I am the music Genie, at least the self-professed one.

I have worked in four record stores in my life, know something about all types of music and have been living and breathing it every since I was born (about 28 years ago). I consider myself an expert on music, a good judge of quality generally and I know quality music from crap.

On this post, I am rescinding my theory that people have different kinds of minds/personalities that predispose them to certain kinds of music, so that what is good is relative. My new theory is that some people like good music and some people like crap.

Ask the Music Genie about any group, musician or artist, I will tell you if they are good, bad or whether you should commit suicide for listening to them ("metaphorical suicide" people, I don't want any wrongful death suits flying my way).

So ask away, I will give you my expert opinion. I just ask you not to name every CD in your whole collection, keep it to 3-5 tops, I do have a life here.

Also, this is just a game, so don't get offended by my responses or take things personally, but if you do I am apologizing in advance.

On this post, I am rescinding my theory that people have different kinds of minds/personalities that predispose them to certain kinds of music, so that what is good is relative. My new theory is that some people like good music and some people like crap.
There has already been research that proves that there isnt a specific gene that makes you like some music and not others, we infact learn what music to like by our upbringing and how we visulise the music that is being played.
So ask away, I will give you my expert opinion. I just ask you not to name every CD in your whole collection, keep it to 3-5 tops, I do have a life here.
Well, that does seem pretty pointless, i dont need someone to tell me that the music i listen to is crap. Also, how do we know you are telling the truth, all you have to do is go and do a search on google if you havnt heard any of their work and read other peoples opinions...
I hate this elitist attitude that some music listeners have, for example, people that listen to rock generally think that pop listeners are idiots just because they listen to that sort of music. (i am a rock listener and when i say rock i do not mean nu-metal or hair metal - i also do not have an elitist attitude for listening to this sort of music)
What do you think?

Hmm.. lets see if your theory is right....

Anyway what I consider to be a good band with (unbelievably original) good music, is a metallic nerve wrecking melodic black death long haired Finnish dude band - CHILDREN OF BODOM!!!!!!!!! :cool:

If you say it's crap, I WILL GUT YOU!
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just kidding...:)

Okay, let's see how much common sense fredx has...!

Tori Amos
Nine Inch Nails
Radiohead
Tool

Fire away, dude.

Just want to know what you think of:

Weezer
Ben Kweller
Ozma (occasionally)

Captain Crunch: can't play a little game, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah!

Blood Sucking Gerbil: Children of Bodom, I give you credit for listening to something different like this, although I am not a big fan of black metal and had friends that owned almost every black metal cd that ever came out. Don't know or remember what they sound like, but I can't get past "black metal" vocals, so they suck, but props for liking them anyway.

God is Irrelevant:
I really love all these artists so would really be being insulting for saying anything bad, but I will say something.

Tori Amos-everything up to and including boys for pele your in the clear, oh and her last single was good "A sort of Fairytale".

Nine Inch Nails- the downward spiral and select songs here and there, I can't stand the stuff that has that too much industrial cheesy sound or the stuff that can embody a catchy tune, the shit that is just grating, annoying noise.

Radiohead-anything before and including Kid A, after that they are just trying to put out too much music to cash in and worse yet, its depressing as hell, makes you want to commit suicide.

Tool-Opiate, their first album, and aenima, after that its boring plodding prog. rock that only sounds good to you little kiddies that don't know better.

Anyway, the reason I am saying this about these groups is because I think their "newer" stuff is either redundant (in terms of what they did before) or it sucks now.

Elbaz:
Weezer: is great, first three albums are great, haven't heard the one after the green one, they are fun and for that reason I can't insult them.

Ben Kweller: wus.

Ozma (occasionally): heard of them but have never heard them, make sure you keep it occasional.

Wumpscut
Sadist
Cassandra Complex

I thought we agreed if it would be best if we didn't see each other anymore.:)

Oh well, I have to let you play, don't I? Anyway, here I go:

Wumpscut: right off the bat you stumped the genie with this one, are sure this band really exists? Are you sure they are not just the sound that you boiler makes in the basement.

Sadist: classic death/heavy metal band, am I correct? Surely they are not one of the top bands in history if I don't even really know that much about them. Your music listening hours are better spent elsewhere.

Cassandra Complex: crap industrial, might come in handy if you need a headache to give your boyfriend a reason why he won't be getting sex tonite.

