Well who's it going to be (drum roll) -typical gameshow hoast look- (end drum roll) The lucky winner of tonight compition is IRAQ!. Well Mr and Mrs Hussian its bomb shelters and starvation for you lucky folks, no more lazing about in the sun, guns bombs and more bombs is what you can expect, oh and no food no medical supplys and no help because no one elses gives a fuck. Bad luck to our runners up tonight folks lets give Lybia and Iran a round of applause and hope to kill them sometime in the near future.
Sounds good to me Sounds good to me Benji, don't forget Yemen, we want to fuck them up too. Your thought process is really quite interesting, to think America wants war and is just after Arab countries is bullshit. I think we should just annex Kuwait and make it a US territory and we would have all the oil we want and tell Saudi Arabia to fuck off, them let the jews and arabs kill each other off and we could put up a big theme park an call it "stupid fucking towelhead land" Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I dont think America wants war, her past leaders have proven that she does, bush is another one of these "gung ho" leaders. I like the idea of a Jews vs Islam theme park, the only problem is the rides would only work on the Jewish side because the yanks pay for it. Then when Islamic extreamist hot dog sales men start blowing up Jewish rides America will tell the Jews to go blow up some Islamic rides, after all its a tit for tat affair. Then with American bomb's the Jews will retaliate, now seeing as these bombs are yankie made who do you think the Islamic people want to attack next? Open your eyes smell the putird stench of bullshit that poors openly from U.S politcians mouths, then ask them if they intend to sell more weapons to the Isreali military.
HOLD THE PHONE!!! We had dozens of times to take out Hussein in the nineties, if we want to wipe Iraq off the map so bad why didn't we do it then? If we stick to the conspiracy theory BS, it would have probably helped Clinton's PR, especially after the Lewinski scandal. If Hussein has ties to Bin Laden, i.e. aiding in terrorism against the US and her allies, then oops, time for him to go. You have to fight back, this would be no different than Iraqi MiGs firing missiles into the WTC. Instead maybe Saddam has chosen to use commerical airliners with people, and hijackers instead. There isn't a difference.
Oh so now its pass the buck time, no longer is bin ladden the sole cause of 9/11 but hussain and any other leader a of country that the U.S dont like. This is a very dangerous game with the current international situation and its best to tred carfully when walking through a mine field.
Curly... I understand that there are suspiscions about Iraq, but I really don't follow why you're going along with all the rhetoric. Have you seen any proof (even reasonable guessework) that Iraq is linked to al-Qaida attacks? The US government can't find it and neither can anyone else - because it isn't there. Now the US has moved back onto the issue of UN weapons inspectors, but this has been ongoing for over two years. Saddam isn't going to win any 'nice-guy' awards, but the only people he's a threat to is his own. Sure the US could 'liberate' the Iraqi people, but the country would fragment, there wouldn't be any thanks for it from Iraq or anyone else, and the US would be on their own - Kofi Annan added the UN's voice to those against hitting Iraq on Monday. He's dying of cancer, got no more than 5 years left and is well contained. Arab opinion of the US would fall even further if the US had a go and this would feed extremists - exactly what I thought the US was hoping to avoid. There's no point. Not unless you also decide to invade the West Bank and liberate Palestine - forming a Palestinian government to begin the task of re-building after a brutal occupation. Much like is happening in Afghanistan. Only with several outstanding UN resolutions, the Israelis have less of a legitimate claim to governing the West Bank than the Taliban did in Afghanistan.
Just yesterday the Israeli military was using attack helicopters to fire live rockets into a trafic jam filled with innocent civilians, 2 boys both under the age of 10 died. Both boys were in a car with their farther (the target) he will live probably but will never walk again. So more innocent palestinian casualty's but ah well fuck em eh there only arabs, lets give the Jews some more guns bomb and finacial aid so they can win there war on innocents.
The NYTimes is reporting that spy planes and a military attache has visisted Somalia recently. Maybe Iraq won't be next, or there could be a smaller operation in Somalia, while the bigger stuff drops on Iraq. If evidence says that Iraq has ties to the terrorists, which I believe it does, than military action needs to be taken. Only if evidence shows that. With that said, I think Bush should push for more reform in Iraq, that means weapons inspectors, and sanctions until Hussein complys with the things he signed for at the end of the Gulf War.
One question for you. Curly, I like to ask you one thing would you approve as a person, American and Human, Mass murder and killing of 5-8 thousand childern every month?? YES I am saing every month for 10 years. How would you feel about something like that??? That has been the situation with Iraq for last 10 years. Kids are dyning there because of our GREAT sanctions they lost more then million kids so far that is a pathetic situation for country like us we call ourselves champions of human rigths. Also We want saddam there so when ever he does something stuipd or even sneeze we can tell kuawtii hey watch out he is coming to get you guys and bomb the hell out of Iraq. We never stop anyways. US wants their presence in Middle east and there is no better reason then Iraq to be there and stay there. I think it is about time that we re look our sanction policies. We lost 4000 people and we are definatly not happy about it now how does those Iraqis feel about their kids dying every day not in 100s but in 1000s. I think most american knows that Saddam is a great setup. And it is not a conspircy it is turning into a fact.
