Music

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by NeonSky, Jul 12, 2001.

  1. NeonSky Registered Member

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    I am the Princess Of Funk.
    Music is my passion.
    Sometimes it's the only thing I think I really care about.
    It never lets you down and can pick you up in your darkest hours.
    If it has a meaning then it's all good, thats why I can't stand the manufactured pop crap that so many people (kids and teeneyboppers) call music.
    IT IS NOT MUSIC in my opinion anyway.
    It has been made purely to make money. It has no heart felt meaning and money is the only thing that drives it.
    People of the world should rebel against it and never buy it again.
    IT IS CRAP!
    If you want to hear some proper music go and buy the new MUSE album or something alternative like that.
    I beg you, do yourself some justice and stop torturing your ears.

    Rock on...

    Does anyone else feel strongly about anything like this?
     
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  3. rde Eukaryotic specimen Registered Senior Member

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    Nope. Not me, anyway. Remember: crappy, manufactured pop bands are aimed at seven-year-olds and vacuum-filled idiots. Not you. You'd be as well off complaining that you don't like Charles Trenet because he hasn't got the decency to sing in English.
     
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  5. NeonSky Registered Member

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    Crap pop music

    Indeed it is aimed at 7 year olds, but I am entitled to feel resent towards the crap when it is played in every shop I go in, on every tv show I watch and when it polutes the minds of the younger members of my family
     
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  7. rde Eukaryotic specimen Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Crap pop music

    Lighten up. It doesn't pollute anybody; I don't expect any seven-year-old to fully appreciate Led Zeppelin, Mozart or the Divine Comedy. Steps are no more inane than your average nursery rhyme, and I don't know anyone who's been polluted by Humpty Dumpty. As for the shops: no-one's forcing them. The fact that they're listening means that either they or most or their customers like it. If you're going to spend your life railing against shit taste, you're not going to get a lot else done.
     
  8. NeonSky Registered Member

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    I am light!

    Thank you very much for your advice but I am light - very light indeed.
    Goddamn.
    I'm thinking perhaps it would be better if I never open my mouth again.
    Why does no one ever agree with what I have to say?
    Do I really talk that much crap?
    RARG!
    Like I said before - IN MY OPINION - pop music is shit. It should be rejected by everyone in sociaty. It should be no more.

    I am also thinking that you are partial to a bit of pop music?!?
    Is this why you have such strong opinions on it too? Just a thought....
     
  9. rde Eukaryotic specimen Registered Senior Member

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    Re: I am light!

    Actually, I think it's a fucking abomination. I just happen to believe that others are entitled to differ, and given that it's not aimed at me anyway, it doesn't matter what I think. Unless someone asks for an opinion.
     
  10. NeonSky Registered Member

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    WHY?????????

    Why are you arguing with me here?
    In YOUR opinion, you don't mind if people like pop music.
    In MY opinion, I hate the crap, like really REALLY hate it.
    They are our two DIFFERENT opinions.
    So, why are you arguing with me?
    Each to his own and all that......
     
  11. rde Eukaryotic specimen Registered Senior Member

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    Re: WHY?????????

    I'm not arguing about the music. I'm arguing about the fact that neither you nor I have the right to tell anyone what they should consider 'good'.
     
  12. NeonSky Registered Member

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    OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I never once said they shouldn't listen to it.
    How many more times could I possibly say - IN MY OPINION...
    Each one to there own - as I said before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Rock on.....
     
  13. rde Eukaryotic specimen Registered Senior Member

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    Re: OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

    From your first post,the one I've been arguing against: "People of the world should rebel against it and never buy it again. IT IS CRAP!" And the new Muse album isn't nearly as good as the first.
     
  14. NeonSky Registered Member

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    If you read my post properly - above that I said - IN MY OPINION. I really can't say that any more
    IN MY OPINION
    IN MY OPINION
    ETC
    Also, Origin of Symmetry is a blinding album - not worse than Showbiz - just different.

    But in your post, you stated that OFS was worse than SHOWBIZ - tut tut! People have their own minds you know - EACH ONE TO THEIR OWN!
     
  15. rde Eukaryotic specimen Registered Senior Member

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    What's the difference between "People should do what I say" and "In my opinion people should do what I say"? I don't know anyone who'd read the former to read anything but the latter.
     
  16. NeonSky Registered Member

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    GRR

    SIGH!
     
  17. pragmathen 0001 1111 Registered Senior Member

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    Don't know if I'm allowed to step in here ...

    Welcome to Sciforums, PrincessOfFunk!

    I'm wondering what you would consider pop music and what you would consider musical art?