All in all, very clever Xev.

Oh and Rob Zombie keeps making the same damn song over and over again.

oh and doing this would be real lame:
"Also, how do we know you are telling the truth, all you have to do is go and do a search on google if you havnt heard any of their work and read other peoples opinions..."

I am just doing this post for fun, not to make myself look smart, you really don't give me alot of credit do you cap'n crunch. Anyway, I promise I won't use a search engine to even jog my mind about an artist I have heard of or knew about before. This post will be all from my head, just so you feel secure.

fredx -- Thus far, I moderately disagree with your opinions.

I think Radiohead's different albums are all a natural progression for them, and Amnesiac may very well be my favorite album by them.

Lateralus is undoubtedly Tool's best in all areas, musically, lyrically, and the album just flows as a work of art. As for the kiddies, they got more airplay with the various radio songs from Aenima (Stinkfist, 46&2, Aenema).

While I agree that Tori's earlier albums are her best (my favorite being Under The Pink), later albums such as Choirgirl Hotel and Venus are a big part of her evolution as an artist. Granted, they are often very different from her earlier works, but they are still quite accomplished and well-done.

The Downward Spiral is my favorite NIN album, with The Fragile coming in a close second. I don't overly enjoy the cookie-cutter "industrial" music they did at times, but NIN is all about grating noise. I don't understand how you like The Downward Spiral, but not "grating, annoying noise." It's one of the most abrasive, harsh, noisy albums I've ever heard.

Here's a few more of my (better known) favorites to tickle your fancy.....

Beck
Bjork
Deftones
Faith No More
Incubus
Marilyn Manson
Our Lady Peace
Smashing Pumpkins

Well, that's eight more... Hope you can get around to a reply!

Choirgirl was good now that you mention it, but nowhere near what came before it.

It is quite a paradox, that I don't like that abrasive noisy quality of some NIN and I liked the downwardspiral, I can't explain it, that album had something special about it, it is like a glimpse into another world for me.

Beck: hes not that good, very overrated, he's lame, has a good song here in there.

Bjork: I liked her first two albums somewhat, too wimpy for my taste on a whole, not enough substance to the music, annoying whiney voice at times. I like songs not industrial/dance/weird noises type music.

Deftones: liked the first album with "bored"somewhat, didn't listen to it much so it wasn't that good, white pony was decent but overrated.

Faith No More: like their first album and angel dust, third was okay, hard to listen to (i.e. king for a day), not that good, they tried to experiment too much or something. (After that, Mike Patton just went f'n insane).

Incubus: don't like that guys voice, can deal with them sometimes, will admit their decent, songs are kind of flaky and don't have a strong structure, they just kind of blow along with the wind, I like that song "drive', because I think its their best song (esp. in terms of it's message) and the other pop. songs are good and you can groove to them, wouldn't buy an album by them.

Marilyn Manson: highly overrated, real smart intellectual, nice guy and I can respect that. Music too much simple straightfoward boring rock and roll behind scary "horror" facade.

Our Lady Peace: wus

Smashing Pumpkins: the first one was good (soma) but more of a thing of interest than something I would spend alot of time listening to, siamese dream was good, the double album (with tonite tonite and rat in a cage) was decent but a little thin musically and when taken as a whole, pisces iscariot had some rocking tunes but was mediocre (i know it was mostly b-sides and what have you), that song by Zwan is decent but I am not about to run out and get their album.

i'll bite...

Pink floyd
Garbage
Grandaddy
The Roots

oh and Zappa, Frank.

those are some i like. (along with Pumpkins but you already did them)

Pink floyd: I give them props for their original style and sound and for making legendary, catchy and meaningful songs and concept albums, otherwise, I think they are highly overrated and depressing as hell to boot.

Garbage: nuff said, although stupid girl and I am only happy when it rains and the last single they came out with was kind of good.

Grandaddy: suck

The Roots: are pretty cool, at one time or another I had all of their albums, some are better than others, their new song "seed 2.0" is pretty cool as for the guitars in it, otherwise the lyrics and singing and rapping in it are kind of weak, as an article that I did read on the internet "in the past" also attests. All in all, they should be given props for doing something different.

Frank Zappa: hes too strange or weird. He is a coo coo and can be discarded from the history of music but you don't have to if you don't want to throw him out.

