If your part of the 1/3 of the population that can discern 3d objects from a 2 dimensional photo. Your wondering why NASA hasn't announced these amazing discoveries. Most of the following photo's are within 2-3 feet of rover
http://www.longislandlan.com/spielburg.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/wow.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/wow1.jpg

http://www.longislandlan.com/rectangle.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/plankrock.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/piperocks.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/metal.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/halfface.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/martiancoin.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/machine.jpg
http://www.longislandlan.com/bottlerocks.jpg


http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/008/2P127073969EFF0211P2215R2M1.JPG
http://www.enterprisemi
ssion.com/spirit.htm

38.5 meg tif
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA04995.tif

They look like rocks to me. :confused:

It's a hoax. NASA must have stolen rocks from my backyard and used them on the set!

I would say fragments of Meteorite looking at the the supposed colouring and the nature of how stones/rocks are altered in shape on this planet based upon nature and weathering.

Such fragments appear pointy since no oceans have rounded them.

I was thinking just this morning what all the "groups" that believe Mars was inhabited are going to do when it's proven to be a lifeless mass, I think this thread pretty much gives the game away.

Wow, not a week has gone by and the freaks have come out of the woodwork. Ha, cliche. At least it had the decency to put it in the pseudoscience section.

why are there so many ignorant people in this forum ! , anyways ,very interesting photo,im not sure if there is anything anomolous on these photos (although they do look odd), BUT there are lots of orbital mars photos that show structures ect....

I cant wait for the spirit lander to start exploring :)

They're friggin' rocks people! Or am I just closed mided? Sheeeeesh! :rolleyes:

You do not understand. If you do not agree you must be close-minded. This is the way conspiracy theories work man! Get with the program!

The thing is that I don't see a single rock there which I haven't seen something similar here on earth. Even the shattered pieces are seen on earth near cliffs... but I suspect that these are do to meteorites.

Well they may be rocks.. but my guess is probably not.

I have many nasa tif 's in the 50-70 mb range. They show many artifacts immediately around the craft. And Possible bones/ skulls etc..

Nasa has requested all school children to send rocks to nasa. To help them figure out what these rocks are made of. Because most of the rocks dont match any known origin.

And we should find out very shortly.

Please note all images showing a red mars have been adjusted by nasa to appear that way. This little rover is going to make many big mouths close .. shortly

There are artifacts here.. And we have the abilitiy to scientifically discern that.

Unless some mysterious thing happens to the rover in the next day or 2 . The Paradigm shift will arrive shortly.

And that is what my crystal balls are telling me !

Please, point out one of the 'artifacts' and explain why you believe it is.

And yes, the images are red-shifted. We all know that. NASA does sometihng similar to almost all their images. It is also jsut as important to note however that the original unmodified photo is still available on NASA's site.

1) You have to be kidding me. Have you seen the old man in the mountain? Just because something has two dents in it doesn't make it a skull.

2) And what on there have you not seen occur in nature?

What I haven't seen in nature . .. An automated rover which can roll 3 feet and analyze these objects.. :) we will see .. won't we .. something against science.

step one 1 ) whats that

step two 2 ) I dont know lets go look.

step three 3) holy shit

none of this works with out step 1

There is one thing in the pictures I find puzzling, along with the NASA scientists.
At the bottom right, where the airbag was retracted over the surface, it looks
like....clay, mud or something containing unfrozen moisture. It even appears to
"roll up" or "ball up" where the airbag was dragged. I thought the surface was
supposed to be hard frozen there?

step one 1 ) whats that
Rocks.

Step two is still 'lets go look'.

Your step 3 is simply a hopeful guess, which currently isn't based on anything.

1) You have to be kidding me. Have you seen the old man in the mountain? Just because something has two dents in it doesn't make it a skull.

2) And what on there have you not seen occur in nature?


I never said it was a skull ?

Is that what you thought it looked like ?


Some of you are really ridiculous !

me <<<<< just wants science. nothing more nothing less

Why is it so strange to you that science use.. visual clues ?
What are you affraid of..

