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Anarcho Union
05-24-10, 01:08 PM
Are ussaly consedered gay or weird. Which I think is, to be blunt, stupid.
Such as myself. I wear black eyeliner and eyeshadow. I am a heterosexual with an amazingly beautiful girlfriend. Why do I do it? For artistic and personal reasons, and I just love the way it looks. I have fun doing my eyes. Why is it that people see men who wear make up gay?

cosmictraveler
05-24-10, 01:25 PM
You know there are many different people in this world that dress, behave and act differently than you do. If you cannot put up with their "ways" then it is YOU who have a very deep problem and should seek professional help as soon as possible.

spidergoat
05-24-10, 02:48 PM
Either gay or a douchebag.

Ahem
05-24-10, 03:08 PM
Are ussaly consedered gay or weird. Which I think is, to be blunt, stupid.
Such as myself. I wear black eyeliner and eyeshadow. I am a heterosexual with an amazingly beautiful girlfriend. Why do I do it? For artistic and personal reasons, and I just love the way it looks. I have fun doing my eyes. Why is it that people see men who wear make up gay?

The reason people see men who wear make up as gay is because men who wear make up are either gay or about to go on stage.

Personally, on the right face, I love men in eyeliner. It's very sexy looking, and does make a statement. You're either gay, or in the entertainment industry. Best example: Adam Lambert, who is a gay entertainer. (I LOVE HIS STYLE)

PsychoTropicPuppy
05-24-10, 03:32 PM
Hmm..unless you're an artist who's about to go on stage, or doing a performance it really does seem not very manly to me. Call me an ass for being so shallow..but that's how I perceive it. On the other hand, it really depends on how, how much, etc, and most importantly who. Not every guy looks like a queer with make up. :0

Tiassa
05-24-10, 03:49 PM
I would only point out the underlying theme of men and makeup: Women are supposed to look pretty. Men are not. That's why it looks "gay" for a man to wear makeup.

Therein lies the problem.

Personally, I'm not a fan of makeup. No, I don't mind things like eye liner, but over the years, it's gotten to the point that I just can't deal with it. In a novel, one might write about how he "kissed her all over", but, frankly, at some point that might mean a mouthful of makeup. Seriously. Foundation, these days, reminds me of pancake. Seriously, I ran into a woman (almost literally) at a 7-Eleven yesterday, and she was almost cute: well-shaped, and making efforts to show off her body. Pretty good ass in those jeans, you know? And that tight, ribbed shirt accentuated the contours of her breasts. She was definitely tryingto show off her "assets". But as I came to the door and she emerged, I found myself looking into her eyes. Or, I would have, had my attention not been occupied by the gawdawful dark eye shadow that was sort of fishscale black and green and blue, and the thick layer of foundation that made her face look completely artificial. I can't describe the color, except with words like mutant, robust, and inhuman. Still, though, for nouveau skanque, her profile and departure looked pretty good. You know, the epitome of the old joke about doing her from behind, or with the lights off.

siledre
05-24-10, 10:38 PM
there are lots of usage for makeup, like evil captain kirk when yoeman rand scratched him, he used makeup to cover them up.

wellsiteguy
05-25-10, 12:49 AM
Eddie Izzard.

S.A.M.
05-25-10, 12:53 AM
In India there is a tradition of men wearing makeup for dance. And its common for rural men in the north of the country to wear surma or kohl made by burning oil and collecting soot.

This is a traditional kohl pot: the soot is in the container and the rod is dipped in it to collect the soot which is then gently applied between closed eyelids

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a5/Somali-Kohlpot.jpg/175px-Somali-Kohlpot.jpg

This was probably adopted from Afghans or Kurds or Persians, since they have similar kohl pots

Here is a Kurdish kohl pot

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Killedan.jpg/300px-Killedan.jpg

iceaura
05-25-10, 02:31 AM
I prefer women without makeup as well - barring stage roles.

One of the interesting aspects of doing back country field work in a science is that the women involved, if any, seldom wear makeup and are usually reasonably attractive (fit, for the rigors of the work, at least). Upon returning to civilization, my first impression is often that the ordinary downtown office worker looks like a girl dressed as a hooker for Halloween. They look garish, cartoonish, staged.

That's on top of the barrier effect - the obvious put-off of touch, from the projection of what all that crap would feel like. The impression that one is hiding grime or grease or acne or something. etc.

Men primp, but too fastidious a primp job - let alone makeup on one's face - bespeaks a visual priority that seems aimed at the male gaze.

phlogistician
05-25-10, 03:26 AM
Why is it that people see men who wear make up gay?

Because it is pretty gay.

Look, you wear makeup because I guess you are into the EMO subculture, which is rather effete (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/effete), ((1,3) being most apt in this case I think) and you play with the whole androgynous/bisexual thing.