    For me, I enjoy heavy guitar strumming and riffs, with drums thrown in and occasional enigmatic lyrics. TOOL and Metallica come to mind (although I wouldn't really classify their lyrics as mysterious).

    I also enjoy melodious tunes and quite rambunctious lyrics and beats, as is the case with Musicals. RENT, Jekyll & Hyde, Cats to name a few.

    And then there's the growing up side of me that likes the Neil Diamond, Enya, and the occasional Yanni.

    And who could forget the political strife side with Rage Against the Machine? And the sublime Radiohead?

    Or the classical side of Orff's <i>Carmina Burana</i>, or the sheer genius of Rachmaninoff?

    Or the punk-ass side of me with Korn? The silly side with They Might Be Giants? The blues side with Eric Clapton?

    Fortunately, I work at a job where I can listen to any one of these at any given time (basically) and so, according to my tastes at that particular time, I have to option to listen to whatever.

    What makes music a piece of crap is relative, of course, to the listener. One of my coworkers has at least 300 USD worth of Jazz CD's, which I can't bring myself to get into just yet. The community I'm in loves Country Music, but it's still hard for me to enjoy it consistently. Another coworker loves Ben Harper and Aimee Mann and the Beatles, but it's not quite my cup of tea.

    The point is that we all have music tastes. And, aside from sharing some of mine, I'd be interested to know what everyone listens to. For that's the main way of branching out into other forms of music. I'd be more inclined to listen to someone else's music if they gave me a reason why they like to listen to it.

    As to me, all those different kinds of music speak to me at a different level. To throw one away because it's passe or too hard or too soft seems ridiculous to me. For, sometime, I'll want to listen to it, you know.

    Well, that's my thoughts.

    thanks!

    prag
     
  18. NeonSky Registered Member

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    Well, what I would consider to be good music would be:

    MUSE
    RADIOHEAD
    THE BEATLES
    TOOL
    LIT
    R.A.T.M
    BLINK 182
    KORN
    THE OFFSPRING
    BLUR
    TRAVIS
    ALANIS MORISSETTE
    etc

    Need I go on? Alternative stuff apeals to me mostly. Stuff with meaning as I said before.

    Rock on....
     
  19. NeonSky Registered Member

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    I missed a band of my list -
    How could I have forgotten the INCREDIBLE - Alien Ant Farm? Now they do actually rock!!

    Keep Rocking.....
     
  20. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    I find that as I get older my tastes have stabilized.

    Once I was a teeniebopper, listening to bubblegum and happy with it (mindless though it was) and an occasional tune still does not offend. Though I would not care for a steady diet of such now.

    Being of a different school than the generation now, I find that my tastes are somewhat strange by their standards and theirs to mine. Each to his own. I have no issue with that.

    I can endure a short time of country music, though my heart lies elxe where.

    But I really enjoy such as Clapton, Supertamp, Eagles, Walsh, and the like. Kinda old school for now a days but still thats cool. I dig out the reels put them and enjoy and I suspect others enjoy theirs every bit as much. Nay, I know they do.

    Music answers and resonates within the soul. It satifies that which is hard to put to words. Even though the tastes vary from group to group it is amazing that it still does the same.
     
  21. Caleb Redeemed Registered Senior Member

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    <h1><u><i>BAROQUE MUSIC RULES !!!</h1>
    <h2>LONG LIVE BAROQUE MUSIC !!!
    </u></i></h2>

    ~Caleb
     
  22. mpfunk economist slacker Registered Member

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    What I've found most interesting about this thread is that with a name PrincessOfFunk that the music listed is completely devoid of funk. Anyway I have no problem with pop music, we all in our younger days listened to shit. I can't believe how bad my music taste was back in the day. Pop music is appropriate for its audience. It is a hell of a lot better for kids to be listening to pop music as opposed to more explicit shit like Eminem. Not that I have a problem with explicit lyrics, just a problem with it hitting the wrong audience.

    As far as music goes I've over time become a mainly a jazz fan. Also listen to funk and hip-hop, mostly jazzy hip-hop that is a natural progression from and a form of jazz. In my opinion as far as modern music goes the best out there is jazz-funk bands like Medeski, Martin and Wood, Groove Collective, Greyboy Allstars (including any of the solo work of the members), and Charlie Hunter. Of course there is also the highly neglected guitar-organ-drum trio boogaloo from guys like Grant Green, Jimmy Smith, and John Patton.

    The thing too me that makes a musician truely great is the ability to improvise and play live. Too create a live show that is not just duplicating what was done in the studio but interpreting their own music and the music of others.
     
  23. NeonSky Registered Member

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    PrincessOfFunk

    The name 'ThePrincessOfFunk' is a private joke between me and my friends.
    You could call it a kind of irony if you like.

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