Marriage's 'dark side'

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by KilljoyKlown, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Funny , I've always heard that women outlive men by 5 years or so and that would mean that they are "alone" at that time.
     
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  5. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    In any relationship that goes all the way, someone has to die first and then it's all down hill for the one still living (or maybe not) Maybe a blessing in disguise.

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  7. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But so few go "all the way" most end up divorced or widowed. I think today there a 50 percent divorce rate in America by the 10 th anniversary then more divorce after that time as well. Just how many go all the way seems to be very few overall.
     
  8. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    The following site seems to support your claim:

    http://www.divorcerate.org/

    Also it gets much worse for second and third marriages.

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    Does this mean that more people are unwilling to stay in an unhealthy relationships? Unhealthy as in causing physical problems.
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Inability to adapt to the changes people go through during their marriages. That goes for both male and female.
     
  10. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    And so as the baggage piles up the ability to adapt becomes more problematic resulting in a higher divorce rate. Is there a solution other than not getting married again and again?
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I can think of two. One would be never to get married to start with, only live with each other until your fed up then both leave. Second would be to learn how to communicate with each other honestly so that if there are "problems" with adapting then you both can resolve them by working things out together. Communication is a very important thing in any relationship and if you can't be honest with someone you trust then there's no sense in marrying to start with.
     
  12. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    But many people that divorce started out trusting each other, and I've seen times when honesty precipitated the divorce (confessing to sex with others does not always end well).
     
  13. arauca Banned Banned

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    My estimate on women who are seeking partners 75 % are divorcee and 25 are widows
     
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    Do you mean they have extra partner ?
     
  15. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    The old times, who could last 50 years in marriage, did it differently than the ways pitched by the so-called modern experts. There are too many experts, in the free market, most of which are marriage hacks.

    One thing about the old timers, was the husband would lead the wife or at least the wife would make him feel he was leading. I am not talking about a slave driver husband, but making the male feel responsible because he has a unique skill that is needed.

    In the old days, when a husband and wife would drive, the male would want to use that opportunity to practice self reliance; find his own way using only his instincts. The female would want to stop and ask for directions, since she does not trust these same instincts of self reliance.

    When the wife reads the latest fad, or gets the husband to join the latest fad, or has him do women's work, she is atrophying his male self reliance. Instead of letting him find the way through the ups and downs of their marriage, he is supoose to become a he-she that stops at the corner to let the hack lead them.

    The wise women knows how to be in charge, while letting her male think he is in charge. The male can be fully aware his wife is in charge, but he will appreciate her respect for his being a male in the tough times. If not, the male will look elsewhere where a new woman will temporarily play that respect the man game.

    The modern female will eventually force or coax the male to stop and ask for directions from the latest marriage hack, such as both having the child. That is out of touch with reality. But women can be lied to, since they have to ask for directions, and can't find their own way. Real men would say that hack is full of crap, he is just trying to cash in on your stupidity. For us, you are having the baby and I will support both of you. With that respect, the male will help the marriage last longer, than if the female invites the hack to live with them everyday; nag the husband to obey the hack.
     
  16. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Contradictory crap.
     
  17. arauca Banned Banned

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    I am married for 40 years, my last marriage was for convenience, and we are getting alone for 14 years.
    Marriage is a give and take , I got to love my last wife in the last 5 years
     
  18. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Ummm, having sex with others is dishonest to start with. So admitting to it isn't what led to the divorce, the infidelity is
     
  19. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    My Mom always said "The rooster rules the roost. But the hen rules the rooster"
     
  20. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    I won't say the infidelity didn't cause the divorce, but what caused the infidelity? Most people never look any deeper than the infidelity, but not all infidelity is created equal. Sometimes there is a good reason for it. However whatever the reason the decision to come clean, usually means you want the relationship to end.
     
  21. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    you don't have to be married to be unfaithful though. I do think long term married couples weather infidelity better than unmarried couples or people who haven't been married long.
     
  22. KilljoyKlown Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    That's true, but unmarried people never become a divorce statistic. Marriages that have children probably survive cheating more often than those that don't. But I don't imagine trust will ever be the same again.
     
  23. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Here's the story of a lady friend of my mother:

    When the lady was still married, she had many health problems. She even had cancer, had several operations, her health was steadily declining and she was not able to function in daily life anymore.
    Then, her husband died. Within a couple of months, she recovered fully from her health problems, and has not been ill for years. She seems happier than ever.
     

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