Maybe you don't understand the fashion you have adopted has those goals, but mostly people follow fashion rather than understand it's first cause, but EMO is a deliberate attempt to look a bit gay, a bit feminine. It's not challenging society on the issue of men wearing makeup, EMOs aren't that political. It's a deliberate attempt to provoke a reaction. When KISS, Alice Cooper, Dee Snider, and the masses of punk bands wore makeup, that was their goal too. A bunch of EMOs aren't going to change decades of aggression expressed through stage makeup.

quadraphonics
05-25-10, 01:24 PM
One of the interesting aspects of doing back country field work in a science is that the women involved, if any, seldom wear makeup and are usually reasonably attractive

The kicker there (and in engineering) is the "if any" clause...

sandy
05-25-10, 01:29 PM
I think makeup on men is creepy unless it is a little bit of well-blended concealer. Adam Lambert looks like a freak.
I don't wear much--don't need it. Women with horrible skin should, but it should not be like a clown.

visceral_instinct
05-25-10, 01:38 PM
I don't mind makeup on men. At least not on some of the metal dudes I knew who could wear dark eyeliner and still look rough and masculine, :D

Lori_7
05-25-10, 02:03 PM
i don't necessarily like an attempt to look feminine, but to look good. i like it when a guy gives a shit about his appearance, and fashion. from hairdos, to clothes, to tattoos, to nail polish and makeup. it's rock n roll, it's punk rock, and it's hot.

Fraggle Rocker
05-25-10, 06:26 PM
This was probably adopted from Afghans or Kurds or Persians, since they have similar kohl pots.They also share the same ancestry. Perhaps kohl pots go back that far.

Lori_7
05-25-10, 10:33 PM
look at this guy for example...davey havok. he always looks good. i could eat him up with no silverware,,,just nibbles and licks.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26b%3D81%26ni%3 D20%26va%3Ddavey%2Bhavok%26xargs%3D0%26pstart%3D1% 26fr%3Dush-news&w=500&h=375&imgurl=farm4.static.flickr.com%2F3056%2F2898511417 _56a1e3859c.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fscream itoutloud%2F2898511417%2F&size=54k&name=i+m+waiting+for+...&p=davey+havok&oid=872c1db9a9f2bfc4&fr2=&fusr=cяαsн+ℓσvє+ι...&no=95&tt=16877&b=81&ni=20&sigr=11olti7ku&sigi=11m5dcnvc&sigb=13jqcded4

Lori_7
05-25-10, 10:39 PM
look at him...his hair is in a nice style, he's wearing cool clothes, holding a stuffed animal, his nails are polished, and he's wearing makeup. he looks damn good. that guy wouldn't have time to be gay around me...

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w77/StaySweetllyNumb/DaveyHavok015.jpg

Lori_7
05-25-10, 11:10 PM
great hair, glam earrings, nails manicured. great suit. purrrr....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz__wHVCNng&feature=channel

phlogistician
05-26-10, 08:19 AM
look at this guy for example...davey havok.

http://www.emohair.org.uk/emo_hair_pics/davey_havok_b.jpg

Looks gay. Looks pretty terrible for a 34 year old too. I guess that's why he wears the slap.

sifreak21
05-26-10, 09:15 AM
look at this guy for example...davey havok. he always looks good. i could eat him up with no silverware,,,just nibbles and licks.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26b%3D81%26ni%3 D20%26va%3Ddavey%2Bhavok%26xargs%3D0%26pstart%3D1% 26fr%3Dush-news&w=500&h=375&imgurl=farm4.static.flickr.com%2F3056%2F2898511417 _56a1e3859c.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fscream itoutloud%2F2898511417%2F&size=54k&name=i+m+waiting+for+...&p=davey+havok&oid=872c1db9a9f2bfc4&fr2=&fusr=cяαsн+ℓσvє+ι...&no=95&tt=16877&b=81&ni=20&sigr=11olti7ku&sigi=11m5dcnvc&sigb=13jqcded4

how? the dude wears makeup, nailpolish and gets his hair done looks "gay" to me.. woman are biologically wired to go for certin things in a man this guy has none of them besides femanin appeal

Lori_7
05-26-10, 09:57 AM
how? the dude wears makeup, nailpolish and gets his hair done looks "gay" to me.. woman are biologically wired to go for certin things in a man this guy has none of them besides femanin appeal

As a biologically wired woman, I whole heartedly disagree.

Lori_7
05-26-10, 10:06 AM
http://www.emohair.org.uk/emo_hair_pics/davey_havok_b.jpg

Looks gay. Looks pretty terrible for a 34 year old too. I guess that's why he wears the slap.

I think he looks beautiful and extremely healthy. The makeup doesn't really serve to show off his health, but if you look at him without so much on you can see, he has a beautiful muscular body, beautiful eyes, teeth, skin and hair. He doesn't smoke or drink, and he's a vegan. Purrr...

visceral_instinct
05-26-10, 10:13 AM
http://www.emohair.org.uk/emo_hair_pics/davey_havok_b.jpg

Looks gay. Looks pretty terrible for a 34 year old too. I guess that's why he wears the slap.

He'd be sexy if he grew a small beard or at least some stubble. I don't like when men have very smooth faces.

Lori_7
05-26-10, 10:34 AM
He'd be sexy if he grew a small beard or at least some stubble. I don't like when men have very smooth faces.