That robot can tell us what these objects are made of.. what they look like under a microscope ? what materials they are composed of. .whether biological material exist or existed.

Wake up .. don't be a moron forever ... It's a right not a privilege

Yes. I also had a stone out back of my old house shaped like a skull. Were you trying to say it looked like something else?

I found it funny that you went back to your post to and added "Stupid Nasa should not have put a color test pattern on the rover. gave it all away when yellow is shown as red". Those test patterns serve a very real purpose, and it's not like nasa is hiding the fact that they show photos in false color. Just about every hubble/telescope photo that you see is false color, along with most other nasa photos. They also however fully acknowledge this, and the real-color photos are also available.

I'm going to let this thread sink to the bottom. Your constant editing is getting on my nerves. I go to answer your post, and suddenly it says something different.

Wow. Logical fallacies haven't been so offensive before. I didn't think people could be this stupid.

http://www.longislandlan.com/thing.jpg

I'll keep posting these objects of my imagination as I go through these large tif files.

Also note Nasa's poor Mosaic editing abilities around important objects

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/008/2P127073969EFF0211P2215R2M1.JPG

Rock or sculpture ?

http://www.longislandlan.com/sol8.jpg

Goddamn. How old are you? You are playing make-believe with rocks. This is too childish. I am out of here.

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. I think I'll cry. It's much less painful then coke out the nose.

Here's a link to some more puzeling objects

http://www.keithlaney.com/spirit_color_images.htm


The last image you posted is very impressive! (the sculpture one)

I hope Spirit doesn't get stuck. It looks like it landed in a mud hole! :D

I thought this first image was the best. It almost looks like mildew or some
kind of growth on the rocks. I guess it could just be charred meteorite fragments, also.
http://www.keithlaney.com/SCI/2P126991663EFF0205P2530color.jpg

hmmm cant find rocks with angles or rocks that look like skullsThat's only because you don't want to.
And note that this picture is much lower res, so I had even less to work with than you.

Well they may be rocks.. but my guess is probably not.

I have many nasa tif 's in the 50-70 mb range. They show many artifacts immediately around the craft. And Possible bones/ skulls etc..

Nasa has requested all school children to send rocks to nasa. To help them figure out what these rocks are made of. Because most of the rocks dont match any known origin.


You're a nut. THEY ARE FUCKING ROCKS!!! Look at them. Look at the latest pictures from the rover site and zoom up on them. They are rocks. Nothing more. They are the same rocks that litter the rest of Mars. Maybe they are a different chemical composition (carbonates and hydrated minerals as the results from the infrared spectrometer are showing) than in other places but that's because they are on a part of Mars not yet explored. You'll find, as everyone else will that when the rover finally gets off the lander, is that those "objects" are rocks...thats all. But they can still be interesting because they can give a better understanding of the makeup of Mars and if it was formed from water.

I put down my crack pipe but I still see...cut angles in them thar rocks


[/IMG]http://www.longislandlan.com/skull.jpg

Well, perhaps you should reference my photo... which also has 'cut angles'... and even a wheel!

Perhaps you have no idea what fracture lines are, but trust me that edges like that are common in nature.

Yes. Rocks commonly look like that. Shear fracture lines look just like that and that rock looks old too like it was weathered after being exposed for sometime. Also disregard the picture seam from having anything to do with it. :p

As I already mentioned, most of those are "meteorite" fragments, you can tell just by looking at how the surround ground is littered with it.

The picture is as mentioned one where multiple images have been put together, also note that the motion of the rover to generate a camera picture is not accurate enough for seemless pictures.

However I'm sure most of those that answer to these comments about those images being "AS IS" will know that people are just playing up to a rise.

More rocks

http://www.longislandlan.com/wrench.jpg

More and more and more coming!

Wake up !

Wow! They look just like the rocks in the picture you posted of earth! How amazingly mundane.

I have a big smile right now! Why because I'm right . And it will be proved to you ignorant as well as the 2d/3d handicaped in the very near future.

