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genep
06-13-07, 12:07 PM
There are thoughts, fiction, and then there are thoughts that try to exercise futility by trying to do the impossible and be more than just thoughts.

Thoughts that are just thoughts are “Stoned” which makes them appear to be what they are fiction, hallucinations.

When thoughts exercise futility by trying to be more than just thoughts, they do this with Effort of trying to avoid the Now – which is impossible because the Now is all there is. These thoughts that are exercising their futility appear “Unstoned” which makes fiction, thoughts, hallucinations appear “real” when they are just thoughts, fiction, a hallucination.

Being Stoned can be called “Meditation” : “being Stoned in the Now. “
Meditation however can only be Stoned in the Now if it is Effortless.
This is because Effort is trying-to-avoid the Now ( trying-to-avoid being Stoned ) which is impossible because the Now is all there is,
there-is-no-other, only Now.

“Meditation” is simply being Stoned in the Now in which all thoughts, fiction, is just hallucinations and this “Stoned” makes this obvious -- that all thoughts are fiction, a hallucination... and the mind is just a collection of these thoughts, be it in a dream, a hallucination or in a hallucination's (unstoned) “reality.”

The Nonduality of Advaita is just a story about being Stoned.
Advaita: I AM a hallucination, because “there is no other.”

-- the Hallucinating Hallucination of "there-is-no-other."

original
06-13-07, 01:02 PM
Blah blah blah...

Either you are stoned or you are about to be.

Grantywanty
06-13-07, 01:04 PM
This is very mental, abstract and not really in the Now.
Is this a practice what I preach not what I do kind of thing?
If you look back, can you find the emotional intent you had when writing this and then the thought that made you think you would get something out of it?
Not that there is a problem with desire - I don't agree with the Buddhists on that - but I do think it is important, often, to know why, really, you are doing something, and the contradiction here between the message and itself gave me the impression you may not know what you are doing.

lightgigantic
06-14-07, 04:59 PM
http://www.sincomentarios.net/post/data/upimages/pic-crumb-stoned-again.jpg

:rolleyes:

VitalOne
06-14-07, 07:42 PM
There are thoughts, fiction, and then there are thoughts that try to exercise futility by trying to do the impossible and be more than just thoughts.

Thoughts that are just thoughts are “Stoned” which makes them appear to be what they are fiction, hallucinations.

When thoughts exercise futility by trying to be more than just thoughts, they do this with Effort of trying to avoid the Now – which is impossible because the Now is all there is. These thoughts that are exercising their futility appear “Unstoned” which makes fiction, thoughts, hallucinations appear “real” when they are just thoughts, fiction, a hallucination.

Being Stoned can be called “Meditation” : “being Stoned in the Now. “
Meditation however can only be Stoned in the Now if it is Effortless.
This is because Effort is trying-to-avoid the Now ( trying-to-avoid being Stoned ) which is impossible because the Now is all there is,
there-is-no-other, only Now.

“Meditation” is simply being Stoned in the Now in which all thoughts, fiction, is just hallucinations and this “Stoned” makes this obvious -- that all thoughts are fiction, a hallucination... and the mind is just a collection of these thoughts, be it in a dream, a hallucination or in a hallucination's (unstoned) “reality.”

The Nonduality of Advaita is just a story about being Stoned.
Advaita: I AM a hallucination, because “there is no other.”

-- the Hallucinating Hallucination of "there-is-no-other."
Yeah I agree...

Wisdom_Seeker
06-14-07, 11:46 PM
me too (=