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Orleander
09-06-07, 07:06 PM
Could you do it? I don't know if we could. Breakfast/Lunch for the kids would be taken care of by the schools M-F. We'd be living on potatoes and eggs. And there would be no leftovers or food in the garbage. Lots of veggie soup.
Dang! For my family that's only $3 a day per person.

$21 per week (http://www.michiganfoodstampchallenge.org/) per person is all you get.

That’s all the average food stamp recipient gets. Three dollars a day, just $1 per meal.Can you imagine feeding your 14-year old growing son on that amount?

Yet even this small amount is under threat. Congress will vote on proposed cuts to Food Stamps this October. The time to act is now.

That’s why we’re asking you to take the Challenge. Try one living for one week from September 4-10 on just $21. Get a glimpse of what people living on food stamps face every week.

nietzschefan
09-06-07, 07:09 PM
I've lived on less than that. week old bread, picking the mold off it.

Orleander
09-06-07, 07:12 PM
I've lived on less than that. week old bread, picking the mold off it.

Can you imagine raising kids on that? I'd be going hungry lots of nights. Raman noodles would be our best friend.

shorty_37
09-06-07, 07:17 PM
Raman noodles would be our best friend.

We would just eat our best friend! LoL


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/685/scifi331nb4.jpg

Orleander
09-06-07, 07:17 PM
I wouldn't have that best friend. How could I afford to feed a pet if I couldn't feed the kids.

nietzschefan
09-06-07, 07:17 PM
Can you imagine raising kids on that? I'd be going hungry lots of nights. Raman noodles would be our best friend.

I was a kid.

Orleander
09-06-07, 07:18 PM
I was a kid.

oooooooo :bawl: That's so sad. I'm so sorry Nietz. :(

nietzschefan
09-06-07, 07:19 PM
We would just eat our best friend! LoL


http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/685/scifi331nb4.jpg

He does got a lot of good meat on him for a lil' dog. Probably getting kinda tough.

Xev
09-06-07, 07:31 PM
Could you do it? I don't know if we could. Breakfast/Lunch for the kids would be taken care of by the schools M-F. We'd be living on potatoes and eggs. And there would be no leftovers or food in the garbage. Lots of veggie soup.
Dang! For my family that's only $3 a day per person.

[I]$21 per week (http://www.michiganfoodstampchallenge.org/) per person is all you get.



I like it. Plus MIchigan's a good state for that sort of thing - plenty of fresh produce. I need to head down to a Farmer's Market this weekend for some cheap veggies.

Food stamps are supposed to be help from the government, not total support.

cato
09-06-07, 08:36 PM
I grew up like that. some days it would be spoon-fulls of welfare peanut butter for dinner because there was no bread to eat it with, no hot water, no heat in the winter unless I cut/split/stacked the wood myself. obviously I moved out the second I got a chance (age 15).

nietzschefan
09-06-07, 08:39 PM
Welfare would have been nice...my parents were too "proud". fukin idiots.

desi
09-06-07, 08:44 PM
"Necessity is the mother of invention." Its a good idea.

nietzschefan
09-06-07, 08:47 PM
"Necessity is the mother of invention." Its a good idea.

No it isn't. I'm anti-welfare even.

Xev
09-06-07, 09:54 PM
Welfare would have been nice...my parents were too "proud". fukin idiots.

Maybe. But you were spared Catholic Social Services - fat bitches talking about Jesus like you're such heathen scum.
My mum used food stamps when I was young. I still remember them being awful humiliating things, in the States they used to be brightly colored and I swear, they must have done that on purpose so that everyone in line knew you were using them. :)

Anyways 1$ per person per day is doable, just not desireable, and since when is poverty supposed to be fun?

Orleander
09-07-07, 09:35 AM
Welfare would have been nice...my parents were too "proud". fukin idiots.

I've heard of parents being charged with neglect for doing that. Qualifying for food stamps but pride coming before their children. Did they have jobs?

I used to buy food stamps off my friend (.60 on the 1.00). She needed gas money to visit her boyfriend in jail. He held a gun to her head and I called 911 on him. She's now married to him. :rolleyes:

nietzschefan
09-07-07, 10:00 AM
Dad had a laundromat business that was in the red for about as much money my mom made at mmmmmMMMMMarvelous muffins. Knowing what I know now, I'm pissed. That was a cash business, he could have fuked the government hard on taxes. They sure did to him on his oilrig paychecks and then again when Trudeau gave Alberta the sandpaper ass-rape with the national energy program - killing nearly every oil job in Oiltown Edmonton. A truely hard way(but good way) for an 8 year old to learn politics.

They were classically "good" people that slaved their asses off, for nothing in my opinion. Hense my generally cynic views on consumer capitalism.

shorty_37
09-07-07, 10:02 AM
I never had to experience any of this. I have too much pride and never
want to ask for help unless I am desperate. It would have been VERY hard for me.

