It is an empirical truth, and maxim of evolution, that higher order life forms can only evolve from lower order life forms, and a higher order life forms never evolve into lower order life forms. Agreed?

For those who seek control, limiting one's world to what can be perceived with organic sensory channels, leaves only three dimensional reality to contend with, and a crude mathematical cataloging of this three dimensional reality lends a illusion that, if only to learn a sufficiently large amount of facts, an individual can be in control.

I am a scientist. I know how to evaluate astrophysics research. I understand how a particle accelerator works, and why. I understand exactly why potassium cyanide kills the physical human body. I understand why an atomic bomb explodes, and I also understand many occult sciences, and much sorcery.

In order for science to exist, rational thought must be employed to solve problems. Rational thought to solve problems was first outlined by Thomas Aquinas, the famous Roman Catholic Saint, in "The Summa Theologica", which has been in print for almost 800 years. Previous to this, the most common ways to solve problems men encountered were astrology, which was used by French doctors to devise a laughable cure for bubonic plague during the 1300s; military strength to annihilate opponents and conquer needed land, whilst supplying needed labor and booty; spiritual methods, many comprising using demons to fight demons; and occult science, where secret knowledge was used to create a problem, driving a market for a solution, and was also used to solve the problem.

After the writing of The Summa Theologica, many occult sciences were laid bare, through scientific study. An example would be: If you flip a coin 100 times, and it lands on heads all 100 times, the chances of the coin landing on tails the 101st toss must be astronomically in favor!! Agreed?

Let's do this mathematically. The chances the coin will land on heads, 100 times in a row, after it happens, are 1:1, because the chances of anything that already happened having happened are 100%. The chances of two things happening in succession are the multiple of the things happening individually. The chances of a coin toss being tails, is 1:2. 1:1*1:2 = 1:2. The chances the 101st toss of the coin being tails is 1:2, or 50%.

This is what confuses people most about science. Past occurrences in no way indicate future performance. The past is in no way linked to the future, and the present is independent of the past and future. The tendency of people to use past occurrences in judging future outcomes is how gambling casinos make money. Odds making is an occult practice, where people are led to be superstitious, and gauge chance outcomes by past performance.

Odds making is science. Whenever defeat is scientifically insured for a victim, you have an occult practice. Before Saint Thomas wrote "The Summa Theologica", people believed all manner of things occurred because of forces unconnected to the physical world. The key to harnessing The Physical Laws of Nature is human ignorance to the fact one is doing it.

All of physical reality is trustworthy, unless mankind is allowed to tamper with it. The only unpredictable things known exist only on earth, or in earths atmosphere, and are within the reach of tampering by mankind. Every chance occurrence of anything is due to mankind.

Human beings lack sufficient intellect, muscular coordination, and sensory perception to understand anything, other than how to physically survive. Machine technology is not very advanced, and precipitates its own end by limited fuel and material resources.

There is technology available that would allow Immortality, and unrestricted travel, beyond light speed, because matter is not involved, and to make the highest evolved life form on earth Absolute Judge of All, with Absolute Power over physical reality.

This technology is hidden because forces oppose humans making the next evolutionary step, Immortality. The way this technology is kept hidden is by bombarding Western Society with sensuality, and gratification of the flesh. This makes humans essentially blind, only having use of the organic brain, and five extremely limited sensory channels.

In this condition, the human race will unwittingly commit genocide against itself. This is a condition known as Homegaciditis (pron. hoe-Megg-Uh-sid-Eye-tiss; etym. From Latin-Homo Human; from Greek-Omega Last, Final, End; From Latin-Cide Death; From Latin-Itis Pathology, Disease, Illness; def. Literally-Human final death disease. The disease currently infecting the human race. Symptoms-Abortion, sodomy, feminism, suicide, use of birth control, homicide, atheism, genocide, greed, consumption, secular humanism, terrorism, universal human ignorance, intimate relations outside the bounds of sacramental wedlock, godless perversions of the female act, divorce, failure of women to use their bodies in a way pleasing to God, psychopaths seeking innocence, to defile its beauty, out of sheer wickedness; man seeking evil for the good that may come of it, human beings manufactured by scientists, The Medical Industry creating disease to drive a market for itself, The Government Funded Secular Humisitic Suicide Induction Eugenics Engine, driven by the quest of The Masonic Temple to bring Osiris, the ancient Egyptian God, back from the dead; and Government run sorcery and occult practices.

It is interesting to note that the act of the human race eliminating itself from existence is a free will act, and is perfectly aligned with The Universal Justice God laid at the foundation of three dimensional reality, to which all that exists must be aligned. Anything not aligned with The Absolute Justice will cease to exist. Mankind is not aligned with Universal Justice because men sin. Unless man comes before God, confessing his sin, and seeking forgiveness, through The Precious Blood of Jesus Christ, the human race will eliminate itself in an act of obedience to The Lord God Almighty, which states: 'We the people refuse to align our behavior with Absolute Justice, which states: Nothing shall exist in Creation that is not aligned with The Absolute Justice Placed upon it by God, so we are eliminating ourselves from existence as a final act of obedience to The Lord God Almighty.

If anyone would like any references, please tell me. I don't want to list 7,000 references, but I do have rational bases, and foundation material for all the material presented.

I am a scientist. I know how to evaluate astrophysics research. I understand how a particle accelerator works, and why. I understand exactly why potassium cyanide kills the physical human body. I understand why an atomic bomb explodes, and I also understand many occult sciences, and much sorcery.


Your first sentence was negated by the final statenment in your last sentence.

Therefore you have no credibility with me or any other real scientist here.

Goodbye!

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Your first sentence was negated by the final statenment in your last sentence.

Therefore you have no credibility with me or any other real scientist here.

Goodbye!

Sorry to see you go so soon. I do accept criticism, although I do not consider you reply criticism, as it doesn't address any specific words, or concepts, and doesn't define anything noteworthy or novel. You fail to explain how two sentences in my op contradict each other. I know, 9 billion years from now, when sciforums.com is space dust, a superior life form will reconstitute this web site, and they will only be concerned with what you think about my post. Please clarify.

Sorry to see you go so soon. I do accept criticism, although I do not consider you reply criticism, as it doesn't address any specific words, or concepts, and doesn't define anything noteworthy or novel. You fail to explain how two sentences in my op contradict each other. I know, 9 billion years from now, when sciforums.com is space dust, a superior life form will reconstitute this web site, and they will only be concerned with what you think about my post. Please clarify.

Very well, I'll reply to you just this once more in order to clarify and remove all doubt since you couldn't see it for yourself.

In your statement that I quoted, the two parts that I've bolded in this re-quote are the ones that are clearly self-contradictory to any person of science:

"I am a scientist. I know how to evaluate astrophysics research. I understand how a particle accelerator works, and why. I understand exactly why potassium cyanide kills the physical human body. I understand why an atomic bomb explodes, and I also understand many occult sciences, and much sorcery."

There is technology available that would allow Immortality, and unrestricted travel, beyond light speed, because matter is not involved, and to make the highest evolved life form on earth Absolute Judge of All, with Absolute Power over physical reality.

This technology is hidden because forces oppose humans making the next evolutionary step, Immortality. The way this technology is kept hidden is by bombarding Western Society with sensuality, and gratification of the flesh. This makes humans essentially blind, only having use of the organic brain, and five extremely limited sensory channels.7,000 citations would hardly be necessary, but it would be nice if you included citations to support the claims you made. Such as the above comments.

Somebody should really move this to the Pseudoscience forum.

SwanSword's beliefs are the ultimate proof that, at least, some human brains have already begun devolving (note: it's not "de-evolution" but rather "devolution").

There is technology available that would allow Immortality, and unrestricted travel, beyond light speed, because matter is not involved, and to make the highest evolved life form on earth Absolute Judge of All, with Absolute Power over physical reality.

This technology is hidden because forces oppose humans making the next evolutionary step, Immortality. The way this technology is kept hidden is by bombarding Western Society with sensuality, and gratification of the flesh. This makes humans essentially blind, only having use of the organic brain, and five extremely limited sensory channels.”

7,000 citations would hardly be necessary, but it would be nice if you included citations to support the claims you made. Such as the above comments.

As I stated in the op: Limiting science to the realm of what can be observed using the primitive and weak human sensory channels, and analysis of this observation, limits science severely. If the electromagnetic spectrum were 500 miles long, the senses of hearing and vision could perceive 1 mm of it. This is very limited. Human vision is inadequate to perceive a subatomic particle, for two reasons: Light has too long a wavelength to be reflected by a subatomic particle, and the eye cannot resolve something so small.

This would be adequate proof human sensory channels are very limited. Jesus Christ brought technology to earth that allows Immortality for the human race. This is fully documented by The Roman Catholic Church, which, incidentally, is where all science comes from.