He's been wearing a five o'clock shadow lately, and it does look very good.

sifreak21
05-26-10, 10:35 AM
As a biologically wired woman, I whole heartedly disagree.

its really not up for debate its how you are wired on the inside subconsious level

wouldnt be suprised if that guy had daddy issues when he was growing up

Lori_7
05-26-10, 10:40 AM
its really not up for debate its how you are wired on the inside subconsious level

wouldnt be suprised if that guy had daddy issues when he was growing up

I like diversity and originality, indivuduality in expression and appearance. I like art and fashion. I think it takes a lot of balls for a man to put on false eyelashes. I've heard he has a big penis too.

PsychoTropicPuppy
05-26-10, 10:51 AM
O_o and what does the guy want to tell us by wearing false eyelashes, and ugly blue eyeshadow? And the haircut looks..loltastic.

I've got more respect for the transvestites(cage aux folles), than this..wannabe special.

Lori_7
05-26-10, 11:02 AM
O_o and what does the guy want to tell us by wearing false eyelashes, and ugly blue eyeshadow? And the haircut looks..loltastic.

I've got more respect for the transvestites(cage aux folles), than this..wannabe special.

OMG I LOVE HIS HAIR! you're trippin'. it's glam man...it's rock n roll. and check the vintage duran duran tee he's wearing...very nice.

and imo, he's telling us he's very comfortable with his sexuality, and confident.

John99
05-26-10, 11:05 AM
OMG I LOVE HIS HAIR! you're trippin'. it's glam man...it's rock n roll. and check the vintage duran duran tee he's wearing...very nice.

and imo, he's telling us he's very comfortable with his sexuality, and confident.

i dont see what the big deal is either. Reminds me of what someone told me many years ago - 'just worry about yourself'

Lori_7
05-26-10, 11:07 AM
i dont see what the big deal is either. Reminds me of what someone told me many years ago - 'just worry about yourself'

that's right...because there's no one else like you in the whole world. :)

stateofmind
05-26-10, 11:43 AM
I really liked AFI before decemberunderground came out. They were original and had an awesome sound. Well, even on decemberunderground jade had some cool guitar parts... but their new stuff is just terrible. Beautiful theives... garbage!

I get the feeling they're more interested in fashion and photoshoots these days than music.

sifreak21
05-26-10, 12:28 PM
I like diversity and originality, indivuduality in expression and appearance. I like art and fashion. I think it takes a lot of balls for a man to put on false eyelashes. I've heard he has a big penis too.

big penis on a man dictates how attractive physically he is right?
people like this have had daddy issues problems in home growing up or are confused about there sexuality

stateofmind
05-26-10, 12:33 PM
big penis on a man dictates how attractive physically he is right?
people like this have had daddy issues problems in home growing up or are confused about there sexuality

I don't think its that simple.

Lori_7
05-26-10, 12:49 PM
I really liked AFI before decemberunderground came out. They were original and had an awesome sound. Well, even on decemberunderground jade had some cool guitar parts... but their new stuff is just terrible. Beautiful theives... garbage!

I get the feeling they're more interested in fashion and photoshoots these days than music.

i like it. they're always changing their sound, with each record they have, and even though it sounds different than the last, it still sounds good.

Lori_7
05-26-10, 12:52 PM
big penis on a man dictates how attractive physically he is right?
people like this have had daddy issues problems in home growing up or are confused about there sexuality

he's not confused about his sexuality, he just doesn't equate makeup with sexuality like some people apparently do.

and it's not necessarily about physical attraction. it's more like, "i don't care what the boring boys think."

Lori_7
05-26-10, 12:54 PM
scott weiland's glam. he wears makeup and nail polish and feather boas. he's not gay or feminine. he's just hot.

sifreak21
05-26-10, 12:59 PM
scott weiland's glam. he wears makeup and nail polish and feather boas. he's not gay or feminine. he's just hot.

all of the people your talking about most likely had issues growing up or are confused about sexuality

Lori_7
05-26-10, 01:03 PM
all of the people your talking about most likely had issues growing up or are confused about sexuality

that's absolutely not true. as a matter of fact, i would be more inclined to believe that it is someone who is insecure about their sexuality who has the issues. men like scott and davey are definitely not insecure about their masculinity, otherwise they would never have the guts to push the boundaries.

sifreak21
05-26-10, 01:05 PM
that's absolutely not true. as a matter of fact, i would be more inclined to believe that it is someone who is insecure about their sexuality who has the issues. men like scott and davey are definitely not insecure about their masculinity, otherwise they would never have the guts to push the boundaries.

guts to push the boundries or severe mental problems that aroze from a rough childhood? so your saying if i go to holly wood all the guys prancing around arnot gay or confused just not insecure about there masculinity?

Lori_7
05-26-10, 01:06 PM
i think that if you are the one who is uncomfortable with their look, then it is you who has the issue. everybody has issues, but in this particular regard, you're the one who is uncomfortable with their appearance.

Lori_7
05-26-10, 01:10 PM
guts to push the boundries or severe mental problems that aroze from a rough childhood? so your saying if i go to holly wood all the guys prancing around arnot gay or confused just not insecure about there masculinity?

neither of these men are gay, and both have a bevy of hotties who would love to have sex with them. and they're both world-reknown artists...prolific, immensely talented, successful, and wealthy. scott's an addict, but other than that, nothing smells of mental illness here.

sifreak21
05-26-10, 01:10 PM
i think that if you are the one who is uncomfortable with their look, then it is you who has the issue. everybody has issues, but in this particular regard, you're the one who is uncomfortable with their appearance.

well this conversation is now ended, you have attacked me for some unknown reason and where this conclusion came from is unknown.