I grew up with money.....but my mom was abusive I don't know what is worse.

desi
09-08-07, 11:30 PM
No it isn't. I'm anti-welfare even.

I'm not anti welfare and ramen noodles cost 15 cents where I live. A couple of those and a can of peas and you get calories for a day and a pound of motivation to get a job.

Orleander
09-09-07, 03:01 PM
so, did anyone sign up for it? Does anyone think they could do it? I'm really considering it.

Nasor
09-09-07, 05:14 PM
[I]$21 per week (http://www.michiganfoodstampchallenge.org/) per person is all you get.

That’s all the average food stamp recipient gets. Three dollars a day, just $1 per meal.Can you imagine feeding your 14-year old growing son on that amount?


Three points here:
First, it's assumed that most people on food stamps will still be spending some of their own money on food. The average is $1/meal because the average person makes enough that they are expected to still pay for some of each meal on their own. If you are actually getting all of our food money from the food stamps, you will be getting more than $1/meal.

Second, $1/meal is enough to eat pretty well.

Breakfast:
2 slices of toast - about 5 cents/slice
2 eggs - about 10 cents/egg
1 small orange - about 50 cents
8 oz. glass or milk - about 20 cents marginal cost

That's not a bad breakfast...

Third, if you're willing to live off rice, beans, and a daily multi-vitamin, you can eat for practically nothing while still getting plenty of calories, protein, and other nutrients. Granted, you will probably get tired of beans and rice very quickly - but you won't be hungry and it will be a healthy diet. I am perfectly willing to have my tax dollars spent to buy food for poor people who can't feed themselves. But I'm not sure how willing I am to have my money spent on interesting food poor people. I mean, yeah, people shouldn't starve, and I'm happy to help with that. But once I'm paying enough to keep them healthy, my generosity regarding buying food for others begins to decline quickly.

Michael
09-09-07, 07:23 PM
Could you do it? I don't know if we could. Breakfast/Lunch for the kids would be taken care of by the schools M-F. We'd be living on potatoes and eggs. And there would be no leftovers or food in the garbage. Lots of veggie soup.
Dang! For my family that's only $3 a day per person. I grew up on welfare as a kid. Hated it but that's life when a single mom doens't want to work.

Anyway, back then the State also gave a lot of free food as well. Free milk, free butter, free flour, maybe even cheap eggs. So the food stamps are for other things, like to be traded for cigarettes if I remember correctly. Also, isn't there actual real money given out as well as the rent and heating and such also covered?

Michael
09-09-07, 07:27 PM
Oh, and I grew up in Michigan

Grantywanty
09-10-07, 03:27 AM
I like it. Plus MIchigan's a good state for that sort of thing - plenty of fresh produce. I need to head down to a Farmer's Market this weekend for some cheap veggies.

Food stamps are supposed to be help from the government, not total support.

And wars should be about justice not about free hand outs to oil companies, security firms and arms manufacturers or post-civil service jobs for cabinet members.
Oddly enough most of the big problems today are caused by people with a lot of power and not those with very little. But keep cutting the corners on those with very little power and forget about the vast sums stolen by the powerful, whatever.

Orleander
09-10-07, 09:41 AM
..back then the State also gave a lot of free food as well. Free milk, free butter, free flour, maybe even cheap eggs....

I forgot about the free gvmt food. Lentils, rice, powdered milk, peanut butter, big cans of tuna, and that cheese. Growing up next to a reservation, that stuff was always for sale somewhere.

And I already blew my $3 for the day. Damn iced mocha!:mad: I guess I'm just gonna have to use leftovers tonight.

Michael
09-10-07, 06:52 PM
powdered milkOMG I hated that stuff! I mean really, powered milk is almost oxymoronic. I remember eating boiled rice with powdered milk :puke:

I don't remember cans of tuna? But I did eat tuna with that crap called "miracle" whip. My god that was awful. I do like tuna with mayo. So maybe we did get tuna?

Hmmm oh peanut butter and carrots - now there was a treat :)


I would skip the iced mocha if I were you. I think the only drink that is consumable at a fast-food cafe' would be a mocha (hold the whipped foam/"cream") because they use coco instead of syrup. Everything else is sugar flavored syrup. Yuck!


Michael

Xev
09-10-07, 07:07 PM
Oddly enough most of the big problems today are caused by people with a lot of power and not those with very little. But keep cutting the corners on those with very little power and forget about the vast sums stolen by the powerful, whatever.

Corporations work hard lobbying the government for pork-barrel contracts, so I don't think it's fair to take money from the starving daughters of corporate executives just to feed fat people on welfare.

But then, I'm not heartless like you are.

Orleander
09-10-07, 08:22 PM
...I remember eating boiled rice with powdered milk :puke:...

OMG!!! Boiled rice, milk and raisins for breakfast. I remember it well.