Thanks for broadening the scope a little.

Also, at your request, more on the Smashing Pumpkins, I think they are the quintessential alternative band, while PJ, soundgarden and Nirvana were forging grunge, they were creating alternative music into something "normal" people could actually deal with. I think that is their claim to fame. They made being a weirdo or a nerd cool and the effects can still be felt today, although I think Nirvana and PJ also did this in a way Billy Joel just couldn't. Thats all you get for now.

I disagree with your response to COB. Their throat-massacre vocals are the only ones that suit that style. If Alexi had sung sung it like Nightwish, it would have lost it's magic.

Ok, I'll ask some more with your permission:

Metallica (old stuff)
Cradle of Filth
Annihilator
Cacophony

Ok ..*rubs lamp*......

Prodigy
Gorillaz
System of a down
Kumar Sanu
Overseer
Daft Punk

...don't want to burden you now but will come with more later.


Also BTW i couldn't disagree more with what you said about Incubus.:D

Thievery corporation
Stereo MC's
Goldfrapp
Massive attack
Nightmares on wax

I'll play

Birdbrain
Stabilo Boss
Holly McNarland

Blood Sucking Gerbile:

Metallica (old stuff): kill em' all blows but its historically relevant, they were doing fine even up until load 2, I think they changed the style on Load because there was only so far they could go what they were doing, after that: garage inc. and the S&M
are a f'n disgrace. The number one metal band ever for the most part even though they are washed up now.

Cradle of Filth: crazy music, interesting lyrics: I know because Xev posted some of them, COF was the fav. band of my high school friends, pretty wild and chaotic and evil and crazy. I am not into it. My friend who loved them had a gf that didn't really like them and she called them bag of filth which I though was funny and possibly quite on the money.

Annihilator: the old thrash/metal band? Get the hell out of here with that. Old hat.

Cacophony: more gloomy death/dark/black metal. I trying to stay in a positive mood here, this music just isn't good for that.

Seargantlard:

Prodigy: I know there pop. songs "exhale" and "firestarter" and theres another one I know thats pretty good. That kind of music blows, it gets you excited and crazy and then what, you still have to go the work the next day.

Gorillaz: "i'm happy, then I'm sad...its music...on and on the future...blah...blah." Mediocre!

System of a down: they rule. The first album was kind of weak. They had to get in form. Second album was great. They have the best and most important lyrics of any band ever. The third is decent. 2-3-1, thats how to rate their albums, even though they are all good and all have their bright songs and moments.

Kumar Sanu: is he Indian, not sure if I know him, when in grad school they had a multiculural day and they played a Indian pop music guy that I really liked. I went to the store to get it, but didn't have the name, ended up buying someother guy that wasn't as good. I don't know this guy. I had a recent album by Ravi Shankar though (I think he died) that was a very spirtual type album and was very good. I don't know this person, or band or anything about this.

Overseer: I know Overdose, which were a spanish death metal band ala Sepultura or Biohazard although they were not as good as either of these. Overseer, sounds like crap.

Daft Punk: again more of that hip pop electronica, you can do better with your music bucks.

More about Incubus: maybe my problem is less that their music isn't structural strong, I just think they are not tough and heavy enough to be a hard rock band, they are a bit wus.

Ndrs:

Thievery corporation: like the name, probably wouldn't like the music. Actually I think I heard them before, refer to the other groups here like them for what I think.

Stereo MC's: if they're other music is like "get yourself connected" than I think its wus.

Goldfrapp: what? Leave me alone already with these crazy bands.

Massive attack: I think "ambient noise" music like this is often cool when used in a commercial or to set a mood or tone in a movie, but you really have to have your head examined if you listen to this for pleasure, unless you just use it for background music to jangle your gf's nerves so that her thinking gets dizzy and she gives you head.

Nightmares on wax: I don't think I have to comment on this. But if I do see above.

Nightpoet:

Birdbrain: what?

Stabilo Boss: huh? these bands sound like indie rock (independent rock). I never got indie. Nobody does except indie people. Indie people outwardly begrudge and inwardly love green day, for selling out on them. Isn't that the nature of the world.

