After promising unprecedented openness regarding Congress' pork barrel practices, House Democrats are moving in the opposite direction as they draw up spending bills for the upcoming budget year.

Democrats are sidestepping rules approved their first day in power in January to clearly identify "earmarks" - lawmakers' requests for specific projects and contracts for their states.

What they're doing runs counter to new rules that Democrats promised would make such spending decisions more open.

"We'll end this culture of corruption" my @ss.:rolleyes:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070603/D8PHA8LG0.html

Of course they are. Did you actually think that the Democrats would do anything that was actually different? I don't see how America could have been dumb enough to elect such useless people to office... can't wait for 2010...

House Democrats selected a registered lobbyist to form their political action committee, in what ethics watchdogs and Republicans are calling a contradiction of their promise to end a “culture of corruption” in Washington.

The custodian of the Democratic Freshmen PAC is William C. Oldaker, 65, whose most-recent lobbying clients include the oil industry, the tobacco lobby, pharmaceutical industries and American Indian gambling interests.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070531-123651-8692r.htm

I don't understand why they don't arrest all liberals for being unpatriotic.

I don't understand why they don't arrest all liberals for being unpatriotic.

That wouldn't work, they'd just lie or wiggle their way out of it somehow. It would be best if we just shot them at the first sign of the dreaded disease "liberalism". That would also help the over population problem on the east and west coasts ....probably about half of the population in those areas would be shot before dark on the first day of the new law.

A liberal is a person who wants to use your money to help those that he thinks needs help ....as long as he can keep all of HIS money intact.

A liberal is a person who thinks that money just appears in the hands of government, thus needs to be spent quickly in order to empty their hands to catch some more money falling.

A liberal is synonymous with "hippo-critter". It's impossible to be a liberal without being a hippo-critter.

Baron Max

Sandy, you do realize, of course, that the Democrats are just behaving the same way Republicans have since 1994?

I'm getting fed up with all of them. I think Laura, Barney and I were the last HUGE W supporters. Now I'm ticked off at his support of the shamnesty policy.:(

My point, in mentioning the fact that the Republicans excelled at "earmarks" during their years in power, is to show how on some issues, there really is no difference between the parties and that neither side is really representing the taxpayer...

Yes, I got that and totally understand/agree. :)

After promising unprecedented openness regarding Congress' pork barrel practices, House Democrats are moving in the opposite direction as they draw up spending bills for the upcoming budget year.

Democrats are sidestepping rules approved their first day in power in January to clearly identify "earmarks" - lawmakers' requests for specific projects and contracts for their states.

What they're doing runs counter to new rules that Democrats promised would make such spending decisions more open.

"We'll end this culture of corruption" my @ss.:rolleyes:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070603/D8PHA8LG0.html


I agree with you. All US politicians suck. Neocons, liberals, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, religious, or atheist. All American politicians are stupid and corrupt. I'm glad we see eye to eye, Sandy!

All American politicians are stupid and corrupt.

Why do you limit it to only American politicians? If you follow the news of the world at all, then you should readily see that virtually all politicians are corrupt. Or is it because you're like the fanatical Muslims of the world ....you hate only Americans?

Baron Max

After promising unprecedented openness regarding Congress' pork barrel practices, House Democrats are moving in the opposite direction as they draw up spending bills for the upcoming budget year.

Democrats are sidestepping rules approved their first day in power in January to clearly identify "earmarks" - lawmakers' requests for specific projects and contracts for their states.

What they're doing runs counter to new rules that Democrats promised would make such spending decisions more open.

"We'll end this culture of corruption" my @ss.:rolleyes:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070603/D8PHA8LG0.htmlI hope Americans are not stupid enough to re vote in Democrats or Republicans that allowed this.

I don't know if it's a matter of "stupidity". I tend to think it's more a matter of being uninformed, which is an altogether different beast. In my experiences being around politicians, they do things like this bill because they know the majority of the American people will never find out about it, no matter how loud the media crows. The rank and file just don't have the time or the inclination to follow the brutal day-to-day game of politics that closely...

And thus the institution of Democracy is fated to implode one day. Perhaps it's all the better that it does.

~String

Well, you know what Churchill said, Democracy is the worst form of government after all the others...

I was thinking the same thing. Where's the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood when you need one.

~String

I was thinking the same thing. Where's the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood when you need one.