The lord gave them eyes yet they do not see.

ohh just got sol 9 tif's heres 1 for now more rocks

http://www.longislandlan.com/sol9.jpg

Paridigm Shift coming to a world near you.

So you have yet to explain why the images I pointed out don't negate your claims that these are artificial/life.

I showed you THE SAME THING in a picture where you yourself said they wouldn't be. Shadows do not make a rock a skull.

And what is that last picture supposed to be? It is just ANOTHER rock. Are you going to put up a picture of each individual rock?

Well that is kind of you to say. Do you wish to explain why, or are you going to continue to post rocks for no apparent reason?

http://www.longislandlan.com/sol9x2.jpg


Persol I cant't help ya.

Hell, you can't even help yourself. Have fun. And avoid the people in the white coats.

The funny thing is that you'll still be claiming this is something else, even after the mission is over.

http://www.longislandlan.com/metal.jpg

I'm looking at the panorama, even over the examples I find that you post and all I see is rocks. Weathered, windblown rocks of various sizes and shapes, of different angled shear fractures and breaks, and what looks to be maybe water etched holes in a number of them. That would be make sense given the fact that they think they landed in an old lake bed. Why you have it in your mind that something so unlikely as what you "say" it is I don't know. I think you've stopped taking your meds but that's just me. So I'll sit back, watch the rover perform true science (proving you're wrong of course) and feel good in the fact that I'm not you, a true delusional.

P.S. Give me a cheap ignorant reply like "your still an idiot" and you can kiss my black ass.

How do people find out if they can see 3d on these pictures or not??

And why the hell wouldn't they be rocks?



Oh yeah....50 bucks

THEY'RE JUST ROCKS!

Did anyone notice that fluid's picture of a "cut angle" rock had a big edit seam running down the middle? That's two photos buttspliced together there guy, or at least that's what it looks like.

And don't forget all those skulls laying around Mars next to a used can opener and some Pogs.

*cough*ignaronce*cough*

*cough*delusional*cough*


It's called reality. Find it sometime.

Okay this is JUST like the time I saw the bunny in the clouds and the Air Force wouldnt scramble fighters to intercept! Something major is going on, NASA, the Air Force, the Martian Rock Cutters Guild, and the Terrestrial Flying Bunnies, they are all in it together and we have to find the truth!

Now, if anyone were asking for my opinion, and they're not, I understand this, but if they were asking, I'd have to say that those just look like some blury ass pictures of rocks, not entirely unlike some of the various varieties of stones that we have here on this planet.

We may soon find out now that the mars lander is due to roll....

Heres a link to a VERY INTERESTING article

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/2004/058/spirit-1st-images.htm

Mars is not a dessert planet and the sooner people realise it the better

mmmm... dessert planet...

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/2001/19/m0804688-images/1-treesfew-67k.jpg

look at these "rocks" ,there definetly rocks ,ive even got some rocks that look similar in my back garden :rolleyes:

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:rolleyes:

I love how they just ignore that I found rocks that look almost exactly the same in the picture of earth that was posted.

They are taking ignorance to a new level.

If you believe it is something else, point out the reason WHY you think this. Otherswise you are just imagining things.

Yeah, good source to trust. That guy is nuttier than you Star One and soon enough you'll figure this out.

I'm wondering since when rock shelves are trees.

Yeah, good source to trust. That guy is nuttier than you Star One and soon enough you'll figure this out.

Actualy I'm betting they are both too nutty to figure anything out let alone the nature of thier nuttyness.

You do know that NASA's funding depents on finding interesting things in space don't you? If they saw these things like you superior indeviduals do, as machiens and not rocks, or trees and not ditches, then why would they cover it up, and publish pictures of it freely available to everyone, instead of identifying that thier job is currently probably the most important in the world and raking in the cash to expore these phenomina?

Or could it be that all of these phenomina are exactly what they appear to be, just rocks. Rocks of a like that could be seen in pleanty of dry isolated places here on earth.

I think nutiness is like bad breath. You need somebody else to tell you about it.

Well, one of the criteria for being deluded is that you yourself are not aware of your delusions.