Holly McNarland: sounds country or folk, I think I might have heard of her, i'll stick to lucinda williams or Lorena Mckennit.

note: if I haven't heard of alot of these bands it is either that they suck or that it would be better if they stuck to providing "ambient" soundscapes for movies like "The Mothman Prophecies" or "Trainspotting" or "Requiem for a Dream", etc.

You people are quite tough, I will give you that, but I am not afraid.:)

Also could you guys and girls mix it up with more bands that people would actually know or care about.

like the name, probably wouldn't like the music. Actually I think I heard them before, refer to the other groups here like them for what I think.
Fair enough...
Stereo MC's: if they're other music is like "get yourself connected" than I think its wus.
wus? You probably didn't even listen to it.
Goldfrapp: what? Leave me alone already with these crazy bands.
Crazy? What do you mean crazy bands?
Massive attack: I think "ambient noise" music like this is often cool when used in a commercial or to set a mood or tone in a movie, but you really have to have your head examined if you listen to this for pleasure, unless you just use it for background music to jangle your gf's nerves so that her thinking gets dizzy and she gives you head.
Your opinion is simply......Simply.. eh... Well you don't really seem to have a opinion. Background music? You haven't listened to it...
There's more to every analysis than saying it's just background music.


In conclusion:
1. You are not able to listen to music.
2. Judging by responses to others as well, you are more of a lame ass joker than a music genie. Obviously the depth of your music knowledge is toe deep. I feel sorry for the music shops you have worked in. :)

this is the kind of response I was afraid of. Refer to my first post where I apologized in advance. This post is meant to be taken half seriously and half jokingly, its sort of like a theatre of cruelty, although I have tried not to be too cruel, because its really not in my personality. Sorry if you think I took it too far.

hahaha... You being cruel? You are right... You can't be cruel.

Which part of your post should be taken seriously? I don't see a single part.

And, I don't see how this can be funny either. You seem to have a lack of depth of understanding in any field. (Judging by some hilarious replies in the Philosophy section)

Originally posted by fredx
Cacophony: more gloomy death/dark/black metal. I trying to stay in a positive mood here, this music just isn't good for that.


Ha! Got you! Cacophony is not death/dark/black metal. It's far from gloomy either. It's melodic metal. A mostly instrumental band focusing on impossible to play guitar licks with 4 members: The currently paralyzed Jason Becker (ALS) and Marty Friedman, two gods on the guitar, Jimmy Oshea on bass and don't remember the drummers name.

Metal is inevitably gloomy.
In fact, any complex music is gloomy and unsettling.
I used to love the chemical brothers but it was only because I was depressed.
Now I like anything simple and fun that sounds good, and I'm not one of those people that can sit in a room listening to music, I used to be, now just the thought sends chills up my spine. I need to be in a car or watching video clips.
Music by itself is creepy and depressing:(

... for me anyway...

said:
"And, I don't see how this can be funny either. You seem to have a lack of depth of understanding in any field. (Judging by some hilarious replies in the Philosophy section)"

What I want to know is why the biggest "anti-christs" are most always the biggest "conformists".

Also, I would like to know if my ideas in the philosophy section are so ridiculous, why didn't you jump in the ring and dispute them instead of hanging in the shadows like a bat being a blooksucker and a freeloader who is just "fluttering" around to steal other people's ideas.

Well, I started this post and it was my idea to be the music genie, so if you don't like it, buzz off and think of your own idea for a thread!

Well then mister joker, please give me your expert opinion of these bands:
The Lemonheads,
Blue Oyster Cult,
The Blues Brothers,
Deep Purple,
Goldfinger.

Dont give me any indecisive answers like you did with most of the other peoples.
ah thankya ver mush.

Here goes

Cibo Matto
Princess Superstar
Tenacious D

what do you think mr genie man?

Captain Crunch:
The Lemonheads: had that good version of "mrs. robinson", other than that pretty wus.
Blue Oyster Cult: has been or perhaps never has been
The Blues Brothers: cheese
Deep Purple: ditto with blue oyster cult
Goldfinger: average punk ska annoying b.s., can be fun sometimes though.

Valentino:
Cibo Matto: had their first album, found it weird, interesting and kind of good actually, guess I am a sucker for cute chicks, their stuff after that I think was generally deemed to be crap, was not that interested to follow them after their first album.

Princess Superstar: sounds like a dj or dj music? Actually I might know who this is but I am not 100% sure, sounds weak anyway.