Scientific method was born in The Roman Catholic Church, and 70% of the scientists over the last 2200 years were Roman Catholic Clergy, including Gregor Mendel, A Catholic Monk who discovered genetics; Nicolas Copernicus, a Roman Catholic Priest, who discovered the earth is not the center of the Universe, allowing astrophysics to develop; Ruy Lopez, a Catholic Bishop and famous logician, who invented a system of chess play that made him world champion, and whose system is still unbeatable. He invented the castling move. Thomas Aquinas, a famous Catholic Priest, devised the scientific method used by Descartes, Newton, Einstein, Kepler, Oppenheimer, Goddard, and every other scientist.

Roman Catholicism is the inventor of science. Therefore, science without Roman Catholicism is incomplete, because science needs an absolute reference to define distance, weight, and time. Length, mass, and time are not useful without some reference standard that encompasses all three, but is unchanging. Also, without Roman Catholicism, science is hopelessly crippled because the agnostic human mind is not interfaced with 'The Mind', in 'The All', thereby having access to All Truth, All Wisdom, All Understanding, All Knowledge; and in a much simpler and cohesive form than reliance on the crude approximations and guess work secular science
sits upon.

I want to reiterate, science based only on what can be observed using the primitive narrow and weak sensory channels of the temporal human organism, and analysed with an intellect that cannot even calculate the precise positions of each subatomic particle in the universe, at infinitessimally small time increments, for all infinitessimally small time increments, and calculate all forces exerted by, and on everything, also at infinitessimally small time increments, so that when a coin was flipped, it could be flipped suchwise, taking into consideration that every particle and force in the Universe was taken into consideration, that it would always land on edge. God cannot play football because He can flip a coin predictably, having all knowledge of everything, and Ultimate Authority over All, so There would be no way God wouldn't know who was going to kick off. The fact that people think a coin toss is random is evidence that man lacks the ability, intellectually, and physically, to toss a coin predictably.

Man has as his fundamental right, to critically examine his environment, and himself, and build a life according to his observations. But, if man conforms himself to physical reality, looking after only the comforts of the flesh, he becomes temporal, and eventually will need to face complete annihilation from existence.

The man who progresses beyond the physical reality, and embraces Eternity, will become Eternal, and will escape death. Jesus Christ brought the technology necessary for man to become Immortal, and Have total reign over Creation, as Children of The Father, and Masters of Creation.

For more references to famous Catholic Scientists:
I'm not allowed to post links.

I give myself as reference standard to the fact that spiritual forces of darkness battle mankind's progress toward Immortality.

When man was first able to reason, and love, his mind knew Truth, and his heart knew innocence. A mind that knows Truth will love its own innocent heart because Truth loves innocence. This love of the mind for the heart IS the soul. In this way man is like God. If man seeks The Truth, The Mind of God, and man seeks Mercy and forgiveness, The Heart of God; this man will have a soul like The Soul of God, and will be like God, Immortal.

It should be intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer that:

A). Science has been reduced to a pillow of logic people can stick their heads under, while they plug each other's ears, close each other's eyes, and chant, "There is no God". But, everyone has to come out from under the pillow eventually. Logic is safe because its boundaries lie within the control of mankind. For every scientific fact there are equally plausible explanations confirming the fact, or denying the fact.

This leaves people a practically boundless arena for logical ideologue gladiators, to chase their own tails in an endless, but fruitless diversion from reality called 'pure human rationale'. The fantasies of science twist the mind into thought patterns that blind the soul, and entice the student to practice, with license, every godless perversion, so long as this doesn't affect the person's ability to perform his/her job, or the ability of another to perform his job, in the economic workforce, or Institution of higher learning.

This blindness precludes interface with The Mind, and renders the individual incapable of understanding the technology that would allow Everlasting Life. The reason this keeps happening to mankind is: There are principalities, powers, and world rulers of the kingdom of darkness that fool people into believing they can be immune to The Absolute Justice, and in control of everything important, if they dwell completely in the physical reality, amass understanding of a sufficiently large amount of facts to equal Truth, and ignore Divine Law.

Secular humanism, where morality is relative to physical desire, is not an invention of modern society. It is a tool the kingdom of darkness has used successfully, time and time again, to destroy The Sons of God the only way these Divine Sons can be destroyed: Suicide. Short of this fate, there is nothing that can kill a Son of God.

I would like to address the question of occult sciences and sorcery being included with secular sciences of physics, chemistry, biology, and mathematics. These are all the same. Occult practices and sorcery are applied science used to make money, while keeping people blind to the true cause of their problems.

Medicine is a good example. Practitioners of medical science view diseases as collections of specific symptoms, with little regard for the cause of the symptoms, unless these symptoms indicate a lethal condition, in which case the cause will be eliminated, but the typical treatment of illness by medical professionals involves masking unpleasant symptoms, thereby turning each patient into a cash cow, dependent on medical treatment to alleviate symptoms, and ignorant of the true cause of illness.

The reason doctors recommend a low fat diet to prevent heart disease is because low fat diets cause so many other diseases, the doctors are better off tricking people into believing low fat diets are the key to health, when, in fact, the problem is processed fats. All major pharmaceutical corporations own one or more food companies that make foods to drive demand for pharmaceuticals.

One of the key ingredients that drives demand for medical care is trans fat. Before the invention of trans fats, heart disease was practically nonexistent. Consumption of trans fats, present in all processed foods, suppresses immune response. This effect is so profound that trans fats have been used to prevent organ rejection in transplant patients.

The reason people recover in the hospital is not because of the thousands of dollars in medical treatment, but because hospitals don't use trans fats in food preparation for patients, unless the patient has good insurance, in which case trans fats will be fed to the patient, but discontinued so the illness will abate the day the patient's insurance runs out.

All allergies, multiple chemical sensitivitiy, and asthma can be eliminated by treating a patient for chronic candidiasis. That's the reason doctors don't test for Candida (pron. Cand-id-uh, commonly mispronounced can-Dee-dah). Candida yeast overgrowth is responsible for more chronic illness than any other thing. Key treatments exist, but these are not patentable, and doctors are paid kickbacks by drug manufacturers to only prescribe those substances listed as drugs by The FDA. Doctors can legally prescribe anything they think might help a patient.

Since medical facilities have become 'for profit' entities, they legally need to try to increase profits every year for the stockholders. They only way to do this is create more illness to be treated in these facilities. In modern society, the aim of a doctor is to create an illness through the treatment of another illness. This method has been proved to maximize profits.

When an industry is trusted to look after the public health trust, and this industry has created a sickness machine to feed its ever increasing appetite for cash, you have the thing that will eliminate mankind from existence.

This is an example of sorcerers practicing occult science.

Now that we have that out of the way, The human soul is the highest evolutionary form on earth. It is comprised of the love that a mind that knows Truth has for its own heart, if the heart knows either Forgiveness for sin, or innocence.

This life form is Immortal, if only to be taught how to be Immortal. The physical human body exists as an evolutionary relic the soul can use to learn how to become Immortal. By practicing The Sacraments of The Roman Catholic Church, and subjecting one's self to Roman Catholic Doctrine and Clergy, the soul is brought into union with God The Son. Subsequent to this, the soul is brought before God The Father, for adoption into The Holy Family of God, being given The Surname, or Family Name of God The Father, God The Son, and The Blessed Virgin Mother of God. This Child of God is a Son of Man, and the forces of darkness will mercilessly attack Him from every direction.

The two powerful demons of this age are Mammon and the jezebel spirit. Mammon induces fathers to value civic duty above family loyalty, and to make the standard of behavior toward others the minimum legal requirement. In other words, if a person isn't legally bound to do something for someone else, they shouldn't. If a person is forbidden by law to do something, they shouldn't.

This leaves love and forgiveness, sacrifice and loyalty, kindness and decency, generosity and chastity, fidelity and family unity on the don't do list, but precludes outright murder in favor of deceiving children into suicide, because risk of loss of liberty is nonexistent if only deceit is used to murder people. This is Mammon's favortie pastime, because murder and mayhem don't have the twisted flavor of suicide. Demons love it when a person commits suicide, because the final impenitent sin of murder lies on the dead victim, insuring the demise of the soul.

This is why suicide bombing is such an abomination. The suicide bomber believes he will be rewarded by an endless supply of excellent food, eternal virgins, and strong drink. This is true, but Heaven is not the place souls will have unrestricted ability to practice gratification of gluttony, experience constant drunkenness, or engage in endless gratification of lust. That place is Hell, because people who can commit sin without anything to restrain them are in Hell.

The jezebel spirit induces girls and women to rebel against the God ordained authority of their fathers and husbands over them. Mammon induces these husbands to retaliate against their disobedient wives, not with forgiveness, but by harming her children. Mammon loves the jezebel spirit, but the only way Mammon and the jezebel spirit can make love is by inhabiting a man and a woman who were given these demons by their parents, who also marry each other, and then inducing the charateristic psychosis of each.

