I just saw a movie, Deep Impact, where a comet is heading toward Earth, yada yada yada, you know most of the story already, but Morgan Freeman is the President of the United States in this movie, and OMG he just seems like he'd be such a natural! Just the voice and calm expression alone would sell me!

I doubt he's a politician, but to anyone who is familiar with Morgan Freeman, if he were in politics, how well do you think he'd fare? Let's ignore political positions, I'm talking purely his demeanor and expression and the appeal it may or may not have. Kind of a question of "political personality", really.

Morgan Freeman would be a perfect candidate! He's a guy that's both adored by Whites and Blacks. Most old Black Men are conservative, but vote Democrat. I don't know why but it's strange. Older Black men are Pro Military (Most of them served in Military for the benefits and the honor of defending the country)

They oppose gay marrige. They oppose strict gun laws, because many laws in the past prevented them from owning or carrying guns.


They oppose the welfare system because no one EVER gave them anything. Imagine a Blackman getting a handout in 1946! They oppose big Government. Why you ask? Jim Crowe comes to mind. But why do they vote Democrat? I have no idea. It's a still a mystery to me. But to answer your question Morgan would be a Republican IMO.

But why do they vote Democrat? I have no idea. It's a still a mystery to me.
because democrats work on a platform of helping the little guy, and republicans are notoriously untrustworthy to black interests.

because democrats work on a platform of helping the little guy, and republicans are notoriously untrustworthy to black interests.

They don't look at it from that perspective. Because when they grew up, both Democrats and Republicans supported segregation, and Dixe Crats like Strom Thurman were Democrats in those days. So both parties are the same in their eyes. But for the reasons I stated in my previous post. The older Black men tend to fall into the Right of the Political spectrum.

its interesting that the fundamentalist christian minister that is BLACK (who happens to be one of my best friends) is the opposite of what you describe.

your statements are baseless, in my eyes.
show a poll of 1000 elderly blacks, or some such. if im wrong, ill admit it. im not like most of the arses around here.

I liked him in Bruce Almighty. I liked him a lot before I saw his say something way too liberal and stupid on some show. No more Freeman fan here.

I just saw a movie, Deep Impact, where a comet is heading toward Earth, yada yada yada, you know most of the story already, but Morgan Freeman is the President of the United States in this movie, and OMG he just seems like he'd be such a natural! Just the voice and calm expression alone would sell me!

I doubt he's a politician, but to anyone who is familiar with Morgan Freeman, if he were in politics, how well do you think he'd fare? Let's ignore political positions, I'm talking purely his demeanor and expression and the appeal it may or may not have. Kind of a question of "political personality", really.


There are many actors for whom the above is true -- the right voice, the right demeanor, the right appeal (regardless of political views). Hell, we even had one for president once, if you'll remember. We have one running for president right now.

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Far out, man...
"Easy Reader" for President !
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9485/easyecnb0.jpg
:D

I'm talking purely his demeanor and expression and the appeal it may or may not have. Kind of a question of "political personality", really.
It was enough for this guy-
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7776/build1du6.jpg

What an awesome pic of Reagan. He was the best.

its interesting that the fundamentalist christian minister that is BLACK (who happens to be one of my best friends) is the opposite of what you describe.

your statements are baseless, in my eyes.
show a poll of 1000 elderly blacks, or some such. if im wrong, ill admit it. im not like most of the arses around here.

Ok, so you're saying this "Fundamentalist" Friend of yours is Pro gay marriage, pro gun control, and support big government? It was big government that enforced Jim Crow laws. That's why older Black Men don't like Big Government. The KKK for decades terrorized Blacks in the South, that's why they were against gun control. Because they needed a way to defend themselves from the angry mobs.

They're also stauchly against gay marrige.

Many gays and lesbians have left black churches, those pillars of the African-American community that led the fight against slavery and segregation while serving as schools, social centers and havens from discrimination.

They have found little comfort in them, and often outright denunciation. They wonder how many black church leaders who have worked against discrimination all their lives can feel Scripture-bound to discriminate against them.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04106/301047.stm

I can link alot more sources if needed.


Blacks Oppose Illegal Immigration
The U.S. media’s obvious pro-illegal immigration coverage has thus far potrayed anti-immigration advocates as white and racist while ignoring an important fact—most African Americans are also strongly opposed to legalizing immigrants who have taken many of their jobs.

Poll after poll has revealed that most blacks do not support illegal immigration yet the mainstream media has repeatedly distorted the facts. A perfect example is an article published in the San Francisco Chronicle that says most blacks support illegal immigrants and proposals to offer them work permits and a path to citizenship.

According to numerous reliable polls and black media outlets, this simply is not the case. A recent study conducted by the independent Pew Research Center revealed that nearly a quarter of black respondents said they had personally lost a job to an immigrant or knew someone who had. The Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a black think tank, said that nearly half of the respondents in its survey felt illegal immigration was a major problem and more than half said the country could not afford more illegal immigrants. Also, more than half of those surveyed said that illegal immigration had led to the loss of too many lower-paying jobs.

http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2006/04/blacks_oppose_illegal_immigrat.html


Why So Many Blacks Fear Illegal Immigrants, Pt.1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/why-so-many-blacks-fear-i_b_14472.html


Here's another Reason why..