Tenacious D: funny when performing together on television, when it comes to making albums and videos they are weak, like they are trying too hard. Jack Black is f'n hilarious in movies, can't say anything too bad about him. Both of them obviously have alot of talent and can at times be funny as hell.

The Lemonheads: had that good version of "mrs. robinson", other than that pretty wus.
Blue Oyster Cult: has been or perhaps never has been
The Blues Brothers: cheese
Deep Purple: ditto with blue oyster cult
Goldfinger: average punk ska annoying b.s., can be fun sometimes though.
you know nothing.

Originally posted by fredx
although I have tried not to be too cruel, because its really not in my personality. Sorry if you think I took it too far.



Hahahahaha .....you are joking right?...i mean seriously.


Oh and don't mind but i disagreed with every single opinion of what you said about the bands i put down.

1) It sounds like you never heard Overseer.

2) so what you have to go to work next day after listening to music like Prodigy...by that definition fast, raging music shouldn't be made:bugeye:

3) Yes ..Kumar Sanu is Indian...damn good singer too...you should really check him out:cool:

4)Incubus isn't a hard rock band...they are alternative..they never meant to be heavy metal or strong music typed.....they do what they feel...which is mostly mellow and thoughtful music.

5)Gorillaz are the only band that i have seen that could do every genre with respect. It also seemed you only heard their one single that came out...or was popular anyway.."clint eastwood"....hear their whole album and get back to me on that.

6) Daft punk is damn good...and how are they hop-hop electronic?


here comes more

Moby
Fluke
Rob Dougan
J Ralph
Zero 7
311
Rage against the Machine

seargentlard:

Moby: I'll take the eminem path with moby although I do like his popular "rock" songs like "southside" with gwen stefani and I even got into "stars" once accidently (no its an alright song). On a whole though, more electronic crap, "you can get stomped by Obie, you 18 year old boy, you don't know me, your too old, let go, nobody listens to techno".

Fluke: that their making music.

Rob Dougan: who, what, ah forget it, I don't care.

J Ralph: is this your cousin or something?

Zero 7: exactly.

311: I think they are alright. They never topped the power and energy of their first hit single "down", I like that song with the video on the beach "Amber is the color of your energy", nice romantic song, should be in that romantic song post I think you started, have heard quite a bit of their songs, their good, def. have their own style and sound but not amazing, and they seem like another one of those bands that have alot of songs that sound the same, still to mix hardcore and reggae in a way to create a new and stand out style, I give them props.

Rage against the Machine: I loved them but find their music too hard/harsh to listen to most of the time. Great revolutionary lyrics, real social conscience about making the world a better place, catchy songs. First album had some good tracks but they really needed to progress into their own style. Evil Empire, brilliant powerful hip pop/metal rock. After that they fell off a bit but still had some powerful songs with good lyrics about "consumerism" and "mind control". De la Rocha is a brilliant guy. The guitarist is great to, who's his name, I forget, ah it doesn't matter. They are all good musicians. The "renegades of funk" cover album, I hate funk, will never get it, its crap, but I did find myself grooving to the song "renegades of funk" once and do like it somewhat. I guess everybody has to lighten up now and again. "Rally round the...this is for the people of the sun...bulls on parade!" Original stuff, Enough said.

Audioslave: (I am adding this in because I know someone is going to mention it) when we first heard their song my humorous younger brother said, "thats what they are, a slave to the audio." Now, however he likes them. My opinion, decadent supergroup guitar rock, no where near as refreshing and original as either Soundgarden or Rage against the Machine. They are far from terrible though, its still not an easy thing to have your own style and especially your own style of strong powerful rock, so you have to keep that in mind with these comments.

Note: If an artist has been out for a bunch of years and hasn't made at least a moderate name for his/her/themselves, that tells you something, they are either just average or completely suck. So can we tone down the complaining just a notch.

Note: If an artist has been out for a bunch of years and hasn't made at least a moderate name for his/ her/themselves, that tells you something, they are either just average or completely suck. So can we tone down the complaining just a notch.
no, that means they havnt had the privelage of mtv and the media.
and to your second point, nah.
:)

my apologies captain crunch.

oh and also: I am the music genie, not the music Nazi, so I am not telling you to listen or stop listening to your favorite band. I am just telling you whether they are great or they suck.

Originally posted by fredx
my apologies captain crunch.