Lori_7
05-26-10, 01:11 PM
davey's mommy wouldn't let him get a mohawk when he was young and it pissed him off. seriously, he wrote a song about it. lol...

Lori_7
05-26-10, 01:13 PM
well this conversation is now ended, you have attacked me for some unknown reason and where this conclusion came from is unknown.

i'm not attacking you, i'm just trying to get you to see it from a different perspective. i think you're assuming alot of things about some people that you really don't know are true or not.

don't be mad. go put on some eyeliner. :D

Omega133
05-26-10, 01:18 PM
Because it is pretty gay.

Really? Gene Simmons wore it, and we all know what he's famous for.


Look, you wear makeup because I guess you are into the EMO subculture, which is rather effete (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/effete), ((1,3) being most apt in this case I think) and you play with the whole androgynous/bisexual thing.

I know Psycho Bound in real life. He isn't emo.


When KISS, Alice Cooper, Dee Snider, and the masses of punk bands

WAY worng. KISS is a metal band, Alice Cooper is a metal artist, and Twisted Sister is a metal band. You may want to look up what punk rock is, and compare it to metal. There are very few similarities.


wore makeup, that was their goal too.

Really? So I guess Gene Simmons, who is married, is bisexual? Or Alice Cooper who is married and has a daughter?

Lori_7
05-26-10, 01:26 PM
flip through some of these pics...

http://www.fanpix.net/gallery/gerard-way-pictures.htm

how hot is gerard way? way hot. he's always worn makeup, and changed his hair, and he's always dressed well. he's very theatrical, and MCR fucking rock out with their cocks out. they are so good.

and he's married to the very sexy rocker lyn z from msi. they just had a baby. :)

Fraggle Rocker
05-26-10, 06:12 PM
all of the people your talking about most likely had issues growing up or are confused about sexualityAnd when did you get your PhD in psychology?
well this conversation is now ended, you have attacked me for some unknown reason and where this conclusion came from is unknown.* * * * NOTE FROM THE MODERATOR * * * *

No actually, the criticism was well within reason, considering the trash you've been spouting. When somebody acts like a dick, it's okay if somebody else points it out. You insulted the people who are being discussed here, without knowing any more about them than you read in the tabloids. Now someone has insulted you just as spuriously. How did it feel?

PsychoTropicPuppy
05-27-10, 01:25 PM
So, to show that I'm comfortable with my sexuality I have to start wearing what the other gender wears?
So a guy who wears the typically manly clothes, no makeup...doesn't feel sexually comfortable, nor confident?

Do I really have to walk around like a tranny to be considered as sexually confident, and etc.?

Fraggle Rocker
05-27-10, 04:34 PM
So, to show that I'm comfortable with my sexuality I have to start wearing what the other gender wears? So a guy who wears the typically manly clothes, no makeup...doesn't feel sexually comfortable, nor confident? Do I really have to walk around like a tranny to be considered as sexually confident, and etc.?There's a lot of ingorance about sexuality in our country, and apparently a couple of those people have shown up on this thread.

Many people assume that homosexual and transsexual are the same thing.

superstring01
05-27-10, 04:40 PM
Either gay or a douchebag.

LOL!

I couldn't agree more.

Which is a totally personal feeling, and I fully respect any person's right to do what they want to themselves. But. . . but. . . guys who wear makeup are. . . .um. . . weird. [says the gay guy]

~String

phlogistician
05-28-10, 05:12 AM
WAY worng. KISS is a metal band, Alice Cooper is a metal artist, and Twisted Sister is a metal band. You may want to look up what punk rock is, and compare it to metal. There are very few similarities.

Jesus, learn to read and comprehend. I was not saying Kiss et al we re punk. There was a conjunction in that sentence, see, got it? Good.



Really? So I guess Gene Simmons, who is married, is bisexual? Or Alice Cooper who is married and has a daughter?

Missing my point entirely. It was stage makeup. Do you think Gene Simmons goes to the market in his stage wear? No. EMO kiddies wear their eye liner to the mall. When Punks wore makeup in public, it was to ostracise themselves, to underline their rejection of mainstream society. Get a clue kid.

phlogistician
05-28-10, 05:15 AM
I think he looks beautiful and extremely healthy. The makeup doesn't really serve to show off his health, but if you look at him without so much on you can see, he has a beautiful muscular body, beautiful eyes, teeth, skin and hair. He doesn't smoke or drink, and he's a vegan. Purrr...

He has bad skin, and has more wrinkles than I have, and I'm 42.

Cowboy
05-28-10, 05:22 AM
You know there are many different people in this world that dress, behave and act differently than you do. If you cannot put up with their "ways" then it is YOU who have a very deep problem and should seek professional help as soon as possible.

Thinking something is weird or stupid doesn't mean you aren't willing or able to coexist with it.

Lori_7
05-28-10, 06:49 AM
He has bad skin, and has more wrinkles than I have, and I'm 42.

Your eyes are going. He doesn't. Trust me, I've stared at pics of him for hours on end and been front row a couple of times. You're trippin.

