Originally posted by PrincessOfFunk
Well, what I would consider to be good music would be:
MUSE
RADIOHEAD
THE BEATLES
TOOL
LIT
R.A.T.M
BLINK 182
KORN
THE OFFSPRING
BLUR
TRAVIS
ALANIS MORISSETTE
etc
Need I go on? Alternative stuff apeals to me mostly. Stuff with meaning as I said before.
Rock on....
Oh my, IMO << see that POF, this is ALL the same kind of crap, except the target audience is older..music made to make money, nothing else. (most of it anyways)
I'm not sayin I don't like any of it either...just that I am aware of it's purpose. I realize I have been sucked into the media music machine, and actually like some of it. I don't at all think any of it has a meaning...my gosh lol..
The purpose of Alanis Morissette (like 5 years ago now, when she was actually a "pop" star) was to seel cds to young girls/middle aged women. And any infered meaning was there for that purpose, to lure the target audience in.
the same goes for almost all of what you have listed here. (different target audiences of course)
Alternative stuff apeals to me mostly. Stuff with meaning as I said before.
Alternative (when that genre was created a few years back) WAS the pop music of the day..it's what people were rallying against, much as you are now, against todays incarnations.
And I do agree, they should have banned most of the Korn, Blink 182, Alanis Morissette, The Offspring back then...whew.....I would have been one happy camper.
I just looks to me like you were just as sucked in by the music machine as anyone is today, its just different bands, and a different time frame.
oh and mpfunk, improvisational music IS music, thats what music is all about, creating, not pakaging the same song the same way everytime....nice to see someone with a similar view.
glaucon 07-15-01, 02:35 PM Hmmm..
I too feel 'strongly' about this topic, but I think it's important never to take something so seriously that you end up needing medication.
I agree, subjectively, with the Princess' sentiment but remember we're talking aesthetics here and in the realm of aesthetics, the eye of the beholder reigns supreme.
To date, no-one has formulated a logically consistent argument detailing an a priori foundation of beauty. Some would argue that Spinoza did but I disagree.
Due to the fact that we're talking about taste and valuation here, you're always going to find that there is 'crap' out there. Furthermore, it's likely that what you find 'good' and 'artful' today will one day be 'crap' to you.
I find most of contemporary 'alt' music to be quite mechanical and unoriginal; crap one might say. Nevertheless, some of it still appeals to me. Stop confusing art and taste. For example, you claim Offspring to be artfully good. I hate to tell you this but artfully speaking, they're nothing but a riffing rip-off of Stiff Little Fingers. But they can still appeal to you.......
The Art of music has been around much longer than you.
Your tastes have developed over time and were built upon numerous factors.
Both of these are relevant to your taste in music, but remember to keep the two concepts apart.
You'll be much happier.
The Police rule
IMO
;)
The Police rule
is that a threat? lol
PrincessOfFunk 07-15-01, 05:56 PM Yes I totally agree with what you said ( I can't be bothered to argue at all anymore!)
I have been sucked in, but at least what I listen to is actually good music!:p :p :p :p
Just a list of cool music for now; I'll offer deeper thoughts later ....
* Floater (http://www.floatermusic.com) ... my current absolute favorite band.
* Queens of the Stone Age (members of Kyuss, Screaming Trees, and others) ... super-heavy
* Wellwater Conspiracy: The other night, for ten minutes, I saw three powerful 90's bands represented: Monster Magnet (John McBain, who played on Spine of God, then the heaviest album I'd heard; Soundgarden (Matt Cameron, Ben Shepard--the latter also played in Hater with McBain); and Pearl Jam (Eddie Vedder, who is a recent addition to the lineup, who sings on the newest album, and whose status in the band is, as yet, unconfirmed.)
* Mudhoney (perhaps the best punk band alive)
* Melvins I can't describe how heavy this groove is.
* Radiohead I finally got to see live; the Gorge show was amazing.
* Brian Wilson: the best pop musician ever still can knock 'em out. I'm informed that the Gorge performance of Heroes & Villains is reportedly the first time ever that Mr Wilson has performed this song live.
* Boiled in Lead: A personal favorite of mine, from Minneapolis. For those who know the origin of my user name, BiL has significant connections with the Tiassa's author, including former bands, songwriting credits, and even an Lp to one of Mr Brust's books, The Gypsy, written with Megan Lindholm.