Hell you seem to be pissing me off too...well more disappointed really. You post harsh opinions on the bands like your opinions actually mattered and frankly they don't.....though even that doesn't make it right.

1) J Ralph isn't my cousin....ever seen that Volkswagen commercial where the guy is trying to rush t othe wedding but things keep getting in the way.

2) Zer0 7 is quite good...they are a modern jazz band...don't judge a book by it's cover..or in this case; a band by it's name.

3) Rob Dougan ; check out the matrix soundtrack;)

4) Fluke; Check out the Bourne identity soundtrack:cool:


why don't you put your favorites down and then we unintelligibly criticize them?:D

Your obviously mistaken, im not offended. I find it funny you pretend to know so much about diffirent bands. Your blagging and its blatently obvious. lol
:D
no worries mate, ill leave you alone now to basque in your glory.
:)

Seargentland said:
1) J Ralph isn't my cousin....ever seen that Volkswagen commercial where the guy is trying to rush t othe wedding but things keep getting in the way.

(that is cool music in the commercial, I will give you that)

2) Zer0 7 is quite good...they are a modern jazz band...don't judge a book by it's cover..or in this case; a band by it's name.

(I like some jazz, mostly I think jazz really isn't that good though, its kind of aimless and pointless (i.e. it doesn't embody a powerful and driving idea) but does embody alot of freedom, however putting zero in front of your name and modern in front of jazz kind of scares me, could be great, I will conceed that I need to hear them before I give my opinion, but I assure you it probably wouldn't be that good. I can enjoy jazz in a club, but wouldn't buy a jazz album or listen to it at home, there are better things I can do with my time and money)

3) Rob Dougan ; check out the matrix soundtrack.

(can't stand anything that has to do with that matrix bullcrap)

4) Fluke; Check out the Bourne identity soundtrack

(great movie, the name of the band just turns me off automatically, sorry)

why don't you put your favorites down and then we unintelligibly criticize them?:)

(I am the genie here)

i can sense there is a certain about of BS here(esp when you said grandaddy sucked).

I wonder if you would tell us what you like, so we may....coment ;)

just curious what the genie listens too. Christina Agulera perhaps? :p

if I don't say that every single one of your bands is great then you get in a tussle. Get over yourself. Spaceman...you really have nothing to say since for the most part I said almost all good things about the bands you mentioned, so I said one sucked, get over it. Some of you guys expect the world to kiss your butt, neither me nor the world is going to do that.

Oh and no I am not going to start naming my fav. bands and things, now that you guys are pissed you are just going to look to rip them apart. My intent was not to rip bands apart, just really to get you thinking about the modern state of things.

Christina Aguilera: can you really say anything that bad about a girl this hot. Her music is of course flaky pop without that much substance, it sure has less substance than Britney, although I think that Christina is hotter. "Stripped" blew except for the video, the new song "Fire" is catchy but it sounds like something thats been done before, "Beautiful", I kind of like that song has a good message, everybodies beautiful in their own way if not as beautiful as Christina herself (actually if you really take a close look she is rather kind of average looking, all the makeup and glamour gets in the way of most people seeing that) and its just a nice song, people like this song who you might not expect to like it. Anyway, "genie in a bottle" was a good catchy song, it had its point, I can't remember her older hits right now, but it doesn't matter, how seriously can you really take this "pop girl/boy band" stuff.

I don't understand whats going on:(

Do we say musicians and you say why they suck or what? I don't know much about music, but here are some for you;
Gravediggaz
Fiona Apple
spandau ballet
the white stripes
the bangles
the bloodhound gang

bit of diversity for ya;)

Gravediggaz: death metal grimey-ness meets wu tang clan. I thought there first album was great. They have come out with two more I believe, don't know much about these except they probably stink.