Lori_7
05-28-10, 06:53 AM
So, to show that I'm comfortable with my sexuality I have to start wearing what the other gender wears?
So a guy who wears the typically manly clothes, no makeup...doesn't feel sexually comfortable, nor confident?

Do I really have to walk around like a tranny to be considered as sexually confident, and etc.?

Be yourself. Wear what you want. That's the whole point. It would be boring if everyone looked alike.

PsychoTropicPuppy
05-28-10, 11:54 AM
There's a lot of ingorance about sexuality in our country, and apparently a couple of those people have shown up on this thread.

Many people assume that homosexual and transsexual are the same thing.

Are you one of those people? I fear that transsexualism and transvestism are hardly the same.

Anarcho Union
05-28-10, 12:52 PM
Missing my point entirely. It was stage makeup. Do you think Gene Simmons goes to the market in his stage wear? No. EMO kiddies wear their eye liner to the mall. When Punks wore makeup in public, it was to ostracise themselves, to underline their rejection of mainstream society. Get a clue kid.

I havent been to the mall in.... shit, ever?
I hate the emo subculture. I wear it for the very reason to show the rejection of mainstream society, and keep preps, and ignorent SOBs away from me (it works.) Plus, it looks damn good and I LOVE playing with make-up

Anarcho Union
05-28-10, 12:54 PM
And thank you Lori, for not being ignorent. Its nice to see people who have a sense of indivsualism in them :)

PsychoTropicPuppy
05-28-10, 04:22 PM
So, you can only show your individualism through make up? Mainstream society..I wonder what makes you better (other than the fact that you like to play with make up) than those ignorant sobs and preps from the mainstream society? What gives it that you're less ignorant than those sobs and preps? Oh..yeah, the eyeliner it was. If it's just the make up..well then..*grats* You've made it on the top list of pseudo individualists.

phlogistician
05-28-10, 04:41 PM
Your eyes are going. He doesn't. Trust me, I've stared at pics of him for hours on end and been front row a couple of times. You're trippin.

You ain't seen me though darling. I'm older, and better looking than that sad sack. That's just the truth. Sorry.

phlogistician
05-28-10, 04:43 PM
Plus, it looks damn good and I LOVE playing with make-up

Yeah, sure;

http://top10kid.com/wp-content/uploads/emo.jpg

Lori_7
05-28-10, 05:09 PM
You ain't seen me though darling. I'm older, and better looking than that sad sack. That's just the truth. Sorry.

Prove it. Let's see some evidence.

phlogistician
05-28-10, 05:25 PM
Prove it. Let's see some evidence.

OK, this is a little bit old;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2879072&l=f6eedd861d&id=533047900

But it's a photo booth for a travel pass, not professionally lit or shit.

OK, and this one;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?op=3&view=global&subj=533047900&pid=8441646&id=862280284

Orleander
05-28-10, 08:39 PM
Are ussaly consedered gay or weird. Which I think is, to be blunt, stupid.
Such as myself. I wear black eyeliner and eyeshadow. I am a heterosexual with an amazingly beautiful girlfriend. Why do I do it? For artistic and personal reasons, and I just love the way it looks. I have fun doing my eyes. Why is it that people see men who wear make up gay?

I have bigger issues with people who tattoo every inch of their bodies, pierce/gauge everything, and then whine about not being able to get a job. Or complain about people staring at them.

What do they expect? :shrug:

If a man wears make-up he has to know he's gonna get a reaction.

Lori_7
05-28-10, 11:03 PM
OK, this is a little bit old;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2879072&l=f6eedd861d&id=533047900

But it's a photo booth for a travel pass, not professionally lit or shit.

OK, and this one;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?op=3&view=global&subj=533047900&pid=8441646&id=862280284

Dude you are nowhere near 42 in that 1st pic and the 2nd link was unavailable. And if you do still look anything like you did in the 1st pic, you have no room to talk about makeup or looking feminine, because even without makeup, you look like a girl.

Is that why you're so bitter?

Hahahaha.

"god made me look like a girl; I hate him!"

Hahaha.

:)

Lori_7
05-28-10, 11:09 PM
I have bigger issues with people who tattoo every inch of their bodies, pierce/gauge everything, and then whine about not being able to get a job. Or complain about people staring at them.

What do they expect? :shrug:

If a man wears make-up he has to know he's gonna get a reaction.

Don't you think its silly though that tatoos or piercings would prohibit anyone from performing a job they were qualified for and good at? It makes no sense, other than to glorify or submit to some old, fat, white boys club. Fuck them. They're on the verge of extinction.

Omega133
05-28-10, 11:13 PM
Jesus, learn to read and comprehend. I was not saying Kiss et al we re punk. There was a conjunction in that sentence, see, got it? Good.

That was my bad, but insulting me was not neccessary.


Get a clue kid.

Was this statement really neccesary? Just because I didn't understand a post doesn't mean I don't understand anything.

Lori_7
05-28-10, 11:41 PM
That was my bad, but insulting me was not neccessary.



Was this statement really neccesary? Just because I didn't understand a post doesn't mean I don't understand anything.