The problem with iraq is if we leave it unchecked then Saddam WILL fire scud missles with nuclear/biological warheads into Israel. We cannot allow that to happen, millions of innocents would die and because we let saddam have his cake and eat it. The sanction policy however needs reform, we cannot allow millions of innocent Iraqi's to die because they have a power hungry dictaror as a leader. So whats the answer? A military attack on Iraq now would be a major cock up by America, listening to the rhetoric comming from the UN if you boys go head long into another gulf war you will be going it alone. If you go this alone you will be walking into vietnam 2, i dont care how good your bombs planes tanks and ground forces are because you will be out numbered out gunned and a million miles from home. Is America ready for the hundred thousand or so casualtys it could take during this action? I hope you can see sense on this, even tony blair is being extreamly careful about what he's saying on this matter.
Bitch and complain. If Saddam Hussein cared about his people he would let the inspectors back in, be a lot nicer about things, and have the sanctions lifted. We aren't the only country barring goods to Iraq. It's Hussein's problem. If Bin Laden cares so much about Muslims, then he would have used his intelligence (if you can call it that), and vast monetary resources to feed the hungry. All Bin Laden is a cancer those who surround him, he will destroy them one way or another, with America's help of course.
It seems when I read this that there is a lot of sympathy out there for the terrorists and dictators that think nothing of killing a few hundred innocent people. Yet these same people are complaining of children dyeing because their dictator will not live up to the agreement he signed to end the Gulf War. The one that took the heat away before he had nothing left but to run for his life. I have mentioned this before; we did not place antiaircraft guns around hospitals and school to protect them. Yet every time we took one out here comes CNN reporting so many died (under heavy censorship from Saddam’s government). Not much notice was paid to the idea that those deaths could have been avoided by not placing those war materials where they were. We were not targeting the schools and hospitals. If it comes time to go after Saddam it will be played much the same as the Afghani military efforts. Leave no target for them to hit on till there is nothing left with which to throw munitions out of. You will notice that we did not make the same mistake as Russia and try to occupy the region until it was secured. You will further notice that when this is done that we will not be running the country. We are not after taking the oil and gas that lay there. To do so requires that we maintain a military presence there. I am in favor of ridding the world of this vermin that think the way to make notice of their plight is to terrorize others into fear of the next place that is to be target. They will not be happy until you are wearing a full beard and quoting the scriptures as the Koran says it should be done, with help and interpretation from the Taliban and like ilk. If that is what you would rather see then you are a few months late in moving to where you could enjoy the benefits of such. Negotiations were tried time and time again before this WTC came up. The favorite tactic of the Taliban was negotiate, negotiate, negotiate but give up nothing. A literal merry go round going nowhere. At some point you realize that it is fruitless to continue, so what do you do? Shrug your shoulders and go home? Wait for the next WTC to happen? When do you say we are not going to take it any more? And Israel, did you think that they didn’t lose people to the suicide bombers? Do you think that they welcomed these bombers to come into their midst and then they should not react? Whether they have the right to have a country is not debatable anymore. It is a done thing. So you would say the Arabs have sole right to that territory? Did not the Jews occupy that land long before the coming of the Arabs? Or are we being selectively amnesiac?
Well let's see, if Iraq won't let UN inspectors back in, the US may be ready to go to war against it. But , hey, the UN has no business trying to bring peace to Palestine because well... "it's not the proper venue for such things" said the US delegate. If people could die from hypocresy...
Wet 1... An amusing post. I can't quite make out whether you are supporting international law, might is right or US empire building. A few of your statements did cause me to wonder... Yes, how inconvenient the Iraqis didn't put all of their weapons, barracks and military equipment in the middle of the desert with big 'bomb here' signs on them visible to US satellites. Imagine, the nerve of them! Quite. Under the auspices of the UN or your say-so? Many would view US actions in Iraq in a similar fashion (replace 'target' with 'bombed'). Sorry for this - it does 'literally' amuse me when people 'literally' use 'literally' where they don't intend to. Quite literally. Complex issue. What is right in terms of self-defence and fighting an occupying power? I don't think the Palestinians invited the Israelis on to their land either. Just two brief points. The UN respects Israel's right to exist - as would the Arab states if Israel left the Gaza Strip and West Bank which they have been occupying since 1967. There are UN resolutions demanding they leave. Funnily, the US has 'selective amnesia' over this resolution when they justify US action in Iraq on the same grounds. And finally "Did not the Jews occupy that land long before the coming of the Arabs?" Well, say adios my friend because unless you're a native American you better pack your bags. They were there long before you.