Fiona Apple: a slut. I liked some of the pop. songs off her first album, very sexy, sultry voice. I don't think I liked the stuff off of that album with that writing all over it, i.e. the poetry. I was listening to a university radio station that played a long song of hers, think it was recent but not really sure, it was a really good song, set a calming, mentally pleasing, nice yet a little bit dark mood to compliment a pissy rainy day, can't remember the name of it. All in all, I think that she has really shoplifted Tori Amo's sound (and maybe Jewel's too a little bit, not sure who came out first though), who of course shoplifted Kate Bush's sound, Fiona Apple did it far worse though, but then again who's telling. In short, she is not entirely original, but definitely a guilty pleasure.

spandau ballet: ballet is for girls, I don't know too much about them except to say they are probably old hat.

the white stripes: annoying, crap, noise music, pompous snobs, need cute yet plain looking girl to draw people to the guy's music, they are f'n annoying, I hate them, only because there is no good music out and people think they are the best band, because there is no competition. This music is rehashed garbage. I wish I would take playing my guitar and making music as a serious career, because if I did I would put these m' f' in losers to shame. The White stripes are faggy snobs that need to lose the attitude and get some sun, learn to play their instruments in an original way and stop ripping us off with their melancholy sad-sap, yet I am a snob whos better than you music. F' them.

the bangles: (i'm out of breath) "walk like an egyptian" (great party song) and "eternal flame" (I think they sung that?, good romantic song), a 2 hit wonder and the rest of their stuff was garbage.

the bloodhound gang: "do it like they do it on the discovery channel", I looked at some of their album covers, looks like silly and fun music, I wouldn't buy it, I can't stop you if thats your thing, if you like it more power to you.

oh i'm not at all taking this seriously. you think i tossed my Grandaddy CD's out the window?

I was just wondering if you could take it as well as you could dish it out. obviously you are very knowing of music stuffs and i was wondering what a music genie would listen to. that's all:)

laurel aitkin
spidernick and the maddogs
the impossibles
tragedy
autopilot
me first and the gimme gimmes
ann beretta

You're not even a cool record store music snob like Barry in Hgih Fidelty because your opinions seem to be driven by a "mainstream is good" mindset. You don't even seem to really know your shit that well either, I have worked in zero record stores and seem to know more of these bands than you do. Which is kind of sad for someone who claims to be a music genie.

Hehe, didn't think you would know any of those bands. which meant I had to post them :D

Holly McNarland sounds nothing like Lorena McKennit.
Stabilo Boss are Vancouver Indie and Birdbrain are Boston Indie

So here's a few you should have heard of:
Finger Eleven
Stabbing Westward
Sevendust
Matthew Good Band
The Tea Party

Swedishfish:

laurel aitkin: sounds very familiar, country singer? not too sure about this person.
spidernick and the maddogs: good old rock roll, nothing special.
the impossibles
tragedy
autopilot: might of had a cd by them, weird but interesting.
me first and the gimme gimmes
ann beretta

blah, blah, blah with this obscure indie shit, this stuff is just not that good.

Valentino:
thats because I am not a snob, just try to wake you up out of the bad dream of a movie you are living in, to welcome you to reality.

Nightpoet:
I never said that Loreena Mckennit has anything to do with Holly McNarland. Anyway, if you like her cool, i might have heard her before, can't remember, if I hear her in the future I will let you know what I think.

So here's a few you should have heard of:
(oh because I guess I am just a mainstream idiot, you people don't know me)

Finger Eleven: never heard of, don't want to.

Stabbing Westward: some catchy songs, average rock metal band, a little flakey.

Sevendust: decent metal band, I have heard "denial" and some other songs, nothing earth shattering that hasn't been done before.

Matthew Good Band: I didn't think that much of the couple songs I heard by them and the used record store I used to go to had like 30 copies of his album for like .99 cents each. Better of with the real thing than bite offs at least as far this band name is concerned, i.e. Dave Matthews Band, whose music I like but will admit that it can be a little too wimpy sometimes.

The Tea Party: had their first album, actually not sure if it was the first, zeppelinesque sound with middle eastern like melodies, decent band, not fantastic, again nothing earth shattering.

you guys are getting too mad and I didn't intend for that to happen. When I was teaching down south I used to eat in a diner that had a sign that said, "the road to ruin is paved with good intentions." I am going to stop paving because having people mad at me or at each other is not healthy. Anyway, thanks for making it a fun post, for me anyway, and I hope you guys don't begrudge me too much for this, after all it was just a game. Best regards, fredx

Ok, sorry if i missed this band, but

NIRVANA?