~String

Pfff, I'd rather see women turned into axtolt tanks and rule over a sexless caste of mimics.

The Dems are in two groups: Beltway and new blood. The new blood has neither seniority nor a majority of the votes.

The Beltway is spineless. They've been beat up so badly in the poisoned US political climate they don't know how to take a stand. The best of them, Wellstone, got killed in a plane crash, and Feingold is just one guy.

Nevertheless, if the worst we can say about the Dems is that they haven't managed to roll back the thirteen year Republican trashing of sound governance they inherited, using their one or two vote nominal majority and no executive or judicial support, in less than six months,

maybe they aren't doing so badly after all.

lol

It doesn't matter whether or not the GOP conducted itself in whatever way. Liberals are supposed to conduct themselves better. At this point, we must wait and see what the final bills bring.

sandy i feel sorry you seem to expect that your politicians tell the truth.

I agree with Tiassa, excusing bad behavior with other bad behavior is cowardly and illogical. The democrats should either do what they say they're going to do or not march about talking about change and then turning their backs on change whenever they get the chance.

I agree.

The only decent conclusion that I can some to is that all of our politicians are full of shit. I really wish there were a better way to reach voters so that maybe someone not a millionaire could make it in there.

I'm beginning to lean more Obama - he seems like the most honest of the bunch.

Obama 08

I agree.

The only decent conclusion that I can some to is that all of our politicians are full of shit. I really wish there were a better way to reach voters so that maybe someone not a millionaire could make it in there.

Politicians are only interested in getting re-elected. They're afraid to do almost anything for fear of upsetting some of their voters.

We need to limit their re-election ...so they'll be more concerned about the good of the nation than about their own re-election.

Baron Max

Unfortunately, Baron, that would take a Constitutional Ammendment, which will never happen.

Obama in 08? What makes anyone think this man should be president? Has he ever shown any indication to be a leader?

Obama is just another slimy politician. Hasn't stopped such people before.

I agree with Tiassa, excusing bad behavior with other bad behavior is cowardly and illogical. No one defending these Beltway wimps is excusing bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior - no one, for example, is excusing W by bringing up Clinton, excusing Pelosi by bringing up the legally troubled Delay or Gingrich, or foisting similar dimwitted ploys on the alert conservative watchdogs who have done so much to hold our politicians to account these past few years.

We are evaluating the merits of a rehabilitation effort by describing the mess it faced, the means at hand, and the time available so far.

The mess is huge, the means skimpy (one vote simple partisan majorities, active executive interference rather than support, , chancy judiciary support), and the time short so far.

I can overlook some pork if it means Democrats are elected. Almost half a trillion dollars went into Iraq already for Bush's war, no state project can even come close.

I can overlook some pork if it means Democrats are elected. Almost half a trillion dollars went into Iraq already for Bush's war, no state project can even come close.

Maybe you should start adding up some of that Demo pork, Spider! You might change ye're mind pretty quickly. A million here, a million there, pretty soon ye're talkin' about some real money!

Baron Max

I can overlook some pork if it means Democrats are elected. Almost half a trillion dollars went into Iraq already for Bush's war, no state project can even come close.

Maybe you should start adding up some of that Demo pork, Spider! You might change ye're mind pretty quickly. A million here, a million there, pretty soon ye're talkin' about some real money!

Baron Max

:D I certainly think it is better to conduct business out in the open than to hide in the dark. It is the principle of honesty of it all.

I certainly think it is better to conduct business out in the open than to hide in the dark. It is the principle of honesty of it all.

So, ...if the USA is involved in some spy missions in Russia and Iran, we should tell the news media all about it and who the spies are, showing their pictures and descriptions???

Baron Max

The NYTimes already does that. They out every secret they can. It is their goal to ruin Bush as much as they can.:(

One thing I was wondering about, conservatives/republicans always go on about how the Democrats are a tax-and-spend bunch BUT come on, how much has the government grown under Bush compared with Clinton? How much MORE money was spent under Bush compared with Clinton. What about that arse-hole that wanted a multi million dollar bridge, named after himself, in Alaska - going to an island with all of like 3 people?

Obama can not do as bad as Bush - that's for sure.

Then again Hillary has the experience it probably takes to navigate these shark infested waters??

Hmmmm....

Barack Hussien Obama is not qualified to be president of anything.
Most Americans are having a hard time trusting Hillary.

