So I just watched this movie in its entirety (bits and pieces before), and to me, the movie left way more questions (not the obvious ones) that I would like to see if someone can enlighten me on...for those who have seen it. -when the first crew was on the planet, why did the beings send out that vortex to kill those three crew members? If according to Gary Sinise's character, "they're us. we're them", they wouldn't want to kill their own creations...especially when we weren't trying to kill them. -what were the Aliens doing on Mars when their real home was apparently in the Andromeda galaxy? (every spaceship but one that left Mars post asteriod went back to Andromeda, only one stayed behind and seeded earth) -That said, why did the beings stay on Mars when it was apparent that Earth was more inhabitable? Why didn't they all just up and move over to Earth? -why didn't they live on earth just like they did on Mars when it had water? -why didn't they come to earth instead of making us come to them/why didn't they only invite the astronauts to come with them? -who else here would have accepted their invitation to go with them? I know damn well I would have
* they got all killed because they did not provide the correct lock combination of the human dna, the aliens (us in future) were afraid that some other species other than human will use this spaceship for the wrong ways. * their real home was on Mars, they escaped to Andromeda. * Apparently that part I don't know Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I guess they were happy enough at Mars and Earth was too unstable of a planet for them. But yeah that part gets me too Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! * because they left for Andromeda long time ago, millions of years ago...that was just a hologram. And we dont know what happened to them in Andromeda * I probably would have accepted it, but that depends...if I was married and had kids I would not have accepted the invitation, if I had nothing going for me I would accept the invitation.
Wow dude, you paid attention to that movie. I was just quite disappointed by the way it wanted to be '2001', but wasn't really poignant enough. I can't be arsed to watch it again and look for the holes in the plot you saw. Once was enough.
De Palma It's a De Palma film. So if it leaves you with more questions than answers, that's part of the reason why. As I recall, though, one review at the time described the movie as "six actors in search of a script". And when I start adding up the elements of that film—De Palma, Sinise, Cheadle, Robbins ... and a studio race that saw this one beat Corman's Ghosts of Mars to the cinema—its many failures start to make sense. Mission to Mars was rushed through production, and it shows. The script is weak even before we get to Mike's questions, and it falls back on untenable devices to make the plot even possible. I was high enough when I watched that one that I admit that I didn't notice all the stuff Mike pointed out. I was too busy laughing at the greenhouse.
'Ghosts of Mars', ah yes, the one where the Finnish Death Metal band go on the rampage? Or at least, that's what the possessed being things looked like. That movie sucked. 200 years into the future, but they have recognisable weapons from the 20th century? To quote 'Simon Phoenix' from 'Demolition Man' 'This is the future, where are all the phaser guns?'.
True, but Scarface left me with no questions. I was quite fulfilled with that film. Haha. Oh yeah. I read that it didn't get very good reviews. Plus I'm one to pick apart fallacies in movies. I mean if you're going to make a sci-fi movie based in our timeline and dimension, at least try to stay somewhat grounded in reality. And Ghosts of Mars totally sucked assballtaint. There was another movie about Mars, called Red Planet. It wasn't too bad, but it was about as good as Mission to Mars. Oh the greenhouse is an issue all its own. I love how the simple 'nylon' canvas around it in the near vaccum of Mars held up perfectly. I paid attention to the parts that had to deal with the mountain/face and the extra terrestrials. All the other stuff was like ehhh whatever. They didn't all get killed. They spared Don Cheadle's character. Plus, given that the evolved us were millions of years ahead of us, they KNEW that those were humans exploring around the face of the mountain. There was no need for them to kill their own. They went all the way to Andromeda when Earth was just around the corner? Gary Sinise's character even mentioned right after the hologram that Andromeda WAS their home, almost implying that Mars was one of their colonies. You don't just up and escape a planet and head off to another galaxy on a whim. If Earth was too unstable a planet for them, why did they send one of their own spaceships to seed the Earth? "They're us. We're them" If we can inhabit earth, they could too. Eff you DePalma for leaving so much shit unanswered. And you know, it would seem that if you were going to do a manned mission to Mars, you should already have a contingency/rescue mission in place even before you send the first crew, should you need to rescue them.
Was that the Val Kilmer one with the Robot Dog thing? I thought the robot was a neat idea, I can't really recall much else, can't have been that inspiring.
Yep. The robot dog's name was AMEE. She had an attack mode and got damaged while she was in that mode and got stuck there and was chasing Kilmer's character to kill him. Their maps were pretty cool too. They opened up like the old sailor charts but the sheet part was 'virtual'.
De Palma .... Well, yeah, but that was 1983. By the time he got to Mission to Mars, he was also responsible for Casualties of War, Snake Eyes, and Mission: Impossible. And then he managed to piss off Sinise with Redacted. Apparently, actor was upset that De Palma made an Iraq War movie that wasn't propaganda. "There are 150,000 people serving honorably, but Brian De Palma didn't care to show those stories," Sinise told today's (Tuesday) Chicago Tribune. The al-Mahmudiyah incident, he maintained, was "one particular, horrible episode that happened by, clearly, some criminals who happen to be in the American military." Although acknowledging that he himself had not seen the film, Sinise said that he had concluded that De Palma had intended to create anti-war propaganda with it. "I knew he had a very political agenda with making that film to make the American military look really, really horrible. ... Brian De Palma hates the American military," he said. (IMDB) • • • "He was out to get the troops, to depict them as child rapists. That's the truth he wanted to tell. That's one particular, horrible episode that happened by, clearly, some criminals who happen to be in the American military." (Elder) So that's actually a positive sign. After all, when you can so badly piss off someone you have a long working relationship with by making a film he's never seen? Damn. So who knows? Maybe De Palma's getting his shit together again. Then again, maybe not. He directed The Untouchables, about Elliot Ness, in 1987. He is currently developing what sounds to be a prequel: The Untouchables: Capone Rising. Given that The Untouchables was a television series almost thirty years before Kevin Costner replaced Robert Stack as Elliot Ness .... I don't know. He's apparently a bitch to work with, rivaled only by the headache of directing Tom Cruise, and his directorial credits have been hit and miss over the years. Long hailed as a great director because of Scarface, it's hard to overlook such disasters as Wise Guys and Blow Out. And Bonfire of the Vanities was mediocre, saved in large part by Tom Hanks. ____________________ Notes: Internet Movie Data Base. "Actor Sinise Clashes With Director De Palma On Iraq". March 10, 2009. IMDB.com. Accessed May 7, 2009. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0937237/news#ni0704786 Elder, Robert K. "Gary Sinise speaks out in defense of military with 'Brothers at War'". Chicago Tribune. March 10, 2009. ChicagoTribune.com. Accessed May 7, 2009. http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0310-sinise-brothers-at-warmar10,0,4193484.story
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