* Tanita Tikaram: Perhaps the most consistently mellow among my album collection, there's not much to be said for Ms Tikaram, except that pop music has some work to do to catch up.
* Twisted Sister/Widowmaker ... Dee Snider: Laugh if you will, but if you cut away the confetti, shoulder pads, and bad hair and makeup, there's a tremendous degree of rock and roll songwriting present. One can slow these songs down and bang them out acoustically and still have a respectable set: the songs work in various contexts, and that flexibility is a key to their success.
* King Diamond: Again, chuckle all you want, but this guy got me through high school while the rest of my schoolmates were drooling over Axl Rose and the tight-pantalooned dude in Def Leppard.
* The Defunct List: Pearl Jam, Mother Love Bone, Screaming Trees, Nirvana, Soundgarden, The Seeds, Styx (let's not mention Edge of the Century, please?), The Beach Boys (Mike Love tour notwithstanding), Helloween, Anthrax (Belladonna chapter 1--through Killer Bees), Savatage, The Pink Floyd, Sisters of Mercy
* The honorable mentions: KISS (that should be apparent), AC/DC (again, apparent), Paul Simon, Peter Gabriel, Yungchen Lhamo, Mari Boine Pierson, Flash Girls, Phat City Smokehouse, Elton John, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Roger Waters, David Gilmour, Tommy Shaw, Band of Susans, Martha and the Muffins, Ramones ... at this point the list goes on.
* Classical composers? Rachmaninoff, Mozart ... I'm developing a taste for Mahler, but I don't devote a whole lot of time and effort to collecting classical music.
* Jazz? One of the difficulties of naming jazz musicians is that the only ones I know well are the ones I know. I'm not huge into national jazz acts, but rather the local ones. Yvonne Cannon is a heck of a vocalist from Seattle, and Emmanuel Lewis was a great standards combo. Rockin' Teenage Combo is our foremost experimental jazz team up here, partially in limbo as of a few months ago, between drummers.
In the end, it's all music. I used to be a full-blown metalhead, but the contrived spandex image eventually got to me as much as it did everyone else. As a member of that heavy metal age, let me officially apologize to all for the Onyx/Biohazard single, and the resulting movement that has eventually watered down to present Kid Rock as quality musicianship. Contrived is also my objection to the commercialization of format music; there is little, in principle, different 'twixt blues and country, except that one is a true expression and the other a commercial consideration. Country rings hollow to me, and contrivance is often a factor in whether I can stomach music or not. If your album blows because you missed while trying to pioneer an idea, fine; we all learn from hideous mistakes. But if your album blows because you think it sounds like it'll sell a million copies, then save us all the trouble and get a CPA.
I'll give the deeper considerations more thought; I haven't come up with anything so far to succinctly summarize my stance on the pop culture.
thanx,
Tiassa :cool:
thecurly1 07-17-01, 03:27 PM I partially agree with your post that all pop music is shit. Then again I don't. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK. People treat music and music genres like their religions. Now if you rebel against pop, then it makes you a more devoted rock fan, which helps them sell records. (Vicious cycle).
If it fulfills your emotional need at the time, weather that be happiness (poppy dance music) or anger (hard rock/metal) than that's fine. Music should be taken for what it is, a simple release of emotions.
The only problem I have is when artists or bands have been CREATED by record labels to make money. If they have been found and have genuine talent than fine. I don't think theres anything massively wrong with making money, unless it comes at the sacrifice of artistic expression. Relax everyone music should be enjoyed, if you don't like, don't listen, that simple.
P.S. I was listening to the Beatles' "Yesterday", while typing this line.
Rambler 07-19-01, 04:23 AM Tiassa,
Glad someone mentioned the sisters of mercy....
Ever had a chance to hear "the mission"???? ..IMHO -- cool band
As far as pop music goes......musicians need to make money too...these days everything's a business and not all art needs to be "everlasting".... let's face it people if it's so bad why is it so popular?? and let's not forget if you don't like it turn off the sound and just watch young britney shakin' her booty (there's good in everything :) ) it works for me :D
thecurly1 07-19-01, 05:01 PM Good reply Rambler, good reply:D :D
good music is anything you appreciate. For example, I like Bjork. but I also like more mainstream music. Yes, bands like Nsync and singers like christina aquilera are crap at the moment' it is so very obvious in the fact that they sound bad. However, good mature pop music like Celine Dion and such, has a meaning, because of the person that sings it and how they make it relate to themselves. If you're an honest music with an evident talent, not only good looks, you are not crap, but just a person singing what you want to sing. Most singers are doing that, in their own way.