The ultimate goal of this duo is divorce. When a girl submits to conquest; her flesh pierced by her lover, her blood sacrifice of innocence is drawn unto the man, from behind the seal God placed over it, and Nature whispers soft engravings on the hearts of the two young lovers, 'Until death you shall not part'.

If this couple is divided by an occult ceremony; where a leprechaun poses as a judge, and court magicians, dressed in suits and ties, look with reverence and awe, in the sequel to 'The Emperor's New Cloths', called 'Divorce Hearing'; performing motions sacred to the freemasonic institution, and uttering ancient Latin to the freemasonic god; as the disguised leprechaun engages in an unholy rape of the wife, using the phallic instrument he glances across the last page of the judgment, inducing the husband to believe his wife can now legally usurp the God ordained authority he has over her, according to The Physical Laws of Nature, specifically, The Physical Law of Marriage; and refuse him access to her body, for his pleasure, and to reproduce himself; one spouse needs to die so Nature will not be made a liar for having whispered soft engravings on the hearts of two young lovers, 'Until death you shall not part'.

I'll tell you the difference between God and Nature. God will have Mercy. Nature will never forget Her words, and She will take a human life to make proper accounting for a couple Married by Natural Law, and separated while the breath of life remained in each.

Historically the life taken belonged to the ex-husband, who would sacrifice himself so his children and their mother might go on. The reason Mammon and the jezebel spirit want to do this is because it insures the husband's soul will burn for eternity for the final impenitent sin of suicide, and also insures the widow will have a demon to love her, who drives away all interested men, going so far as to kill its human male competitors for the woman; and impoverishes her, forces her to work slave labor, without gratitude from anyone, and teaches her children they are worthless because they don't have a father, and the father they did have comitted suicide, which means, since they came from their father, they are going to commit suicide too.

The woman, who thought all her problems would magically vanish if she could just get rid of her husband, who was the source of her problems, now faces the darkness of feminism and secular humanism; her children being educated in the government secular humanisitic indoctrination system, which is part of The Governmental Freemasonic Secular Humanisitic Suicide Induction Eugenics Engine, that is using suicide to eliminate people with family values, so getting new humans through families can be replaced with industrial processes, where humans are grown into adults, and programmed with Aldous Huxley and James Joyce Catholic Hatred being wired directly into their minds.

Criminal behavior has now been engineered out of the manufactured humans. This has reduced intelligence by 40 IQ points. A solution must be found to increase work output. Several genes from the spinal meningitis pathogen are spliced into human chromosomes, creating a human without serotonin, and consequently no need for sleep.

This has lowered IQs another 40 points, but the ability of these new models to work 24/7 makes up the decrease in intelligence. Now no one will be offended if someone else is smarter than they are, because everyone is too stupid.

The lack of serotonin was driving people to tear their own skin off, so a drug was invented that gave all the benefits of gin and Roman Catholicism, without the alcoholism and hangovers, or Forgiveness and Immortality. This drug was named Hope.

The problem of food was interfering with profits. Algae was implanted under the skin of new people, making them photosynthetic feeders. Hope was pumped into all manufactured humans. Nonessential body parts, such as female breasts, male reproductive organs, one eye, one ear, hair, nails, and one leg were engineered out of the human genome.

People worked 24/7 for the biotech firms who created them. Satan had destroyed the human soul, but in so doing, eliminated any purpose for Himself, and thus disappeared in a puff of logic, replaced by the biotech firms.

Ok kids, it's time for bed. I hope you enjoyed that heart warming story.

Copyright 2007 by SwanSword, all rights reserved
Permission for linking to this post is granted.

SwanSword, I really love your writing style, but I'm afraid that it is simply too verbose for me to read your ridiculously long posts completely.

Do YOU have any practical knowledge of this alleged true/Catholic Science? Are YOU immortal because of it?

It is an empirical truth, and maxim of evolution, that higher order life forms can only evolve from lower order life forms, and a higher order life forms never evolve into lower order life forms. Agreed?

no, that is bullshit.

This is a quite lovely diatribe, far above the usual standard, against the modern magick systems we laughingly call science but, unfortunately, offers nothing - nothing - in the way of a graspable replacement.

As a foolish former follower of all things scientific, I'm left in a horrible (and actually rather embarrassing) limbo. What to do, what to do..

It is an empirical truth, and maxim of evolution, that higher order life forms can only evolve from lower order life forms, and a higher order life forms never evolve into lower order life forms. Agreed?
no, that is bullshit.
Charming. Which of those many truths do you so bluntly and unelaboratingly dispute?

Ok, seriously now, please move this thread out of the science section.

Charming. Which of those many truths do you so bluntly and unelaboratingly dispute?

all of them basically.

ok then, I'm curious, and prostrate myself before the fount of your infinite wisdom: examples of higher order lifeforms evolving into lower order ones?

ok then, I'm curious, and prostrate myself before the fount of your infinite wisdom: examples of higher order lifeforms evolving into lower order ones?

you make the mistake of accepting the concept of higher order.

if you dare to step over that specific rape victim you could commit rape yourself and point the finger to parasitic orders.

She was like that when I found her, ossifer. [Brought to you courtesy of BastTasteJokes, Inc.]

What the Hell are you blithering about!?! I've never sucked the blood of my corpulent host in my life! Maybe you should say more. And preferably in English.

She was like that when I found her, ossifer. [Brought to you courtesy of BastTasteJokes, Inc.]

What the Hell are you blithering about!?! I've never sucked the blood of my corpulent host in my life! Maybe you should say more. And preferably in English.

why say more on a false statement by making more false statements.

I would think it would be more interesting to actually discuss the topic again based on a proper approximation of biological reality.

/frown

I don't remember the name of the species, but there is an anaerobic bacteria that lives about 2km below the surface and was discovered in a South African mine.
Any way that bacteria still possesses inactive genes for aerobic respiration and it means that it has evolved from a surface living, oxygen breathing bacteria.

Change the environment and the organism tries to adjust to it.
If the new environment requires simpler biology and the more complex structure is inefficient it may over time become a "lower order" organism, if you buy that separation.

ok, I'm beginning to see the problem with the higher/lower order thing. Since when did breathing oxygen, living on the surface, inventing iPods, etc. make anything superior? Both we and our anaerobic, bottom-dwelling friends have built a cosy nest and we like it there, each according the other mutual respect. Quite.

in the line of Avatar's example

1. Modern lynx have two sets of lower molars. In the fossil record felines (not varda) have lacked the second molar since the Miocene.
2. some lizards in South America - digits re-evolved after loss of digits.
3. some scientists claim stick insects have re-evolved wings (Whiting et al 2003: nature 421:264).
4. digits that re-evolve are morphologically different.
5. re-evolution of ovipary (snakes)

Your first sentence was negated by the final statenment in your last sentence.

Therefore you have no credibility with me or any other real scientist here.

Goodbye!
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You object to pseudo science in the pseudoscience section:confused:

Just ignore him Swansword!

this wasn't in pseudoscience till I started posting in this thread.

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You object to pseudo science in the pseudoscience section:confused:

Just ignore him Swansword!

Cool it, Bub! It was originally in a science forum!!:bugeye:

this wasn't in pseudoscience till I started posting in this thread.

Aaah, I see.
My apologies Read-only.


Swansword.
This is the section for non mainstream scientific theories.
Alternative Theories might be a better title for the section.

Aaah, I see.
My apologies Read-only.


Swansword.
This is the section for non mainstream scientific theories.
Alternative Theories might be a better title for the section.

Hmmm... "Alternative Theories." I didn't realize that was another term for woo-wooism. ;) How about something more to the point - like "Crackpot Posts?" :D

why is this in pseudoscience? the man says he is a scientist.

"Psychoceramics" -- the study of cracked pots.

Many species of marine life have lost their eyesight after living in the depths for a while.

What's "higher" and what's "lower"? Seemingly simple creatures that look related to other simple creatures in fact descended from apparently more complex ones. Look at cases of neoteny, when the larval stage no longer goes through the trouble of becoming an adult.

Hmmm... "Alternative Theories." I didn't realize that was another term for woo-wooism. ;) How about something more to the point - like "Crackpot Posts?" :D

Now now.
Calm down.
It's only a website.

Now now.
Calm down.
It's only a website.

Calm down? I'm having fun poking at obvious woo-woos and other varieties of crackpots. :D

They are such easy targets that it's hard not to. ;) Sort of like shooting fish in a barrel.

I tried to make this short.

SwanSword, I really love your writing style, but I'm afraid that it is simply too verbose for me to read your ridiculously long posts completely.

Do YOU have any practical knowledge of this alleged true/Catholic Science? Are YOU immortal because of it?

Hi Zyxoas,

I wasn't sure if you were aware part of your nik is the name of a fractal generator, 'xoas'. I don't have any trouble concentrating on a single subject for long periods. I write on this forum how I write. I don't know any other way. But I'm glad you like my style. There is a book coming out that makes people immortal if they read it. It isn't a voluntary choice, it just sort of happens.

