Mercury metals and the giant fridge ship? Could we walk on the sun?

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Smoke Shoe Water, Mar 28, 2003.

  1. Smoke Shoe Water Registered Member

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    It is my folly! Mercury! Is for me! Mercury! is poetry! Not like Uranus!

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    Anyway, on a slightly more serious note... wouldn't you think that's there, where we should go to find the most (heat-)resistant metals?

    Then we could walk onto the sun, and find how this fusion thing works... I mean not theorically, but more in details...

    There is this one other thing I've been wondering...Why not build a giant fridge with a cooling circuit that cools its hull...and it catches the sunray's energy and reconverts it into the cooling circuit... (I have to admit it, I don’t really exactly know how fridges work, something about methane…I forgot…)
    Or even better, use the heat, to reconvert it into cooling power... could it be possible? Or would some components over-heat and explode and the whole ship melt appart?
    That way we can extract parts of the sun, and suck them into fusion reactors which capt all the energy of these bits of molten fusioning magma..
    Then again, speaking of magma, we'd have to try it with the earth's core first...

    Don’t tell me… I know I’m better off on a Sci-fi forum… but then I want to know how bad this idea is… thanks for your enlightened criticism!
     
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  3. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    Do you think we will find metals on mercury that we not find on earth? Melting point and other properties of these metals are pretty well understood by now...On earth we can even make superheavy transuranium metals that we don't find in nature, in the lab ....

    Your fridge would have to be of astronomical proportions and also the impact of gamma radiation would have to be overcome
     
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  5. Smoke Shoe Water Registered Member

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    Actually I've been looking a bit more at stuff about it, and a probe visited it in 74, and it has a temperature of 400 degrees in the day, and 180 in the night... The probe went around it three times... and they don't say whether it melted in space or was just left to dwell...

    So I guess, the self-cooling ship would have to be used to land there... and whether there are interesting materials just has to be checked.

    And I don't think human beings would want to be there... they'd probably combust... unless we can make a self-cooling ship and self-cooling suits...

    Whether we can do everything in our labs has to be checked... We haven't made synthetic gold so far, or synthetic diamonds either, which makes the whole point, that there are things in nature that we can't synthesize... correct me if I'm wrong...
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Actually because of Mercury’s density the planet most likely has a much higher quantity of mineable rare “earth” elements like Platinum, Gold, Uranium so forth…

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  8. blankc Your superior Registered Senior Member

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    Well be lucky getting a space suit to work in the temperature and pressure of venus' surface. We'd probably have to stay on the dark/night side of mercury. And to walk on the sun, well you can guess.
     
  9. Fafnir665 You just got served. Registered Senior Member

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    we shouldnt even bother with that point, the gravity would kill you
     
  10. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    No it would not because there would be no solid ground to be crushed against. Instead you would fall into a void of increasingly denser and hotter plasma… for the sake of a quick death try not to armor your self so you will vaporize more quickly.

    At 90 times earth atmospheric pressure and temputuere of ~850°F I don’t think anyone will be waking on Venus… Unless they terraform it, which will only be possible by pumping out its atmosphere via wormholes or something like that. We could live just above the clouds rather well, the temp. and pressure is livable up there and there is no SO2 either. Did you know that as of yet no organic test have been done on the cloud particles in Venus? Could they be biological? Read the book Venus Revealed
     
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  11. quest2003 Registered Member

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    as there is missing elements on the periodic table that we havnt yet found them but know they exsist. so other metals beyond the capabilities of the current alloys is possible!! but the only radiation proof is lead at this time to give protection to gamma radiation!!
     
  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Aah No, no element beyond 82 exist in any reasonable quantities in are solar system, I had to do with circumstances of the Type II Nova that are atoms where created in.
     

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