I'm glad to see Tool finally mentioned in a music forum when talking about it as an art form.
In my opinion Tool are the only band around at the moment who do it totally for there love of music as an art form.
They even went through 2 or more years of legal proceedings to prevent the record company from tarnishing there sound.
My hat goes of to you Princess, I don't care if its okay to make pop cause it sells and little kids love it. Music is an ART form, it shouldn't be made into a commodity, but unfortunatley the worlds full of apathetic people who won't do shit to prevent this pollution.
Hello Neb from Oz. Welcome to Sciforums. One of the truely unique things about music is that it appeals to everyone and everyone's tastes are different. So what is bubblegum and commerical manfactured music (The Monkeys comes first to mind) is one persons gotta have and anothers can't stand. One thing about it, no matter what your loves and hates, as you grow older you're tastes change. You become more discriminating. That coupled with your life experiences influnances what you like. So because you or I can not stand something doesn't mean that there is not room or a place for it.
Yeah I know,but I've lost all respect for the music industry for corrupting bands. eg:Limp Bizkits first album 3 dollar bill was raw and heavy, it sounded unique to them, now there more commercialised than a Big Mac and there music has suffered,they r bland and unoriginal now, its so sad.
Creed, my god, hasn't the record company and fans of these plagerisers realised that they sound exactly like Pearl Jam on there albums 10 an vs but with religous overtones.
Rentonboyo 03-16-04, 04:33 AM what i protest against isnt pop, its unorigionality - i agree with neb, i think that the biggest problem assosciated with the commercialization of music isn't that its not 'good' but alot of it is taken, made more 'acceptable' and profit making and then released, rather than the pure expression through whichever genre someone might like. and princess, the offspring? please - they are the epitome of a sellout band, the kings of trading their art for the dollar sign. this is why im into bands like radiohead, who dont change their music for anyone but themselves, and stop trying to appeal to the mass market of 'fans' any particular band has created. fans follow, musicians lead, not the other way around. oh, and mpfunk, im gonna 'join the bandwagon' so to speak and agree with you that improvisational music is music in its purest form...
cosmictraveler 03-16-04, 08:58 AM I also think some of the "music" being made today, as well as befor, is garbage. My ears shudder when rap, grundge, hip hop, punk, death metal and a few other types or styles are being played somewhere I pass by. I enjoy good classic rock and roll , classical,jazz,new age,some funk, rythem and blues,blues,Irish music, Arabic music,Chinese music, Japanese ,Tuva throat singers, country, bluegrass, chamber music, some operas, some heavy metal, and a few others. That shows I try to enjoy many different types of what I like to call "good" music to me. There are those who won't listen to half of the types of music I listen to and that is their right not to do so. I just really dislike all this crappy music being blasted away on boom boxes or 5000 watt steros inside cars that I have to drive near. Please turn that stuff down so I can enjoy my music inside my car without being drowned out by other crap that they play.
tablariddim 03-16-04, 09:40 AM Anything POP, is bound to appeal to the lowest common denominator, therefore, anything truly POP will only appeal to you at times that you are moving through levels of ignorance into enlightenment (culturally speaking) and eventually, as you leave ignorance well behind, POP becomes meaningless POOP (designed for people with shit for brains) and it shouldn't bother you.
Young people listen to pop because its happy and easy listening and set a good mood, they dont want to listen to musik to "analyze" it.
Now why people like rock i dont understand, to me it has no beat or rythm, the singing sucks, and it feels empty, but thats just me.
tablariddim 03-16-04, 12:56 PM Actually, I take back most of what I said before, because at the end of the day it's quality that counts and there's good and bad quality in all forms of music and art culture, as there is in everything else. I guess it's easier to pick on POP music, because that is what is mainly promoted by the mass enterntainment media and is therefore in the frontline.
pop was created for that large group of people called "the masses"
mindless people who would buy the new "Now Thats What I Call Music Vol. 25"
without even glancing at the track listing.
forget this genre, it is pure money driving it, as Princess mentioned.