I can't come right out and admit I'm Immortal, because that would be putting Immortality to the test. Anytime an Immortal tests his Immortality, he dies. Immortality requires faith, above all things, but it also requires diligence in the practice of becoming Immortal.

Future technologies, if man is to escape the machine age, will rely on using Light as a language. The patterns of Light created by neurons in the brain are a language induced into the organism by the soul. To discover or make use of of these Light patterns requires submission to God.

God will never hand over the keys of knowledge allowing control of the three dimensional reality to a race primarily preoccupied with television, doughnuts, money, boobs, and who largely ignore His Love and Mercy.

With higher knowledge comes greater responsibility. If mankind cannot handle machine technology, he will never grasp the continuum that stretches from The Ultimate Source of All, into the three dimensional reality, becoming subject to The Physical Laws of Nature, and time; but remaining undiminished, speaking a Language that will allow mankind to evolve past reliance on artificial structures, machines, digital electronic data processing equipment, organic fuel, and the sun.

How could we ever gain freedom from dependency on the sun? The Bible tells this in simple language: 'Their Father will dry every tear from their eyes. There is Living Water flowing through Me. If anyone should ask, I will give him this Water to drink. They will need neither the sun, nor lamp to give them Light; For their Holy Father will give them Light for Eternity.'

Ancient Egyptian records are more complex, and older than The Bible. These records indicate hominids, using Light physics, built huge underground cities, and used their superior understanding to induce harmonics into stones and earth that would cause emission of beautiful Light from the minerals. They also built sarcophagi to place the dead within, and several experts in the use of Light technology would cause the sarcophagus to focus harmonics at the frequencies of biological bases, suchwise that the dead would leave the three dimensional reality, into The Eternity.

One very unique feature of these underground cities in Egypt is no allowance for storage of the dead. The Physics of Light can be used to intelligently alter human chromosomes. Among other recorded data are the results of a failed 6,000 year human genetics experiment to create a superhuman race.

It is indicated that the chemical map of the experimental organisms was altered to create a blood sacrifice of innocence inside the females, that would atone for the accursedness put in mans' seed by original sin. There is corroborating evidence available for this.

When a Caucasian virgin is pierced, blood and water issue from her. This can be ascertained by using only human sensory channels. The water consecrates her marriage bed for creation of new blessed life in her holy and chaste womb. The blood from her, from behind the seal God placed over her innocence, seals the blood covenant of marriage between God, Who gave the blessed virgin her innocent sacrifice of atonement, and sealed this safely within her; the virgin's bridegroom, who draws forth her innocence unto himself, as the blood mixed with the water penetrates the mans scrotum, into his testicles, and repairs genetic mutations on the DRD dopamine receptor genes series 1-6, which are responsible for humans being naturally attracted to sin.

DRD gene mutations cause a surplus of neuropeptidase enzyme that breaks down dopamine before the neurotransmitter has been in the reward trigger nerve synapse long enough to elicit reward feelings of peace love joy, a sense of well being, and/or a sense of accomplishment. Caucasians are afflicted with these mutations, and chastity is the chemically proved treatment.

When a child learns he gets a feeling he cannot get from display of appropriate behavior, his heart quickly deviates to sinful activities that cause a spike in dopamine levels. This sates the need to feel reward feelings, because sin, in its infancy, gives abundant dopamine in the nervous system.

But the spike of neurotransmitter is followed by a cataclysmic plunge, bringing the sensation of guilt. The sin must be repeated at regular time intervals, but with each repetition the dopamine spike lowers, and the plunge deepens. After only a short time the mutant needs to commit the sin just to break even on the amount of dopamine he had before the sin became an entrenched pattern of intentional sin.

The victim soon can't break even on neurotransmitter, no matter how much the sin is repeated. The victim has committed so much sin to keep practicing his addiction, incontinence, crime, or psychopathy that he now faces serious consequences from pathogenic disease, organ damage from chemical dependency and alcoholism, a seared conscience from illicit or godless sexual perversions performed using him, spiritual blindness from looking at pornography, the jealousy of an enraged husband because of adultery, and/or legal consequences for using psychopathic crime as a means to get more dopamine.

If the police capture a suspected psychopath, the psychopath will always try to keep robbing others of their innocence by obscenity, rudeness, exposing himself, making lewd gestures, or anything that sickens the soul. If the suspect gets no feedback of revulsion in other people, he goes crazy. It is then that he will confess. The only person he can rob of innocence is himself. He confesses everything, and usually a little bit more than what he is actually responsible for.

In simple and understandable language, the sinner is blinded by the sin. When the sin has matured, and taken root, Satan removes the blindfold. The sin doesn't work anymore. Despair quickly envelops the sinner, and an incredibly strong sense of justice screams from the tormented soul to make right what went wrong. Forgiveness is the only road to justice.

Secular humanism removes forgiveness from humanity. If a person wants justice, it is gotten through the courts, which operate on vengeance alone. The judicial system is all about taking the sin someone gave to someone else, and giving it back to the other person in the form of forcing him to pay money he doesn't want to pay, imprisonment, or some other undesirable consequence. No one forgives.

Without forgiveness there is no love. Without love there is no reason to live. Mankind, as a service to itself, breeds a serial killer, who is cold, calculating, and absolutely will not settle for anything less than killing the entire human race. This man is a sodomite, and he is smooth. He uses his utter contempt for God as an excuse to commit any sort of deceit, and twist the truth in any way, without regard for anyone but himself.

Right!! He becomes a politician, in an Islamic country, who develops enough nuclear armament to start a world war, and kill the infidels, while martyring the chosen of god in the reprisal. To him it is no more than mass murder, but he sells the fanatics who help him on the infidel/martyr concept

-Back to Light physics

This Light was used for agriculture, navigation, power generation, and Immortality. The tomb of Osiris, the god, has been found in one of these underground cities. Underground cities exist everywhere on earth, up to 27 km under ground, and can comfortably accommodate tens of thousands of inhabitants, with their property, livestock, and everyone's own bathroom and bedroom.

This is no big secret. The United States Air Force has a base built inside of an underground city, dug out by prehistoric residents of earth. There is a concerted effort to buy off internet domains that contain detailed information on known inhabitants of these cities, and exact layouts, although some of them are open to the public (Carlsbad Caverns, New Mexico is a small part of a much larger complex that houses a military base). This is causing a dewebifying effect, where many links are dead.

If a person is to have any hope of extracting The Truth from behind information pollution so thick and repulsive, it's like all the used toilet paper in the history of mankind covering up The Pearl of Great Price, or The Pearl of Great Wisdom; he needs to first admit he is going to dig into Hell, and climb back out with the keys to all knowledge, without Satan laying hold of him.

This is hazardous. I don't advise anyone try it, because it hurts like you wouldn't believe, it takes more than what you have, it takes you further than you wanted to go, but if one is innocent, having no guile in his spirit, The Lord God Almighty will in no way impute sin to this man.

What this means is: To find The Truth requires innocence, and freedom from deceit, about one's self, and God. I will never deny the pain, and utter defeat, when I was just inches away from grabbing my prize, right out from under my enemy's nose. I ended up with what I came for, and I was never in any real danger, but I was shot, on life support, and attacked in every way by the forces of darkness.

I know about what lies beyond human sensory channels. I know The Western World are drunk on teachings that tickle the listener's ears. They are about to be blindsided like a blind pedestrian getting hit by a speeding car. Yet, they cling to statistics that indicate death is unlikely.

Mothers will be boiling their children in their own milk, and sacrificing their infant children to false gods, by tossing the infants on a bed of hot coals, and listening to the body sizzle, as the baby goes into shock and dies. And the depraved people will seek even deeper evil.

But that's a necessary evolutionary step that will destroy the wicked and perfect the just. I know this is going to happen because it's been happening for aeons.

Most people have been alive for between zero years and one century. The powers of darkness have been stealing souls, during one specific period in the galactic season of Sol, which repeats on a 26,000 year cycle. That's the time it takes for Sol to complete its galactic rotation.

Part of this season is a worldwide cataclysm that destroys all above ground life on earth. The strategy used to net the most souls is to wait until about 20 centuries before the next cataclysm, or world, and slowly lead mankind into secular humanism, where his natural desire to know Truth becomes an addiction to statistical data that gives the individual the illusion of control, until they get stabbed, at which point their 0.02% percent chance of being the victim of violence just changed to 100%.

That's the problem with statistics. There is no way to predict “WHO” will be next. But there is. The person who practices The Sacraments of The Roman Catholic Church; according to authentic Roman Catholic Doctrine, part of which is The Holy Bible, stays free from sin, and the near occasion of sin, uses her body in a way pleasing to God, to reproduce God's Image, and remains chaste: Chastity and obedience never being found without the other; will never be victimized after she proves to God she is serious. If she waits until she's being stalked by a psychopath, it's not going look very sincere to God.