Don't mind him. You can imagine how much hostility and frustration would result from being reapeatedly hit on by lesbians, until they found out you were really a guy much to their dismay. "I hate you for being so pretty and having a penis (though small I'm guessing)!"

And they're all like, "well maybe if its really small, its ok." and him all confused like, "mommy, help."

Lori_7
05-28-10, 11:52 PM
OK, this is a little bit old;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2879072&l=f6eedd861d&id=533047900

But it's a photo booth for a travel pass, not professionally lit or shit.

OK, and this one;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?op=3&view=global&subj=533047900&pid=8441646&id=862280284

You look angry phlog. Are you angry? Are you as mean to some people in your real life as you are to some out here? Do you smile? What makes you smile?

phlogistician
05-29-10, 03:42 AM
You look angry phlog. Are you angry? Are you as mean to some people in your real life as you are to some out here? Do you smile? What makes you smile?

Knowing I am not slave to an imaginary sky pixie makes me smile.

phlogistician
05-29-10, 03:46 AM
Don't mind him. You can imagine how much hostility and frustration would result from being reapeatedly hit on by lesbians,

If you think I look like a girl, don't you think I'd have got hit on by guys? Why would I as a heterosexual male, hang out in places where there were lots of lesbians, you have abandoned sense Lori. Oh, of course, you, being you,what could I hope for?

But as it happens, having 13" biceps, a 42"" chest, and 17" neck, nobody ever made that error. I'm a guy, no mistake.

Lori_7
05-29-10, 08:16 AM
Knowing I am not slave to an imaginary sky pixie makes me smile.

I don't believe you.

Anti-Flag
05-29-10, 11:44 PM
People think it's gay because of "gay tendancies" - of course not everybody who exhibits them (and I'd imagine everybody exhibits some minor ones at some point in their lives) is actually gay, but statistically we'd find some things are rather common, like men who enjoy playing with makeup, showtunes, and male hairdressers being gay.
That does not mean they are all gay, and it does not mean all gay men fit into the above catagories.
And before anyone suggests it, it also does not mean we should all get in touch with our metrosexual/crab people side.

Anarcho Union
06-01-10, 12:14 PM
So, you can only show your individualism through make up? Mainstream society..I wonder what makes you better (other than the fact that you like to play with make up) than those ignorant sobs and preps from the mainstream society? What gives it that you're less ignorant than those sobs and preps? Oh..yeah, the eyeliner it was. If it's just the make up..well then..*grats* You've made it on the top list of pseudo individualists.

Did I ever say that was the only way? Putting words in ones mouth, just shows that the words I acctualy said defeated your logic

Anarcho Union
06-01-10, 12:16 PM
I have bigger issues with people who tattoo every inch of their bodies, pierce/gauge everything, and then whine about not being able to get a job. Or complain about people staring at them.

What do they expect? :shrug:

If a man wears make-up he has to know he's gonna get a reaction.

I completely agree. Im all up for this type of lifestyle, and I accept the things that happen because of it.

Thoreau
06-01-10, 03:47 PM
Are ussaly consedered gay or weird. Which I think is, to be blunt, stupid.
Such as myself. I wear black eyeliner and eyeshadow. I am a heterosexual with an amazingly beautiful girlfriend. Why do I do it? For artistic and personal reasons, and I just love the way it looks. I have fun doing my eyes.

And maybe the fact that you're like 13 or something?

EDIT: Excuse me. I forgot... you're 15, not 13.

Anarcho Union
06-03-10, 11:49 AM
And maybe the fact that you're like 13 or something?

EDIT: Excuse me. I forgot... you're 15, not 13.

Does my age have ANYTHING to do with this topic? Fishing for reasons to discredit my opionion is also a sign of weakness and defeat

Thoreau
06-03-10, 12:33 PM
Does my age have ANYTHING to do with this topic? Fishing for reasons to discredit my opionion is also a sign of weakness and defeat

Actually it does. With age comes maturity. With maturity comes outgrowing insecurities (like wearing makeup). The idea that people put on makeup to express themselves is far from the truth. They typically do it for one of two reasons: A) Hide their natural self. B) Present themselves as something they're not.

Compare the number of teenage boys who wear makeup to the number of middle-aged men who wear make up. The answer is self-explanitory.

EDIT: And I didn't have to "fish" for my reasoning. You don't have to look for the obvious. Defeat? How in God's green Earth have I been defeated in this discussion?
:roflmao:

Anarcho Union
06-03-10, 01:14 PM
Actually it does. With age comes maturity. With maturity comes outgrowing insecurities (like wearing makeup). The idea that people put on makeup to express themselves is far from the truth. They typically do it for one of two reasons: A) Hide their natural self. B) Present themselves as something they're not.

Compare the number of teenage boys who wear makeup to the number of middle-aged men who wear make up. The answer is self-explanitory.

EDIT: And I didn't have to "fish" for my reasoning. You don't have to look for the obvious. Defeat? How in God's green Earth have I been defeated in this discussion?
:roflmao:

The reason im able to wear makeup is because I have no insecurities.
Do you have any proof or evidence for those remarks? Thats not true at all.

Accutaly, theres more middle aged punk musicans then teenage, many of which wear make-up.

Thoreau
06-03-10, 01:17 PM
Do you have any proof or evidence for those remarks?