Spending may have grown under Bush but my tax rate hasn't. Even though I am paying for 20 milliion illegal aliens.

One thing I was wondering about, conservatives/republicans always go on about how the Democrats are a tax-and-spend bunch BUT come on, how much has the government grown under Bush compared with Clinton?

I know this is gonna' come as a surprise to you, Michael, but there's a war going on now ....and there wasnt when Clinton was in office. I'm sure you can figure out how the money was spent relative to each administration.

But I'd much rather spend the money fighting terrorism and the Muslims, than give it to some jerk who doesn't want to work and just wants free handouts!

Baron Max

But I'd much rather spend the money fighting terrorism .... than give it to some jerk who doesn't want to work and just wants free handouts!

Baron MaxHey man, we can totally agree on this - that is for sure. I think welfare should be banned. It's a curse.

But, many of those people are NOT jerks. That's because my mother was one of those people. She grew up in a time when a women stayed at home and took care of her kids while her husband worked. Too bad she met her cheating husband, my father, who made 80K/year but divorced her after 3 years marriage and agreed to pay her $40/wk. I don't think she knew what to do. She never remarried and she made-do with that $40/wk and never asked for more and never got a job. Which is why I hate welfare - because it sucks the ambition and thus the life right out of people. Had my mother been forced to work she'd probably have pulled herself up and struggled but have lived. The struggle is what it's all about.

So we can at least agree that welfare should be banned.

Barack Hussien Obama is not qualified to be president of anything.Well, but all the Co he ran into the ground, either was bush! ;)

Obama is perhaps a little to inexperienced.

Most Americans are having a hard time trusting Hillary.
That's true. Even I'm not sure what to make of her.

Spending may have grown under Bush but my tax rate hasn't. Even though I am paying for 20 milliion illegal aliens.This is what I don't get - it seems, war aside, that Bush is anti-traditional conservative fiscal responsibility. That much I don't get.

Not just welfare. Illegal aliens are costing us more than welfare. The last thing I read said 2.5 TRILLION dollars. That sucks.

lol if yall want a laugh about illegal aliens, check out the thread in "Ethics, Morality and justice" about illegal immigration

It is hilarious to hear this guy lixluke rant about how we have no right to say who can and cant live in our country and we should give all the land to the indians!! lol

"The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration." :D

I just read an article that says the democrats have lost their edge in Congress and their ratings have returned to pre-election levels. No surprise here.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3242551&page=1

superstring99

I was thinking the same thing. Where's the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood when you need one.

The Spice must flow!

The NYSlimes buried the story of the JFK Muslim terrorists on page 37.:(

You had to get to the fourth paragraph before you found out that the terrorists were Muslims. And then you only get a quote from an FBI official saying that the men had "fundamentalist Islamic beliefs of a violent nature."

The NYT has abandoned responsible journalism for partisan electioneering. If they put the story on page one where it belongs, people might take it seriously. Then they would have to admit must we are actually threatened by Islamic terrorists. This would make John Edwards' statement that the war on terror is just a "bumper sticker, nothing more" sound ridiculous. The Times will not do anything to make any front-running Democrat candidate look like a fool. They want a democrat back in the White House.:mad:

*** THE NEW YORK TIMES WILL DOWNPLAY NEWS OF ISLAMIC TERRORIST THREATS AGAINST THE U.S. IN ORDER TO SUPPORT DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS.***:mad:

Nancy Pelosi's wage hike endangers workers' jobs. Tuna canneries in American Samoa are looking at outsourcing labor. So are many other companies.
Pundits caught her allowing an exemption for workers in American Samoa. But when faced with evidence supporting critical condemnations of "double standards," she relented and allowed the minimum wage bill for the rest of the United States and its other territories to include American Samoa. :(

Business leaders have warned there will be trouble. StarKist Samoa says it had planned to hire up to another 300 workers for an expansion of its production lines, but that plan now is on hold.

Pelosi was exempting hometown companies from minimum wage. "This is exactly the hypocrisy and double talk that we have come to expect from the Democrats."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56019

Nothing worldnetdaily says can be trusted, just like nothing Bush says can be trusted. Should I start a thread on Republican support of slave labor in the Marianas? (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=15567)

What's so perfect about Saipan and the other 13 Northern Mariana Islands? Primarily this: items produced there can carry the label "Made in USA" and be sold in the U.S. without tariffs or quotas, but the scandalously low U.S. minimum wage does not apply, and the pathetically minimal rights of immigrants and workers in the U.S. do not apply. There are no labor unions. Any worker can be terminated and deported at any time for no cause.


