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I just got started with JKD. My instructor was taught by Dan Inosantos who was one of Bruce Lee's star students. This version of JKD incudes the deadly filipino stick fighting. Any other JKD students? oz
^You're A Real rebel^ Anyway I'm finally going to take a look at that school tonight and hopefully pick a style. I really want to learn weapons eventually so that will be a factor in my decision and I will add that into Emptydragon's topics because in one class schedule it said it teaches the "dragon phoenix swords". I never heard of these, does anybody know what they are?
Know clue at all. Dragon Pheonix???? You got me there. On a side not I as well will be starting up with an new teach. Learning internal shaolin. It looks like it'll be some fun.
Dragon/Phoenix http://www.chinahand.com/shaolin/class_information/slcurricul.htm Look at the 2nd degree black belt curriculum.
I see... Still I don't like belt systems. To me they usualy show that in instructor doesn't know the real art and philosophy. Ranking is for Karte and Wushu not the internal arts. Ranking is too militaristic for me. Ranks are pointless, one should learn when they are capable and meantaly ready. Not be waht color blet they have. People do learn and understand at the same speed. Belts to me are like school a certificate of memorization not aplication (but that is limited to my experience). I don't like the seperation that envitably come with them. I think martial arts "school" should be like friend and all help each other with thier art. There is external Shaolin and internal Shaolin. Allot of times you find the external form. Always be sure that you are taking what you want. Also i like to be aware of the martial skill of the master. Personally I would prefer to find a teacher not a business. I just find it questionable that they do not teach Ki-gong and meditation. Those are a big part to internal Shaolin. You may learn some "effective" self-defense but with out meditation and Ki-gong. To me that would be very limited. I guess all I am saying is watch out for frauds.
That was only the Long Fist schedule, here's all the styles: http://www.chinahand.com/kungfu_styles.htm
best striking art: muay thai for on the ground: (where it usually ends up) Krav Maga or jujitsu arts that suck: karate tae kwon do alot of forms of kung fu (although i hear a few are ok)
deadliest art: JKD Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune do roles 32 martial arts into one cohesive system. My teacher adds 3 forms of filipino martial arts including stick fighting. If you are a master at JKD, the only martial artist that can beat you is another master at JKD. You can fight masters of the other arts in their style but when you switch to a different style, they cannot defend. There are no belts in JKD. My instructor believes that if a fight breaks out, it is ussually on the streets. Therefore, we wear street clothes while training. Every move in JKD leads to a death move. There is no "trading punches/kicks". check it out before you enroll in another art. oz
That seems kind of silly. If you are a strong enough martial artist you do not have to kill your opponents. You don't even have to injure them. The Tao of JKD is a philosophy, not an art itself to base an art on it is in direct contradiction of the philosophy. To my understanding the idea is to develop your own style and useing any marital ideas you come across. As well as not to be bound by confusious thought. Everyones art is differnet knowmatter how much you try to make it the same. To do so is to hold yourself back. There is much to learn from every art. But it is up to the artist to dicide what he beleives more practical. Remember The Tao of Jeet Kundo is just one mans journey. That seems very foolish. Bruce Lee was not the best martial artist in history. Just well kown. To be regemented and un-changing is against the very essence of Taoist arts. This is not a new idea that Bruce had.
Everybody has there own ideas of the "ultimate" fighting style. In Discovery Channel's top 10 shaolin kung-fu came in at #1 although in most Ultimate Fighting Championships the grapplers usually win. I don't think it really matters. It's like the saying goes, "there's ALWAYS someone tougher."
Why? Why? Cory I would say its more like. "There can be only one". But I understand what you mean. I would think that being tough is not the point. It takes skill and intelligence to be a great fighter not brute force. Even the toughest fighter may have a gap of mind to attack or a weak moment ot prey on. Fighting in the end is pointless. The wises fighters know this and stop a fight before it begins.
If you are in a fight with an equally skilled opponent who is bent on hurting you, it is silly to think that you should try to beat them w/o injuring them. That is absurd. You will open yourself up to being killed yourself. "Every move leads to a death blow" not every move is one. If you have incapacitated your opponent, you don't have to execute the death blow. But if you have four of his partners coming at you, it may be necessary to end it so that he cannot rejoin the fight. Otherwise it is your body laying on the concrete. Remember, this is not a tournament art. It is a practical on-the-streets art. QUOTE]Originally posted by Empty Dragon The Tao of JKD is a philosophy, not an art itself to base an art on it is in direct contradiction of the philosophy. To my understanding the idea is to develop your own style and useing any marital ideas you come across. As well as not to be bound by confusious thought. Everyones art is differnet knowmatter how much you try to make it the same. To do so is to hold yourself back. [/QUOTE] JKD is a philosophy that has become an art. You do develop your own style but after you have mastered the art. At the moment, I am learning my instructor's style (which itself is dynamic and growing). Then once I have mastered his style, I can begin to change to adapt to my style. If I'm going to dedicate my life to a system, I want to make sure I can beat any other system with it. I want to learn the deadliest art. C'mon, if you and you're are confronted by four street hoods all yielding knifes, tae kwon door karate will get you killed and your g/f raped and/or killed. The test to any martial art is its deadliness and not how it makes you feel inside or how it fits in with your philosophy. No martial arts can even come close. oz
It does matter. UFC is a structured events with rules. A JKD master could walk in and end those fights in seconds. Only problem is that there would be a dead guy on the mat. Grappling is a powerful art and is incorperated into JKD. Also, some of the fighters in UFC have been trained in JKD but they can't fully execute it in the ring. The only actual tru test would be if there was a tournament that had fight to the death (which would never happen legally). oz