God lives up in Heaven. No one ever comes to visit, or just to talk. They only show up when they want something. If someone came to my house, always looking for miracles to bail him out of consequences for his own actions; and after I performed these miracles for him, he would disappear, and not want to have anything to do with me, until the next time he got in a worse situation; there would come a point where I would question his sincerity. But, his persistence in banging on my door would earn him what he needed.

Be persistent, and bang on God's door. Don't expect an answer right away. Just keep doing what Mother Church teaches. After you have been properly prepared, you will be brought before Jesus Christ for Judgment. You need to accept The Precious Blood of Jesus Christ, shed for you on the cross, for the remission of sin, and your free. No more problems. Unless you are blind, and you want to stay that way, by blaming other people for your own faults, and thinking of how many people you know who violate a tenet in The Bible, and how much better the world would be if everyone would do things the right way.

The Truth is only to be grasped by those who are able to bear it. Like gold, it is where you find it. Like sudden riches, The Truth will serve as ransom for your life.

Copyright 2007 by SwanSword. All rights reserved.
Permission to hyperlink is granted.

Jesus already offers people immortality.

It's the work of the devil to lure people with falls tales of immortality.

Ah, SwanSword, good times, you remind me of some lost posters. I look forward to further entertainment.
Oh, and I agree with spurious.

Put this in gendergenie and see what gender I am.

ok, I'm beginning to see the problem with the higher/lower order thing. Since when did breathing oxygen, living on the surface, inventing iPods, etc. make anything superior? Both we and our anaerobic, bottom-dwelling friends have built a cosy nest and we like it there, each according the other mutual respect. Quite.

Dear RedArmy,

Appreciation for, and awe of Creation is not to be substituted for Awe of The Creator. The Creator specifically wanted mankind to know Him as a Father, with Masculinity, because original sin causes human fathers to be imperfect.

Wonderment at the facets and workings of organic life will only divert a person from what truly drives this focus on Creation, and the infinite complexities balanced to make an ecosphere friendly to the formation of life.

But there are some problems with the story of evolution that The Theory of Creation irons out nicely.

Here are some things to think about:

How did humans evolve through the period between infants first crapping without warning, and the invention of diapers?

Why is the only sentient being known the only animal that suffers greatly if he doesn't wipe himself after defaecation?

What evolutionary purpose does trading a maintenance free rear end for comfort in a sitting position serve if there aren't any chairs?

What evolutionary purpose would be served by women having lymph and blood that is sealed behind a hymen, that is released the first time she makes intimate contact with a man, but never after that?

What evolutionary purpose could the ability to act according to beliefs, regardless of the consequences, serve?

Why are humans the only animals that engage in mating behavior when the female is not fertile? What evolutionary purpose could this possibly serve?

Wouldn't you think the animals who expended the minimum amount of biological resources on mating, whilst reproducing at the maximum rate, which for humans is ordinarily one child per two people every year, which requires at most three mating acts; and the most on procuring what they need to physically survive would be favoured by natural selection to dominate?

Where did spoken language come from? Why didn't people develop telepathy instead of winding up hopelessly entangled in the limitations of conveying ideas by the indirect vehicle of the mouth uttering sounds? That is the least efficient way to communicate.

-SwanSword

Why are humans the only animals that engage in mating behavior when the female is not fertile? What evolutionary purpose could this possibly serve?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sexual_social_behavior

Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded by the females in exchange for food. Bonobos are the only non-human apes to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male), tongue kissing, and oral sex.[15]

Anytime an Immortal tests his Immortality, he dies.
Sorta like telling everyone you can swim, until you actually get into the pool, hmmm?

It's only a website.
A very important website. :mad:

It is an empirical truth, and maxim of evolution, that higher order life forms can only evolve from lower order life forms, and a higher order life forms never evolve into lower order life forms. Agreed?I am not an expert on this, but your statements do not ring true. As I understand it from my reading there are lots of instances where 'advanced' evolutionary features are lost. I think one of the other posters made mention of a specific example above, but I believe there are many of these.
Secondly, I believe the notion of higher order lifeforms is not popular among biologists. They might refer to a creature bieng more complex, but that is a different thing.

Since your opening statement seems to be wrong I'm afraid I didn't invest the time to read the rest of your post. (No disrespect, I just have a family to look after.:))

Since your opening statement seems to be wrong I'm afraid I didn't invest the time to read the rest of your post.
Me too, it's pretty soon apparent that the post is fundamentally flawed.

if people are de-evolving, why does my son have no wisdom teeth? I bet people are being born without an appendix as well.

I am sure Ibn Batuta, Al-Idrisi, Hero of Alexandria, Maimonides, Hippocrates, et al would be suprised to learn that all science came from the Roman Catholic Church.

no, that is bullshit.

Such an erudite analysis ...

SwanSword's beliefs are the ultimate proof that, at least, some human brains have already begun devolving (note: it's not "de-evolution" but rather "devolution").

The common man discredits the source of Truth with insult and innuendo. The truly wise topple armies with the pen.

-SwanSword

Everything you've said that's even been within smelling distance of the empirically testable has been proved wrong. Is there a good, as yet unstated, reason why we should believe any of the rest?

The common man discredits the source of Truth with insult and innuendo. The truly wise topple armies with the pen.

-SwanSword

Sorry, but you can't even topple a few forum posters,
and, as redarmy said, you've been proven wrong here quite a few times.

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This is a quite lovely diatribe, far above the usual standard, against the modern magick systems we laughingly call science but, unfortunately, offers nothing - nothing - in the way of a graspable replacement.

As a foolish former follower of all things scientific, I'm left in a horrible (and actually rather embarrassing) limbo. What to do, what to do..

The proper programming yields the proper state of mind, which yields Absolute Power. In the end analysis, I want to harness the technology that yields Immortality, and Absolute Power over the three dimensional reality. This is the technology of Roman Catholicism. It is far more advanced than any machine technology, chemistry, biology, or mathematics; although these can be used to solve problems caused by sin.

Medical scientists, who are applied scientists, primarily chemistry oriented, also referred to as physicians, or doctors; treat the temporal punishments for sin, manifest in the physical body as collections of uncomfortable symptoms, or disease; thereby eliminating the uncomfortable warning signs that the soul is going to burn in Hell, and leaving the Eternal punishments for sin fully intact. Disease is due to descendants bearing the guilt for the sin of their dead ancestors. There is enough genetic evidence to prove that predisposition to sin is passed on genetically from ancestors to descendants.

What would a person rather have? control or happiness? Truth cannot be grasped, and made subject to the finder. Truth will flee if She is held too tightly, and the senseless heart that tried to capture Truth is darkened by the illusion that the beauty she sees is not a mirage, but is full of goodness to heal her wounds of injustice. What she finds is emptiness and evil; more of the same pain for which she sought healing.

She wants most of all to have the man who loves her willing to die for her; For if she cannot gain security through his love, she will gain it through his strength. The guilt for intentionally sterilizing herself, and performing godless perversions of the female act, slowly builds, and the woman needs a sacrifice to take her sin to the grave.

This is the concept behind The Sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Jesus IS The Man, Who Loves each woman beyond measure, with Mercy so deep He took her sin upon Himself, and took it to the grave. It is a natural tendency for women who don't use their bodies in a way pleasing to God, to reproduce God's Image, to aim the guilt they naturally feel in disobeying God ordained Nature, at their mates; filing for divorce en masse, fooled by lawyers into believing their lives will get better after they get rid of their husbands.

In the courtroom, 10,000 damned souls of women who filed for divorce speak into the wife's mind, "It's better to rule in Hell, than be subservient in Heaven". And that is exactly what happens. 99% of all divorced women are impoverished within two years, working slave labor, raising kids alone, with no gratitude from anyone, and either her ex-husband, or one of her children kills him/herself to atone for the separation of marriage partners while the breath of life remained in both.

Practicing the occult is a much more effective way to be happy than trying to fill one's mind with random, chaotic, disordered facts, strung into some theory by wild conjecture, magic particles, theoretical physical entities that cannot be observed, and have only mathematical manifestations.

The technology of superior power, transcendence of physical existence, life that is pure consciousness, with limitless ability to know Truth, and Will that is perfectly aligned with God The Father, The Immutable Source of All Power; is much more powerful than technology limited to the three dimensional reality.

I can say I have everything I ever hoped for. My life is perfect, every day. Anything I tell my Heavenly Father I would like, He gives to me. I want for nothing, and I am perfectly happy all the time.

That's because I know what I want. I have always known what I wanted. I have searched for decades, everywhere. What I wanted was always available to me, but I couldn't see it. I was blinded by abominable ideas, and questions that should never be asked. I looked in science books for the answer to why there was no love in the world, and what the purpose of life could be without it.

You laugh at what you can't see. There was a time people were infected with parasites because they never attributed their sicknesses to impure water. Why? Because they couldn't see anything in the water. It looked pure.

In 1346, The Pope commissioned all of Europe to find the cause of the black death. The scientific solution was given by a group of six French doctors: 'Because of an unfortunate astrological occurrence, where Mars, Jupiter, and Venus gathered into the same zodiac three years previous, fumes and vapors are being emitted by the earth, causing the plague.

'Treatment and prevention should consist of avoiding rain water, sleeping only during darkness, and never during the day. All fish and poultry should be avoided. Thinking happy thoughts will prevent being overcome by sickness, and focus on wealth brings joy that instills the will to live.'

The way we look upon these impetuously ignorant physicians of the 1300s, who did nothing but swindle the public with terminology and expensive, but useless treatments, is the way God sees mankind; impetuously ignorant, misguided to the point of elimination, and damned to dwell in darkness because we think we are in control because we can understand how creation works.

Here is a challenge to anyone who feels like arguing: Using your will, maximum strength, scrunching your eyelids, and with you face turning beet red; create a Universe. I'll give you some pointers. You need to put your new universe somewhere besides where this one is, because there is already a universe in that spot. Universes are made of photons, some of which are raw, and most of which are geometrically configured to form energy, plasma, empty space, matter, and singularity.

You will need to know how to arrange four axes that are all perpendicular to each other. After you fold together the photons, you will need to speak the words that cannot be uttered with the mouth, and then wait five billion years for things to start looking right. If you did it right, there will be a sentient life form that evolves, and is Immortal. You will then be a god, and expected to know everything, have all power, and be able to solve any problem.

Try it. If modern secular science has no way to create a universe, it can take a seat with the rest of the students being taught by The One Who can Create a Universe.

-SwanSword

There is enough genetic evidence to prove that predisposition to sin is passed on genetically from ancestors to descendants.
Name it.

p.s. I think you're a great addition to Pseudoscience subforum, all others have been vanquished.

I don't have time to read all that right now when there's so much else to read and so little time to do it. It looks interesting, so I'll read it in the morning, I promise.

I hate to generalise about these things but maybe this is a valid extrapolation about us unbelievers: it's possible that we're just busier.

Name it.
Phrenology.

Phrenology is a laughing stock of judicial sociology and was refered to as pseudoscience even in the 19th century.

"Higher orders"? Not that business again.

Swansword, you might make a case for that in only the grossest possible manner imaginable; multicellular organisms being more complex than single-cellular, mammals than sponges and so forth. But the variance around such a position is so wide as to render the comparison unimportant. As spurious indicated, any number of evolutionary lineages are losing, modifying or regaining diverse organs and functions in the process of their own evolution. Are they, too, "regressing"? Or merely being selected against one or another character state by their environment, or randomly radiating into unexploited ecological niches? Directionality is not really a reasonable concept.

In your statement that I quoted, the two parts that I've bolded in this re-quote are the ones that are clearly self-contradictory to any person of science:

"I am a scientist. I know how to evaluate astrophysics research. I understand how a particle accelerator works, and why. I understand exactly why potassium cyanide kills the physical human body. I understand why an atomic bomb explodes, and I also understand many occult sciences, and much sorcery."

RO,

If I am to understand correctly: It is your understanding that a person cannot house understanding of two different disciplines in the same mind? A person cannot be know both Law and Medicine, both know how to be a Postmaster and an Electrician? Know both secular science and applied science? I contend a single mind is free to understand as it is able, as much as its capacity allows.

-SwanSword

SwanSword's beliefs are the ultimate proof that, at least, some human brains have already begun devolving (note: it's not "de-evolution" but rather "devolution").

Hi Again, Zyxoas,

'De-evolution' packs more punch than devolution, and is easier to understand. I am an evolutionary prototype for those who can grasp technology so advanced it appears to be magic. Any sufficiently advanced technology appears to be magic, until it is understood. Because I don't want this technology being used for selfish gain, I make it public. No one is required to like it.

-SwanSword

I don't remember the name of the species, but there is an anaerobic bacteria that lives about 2km below the surface and was discovered in a South African mine.
Any way that bacteria still possesses inactive genes for aerobic respiration and it means that it has evolved from a surface living, oxygen breathing bacteria.
Change the environment and the organism tries to adjust to it.
If the new environment requires simpler biology and the more complex structure is inefficient it may over time become a "lower order" organism, if you buy that separation.

Here are the ranks of order for Kingdom Animalia:

Lowest to highest

1). Cannot reproduce without host DNA
2). Single celled reproduction by mitosis
3). Ability to live without being surrounded by the solvent, water
4). Groups of independent unicelled organisms that cooperate
5). Symbiotic life forms
6). Organisms that are able to ingest food and water, and digest
7). Organisms composed of many differentiated cells, dependent on one another for the survival of the organism
8). Sexual reproduction
9). Faculties of emotion
10). Willingness to make sacrifices out of love
11). Faculties of reason
12). Use of tools
13). Use of fire
14). Use of Agriculture
15). Formation of civilizations governed by what are best known today as The Ten Commandments
16). Ability to use patterns of beliefs to solve the problems created by temporal physical existence.
17). Discovery of Absolute Truth, and assimilation of Absolute Power.

All animals other than humans are eight orders from finishing their evolution. Man is one order from finishing his evolution.

-SwanSword

1. Modern lynx have two sets of lower molars. In the fossil record felines (not varda) have lacked the second molar since the Miocene.
2. some lizards in South America - digits re-evolved after loss of digits.
3. some scientists claim stick insects have re-evolved wings (Whiting et al 2003: nature 421:264).
4. digits that re-evolve are morphologically different.
5. re-evolution of ovipary (snakes)

None of these examples demonstrate a change in evolutionary order. Natural selection allows a species to adapt to a changing environment over time. Because an environment changes, and an evolutionary artifact becomes useful for a second, third, or seventh time; does not mean the organism has increased or decreased its rank of order on the evolutionary scale.

Also, digging up skeletons, and then deciding who has the most credible guess at what kind of animal it belonged to; and then making the person with the best credential's version the truth that mankind will forever believe, until that expert retires, and another glory hound cooks up some other fantasy fitting the tiniest amount of evidence; is pure conjecture based on flawed rationale, with no other purpose than to give people an excuse not to believe in God, and therefore license to commit sin.

The average IQ of someone with PhD. after their name is 95. Credentials guarantee not that someone is an expert, or even competent, but only that he was subjected to secular humanisitic indoctrination at a post secondary school level, for a given number of hours.

Take a PhD.ed clinical psychologist for an example, he will have a client come to his office, have that client confess sin for an hour; Either sin other people did to the client, or sins the client committed; but the psychologist will not offer forgiveness for the sin, because if he did, he wouldn't have that client to keep paying him for not forgiving his sins.

A person can go to confession at no cost, be forgiven by Jesus Christ, and that's it. They don't need to go back unless they sin again. Secular humanism means big money for a lot of people. The key to reducing The Western World into robots, that get fed the slime oozing out of the television, the lies spread by women's magazines about things as crazy as women faking orgasms, and women wanting mentulate men; is to keep people from hearing The Name Jesus Christ.

I can tell you from personal experience that a large male organ hurts Caucasian women. If a guy wants to date Caucasian women, and he has more than the average guy, she's going to complain.

-SwanSword

Hmmm... "Alternative Theories." I didn't realize that was another term for woo-wooism. How about something more to the point - like "Crackpot Posts?" Calm down? I'm having fun poking at obvious woo-woos and other varieties of crackpots.

They are such easy targets that it's hard not to. Sort of like shooting fish in a barrel.

There's a term for inability to express one's self constructively, but I can't remember what it is. It's easy to discredit what a person has never read, or can't understand. Most people function under the assumption that if they can't understand something, or aren't interested in something, that those things aren't relevant or important. This shows that there are definite limits to intellect, but none whatsoever for stupidity.

Jesus already offers people immortality. It's the work of the devil to lure people with falls tales of immortality.

I knew someone could say it. That's what I'm trying to tell this board. The technology that comes from Jesus Christ, much unlike machine technology, promises to bring mankind into an age where Immortality is the goal of technology. Technologies offered by godless sciences will cause everyone to eventually wind up dead. That is not the course we want to pursue.

Death is bad. Life is good. We don't want death. We want Life. Ask any person if he wants to live, or die, and he will say he wants to live, unless he's looking for sympathy, and says he wants to die, in which case if you volunteer to kill him with a pistol, saving him the trouble, he'll admit he doesn't really want to die.

-SwanSword

Ah, SwanSword, good times, you remind me of some lost posters. I look forward to further entertainment.
Oh, and I agree with spurious.

I'm glad you're entertained, because that's why I write. How do posters get lost?, And if I'm here, how can I remind you of someone who got lost? I seem to be getting mostly comments about me, and not my posts. I don't mind. People persecute me, subtly cut me down, fly into blind fits of homicidal rage (I've had six attempts on my life within six months, six days, and six hours of each other.), I was accused of having disordered thinking by a judge after I gave testimony in court. I invoked my right to speak, for the record, and said, "For the record: The judge has made a medical finding of disordered thinking without the proper credentials". The judge ordered everything regarding disordered thinking stricken.

Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded by the females in exchange for food. Bonobos are the only non-human apes to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male), tongue kissing, and oral sex.

That is nonsense. What is being mistaken for justification within the animal kingdom for humans to engage in every godless pagan sex ritual, is not sexual in nature. Primates are not capable of developing nonproductive sexual behavior, because the entire species would quickly be annihilated.

-SwanSword

Anytime an Immortal tests his Immortality, he dies.
Sorta like telling everyone you can swim, until you actually get into the pool, hmmm?

Without the ability to believe swimming is possible, there is no possibility of swimming.

-SwanSword

It is an empirical truth, and maxim of evolution, that higher order life forms can only evolve from lower order life forms, and a higher order life forms never evolve into lower order life forms. Agreed?

I am not an expert on this, but your statements do not ring true. As I understand it from my reading there are lots of instances where 'advanced' evolutionary features are lost. I think one of the other posters made mention of a specific example above, but I believe there are many of these. Secondly, I believe the notion of higher order lifeforms is not popular among biologists. They might refer to a creature bieng more complex, but that is a different thing.

Since your opening statement seems to be wrong I'm afraid I didn't invest the time to read the rest of your post. (No disrespect, I just have a family to look after.

The opening statement is the gatekeeper keeping those without proper understanding from the remainder of the post. Acquisition of Truth requires diligence. See above for evolutionary orders.

-SwanSword

If people are de-evolving, why does my son have no wisdom teeth? I bet people are being born without an appendix as well.

Since dentistry, there have always been a good proportion of people that have no wisdom teeth. Lack of wisdom teeth is not a sign of evolution, except to people who guess at The Truth, and just say wisdom teeth are evolutionary relics. There is no proof for any part of the story of evolution. However, there is plenty of proof that natural selection occurs within a given species.

Also, surgical removal of organs that are actually necessary for immune health; and without which people are chronically ill for the rest of their lives, generating a steady stream of income for the same people who remove the organs, under the guise of legitimate medical care, because if a doctor says it has to come out, that absolutely must be the truth, because a doctor said it; in no way affects evolution.

-SwanSword

don't have time to read all that right now when there's so much else to read and so little time to do it. It looks interesting, so I'll read it in the morning, I promise. I hate to generalise about these things but maybe this is a valid extrapolation about us unbelievers: it's possible that we're just busier.

I used to work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. That is the hard way to make money. I started practicing Roman Catholicism, and studying it, and I never needed to work again. I have plenty of money, enough that I need to give a good proportion of it away to the poor. I own everything I have ever wanted. I'm like a little kid whose Father spoils him rotten. I'm retired, and I am sustained for life.

That's what happens when people place all their trust in God. It takes effort to get to know God, and time, but if someone gives God 1/2 hour per day, God will give that person five extra hours per day.

How much time and money could you save if:

You always picked the fastest checkout line
Always got a good parking space
Always got good service in every restaurant you ever dined in
Your children were always agreeable, and instantly obeyed you
The laundry always came clean the first time
You never experienced auto crashes, or traffic jams
You had the dream job of a lifetime, that gave you gobs of cash, and endless fulfillment; and you couldn't wait to get there each morning
Your spouse always obeyed you, or was obeyed by you, and made you feel like a king, or queen, serving you, hand and foot, for at least 15 minutes a day
You had a great marriage, and never argued, but sought only a deeper understanding of you spouse, as they probed your heart, fulfilling their role as finger of God
Your car never broke down
People were always willing to help you when you asked
People would loan you money without asking you to pay it back
Whenever you needed a piece of information, it dropped right in your lap
Whenever you couldn't find something you knew existed, you could ask Saint Anthony for help in locating it, and you would instantly find it
You were organized to the degree it takes to be truly efficient
You could always remember everything
You could find solutions to problems that mystify others
you always had a burning Love in your heart that allowed you to give and receive love and forgiveness, overlooking the carelessness and selfishness of those who need love and forgiveness
You spent no time pursuing vengeful emotions, and never experienced jealousy or anger
When people would meet you they would just want to be near you, and ask you all kinds of questions, and young women or men would try to mate with you because they wanted their children to be Children of God
You always got everything you needed, somehow, and you never needed to worry about it
You always got straight through on the telephone to exactly the person who could help you accomplish whatever you needed to
You always found the best airline, and always got a deal on the flight you needed
When your car got stolen, the thief felt so guilty he brought it back, and asked for help to stay away from crime, so you told him about confession, and he soon became a wealthy entrepreneur selling sunglasses at service stations, and called you on the phone saying, "You know, Red Army, I was going to commit suicide, but you led me to God, and saved my life. I would like to reward you. I was thinking of giving you $600,000.00, so you can buy that new house you and your spouse looked at, for cash."

This is what God will do for anyone who gives Him 1/2 hour per day to visit, receive His Love, let Him heal the wounds of injustice, mend your broken heart, speak to you, listen to you, and spoil you rotten, like a Child of The Lord God Almighty, with an inheritance to Rule The All, a gift from your Heavenly Father.

If a person can't imagine what is possible, it remains impossible. No one can ever have what they can't imagine. Desire like a king, so you may be satisfied like a king.

-SwanSword

Swansword:

It is an empirical truth, and maxim of evolution, that higher order life forms can only evolve from lower order life forms, and a higher order life forms never evolve into lower order life forms. Agreed?

No. There are no "higher" and "lower" forms of life - only different forms of life. By saying a human being is "higher" than a bacterium you are automatically imposing biased criteria on which to judge "higher" and "lower".

Let's do this mathematically. The chances the coin will land on heads, 100 times in a row, after it happens, are 1:1, because the chances of anything that already happened having happened are 100%. The chances of two things happening in succession are the multiple of the things happening individually. The chances of a coin toss being tails, is 1:2. 1:1*1:2 = 1:2. The chances the 101st toss of the coin being tails is 1:2, or 50%.

You can only multiply if events are independent. Is you've tossed a coin and it has already come up heads 100 times, chances are that it is not a fair coin. Hence, the result on the 101st flip will not be independent of the 100th flip.

This is what confuses people most about science. Past occurrences in no way indicate future performance. The past is in no way linked to the future, and the present is independent of the past and future.

If that was true, there could be no science.

The only unpredictable things known exist only on earth, or in earths atmosphere, and are within the reach of tampering by mankind. Every chance occurrence of anything is due to mankind.

Quantum mechanics provides an obvious counter-example to your thesis.

There is technology available that would allow Immortality, and unrestricted travel, beyond light speed, because matter is not involved, and to make the highest evolved life form on earth Absolute Judge of All, with Absolute Power over physical reality.

This technology is hidden because forces oppose humans making the next evolutionary step, Immortality. The way this technology is kept hidden is by bombarding Western Society with sensuality, and gratification of the flesh. This makes humans essentially blind, only having use of the organic brain, and five extremely limited sensory channels.

How do you know about this technology, if it is hidden? Do you have special access to knowledge, possessed by no other human being?

The disease currently infecting the human race. Symptoms-Abortion, sodomy, feminism, suicide, use of birth control, homicide, atheism, genocide, greed, consumption, secular humanism, terrorism, universal human ignorance, intimate relations outside the bounds of sacramental wedlock, godless perversions of the female act, divorce, failure of women to use their bodies in a way pleasing to God, psychopaths seeking innocence, to defile its beauty, out of sheer wickedness; man seeking evil for the good that may come of it, human beings manufactured by scientists, The Medical Industry creating disease to drive a market for itself, The Government Funded Secular Humisitic Suicide Induction Eugenics Engine, driven by the quest of The Masonic Temple to bring Osiris, the ancient Egyptian God, back from the dead; and Government run sorcery and occult practices.

You're a conspiracy theorist, are you? And religious?

Unless man comes before God, confessing his sin, and seeking forgiveness, through The Precious Blood of Jesus Christ, the human race will eliminate itself in an act of obedience to The Lord God Almighty...

Hmm... Religious. Yes.

Jesus Christ brought technology to earth that allows Immortality for the human race. This is fully documented by The Roman Catholic Church, which, incidentally, is where all science comes from.

Got any evidence of any of this?

Scientific method was born in The Roman Catholic Church, and 70% of the scientists over the last 2200 years were Roman Catholic Clergy, including Gregor Mendel, A Catholic Monk who discovered genetics; Nicolas Copernicus, a Roman Catholic Priest, who discovered the earth is not the center of the Universe...

Interesting you mention this, since the Church went to so much effort to suppress that idea, persecuting Galileo in particular.

Ruy Lopez, a Catholic Bishop and famous logician, who invented a system of chess play that made him world champion, and whose system is still unbeatable.

So Ruy never lost a game?

Thomas Aquinas, a famous Catholic Priest, devised the scientific method used by Descartes, Newton, Einstein, Kepler, Oppenheimer, Goddard, and every other scientist.

Nobody can lay claim to inventing the scientific method.

The fact that people think a coin toss is random is evidence that man lacks the ability, intellectually, and physically, to toss a coin predictably.

Coin tosses are random because of lack of detailed knowledge of the initial conditions of the toss. Otherwise, the toss of a coin is a deterministic physical process.

For every scientific fact there are equally plausible explanations confirming the fact, or denying the fact.

This is patently silly. Give me an "equally plausible" explanation to the theory of gravity, denying the fact that things fall down when you drop them from a height.

Secular humanism, where morality is relative to physical desire, is not an invention of modern society.

Is the 18th century "modern"?

Medicine is a good example. Practitioners of medical science view diseases as collections of specific symptoms, with little regard for the cause of the symptoms, unless these symptoms indicate a lethal condition, in which case the cause will be eliminated, but the typical treatment of illness by medical professionals involves masking unpleasant symptoms, thereby turning each patient into a cash cow, dependent on medical treatment to alleviate symptoms, and ignorant of the true cause of illness.

On the contrary, billions of dollars are spent identifying the causes of disease, and fighting those causes (viruses, bacteria, genetic illnesses etc.)

The reason doctors recommend a low fat diet to prevent heart disease is because low fat diets cause so many other diseases, the doctors are better off tricking people into believing low fat diets are the key to health, when, in fact, the problem is processed fats.

The scientific evidence on nutrition and healthy eating is extensive. If you don't believe it, try living on McDonald's food alone, as in the film "Super Size Me".

The reason people recover in the hospital is not because of the thousands of dollars in medical treatment, but because hospitals don't use trans fats in food preparation for patients, unless the patient has good insurance, in which case trans fats will be fed to the patient, but discontinued so the illness will abate the day the patient's insurance runs out.

So, let me get this right. You're saying all disease is due to trans fats, are you?

Candida yeast overgrowth is responsible for more chronic illness than any other thing.

Got any evidence for that, or just more conspiracy theories?

Now that we have that out of the way, The human soul is the highest evolutionary form on earth.

Your Catholic church will be interested in your theory that souls evolve. Have you told them?

The jezebel spirit induces girls and women to rebel against the God ordained authority of their fathers and husbands over them.

Or father-and-husband ordained, more likely. Especially for the devoutly religious types.

If this couple is divided by an occult ceremony; where a leprechaun poses as a judge, and court magicians, dressed in suits and ties, look with reverence and awe, in the sequel to 'The Emperor's New Cloths', called 'Divorce Hearing'; performing motions sacred to the freemasonic institution, and uttering ancient Latin to the freemasonic god; as the disguised leprechaun engages in an unholy rape of the wife, using the phallic instrument he glances across the last page of the judgment, inducing the husband to believe his wife can now legally usurp the God ordained authority he has over her, according to The Physical Laws of Nature, specifically, The Physical Law of Marriage; and refuse him access to her body, for his pleasure, and to reproduce himself; one spouse needs to die so Nature will not be made a liar for having whispered soft engravings on the hearts of two young lovers, 'Until death you shall not part'.

This is sounding nuttier and nuttier. You're getting caught up in your own preaching.

Criminal behavior has now been engineered out of the manufactured humans. This has reduced intelligence by 40 IQ points.

Got any evidence of ... Oh, never mind. You're probably a lost cause.

I can't come right out and admit I'm Immortal, because that would be putting Immortality to the test. Anytime an Immortal tests his Immortality, he dies.

You think you're immortal?

Ancient Egyptian records are more complex, and older than The Bible. These records indicate hominids, using Light physics, built huge underground cities, and used their superior understanding to induce harmonics into stones and earth that would cause emission of beautiful Light from the minerals.

Is there any pseudoscientific rubbish you don't believe?

-Back to Light physics

This Light was used for agriculture, navigation, power generation, and Immortality. The tomb of Osiris, the god, has been found in one of these underground cities.

Which one? Where?

Underground cities exist everywhere on earth, up to 27 km under ground, and can comfortably accommodate tens of thousands of inhabitants, with their property, livestock, and everyone's own bathroom and bedroom.

27km, eh? Tell me, are these cities well air-conditioned? And how do they fight the pressure to stop them collapsing?

This is no big secret.

It's news to me. I guess the conspiracy community just doesn't get enough publicity.

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I think I've read enough.

I hope you don't actually believe anything you write. If you do, you probably ought to seek some professional help. Or at least try to get a proper education. You sound coherent enough. It's just the ideas that are screwy.

Let's weigh up the benefits and disadvantages.


On the one hand:
That's what happens when people place all their trust in God. It takes effort to get to know God, and time, but if someone gives God 1/2 hour per day, God will give that person five extra hours per day.

How much time and money could you save if:
You always picked the fastest checkout line
Always got a good parking space
Always got good service in every restaurant you ever dined in....... etc etc

Yes sounds good to me. These are not things which particularly concern me, but they are worth having.

But on the one hand:

People persecute me, subtly cut me down, fly into blind fits of homicidal rage (I've had six attempts on my life within six months, six days, and six hours of each other.),

You've convinced me. I don't mind waiting in checkout lines.

You've given us some advice, and now I will give you some advice.
Go to your Parish priest and tell him the ideas you are having.
In fact take him copies of your posts.
Then take his advice on what you should do.

When your car got stolen, the thief felt so guilty he brought it back, and asked for help to stay away from crime, so you told him about confession, and he soon became a wealthy entrepreneur selling sunglasses at service stations, and called you on the phone saying, "You know, Red Army, I was going to commit suicide, but you led me to God, and saved my life. I would like to reward you. I was thinking of giving you $600,000.00, so you can buy that new house you and your spouse looked at, for cash."
May I ask a stupid question?

If this person has $600,000... why is he suicidal and, more confusingly still... why did he steal your car? :confused::rolleyes:

Oh wait. I've just re-read it. Wealthy entrepreneur, hey. Hmm.. {sniff, sniff..}

Your spouse always obeyed you, or was obeyed by you, and made you feel like a king, or queen, serving you, hand and foot, for at least 15 minutes a day
I would divorce her and seek a less meekly submissive spouse. This spouse does not sound, to me, like a tiger in bed. :(

I can tell you from personal experience that a large male organ hurts Caucasian women. If a guy wants to date Caucasian women, and he has more than the average guy, she's going to complain.
They should date Asians. Asians, as a group, are genitally miniscule.

Posted by SwanSword
It is an empirical truth, and maxim of evolution, that higher order life forms can only evolve from lower order life forms, and a higher order life forms never evolve into lower order life forms. Agreed?

Posted by Hipparchia
I am not an expert on this, but your statements do not ring true. As I understand it from my reading there are lots of instances where 'advanced' evolutionary features are lost. I think one of the other posters made mention of a specific example above, but I believe there are many of these. Secondly, I believe the notion of higher order lifeforms is not popular among biologists. They might refer to a creature bieng more complex, but that is a different thing.
Since your opening statement seems to be wrong I'm afraid I didn't invest the time to read the rest of your post. (No disrespect, I just have a family to look after.

Posted by SwanSword
The opening statement is the gatekeeper keeping those without proper understanding from the remainder of the post. Acquisition of Truth requires diligence. See above for evolutionary orders.

Thank you SwanSword for making me laugh and brightening my day. I think I know enough psychology and certainly enough about human nature to recognise a lame excuse. Your statements are not in error, it is simply that I cannot understand them because I am not worthy. :bawl:Very good, very whimsical. :rolleyes:
I'd also like to thank you for saving me the trouble of reading anything else you write.:) Enjoy.

It is an empirical truth, and maxim of evolution, that higher order life forms can only evolve from lower order life forms, and a higher order life forms never evolve into lower order life forms. Agreed?

Not agreed. To begin with the idea that one life form is higher is unfounded. A life form evolves to fit its niche. If conditions remain stable then something like a shark ( that has not much changed for 60 million years) is perfectly fine. The shark fits. If conditions changed the the shark would evolve. Variations in DNA might give the shark (as a species) an advantage. Natural selection determines that advantage is more offspring. But there is certainly no "direction", and there is no reason why an earlier, more primitive gene pool might not be to the species advantage.

why is this in pseudoscience? the man says he is a scientist.

If I'm posting early forgive me but I have not read the entire thread yet. He is 26 years old, seems young for an advanced degree, no?

I am sure Ibn Batuta, Al-Idrisi, Hero of Alexandria, Maimonides, Hippocrates, et al would be suprised to learn that all science came from the Roman Catholic Church.

so would Galeleo

The common man discredits the source of Truth with insult and innuendo. The truly wise topple armies with the pen.

-SwanSword

And the certifiable think they are truely wise. Many of these posters can get you to the station for the clue train, will you be ready to get on board?