Well , at least im not deluded , ignorant , AND! have a closed mind!

There are a number of reasons for nasa not publicly saying theve found these structures , thats even if they do know they are there in the first place (wouldnt surprise me :rolleyes: )

Its not just "internet nuts" who think theres a lot more to these pictures than rocks (im not speaking about the spirit ones)

Ok, so you think they are more then rocks. WHY!?

If you can't explain what the hell you think is 'wrong' about it, then you are just delusional.

what rocks ? the spirit ones?

Ive not really looked into the spirit rocks , so i havent made up my mind, but most of them do look odd

Odd how? do they look a little bit too much like rocks to you? Does that look fishy? Like maybe the planet is trying TOO hard to make you think that it is covered with rocks?

It must be a sign of great intelligence if they can make such convincing rocks.

just because a object is on the ground among rocks doesnt make it a rock

Ill try and find some examples of "rocks" from the viking missions

just because a object is on the ground among rocks doesnt make it a rockOk, so ONCE AGAIN... why do they not look like rocks too you?

Actually, they are not all "Rocks", I mentioned before, most are Meteorite fragments splintered from the meteors impact with the ground. Technically they are still rocks, but slightly more special than your planet bound common rock.

True, but far from 'alien machinery' and 'skulls'

OK. I see the hook ... that worm! Hmmmm ....

Don't you think somewhere SOMEONE would have blabbed? Can you imagine the collective look on everyone's faces in whatever control room those pictures get shipped to IF something verifiable showed-up on camera? I think someone might actually pipe-up and spill a few beans - if they make it out of the office alive!

Intresting!

http://anomalyhunters.com/cgi-bin/marsbbs/webbbs_config.pl?read=8719

more rocks?, or in this case a new species of rock , the flying rock :rolleyes:

Looks remarkably like dust.. but I suppose they technically are flying rocks.

"I still can't work out why so many people are paying attention to the rocks, and less attention to the road."

Intresting!

http://anomalyhunters.com/cgi-bin/marsbbs/webbbs_config.pl?read=8719

more rocks?, or in this case a new species of rock , the flying rock :rolleyes:

Look at another picture taken later a bit later in the day.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/rover-images/jan-16-2004/arm.jpg

The official term is "crap on the lens".

The dust is in the same place in the same orientation as in other pictures.

"The dust is in the same place in the same orientation as in other pictures."

Indeed.

Anyway, I am a photographer, and I see that shit all the time.

Here we go

Heres a good photo's from www.keithlaney.com

http://www.keithlaney.com/TargetMarsHome/M0401289copperminecomp.jpg

It quite clearly shows a structure, and if you enhance it in photoshop it looks breathtaking

http://www.keithlaney.com/TargetMarsHome/M1302043highThernsrealmthumb.jpg

when you brighten up this one it shows a few amazing structures!

Im surprised no chronic skeptic have commented on the above two photos from www.keithlaney.com

Fine, I'll bite. It looks like an old crater. Look at how the edge is pushed up and out. That looks like a ridge of ejecta from an impact. Without a large picture of the area, I can't say anymore.

I'm not sure what I'm suppose to look at in the other picture.

"fine ill bite"

??

jesus christ this place is nuts

i give up :rolleyes: :mad:

p.s did you zoom in on the blue square? or do you mean the whole area is a old crater?

There are those that know, and dont want you to find out. Then there are those that know and want you to know. Figure it out.

"fine ill bite"

??

jesus christ this place is nuts

i give up :rolleyes: :mad:

p.s did you zoom in on the blue square? or do you mean the whole area is a old crater?

I'm nuts? It looks like a damn crater! The picture in the blue square looks like the pixelated wall of the crater. Is there suppose to be something IN that blue-squared picture? Is the mine picture a comparison to the larger picture in general or what's in the blue-squared picture?

Nature has a way of tricking people, given their imagination. Just look around on earth and you'll see examples.

And than there are those like Norval that call you closed-minded because all I want is some hard evidence not based entirely on speculation.....oh and name calling......FLUID! :rolleyes: