Marriage: Good or Bad?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Increan, Jul 18, 2002.

  1. Increan Sage Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    358
    What does everyone think about getting married?

    I don't like the idea of marriage, not from fear of commitment, but(however shallow this sounds) possesions. Some possesions I could care less about, but some are very valuable to me and I would not want to have to split during divorce. Also, divorce is a long process that is really expensive. half of marriages end in divorce anyways. too many people get married to young and for the wrong reasons. The only way I would ever get married is if I was absolutley sur it was the right person, but even then I'm not so sure. My parents are divorced which could cause most of my views, but I know many peoplke who are "happily" married and it still seems like hell to me.
     
  2. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  3. Clarentavious Person Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    934
    Sounds like you have other priorities and things on your mind besides love, like material objects and worries about what might happen if you get involved with someone.

    If you like the idea of marriage only if you are absolutely sure about the person, then take the time to get to know them first, well.

    Befriend them first and try to get to know them very well personally; this doesn't always happen during common dating.
     
  4. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  5. Increan Sage Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    358
    Actually love is always on my mind, and I believe love does not need to be consimated with marriage. The love itself should be enough.
     
  6. Guest Guest Advertisement



    to hide all adverts.
  7. Clarentavious Person Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    934
    Ok, then forget the idea of "marriage" Not wedding gowns or tuxedo's, cakes, lots of people, churches, contracts, priest being the ones to establish your relationship, or any of that foolishness. Just have your feelings for your mate. Kind of makes me wonder why you posted this thread though, just trying to get people's opinions?
     
  8. Increan Sage Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    358
    Yes exactly, I just want to know how everyone else feels about it.
     
  9. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,199
    Incream,

    Since 50%+ of all marriages end in divorce and that value likely to increase, then there is a good chance yours will end in divorce as well.

    But why get married?

    You can easily share a life with someone and then when the differences become unacceptable then simply split up. Although breaking up is never easy.

    I was married for 18 years and my X and I are now very good friends, although we never quarreled even when married, we just drifted in different directions. That was 10 years ago. I’ve dated a few times since that time but really I much prefer my independence and freedom and no longer actively date. There are simply other more interesting things to do than chase after the opposite sex and deal with all the associated emotions.

    I doubt you will take my advice which would be to stay single and ignore the other sex, since I suspect you have the urge of your hormones and millions of years of evolutionary instincts to overcome as well as pressure from society and the advertising industry.

    Marriages tended to last longer when women were not so ‘liberated’. As women increasingly move into the arena usually dominated by men and find they can be independent and support themselves, then they have little need for those past archaic practices of subservience to their husbands. This trend is still increasing.

    So stay single, enjoy any relationships that come your way, but otherwise find self-sufficiency and independence, and freedom to do anything you wish without any need to depend on anyone else.

    Enjoy love when it occurs, and return true love if it is genuine, but don’t hold onto relationships when they have clearly failed. Move on and enjoy the next experience. With each event comes learning and wisdom, and fun.

    Have fun
    Cris
     
  10. Increan Sage Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    358
    Ok Cris, 1. Did you not read my correction from Incream to Increan. And 2. I never said I was married.
     
  11. Clarentavious Person Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    934
    I don't agree with Cris. Without a woman to be with I am a wreck. I already lack emotions and human company, and spend too much time on this PC as is.

    Cris, if you want to prove you are strong enough to overcome your natural desires, then good for you, you are very powerful and have much a will, and I have no amount of respect or think highly of you for doing that.

    Cris is obviously quite old. You can tell by looking at his photo in the picture thread, and the fact that he was married 18 years and divorced for 10 now (that in itself is 28, and it is highly unlikely he was married prior to 18, so that's at minimum 18+28=46)

    With increasing age these desires usually fall. The looks are gone by then. Wrinkles, gray or balding hair, rough skin, and all the like which make elderly people physically unattractive.

    I don't plan on living past age 50 for 2 reasons, one of which is that I don't want my body falling apart and looking like that.

    At any rate, if Cris' plan, or prediction based on current world strucuture (that women have equal rights and can support themselves - this is a good thing IMO BTW, but you are just stating it as a fact to back your argument), is unravel a woman and man's desire to love and care about each other, I don't agree with that.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2002
  12. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,199
    Increan,

    1. No, still haven't seen one. Have I been spelling your name incorrectly? Sorry if that is so, purely an accident.

    2. The context was if you were to marry, then your marriage would likely end in divorce.

    Does your name have a meaning?

    Cris
     
  13. Increan Sage Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    358
    You don't know how many times I've been asked that, but the answer is no, I made it up along with Increi. I used to have a completely made up world called Increi and the inhabitants were Increan (Hense Earth=Earthlings) but that was a long time ago but i still like the name.
     
  14. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,199
    Clarent....,

    Then that places an unfair responsibility on the woman on whom you will become dependent. What happens when she becomes ill or disabled, or when old becomes senile or has Alzheimer’s, would you then desert her because you would not be able to look after yourself?

    A successful marriage is a partnership of equals, with each side being able to support the other in terms of crisis or need. If you are so weak that you cannot cope on your own then you have no chance in a real crisis, and your partner will soon detect that and reject you for your weakness.

    My birth date is in my profile; I’ll be 50 in September. My father died at 92, mainly because of complications from injuries sustained in WWII, and my mother is a very healthy 86 year-old. If there are no breakthroughs in anti-aging research then my current state of health gives me an expected lifespan of around 120. I expect medical science to push that out much further.

    Ha ha, very funny. But many people my age are fully capable of seeing past the animal instincts and look for the real qualities that make for successful relationships.

    Then take care of it. But what do you plan to do, kill yourself? And for what, vanity, and sex? Your life values are really screwed up if that is really your perspective.

    Take care
    Cris
     
  15. Clarentavious Person Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    934
    Oh I function without a woman - barely. This is not the position I want to be in however. She could die after I have been in a relationship, I am aware of this. Then I would have to go back to the current state that I am in. Which is somewhat miserable, but tolerable, and livable.

    Perhaps. But some elderly people barely function at all. They are dependant on wheel chairs for "walking", and forget what they had for dinner yesterday. Even if you do find them nice, or intelligent, or whatever qualities you desire. IMO you'd have trouble having a good relationship, especially when you want to hold your mate's hand and it feels as brittle as a dinosaur bone

    I said 2 reasons. My body being only one of them. And I might kill myself yes. The other reason I will not share on this board.

    And what's your say on marriage if you terminated your's and don't think it should exist anymore? Maybe not all people feel the way you do. And, if you scroll up, I called current marriage foolishness. I don't plan to marry. And I guess we'll just have to see where my feelings, and someone else's, lead me.
     
  16. Lykan Golden Sparkler Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    763
    In general i've seen so much more unhappiness than happiness created in our society due to legal marriage, that i don't really feel happy or glad when someone i know gets married.

    Marriage of the heart means everything to me, and legal marriage means very little. To say "Yes, i will spend the rest of my life with you no matter what" seems very silly and overly idealistic to me, because you never know how both of you will change down the road, so that such a previous contract can become quite a hindrance in one or more ways.

    And yet girls are programmed by our society to view their imagined wedding as being a golden highlight of their life, something to aim for -- as if when you get legally married, happiness is guaranteed to follow. Same with having a baby. So many people i know get married or have a baby because they think that it will fill that empty place they feel deep inside. But as it turns out, it doesn't. It may distract them from it, but it's a temporary distraction, and they'll still have to deal with it sooner or later.

    I recommend that if a couple is going to get legally married, that they wait at least 2-3 years before doing so.
     
  17. Sublime Trigger Brains for Beginners. Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    78
    You really have to know someone before commiting to marriage. I don't know that you can section it into 'at least 2-3 years.' Some people are made for eachother and know it.

    For me marriage is a declaration of trust. I can respect that.
     
  18. Lykan Golden Sparkler Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    763
    If 2 people are "made for each other" then waiting 2-3 years before getting legally married should be no problem. I've been in 10 mate relationships of various sorts, and 2 of them were so deep and knowing -- where we instantly felt like we knew each other already -- that we knew that we were "made for each other." Soulmates, as some people would call it. And yet neither relationship lasted for longer than 2 years. One could say, "well then evidently you weren't made for each other," but we knew that we were. And i've known other people who've told me similar stories. Waiting 2-3 years to get married will give you more of an idea if things will work in the longrun, regardless of how compatible you are. That's just my opinion based on my own experiences.

    I don't consider marriage to be a declaration of trust not only because of the high rate of divorce in our society, but the high rate of infidelity. If a person is going to be trustworthy, then they're going to be trustworthy regardless of whether or not they've declared it to everyone.
     
  19. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,235
    Hmmm ...

    When you're ready for kids, get married.

    When the kids are old enough to be on their own, get divorced.


    Works reasonably well.

    Take care

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  20. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    8,616
    Welcome back, Chagur...

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  21. Dark Master DaRk LoThArIo Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    287
    Marriage is good or bad all depending on the person.

    People marry for possessions, or because they feel they are too old and 'want to settle' down before it's too late. Things like that blah blah, don't want to go on and on. It's in a way like natural selection, what's best for that person. What they think is best, an experience maybe, some love in it too, some lust. Then they get divorced. If you wanted marriage just to share moments with someone and for support in money, that is what some people do. You can do that then divorce, nothing wrong with it.

    I personally think that instead of getting married so fast so that people won't divorce so much, couples should live together for 6 months to a maximum of 3 years. Then that would basically work out all the problems living together, this...that...and prove if marriage would flow good or if it's worth it.

    But for me, I would want to marry someone I truly love and want to spend my life and precious moments with. If you're like me, never let other reasons such as money and all that other stuff to bother you too much or control your decision over marriage too much.
     
  22. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,235
    Thanks wet1 ...

    Haven't been gone, just haven't been posting too much.

    Things should be changing soon and I'll be sticking my 2¢ in a bit more often.

    Take care

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  23. Zero Banned Banned

    Messages:
    2,355
    Cris

    Your claim that 50% + f all marriages end in divorce is extremely inaccurate outside the US. There is tons more to the world that the US.

    Inside the US, I would say that people have a fear of commiting themselves to married life and responsibility. I wonder if thsi is not due to the fact that US teens are sexually promiscuous, and this habit may carry on, reducing the chances of a successful marriage, and loyalty within it. Just my personal opinion, I'm sure people would think otherwise.
     

Share This Page