The workers, mostly Chinese women, sew clothing for J. Jill, Elie Tahari, Ann Taylor, Liz Claiborne, The Gap, and Ralph Lauren, among others. They pay so much money to obtain work and for shelter and food, that they can labor for a decade and still not pay it back. They serve, therefore, as indentured servants, sharing rooms and beds, lacking health care, and working extra unpaid hours for the reward of being permitted to also work paid overtime. Pregnancy is unacceptable, costs of it not covered, and amateur abortion encouraged.

Guess who earned $11 million in fees from the Marianas government and garment manufacturers? A fellow by the name of Jack Abramoff.

Who ran all those hyped stories leading up to the Iraq war? The New York Times. (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0220-04.htm)

The NYSlimes buried the story of the JFK Muslim terrorists on page 37.:( ...*** THE NEW YORK TIMES WILL DOWNPLAY NEWS OF ISLAMIC TERRORIST THREATS AGAINST THE U.S. IN ORDER TO SUPPORT DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS.***:mad:

Well, the fact is those people commited no act of terror. They were only talking about it. That's some war indeed when it can be stopped by a clerk at Kinko's. The whole story makes the Bush administration look like keystone cops. Edwards is completely right. The "war on terror" is only a phrase, like the "war on drugs".

The NYTimes already does that. They out every secret they can. It is their goal to ruin Bush as much as they can.

You mean like the Bush administration outing a covert CIA agent? And yes, the CIA confirmed as testified in congress that Plame was indeed covert. That's treason. :mad: :mad: :mad:

And yes, the CIA confirmed as testified in congress that Plame was indeed covert.

Huh? Valerie Plame went to work at the CIA offices every fuckin' day of the week for years. Anyone who cared could have known that she worked at CIA. How is that "covert"???

Baron Max

So, by your reasoning, no one who works at the CIA could be a covert agent? I really doubt that you have any idea what you're talking about. How do you know she drove to work? How do you know she was unable to recognize someone tailing her car?

Why do you limit it to only American politicians?

The thread is about American politics/politicians, is it not?


If you follow the news of the world at all, then you should readily see that virtually all politicians are corrupt.

Absolutely.

Or is it because you're like the fanatical Muslims of the world ....you hate only Americans?

Shhh! That's a secret between you and me ;)

FBI Raid on Lawmaker's Office Is Questioned (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/22/AR2006052201080.html)

House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) expressed alarm at the raid. "The actions of the Justice Department in seeking and executing this warrant raise important Constitutional issues that go well beyond the specifics of this case," he said in a lengthy statement released last night.

"Insofar as I am aware, since the founding of our Republic 219 years ago, the Justice Department has never found it necessary to do what it did Saturday night, crossing this Separation of Powers line, in order to successfully prosecute corruption by Members of Congress," he said. "Nothing I have learned in the last 48 hours leads me to believe that there was any necessity to change the precedent established over those 219 years."

It seems that Bush's Justice Department can't even catch criminals while living up to the constitution.

It seems that Bush's Justice Department can't even catch criminals while living up to the constitution.

Now what's interesting here is that for decades and decades, the Justice Department hasn't been able to catch criminals, ...YET... you chose to post that as if the Justice Department has ONLY failed under the current administration. See?

See how easy it is to make a sensationalist statement with bias, and have it seem as if you're telling some truth? That sucks ...that sucks giant donkey dick that anyone would make such a slanderous comment as that without being subject to punishment!

And if you want the real reason that the JD can't catch criminals now, it's all due to the fuckin' restrictive, hampering bullshit, liberal, doo-gooder laws that have handcuffed the cops completely.

Baron Max

Why do you hate America? Because without those restrictions on the Federal government, it would be totalitarianism.

After promising unprecedented openness regarding Congress' pork barrel practices, House Democrats are moving in the opposite direction as they draw up spending bills for the upcoming budget year.

Democrats are sidestepping rules approved their first day in power in January to clearly identify "earmarks" - lawmakers' requests for specific projects and contracts for their states.

What they're doing runs counter to new rules that Democrats promised would make such spending decisions more open.

"We'll end this culture of corruption" my @ss.:rolleyes:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070603/D8PHA8LG0.html

Oh no not yet another corrupt government figure?

your point is? because I consider both options for you guys equally disapointing.

Because without those restrictions on the Federal government, it would be totalitarianism.

...LOL! Spider, there's a very big difference between applying strict, democratic, law-endorcement techniques and totalitarianism! ...LOL!

Sounds to me like you're guilty of the Baron Max "Slippery Slope to the Max" syndrome. Have you been studying my methods or what?

But just look what we have in this country now ...high crime rates that are climbing higher and higher. And all the time, while this is happening, we allow more and more restrictions on our police and law-enforcement. Don't you see a connection?? At all??

Baron Max

..because I consider both options for you guys equally disapointing.

How odd for a Russian to say that .....when you guys ain't got hardly any options!

Baron Max

You mean like the Bush administration outing a covert CIA agent? And yes, the CIA confirmed as testified in congress that Plame was indeed covert. That's treason. :mad:

This thread is about MORE LIBERAL HYPOCRISY.
If you want to start a thread about Plame, go for it. I would LOVE to discuss that sham of a case.
I especially liked when she appeared in Vanity Fair.:rolleyes:

I don't understand why they don't arrest all liberals for being unpatriotic.

They will, they will. One thing at the time.
On the day George the Wonderful, W, Bush got in his office (with some help) there were just over 30,000 official lobbyists in the DC area. Now they have been more than 200,000 registered lobbyists who now have 2.5 times more funds at hand per lobbyist than they used to have before. This is loosely 15 times more money flowing from large corporations, oil producing radical muslim countries, other "interests", into the pockets of "decision makers".
This I would call a step in the right direction. A step towards democracy just like the ones Iraqis are making. We used to have 30,000 people making decisions before, now we have 200,000.
This is like trickle down political power for sale.
The ideal would be to have no real representatives or elections, but on the Bills we are interested in we can pay for or pay against those. The more you pay, the fatter the pork...eehh.. the better the chance.
It is true already and has been for decades, a wealthy "US enemy" can fly in and out of the country, stay in the best hotels, slip a check into the right lobbyist's pocket, slap a few American servants around and enjoy more political rights than a one legged 9th generation American vet. waving his empty hat at bystanders in a corner of DC!
He might even get arrested for "impeding traffic" in a DC sidewalk, as the Bin Laden family convoy is about to exit the Hilton and all streets must be cleared while they are driving to their private plane parked at the US Air Force base.

This a government of, for, and by the dollars, one god under one franchise, .....blahhh blahhh.. please all stand up and wave at the flag as they are transforming it into a swastika!

:shrug:

How odd for a Russian to say that .....when you guys ain't got hardly any options!

Baron Max

Boohoo, I'm oppressed, come save my freedoms Max, I'm not allowed to Americanise, my home country, or vote for alcoholics.

Go build some levees.

Why do you hate America? Because without those restrictions on the Federal government, it would be totalitarianism.

Restrictions, restrictions, what restrictions? I thought we were done with restrictions when the Patriot and Homeland acts were shoe horned in there and none dared to call them unconstitutional. I thought it was finally over when on May 9th this new Pres. directive was signed and nearly a MONTH later neither house has moved to blog it, therefore THERE ARE NO restrictions.

It is a hurricane year, one will eventually hit, and as thousands of displaced Americans will wonder from camp to camp the directive will go in effect.
Where do you see the restriction? It is a one man game! Finally, the poor man will get tha chance he is waiting for. Out you go you stinky liberal constitutionalists. The heck with your process.... the man talks and shit will happen. A very effective government!

Orwell was off by more than 2 decades, 3 years, and a few days. A prophet nevertheless.

This thread is about MORE LIBERAL HYPOCRISY.And I said I agree - if they are hypocrites they will not garnish my vote next time around.

The funny thing is, I read with disgust the treatment of human beings on American territory - - - -working like slaves for decades on end to make designer "Made in America" labels for US Citizens and not a peep from any other than spidergoat. It's as if you guys could give two f*ckes.

I find it sick. Just sick.

Mighty Christian of you Sandy. Yes, I'm sure Jesus is so happy with the ill treatment of poor disadvantaged Chinese women.


And as for the boost in wage - - I always wonder how in the world Australians can pay a minimum of $12/hr and an average of $15-18/hour AND give universal medical coverage AND be debt free AND as a matter of fact the social security for my generation's retirement 30 years old+ is paid for in FULL. YET the USA can not manage a small hike in their pathetic minimum wage which as it now stands at a paltry $200/wk pre-tax!!! (if you work 40 hours/week). What's that $150/week.

The Shinning City on the Hill - - yeah right.



The fact that the rich convinced Americans to demand that their fellow citizens remain poor and f*ck one another over, I can only say, is a serious testimony to the old adage divide and conquer.

Republican -vs- Democrat

with the rich and powerful sitting back playing one sucker off the other and laughing all the way to the f*cking bank.

MII

For one thing you don't have 50 million criminal alien parasites sucking your system dry. You didn't lose 3,000 people 911. You didn't make a committment to do everything in your power to end terrorism. You probably don't have as many Islamic terror cells growing since your immigration laws are actually enforced. Big difference. In everything.:rolleyes:

For one thing you don't have 50 million criminal alien parasites sucking your system dry.

1/6th of the population?

We don't actually know. No one can keep track since no one follows these people. There has to be 20 million on the West coast alone. Some days it looks like 20 million just in CA. Add a few million more in NV.

There's probably another 10 million in TX, AZ, CO, and NM.

I'm guessing FL, GA, and IL have at least 10 million combined. Last time I was in FL no one spoke English and it was disgusting. It looked more like Mexico. So did IL.

NY,NJ,and NC probably have another 5 million combined...

50 million may be off. There may be more. The gov is saying 12-20. If they said 50 there would probably be massive protests in the streets. And not by criminal aliens.;)

Well the demonrats are sure doing a fine job in their first 100+
days. :rolleyes:

They have launched over 300 investigations into the Bush administration. :mad:

They had over 350 requests for documents and interviews and they have had over 600 oversight hearings. Stupid, pathetic...:mad:

Maybe the lawmakers should spend more time passing bills to solve the nation's problems, no?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070705/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_subpoenas_6

The Bush administration is the biggest problem with this nation. :mad:

No. Evil muslim terrorists and criminal aliens are the biggest problems here.

They sure fooled you.

No. Evil muslim terrorists and criminal aliens are the biggest problems here.

They sure fooled you.

I have to agree with Spider on this one. Though terrorism and illegal immigration are HUGE issues-- neither will ever bankrupt the country. Ridiculous politicians and a complacent public that is actively diverted with tales of bad-things-to-come will always be a far greater danger to this society than any one or two external-cum-internal threats.

(none of which is to say that we shouldn't be "distracted" by said threats--- just not to the point where we miss the very fact that the VAST majority of government actions are, at best, unproductive, and at worst, highly pernicious to human kind)

~String

We won't have a country to bankrupt if the evil muslim terrorists have their way.

And all the criminal alien immigration will destroy us too. It's already destroying neighborhoods/schools/hospitals/welfare budgets/jails. That's where it starts. :(

Sandy, you do realize, of course, that the Democrats are just behaving the same way Republicans have since 1994?
That's bull. Back in 1994, the Republicans actually kept their promises. True, by 2006 they were just as bad as the Democrats. But in 1994 they were great.

That's bull. Back in 1994, the Republicans actually kept their promises. True, by 2006 they were just as bad as the Democrats. But in 1994 they were great.

I agree with this. The Republicans actually stood for something and got something done back then (like, say... balancing the Federal budget!). Too long in power and too much power corrupted them... as it would and has done every party. Sad.

~String

the problem with the republicans is not them as a whole just the section that control the party right now

That's bull. Back in 1994, the Republicans actually kept their promises. Allowing for the fact that the purge of the moderates and independents had not completely taken effect, they behaved then as they do now. There was fine piece of BS called the "Contract With America", full of promises, not kept, for example.

The current Republican administration and recent Congress has been behaving almost entirely as Reagan's administration attempted to behave, and as the Republican Congress under Clinton's administration attempted to behave,

and as the Republican Party has been set up to behave ever since it picked up the fundies and bigots that Lyndon Johnson's Great Society ejected from the Democratic Party, started playing them for chumps - and got played itself.

Yes, yes Ice... and if it weren't for the innocent Democrats the Republicans would have declaired a dictatorship... but time and time again the wonderful wishes of liberals in America are thwarted because of nasty conservatives.

Yawn.

~String

He's not biased at all, is he?