:cool:

Originally posted by fredx
you guys are getting too mad and I didn't intend for that to happen. When I was teaching down south I used to eat in a diner that had a sign that said, "the road to ruin is paved with good intentions." I am going to stop paving because having people mad at me or at each other is not healthy. Anyway, thanks for making it a fun post, for me anyway, and I hope you guys don't begrudge me too much for this, after all it was just a game. Best regards, fredx



can you ask yourself why we are getting mad?:D

fredx, you suck as a music genie. No offense.
MGB have 4 albums and 2 ep's. Matt Good by himself has one album. And ya, we'll just stop there...

Ok, since fred is leaving, howabout we music-genie eachother?

Right now I'm on biology though...maybe later.

FredX,
Ben Kweller is great, I don't know how you can call him wus withough (apparantly) every having sat through sha sha. I felt the same way at first after hearing a few seconds. Lyrics are a bit juvenile, but he's great with the instruments. Good voice too.

Ozma is also a very good band. You've never heard them, but you should. Everybody should. They are heavily influenced, and scored a tour with Weezer (whom you mentioned was great).


And finally, I don't know how you can resent the White Stripes so much. They are a good band. - Even though I've seen the seven nation army video more than I care too.

White blood cells was inspired.

EDIT:: I realize seven nation army is off of Elephant. I meant to say the thing about WBC seperately. Just to clarify...

I have gathered that you, FredX, hear music daily, but you fail to listen to it. All music has sound, but you haven't gone any farther than your ears to discover what the artists' lives were like and what they were trying to express. Its like reading Poe and not knowing about his life, or Tolkien for that reason....

Anyway, you might as well "rate" these so I don't sound like I'm just bitchin:

Sam Bush
El Tri
Duane Eddy
Dying Fetus
Raffi
Faraquet

I would love to work in a music store.

Dying Fetus:

Since the good Fredx has buggered off, I'll play:

Dying Fetus is, to me, the epitome of death metal. Unlike many death metal bands, df doesn't just scream gore. DF's lyrics are twisted, violent and gory - but unlike the posers who write violent, twisted, gory lyrics simply to be "dark", df pulls it off with intelligence and style.

Df transcends the "hardcore because we scream the same shit about dismemberment and rape accompanied by shit, psuedo-thrash riffs" shit that passes for death metal nowadays, and actually fucking sounds good.

Although "Raped on the Alter" is my favorite song by them (so I'm a sucker for love songs, so shoot me), "Kill your mother, rape your dog" has relevence to this thread:

kill your mother and rape your dog!
fuck these corporations and their fucking record stores,
I don't want my fucking paycheck feeding money whores
these bastards flood the market with their fabricated shit,
and laugh as this pathetic fucking music gets them rich...
stay the fuck, right out of my life,
I don't need your fucking advice,
you don't know what, our shit is all about,
so don't even try to figure it out,
fuck your spice girls and your fucking pearl jam,
its all a bunch a shit, I say, fuck it,
fuck your dave matthews and your fucking rem,
you god damned bitch, fucking clueless

so you're the new genie Xev?...ok i'll bite


Britney Spears
Avril Lavigne
Christina Aguliera
Sean Paul
The Dead Kennedys





:D

i was gyped!! those were not obscure at all. i think you just got lazy.

laurel aitkin does *not* sing country. he's a legend, the grandfather of ska. any music genie must know that. i thought that would be an easy one.
spidernick and the maddogs are also ska, grasshopper. a little bit of jazz, a touch of reggae, but zero rock.
i can't believe you missed me first. they're known by everybody in the punk world because the members are rotating from various punk groups with a couple core members. sooo mainstream.

i'm terribly disappointed with my genie rub. a real record store nerd, a la high fidelity, would have been able to criticize and bury my choices with flair.

Originally posted by fredx
After that, Mike Patton just went f'n insane

...which is why his music is so f'n fun to listen to

some recent projects he's been involved with that you need to hear if you haven't yet:

tomahawk
dillinger escape plan: irony is a dead scene
lovage

~GHY~

Hey, the new Tomahawk album "Mit Gas" was just released on Tuesday! It's not to miss, so pick it up at your local record store and spin it proudly! Mike Patton is the shit.

Hmm.. Fredx, are there any bands you actually like?

It would give some references as to why your tastes are so... Skewed to say the least.

I'm a musical gastronome, and the fact that you refer to bands as "woussy" makes me inclined to believe you're missing the point of listening to the music instead of forming opinions on the musicians.

Just a thought. Apologize in advance if I'm mistaken.