Anyone interested in Woolly Mammots (Mammuthus primigenus BLUMENBACH 1799)? There is a Therologic (term used in Russia for paleaonthology) conference this week in Yarkutsk Russia where the "Yukagir" mammoth will be presented. I happen to know a little bit more. Spectacular.
Not really ..err..or? Anyway, tomorrow is 17 Nov, when Dick Mol is presenting the study about the new Yukagir mammoth in the conference in Yarkutsk (Russia). This is supposed the be the prime eyecatcher on Expo 2005 in Japan. Tomorrow evening I'll link to a few details about that astonishing Yukagir mammoth There is a new booklet (size european A4 - 36 pages at least one picture on every page) about Mammots including the details of the last discoveries like the astonishing Yukagir Mammith. It would sell for ten Euros (about the cost price). For the moment I will take care of the mailing costs, unless the success would ruin my financial situation. PM me if you are interested and we will see how we can deal with the dirty details. For the record this is not an commercial intend. I will loose money anyhow.
I must say I don't know much about mammoths, I just know they was a long long time ago, but something that does bother me is how come they have found them with food still in there mouth and stomach when they was frozen, thats mind boggling to think that it was even possible.
Exactly. But nevertheless it was. They are rock solid and concrete proof now that the past ice ages were completely different. Tonite I'll show more
Today the results of the investigation of the Yukagir Mammoth have been presented in Yarkutsk, Siberia and as promised here he is. Some technical details from the presentation of Dick Mol: Autumn of 2002 discovered by Mr. V. Gorokhov near Maxunuokha River Yakutia, Arctic Siberia, Russia (GPS 71° 52’ 988” North - 140° 34’ 873” East). September 2002, head extracted from the permafrost. June 2003 brief survey CERPOLEX/Mammuthus, Mammoth Museum in Yakutsk,. More remains discovered. September 2003 excavated front leg and parts of the intestines. Carbon dating: Three samples of bone, skin and hair (June 2003): Bone 18,510 +/- 80 BP Skin 18,510 +/- 100 BP Hair 18,680 +/- 100 BP Average: 18,560 +/- 50 BP Cross-check (AMS) Tucson, Arizona, USA, : Bone (rib) 18,160 +/- 110 BP First impression average-sized male Large spirally-twisted tusks typical for an old individual Entire left front leg: shoulder height 272.5 cm Combined data leg forefoot: 282.9 cm. Note the latitude 71 degrees North. Awfully close to the North Pole, I say. I wonder why there not a trace of Mammoths in the Scientific Basis of the IPCC. (Global warming)
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From the usual image and from what the scholars think. What would the Yukagir mammoth have to do in an extreme desert: Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Are you not being a little over dramatic about the implications of the find? The excellent global environment site you provided a link to, notes the provisional character of many of the postulated climate/vegetation zones. Surely this is simply another piece of data that can contribute to better defining these zones?
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BTW there are four more recent Mammoth finds, The Jarkov (the famous one), the Markel, the Fishhook and the Nikolay all in various conditions of mummification and all roamed around on the Northern Coast of Siberia (Taïmyr peninsula) during the last glacial maximum some 20,000 years ago on an arid steppe. Most certainly not a tundra and most certainly not Arctic.
The mammoths were not alone. The most abundant remains are from....horses, there were also muskoxs, whoolly Rhinos, Irish elks, but especially the saiga antilope, presently only in Mongolia, indicates that the area was a dry arid moderately cool grassy steppe.
Hhmmm, interesting. I have been wondering how odd things were during the last ice age since I erad about mammoths found with buttercups in their mouths in a readers digest book thats about 30 years old by now. It seems clear that the climate was different (d'oh) but it looks to me like the earth was tilted somewhat differently, which is odd really. But why else do you find Mammoths grazing happily at latitudes which today are permafrost?
Andre: What would the Yukagir mammoth have to do in an extreme desert: How does Jonathan Adams know that it was a desert? Are there evaporites underground there? Sand? Just curious....
Well I guess that Jon Adam's recourses have been very limited. Especially since Siberia has remained a black box for a long time. A dozen studies telling that Siberia was not an extreme desert during the ice is easy. So let's raise the standards a wee bit and let's try and find studies that suggests that ocasionally, it has been warmer than today Here is nr 2 Now, is that where lonely mammoth dragged itself laboriously throught the snow and ice of the North Pole in a raging blizzard, pursued by a pack of hungry, howling wolves?