Like that other fellow said if only people could die from hypocrisy Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!. Follow your sentiments exactly captain i dont support sadam if we'd just done the business in the gulf war we wouldn't have a problem now but bush senior didnt fancy his chances of election if they had gone into Iraq. Thing is with Iraq it has a lot of oil i dont understand why we aint pumping her dry and giving plenty of medical supplys and food in return, obviously this food for oil scheme they have in place now isnt working when thousands of kids are dying while the rest of the western world gets fat. If something doesnt work fix it! As for Israel well just odd how the US policy changed when Clinton left and Bush took over, the Clinton administration saw there was a problem and was trying its best to deal with it, Bush just say's sod it we will carry on selling arms to a country that has repeatedly broken international law. Yes i know they have lost people and i am not justifying that in any way, any loss of innocents in unacceptable. Do 2 wrongs make a right? So if the Palestinian's bomb a civilian bus then they are terrorists and they should be brought to justice (i agree with that) but when Israel's armed forces fire rockets into a crowded street its ok and we should justify the Jews murdering innocents? Oh wait your going to say they aint innocent? At 7 and 10 years of age i find that very hard to believe. Buts its ok its Israel, she's America's friend so even though she commits multiple murders and continues to occupy (find out what that word means) land that does bot belong to them we wont try to stop her in anyway, even though she has a right wing fascist dictator as leader ah well its not on America's door step so who cares lol.
The number of people that died on the suicide attacks a few weeks ago in Israel, is equal demographically to 2,000 people if the percentage was applied to the US populus. Don't tell me that just because the acts of terrorism, in some eyes, were smaller, and occur between next door neighbors, that Israel can't pursue military action against Hammas, Islamic Jihad, and anyother terroriste entities and supporters. Its a horrible thing when a country has been PROVICATED to respond to such acts of terror. But to not respond would be a greater mistake than anything else. If you yield to the terrorists they will become more powerful and overrun you.
I'm afraid that comment simply sickens me. To reduce human life to staistical equations is simply unbelievable. You dehumanise each individual life by doing so. You are essentially saying one Israeli life is equivalent to 100 American lives! Is this some sort of legacy of the kill-total psychology from the Vietnam era? If you want to speak in these terms though, the 700 Palestinian lives lost since the Intifadah began (conservative estimate) is equivalent to 5.5 million US lives (0.02% of the population). Do you think a few Americans would be so pissed off if under occupation that many were killed that they'd resort to dubious tactics? So, presumably, Palestinians have the right to respond? It would be a greater mistake not to? I thought the US had a soft spot for the oppressed, the downtrodden and the besieged? But lets be honest. With each and every reference the US now makes to WTC, there is a shield of righteousness they raise to justify more killing - be it by them or their allies. EACH life is valuable - an Afghani, Israeli, Palestinian or American. The question is how do we bring the killing to an end, not how do we balance the statistical totals. If people die in pursuit of a goal that will ultimitely lead to peace, justice and freedom then I have to swallow hard and say its a price that has to be paid. But if the path is simply one that leads to more killing for reasons other than this, I have to question it. American lives count. Israeli lives count. AND Palestinian lives count.
Captain i think we are flogging a dead horse here. These people have been subjected to 3 months of almost racists media, Asians living in America are scared to leave there houses in fear of retribution from the 9/11 attacks, if u wear a turban in the street you are liable to be arrested, beaten or killed. You might think i am making this up but in the 2 weeks after 9/11 over 1 thousand people of asian origin were arrested for simply being asian on the streets of America. In the 3 months since 9/11 the KKK and other racist groups are growing faster then in any other time in there history, gun sales are up 10 fold, paranoia is rife! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Taking all that into consideration and then asking weather or not they could give a fair and unbiased view towards peace in the middle east, i think we are asking too much of a people so blinded by media bullshit that they cant see the woods because of the tree's. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Don't worry the American war machine moves on. The Americans are too full of themselves to see that they are causing more problems throughout the world than they are solving. America, mind your own fucking business before more destruction befalls you. And no this is not a threat it is an observation.
Agreed, though the war in afghanistan is the "first step towards putting an end to terrorism" it's actually creating more angry third worlders that will be willing to die to avenge US agression. I would not be surprised if the Palestinians extremists start plotting against the US if only out of sheer rage at the support that country is giving to the Israeli killings and the mass destruction of Palestinian property. It is so dissapointing to see a country like the US, who once fought the Nazis with a clean conscience and with valour, now help the modern day descendants of those nazis in their oppression of a defenseless people....