Yep; personal experience, common sense and evolution.


Accutaly, theres more middle aged punk musicans then teenage, many of which wear make-up.

Yes, punk musicians, which make up a tiny fraction of the human population.

Stryder
06-03-10, 02:07 PM
OK, this is a little bit old;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2879072&l=f6eedd861d&id=533047900

But it's a photo booth for a travel pass, not professionally lit or shit.

OK, and this one;

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?op=3&view=global&subj=533047900&pid=8441646&id=862280284

You didn't travel back with this guy:
http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/time-travel-want-advert.jpg (http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/02/08/time-travel-advertisement/)

Anarcho Union
06-04-10, 12:55 PM
Yep; personal experience, common sense and evolution.



Yes, punk musicians, which make up a tiny fraction of the human population.

Sorry, those "examples" listed dont offer me any solid proof of any sort.

That wasnt what was being contested

Lori_7
06-04-10, 01:29 PM
Actually it does. With age comes maturity. With maturity comes outgrowing insecurities (like wearing makeup). The idea that people put on makeup to express themselves is far from the truth. They typically do it for one of two reasons: A) Hide their natural self. B) Present themselves as something they're not.

Compare the number of teenage boys who wear makeup to the number of middle-aged men who wear make up. The answer is self-explanitory.

EDIT: And I didn't have to "fish" for my reasoning. You don't have to look for the obvious. Defeat? How in God's green Earth have I been defeated in this discussion?
:roflmao:

you're wrong on so many levels.

first of all, it has to do with culture, not age. and in our culture, while a maturity other than physical is debatable, conformity usually is not (unfortunately). not everyone can be a rock star, or an artist. young people just typically have more freedom (in some ways) than we old folks do.

secondly, fashion is absolutely a product of culture. glam rock becoming a part of the mainstream in the seventies; a rather recent trend that hasn't gone away.

thirdly, while it's accepted, even expected, for women to wear a certain amount of makeup that typically hide flaws and enhance natural beauty, men wear it for fun (fashion), it exaggerates not hides, and is not widely accepted. so your idea that men wear makeup because they're insecure doesn't add up. women maybe, but men, no. they're saying, "this is me. this is the way i like to look. and if you don't like it, fuck off." and i like that attitude. :)

John99
06-04-10, 01:39 PM
I have worn makeup on quite a few occasions. Being that i was in commercials and on t.v (from an early age) it didnt really mean anything to me. So i could care less. Not really into it now but then i would use it if i was up late and had circles.

Same for mud facials. Who cares?

Norsefire
06-04-10, 01:55 PM
It is pretty gay (no offense to homosexuals).

Though that doesn't mean you can't take care of yourself; I exfoliate; I get my eyebrows done; I take care of my looks.

But makeup? That's just too far. It's not manly.

John99
06-04-10, 02:06 PM
You have many stipulations and qualifiers there.

Thats like 'i paint my fingernails but not my toenails' or 'i have my right ear pierced but not my left ear'.

I cant be concerned with reading some rule book on this subject.

Norsefire
06-04-10, 02:13 PM
Not at all. What I do is grooming; make-up, however, is not.

John99
06-04-10, 02:15 PM
Not at all. What I do is grooming; make-up, however, is not.

If you were on t.v you would wear makeup or not be on t.v?

Lori_7
06-04-10, 02:20 PM
i've known more straight guys that wear makeup than gay guys that do.

however, i did accompany a gay friend to a duran duran show, and he sported electric blue eyeliner. he didn't wear the eyeliner because he's gay. he wore it because he was at a duran duran show, and it was entirely appropriate. and he looked damn good.

different scenario, say average joe is taking his girlfriend to a duran duran show, and she says, "hey, let me put some electric blue eyeliner on you honey! it'll be great!" and average joe is instantly mortified by the thought of some moron thinking he's gay because he's wearing eyeliner and says, "hell no."

OMG some moron thinks i'm gay because i'm wearing eyeliner! get it? THAT is insecurity.

Norsefire
06-04-10, 02:36 PM
If you were on t.v you would wear makeup or not be on t.v?

That's theatrical make-up and that isn't the same. I wear theatrical make-up on stage, but that's not make-up for women. It's not the same.

John99
06-04-10, 02:48 PM
It depends. Makeup for being on stage is different from makeup being in front of a camera. Sometimes they just touch up around the eyes and cover up some blemishes. I did the same for awhile in my early 20's when i would go out and wanted to look my best. I dont see anything wrong with it at all.

However, now i am completely natural and dont even use deodorant or shaving cream etc. I only use brown soap too.

Lori_7
06-04-10, 03:20 PM
It depends. Makeup for being on stage is different from makeup being in front of a camera. Sometimes they just touch up around the eyes and cover up some blemishes. I did the same for awhile in my early 20's when i would go out and wanted to look my best. I dont see anything wrong with it at all.

However, now i am completely natural and dont even use deodorant or shaving cream etc. I only use brown soap too.

damn hippie.

John99
06-04-10, 03:59 PM
damn hippie.

That one way to put it.:D

Michael
06-04-10, 06:56 PM
Either gay or a douchebag.笑 (warai) - ie: Japanese for LOL :D

:roflmao:

ScaryMonster
06-04-10, 09:02 PM
http://gothichairstyles.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/man-goth.jpg

Need I say more?

Fraggle Rocker
06-05-10, 05:36 PM
. . . . now I . . . . don't even use deodorant.Eww! I hope you bathe twice a day!

John99
06-05-10, 06:14 PM
Eww! I hope you bathe twice a day!

Not really. People have told me i smell but then if it is from sweating i dont really care too much.

TBH, if i didnt have a gf i would take showers two or three times a week but now to put on a front i take showers every day except i brush my teeth every day. I used to use only baking soda or salt if i had none but now i like Toms.

Orleander
06-05-10, 06:16 PM
Don't you think its silly though that tatoos or piercings would prohibit anyone from performing a job they were qualified for and good at? It makes no sense, other than to glorify or submit to some old, fat, white boys club. Fuck them. They're on the verge of extinction.

No I don't. Its called first impressions.
And what old, fat, white boys club are you talking about??? :shrug:

Lori_7
06-05-10, 06:35 PM
No I don't. Its called first impressions.
And what old, fat, white boys club are you talking about??? :shrug:

the guys that own everything and tell everybody what to do, and how they should look, and so on...

first impressions? i think it looks cool, and wouldn't even consider that it might have some effect on their ability to perform a job. why would it?

ironic...a guy with a comb-over giving a weird look to a guy with a mohawk.

Orleander
06-05-10, 06:37 PM
I agree they both look weird. And it would affect the outcome of me hiring them.

and I don't think guys own everything and tell everyone what to do and how to look. That's paranoid

Lori_7
06-05-10, 07:05 PM
I agree they both look weird. And it would affect the outcome of me hiring them.

why?


and I don't think guys own everything and tell everyone what to do and how to look. That's paranoid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_billionaires

what a good lookin' bunch! j/k

and they're not ALL white, and there is one woman on the list. she inherited her old white hubbie's fortune.

Orleander
06-05-10, 07:08 PM
so you seriously think Warren Buffet and Bill Gates tell everyone how to look? LMFAO!

And someone with a face full of tats or a guy with a comb over are not good decision makers in my opinion. Customers make judgments based on appearances. That's why we bathe, brush our teeth, wear clean clothes, etc.

soullust
06-05-10, 07:47 PM
gay..

Norsefire
06-05-10, 10:35 PM
the guys that own everything and tell everybody what to do, and how they should look, and so on...



You mean the successful people? They're not on the verge of extinction.

Lori_7
06-06-10, 11:27 AM
so you seriously think Warren Buffet and Bill Gates tell everyone how to look? LMFAO!

And someone with a face full of tats or a guy with a comb over are not good decision makers in my opinion. Customers make judgments based on appearances. That's why we bathe, brush our teeth, wear clean clothes, etc.

hygiene is different from fashion. and it seems to me that conformity is the result of a power play...an ego trip...when it comes to something like fashion. it's a loss of individuality and of freedom.

Lori_7
06-06-10, 11:27 AM
You mean the successful people? They're not on the verge of extinction.

not up on current events huh?

Fraggle Rocker
06-07-10, 03:51 PM
not up on current events huh?The government keeps bailing them out.

Bebelina
06-07-10, 04:57 PM
I think it's ok for men to wear makeup, but most of them who do are gay, because they want to look like girls. :D

Anarcho Union
06-08-10, 07:04 AM
I think it's ok for men to wear makeup, but most of them who do are gay, because they want to look like girls. :D

Acctualy ive known a lot more straight guys wear make-up then gay. And I dont look girly at all.

Thoreau
06-08-10, 08:37 AM
Acctualy ive known a lot more straight guys wear make-up then gay. And I dont look girly at all.

I think any guy that wears makeup looks gay (except for TV and such). And thats coming from a gay guy.

ejderha
06-08-10, 11:33 AM
People should be able to wear make up -or anything they want done- without others sneering at them, no matter what sexual orientation or gender group they belong.

Besides, what's with this "make up on man looks gay, period" thing. It's stupid. It's basically painting yourself, how can it be seen as related to genetic wiring of a gender. And also gay men are men. They don't want to be women, they love men as men.

I am a 34 years old woman and I don't wear make up. I simply never did. Honestly. First, I am way too lazy to put that on my face and too restless to carry it there.
So does that make me less woman or less feminine?

If it's about 'painting yourself' surely you don't think ancient warriors have some feminine or gay spirits, do you?

stateofmind
06-08-10, 11:51 AM
If it's about 'painting yourself' surely you don't think ancient warriors have some feminine or gay spirits, do you?

In all fairness I think that kind of painting is more akin to those football fanatics who paint themselves their team colors which is pretty different than what this discussion is about.

ejderha
06-08-10, 11:54 AM
In all fairness I think that kind of painting is more akin to those football fanatics who paint themselves their team colors which is pretty different than what this discussion is about.

Yes. So, it's probably not about 'painting' but genders then.

Newyorker121594
06-08-10, 12:01 PM
Just because a guy wears make-up it does not make him gay it makes him who he wants to be no matter what he is about to do is doing. its a look/Style thats not common and in my opinion is awesome. so everyone who says its for faggy guys is a faggy guy