7 yr old listening to 50 cent rap about guns, ghettos, and clubs- while 12 yr olds even got record deals themselves rapping about pimping women??
hahaha it makes me laugh, and you should laugh too Princess, instead of become angry. yes its sad, but this is minor when compared to situations that yield far more concrete and long-lasting effects~
music was created from the soul, and it reaches its specific listeners with its message. all genres are like channels, with everyone tuning into the one they like.
furthermore, music encapsulates energy within it, from the energy from the person who composed the beat to the energy in the vocals of the song (if it has words)
this energy is transferred, relaying the messages and feelings to those who fancy the music.
music has purpose, and it reaches who it is supposed to-
that is why it may seem that the songs lyrics are talking directly to you, or it may seem the song was made specifically for you, because its message is meant for you.
the world works in mysterious ways, music is one of them.
and this is where i can see your anger towards pop Princess. but realize that there are millions of people out there who are, for lack of a better word, simpletons. they dont have the time or never had the chance (this would be the young children) to develop a taste in music, therefore they easily accept Pop music - since it is what is mostly shown on TV and heard on the Radio, which is what they are exposed to more of the time.
so, we must accept Pop Music much like we should accept people of other religions. it is all relevant to the person themself.
Ignoring Pop music would probably be the best way to accept it ;)
keep on rockin, your bands are good, and although i am inclined to Trance and House music, i still listen to Rock, Rap (the REAL Rap, underground Hip Hop) a few classics and even some classical. And if a POP song comes out that i kind of like, ill even get that one too! I listen to alot of different stuff, i wonder if theres other people who do the same?
i mean , i listen to all these genres:
(in order of intensity)
- Trance
- House
- Acid
- Techno
- Ambient
- 80's
- Hip Hop/Rap
- Rock
- 70's
- Classical
I mean i have over 1,200 songs just on my PC alone, and they range from Lime in the Cocanut, Son of a Preacherman, to Sleepwalk- to Idioteque - to Paint it Black (rock version) to ambient sounds of Aphex Twin. But my CD library is almost all Trance and Rave music- maybe because ive lost all of my older RAP cds, when i used to listen to rap bout 8 years ago.
as you can see i am a music buff- its because music is energy!!
well said zonabi, add a few of cosmictraveler genres, remove some of yours, and it pictures my musik taste quite well.
Actualy i dont realy care what genre or who made the musik, if i like it i get it
music is energy
austere 03-18-04, 01:02 AM In my opinion Tool are the only band around at the moment who do it totally for there love of music as an art form.
You're missing a lot then.
and PofFunk... I'm pretty sure all of the bands you listed are on major labels- meaning: you're fueling the destruction. Those bands you listed are all pretty fucking terrible in my opinion- except Radiohead: there is definate depth to their music.
I guess this is Sciforums after all.. sci.
you like
MUSE
RADIOHEAD
THE BEATLES
TOOL
LIT
R.A.T.M
BLINK 182
KORN
THE OFFSPRING
BLUR
TRAVIS
ALANIS MORISSETTE
(so do i)
and are claiming that they have meaningfull lyrics? blink 182 for one has no lyrics whatsoever, but theyre still cool
but i also like leonard cohen, cat stevens, and the guy who sung american pie, not madonna, which do have good lyrics (i hate madonna sooo much, purely cos everyone thinks she wrote american pie)
androgen 03-31-04, 03:30 PM I am the Princess Of Funk.
Music is my passion.
Sometimes it's the only thing I think I really care about.
It never lets you down and can pick you up in your darkest hours.
If it has a meaning then it's all good, thats why I can't stand the manufactured pop crap that so many people (kids and teeneyboppers) call music.
IT IS NOT MUSIC in my opinion anyway.
It has been made purely to make money. It has no heart felt meaning and money is the only thing that drives it.
People of the world should rebel against it and never buy it again.
IT IS CRAP!
If you want to hear some proper music go and buy the new MUSE album or something alternative like that.
I beg you, do yourself some justice and stop torturing your ears.
Rock on...
Does anyone else feel strongly about anything like this?
stop feeeling all righteous. 10 years ago when i was 12 i felt the exact same way as you do now. in my case i thought metal is it and everything else is crap.
since that time my perception of music has been turned upside down so many times ...
i can no longer make any generalizations. i can only tell you if something is crap on an artist-by-artist basis, no categories.
tablariddim 03-31-04, 03:42 PM There's a lot of crap out there for sure.
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