The Republican party abolished slavery and then took the lead in trying to establish civil rights for blacks. The
Radical Republicans were particularly key in this endeavor. The Republican party was the first, following slavery, to
pass a civil rights bill, vote into office the first black officials, and are credited with the passage of the 13th, 14th, and
15th Amendments, all of which are relevant to blacks.

In 1954 a majority Republican Supreme Court put a halt on the "separate but equal" doctrine in the Brown v. Board
of Education decision and Republicans initiated the Civil Rights Acts of the 1960s. (A fact conveniently overlooked
by Democrats).

http://www.blackconservative.net/PFBlackRepublicans.html


So to say I'm talking out of my ass is non-sense! There's your evidence.

you havent shown anything of the demographic evidence you claimed existed.

I've given you more then enough evidence to support my points. While you haven't provided a shred of evidence to back up your frivilous claims.

I've given you more then enough evidence to support my points. While you haven't provided a shred of evidence to back up your frivilous claims.

1. im not making claims.
2. you havent demonstrated to me that the majority of black elderly men are "republican conservatives while voting democrat".

the onus is on you, bud.

1. im not making claims.
2. you havent demonstrated to me that the majority of black elderly men are "republican conservatives while voting democrat".

the onus is on you, bud.

Wow, you're hell bent on twisting my words. So I'm going to explain this to you like I would a 3 year old.


1) Older Blackmen, who grew up in the segregated era, voted Democrat, eventhough alot of their views are consistent with those on the Right!


2) Please, I"m challenging you to provide any ... evididence back up anything you have said. Please provide ANY counter evidence to my argument. ...

Wow, you're hell bent on twisting my words. So I'm going to explain this to you like I would a 3 year old.


1) Older Blackmen, who grew up in the segregated era, voted Democrat, eventhough alot of their views are consistent with those on the Right!


2) Please, I"m challenging you to provide any fucking evididence back up anything you have said. Please provide ANY counter evidence to my argument. You can't so STFU.

if you want to resort to vulgarity, ill win there too.
you made claims, now back them up with societally accepted statistics or figures. anything else is conjecture.

Morgan Freeman is most always cast as a person with bags of integrity and charisma, as is Nicolas Cage; 2 of my favourite actors, but who really knows their politics? They are after all, actors.

Nic Cage:
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Nicolas_Cage.php
Morgan Freeman:
http://www.celebpolitics.com/detail_page_actors.php?actor_id=237
Indicators?

Nic Cage:
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Nicolas_Cage.php
Morgan Freeman:
http://www.celebpolitics.com/detail_page_actors.php?actor_id=237
Indicators?

neither of them are very big spenders.
token gestures, im sure.

Democrats; I expected nothing less. They should both stand for election.

neither of them are very big spenders.
token gestures, im sure.

Just means they don't have an agenda.

if you want to resort to vulgarity, ill win there too.
you made claims, now back them up with societally accepted statistics or figures. anything else is conjecture.

A recent poll by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington-based think tank specializing in black issues, forecast a surprisingly large black turnout for Bush. It also found that pro-Bush blacks were more likely than Kerry supporters to be regular churchgoers, ******over age 50, opposed to gay marriage********.

http://pewforum.org/docs/index.php?DocID=150

LIKE I SAID, OLDER BLACKS ARE MORE CONSERVATIVE!!.

neither of them are very big spenders.
token gestures, im sure.


More Conjecture from you I see. Can you please link one article that says older blacks are liberal, and favor abortion, gaymarrige, big government, and gun control? You can't because you're talking out of your ass. We don't need your subjective opinions.

A recent poll by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington-based think tank specializing in black issues, forecast a surprisingly large black turnout for Bush. It also found that pro-Bush blacks were more likely than Kerry supporters to be regular churchgoers, ******over age 50, opposed to gay marriage********.

http://pewforum.org/docs/index.php?DocID=150

LIKE I SAID, OLDER BLACKS ARE MORE CONSERVATIVE!!.

well, having read through that, i dont see how the opinion on "gay marriage" is the only thing that determines a "conservative". that is literally the ONLY conservative value on the entire page that jibes true with your opinion here.

and thats what it is: opinion.

im willing to say after reading the page you posted, however, that the truth is probably somewhere further right than i expected, but i would hardly say that most blacks are predisposed to "republicanism".

It's funny, I was talking about this exact subject last night.
When I first saw the movie when it originally released, my reaction was, 'Cool, Morgan Freeman as president.' Seemed as natural as Michael Douglas as president. The fact that he was black HONESTLY didn't cross my mind till half-way through the movie.

As for Morgan's view on black history month and his answer to 'how to end racism in America', he makes a valid point. Why bring up race when it's not necessary? Why have a Black history month when blacks are an integral part of American history? Why bring attention to race when it has no bearing on a particular topic at hand?

Take the recent super bowl for example. The press (mainstream) had to point out that this was the first time there were 2 black coaches in the Super Bowl. They even went as far as polling blacks on their reaction, and asking questions like which team are they rooting for since both coaches are black.
This was totally ridiculous and unnecessary and draws attention to race when it was not relevant. Not being a huge football fan, I was not even aware that this was the first time 2 black coaches went up against each other in the Super Bowl. The more we ALL ignore the issue of race, the sooner it will become a non-issue.

That's my 2 cents, whatever it's worth.