I've never have seen it or heard the song but I heard it has something to do with the troops fighting in Iraq. Has anyone heard it and if so, what do you think about it?

It's been Banned on MTV becasue it's too 'anti war'. lol f*cking US government idiots. Excuse my anger against the hypocritical fascists.

Did MTV ban it or the government?
Private enterprises are allowed to do whatever they want. More likely than not, if MTV banned it it's because they feel (probably, incorrectly) that it will hurt their earnings and turn off some viewers. And, more importantly, discourage advertisers from paying for space. Like I said, private enterprise are free to make their own choices. If you don't like it - get out of a capitalist nation.

Madonna has had a change of heart and won't release her controversial, anti-war music video, "American Life," after all.

In a statement posted on her Web site Monday, the singer said the video for her new single was filmed before the war with Iraq started and was not appropriate to air as scheduled this Friday out of respect for American troops who are now fighting and dying in Iraq.

"Due to the volatile state of the world and out of sensitivity and respect to the armed forces, who I support and pray for, I do not want to risk offending anyone who might misinterpret the meaning of this video," Madonna said.

The video for the title track of Madonna's new album shows the diva wearing military garb next to dancers in camouflage on a fashion runway and a grenade being thrown in the direction of a President Bush lookalike intercut with images of war.

Source: UPI: Show Biz News (http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030401-093304-1147r)

but i am starting to think being antiwar is good but in this case it might be silly because I think that this war to some degree is necessary.

madonna is a stupid, dithering, spineless, decision changing idiot.

she first embraced hinduism, then buddhism, then a few other weird religions....and apparently she's going to release a rap album or something.....

the views of 1min. decision changing phreks like her should not be worth considering.

Fuck Madonna.

According to the all-mighty George Strombouloupoulos (sp?), its really not anti-war, its probably just some meaningless crap that Madonna is using to get publicity cause she won't admit her career is over.

*fixed typo

f' madonna.
shes a bitch.

uh duh..i know war is coming...uh duh..ill make an anti war video..uh duh...i'll put it out after we go to war...uh duh..its inappropriate now..uh duh...i won't put it out.

can you say asshole.

you are right nightpoet it is a publicity stunt...shes a shallow bitch that only cares about her own ambitions...she goes around and around in circles...her whole career...oh look at me doing this...oh look at me doing that...shes a tired old fag hag...the anti-war movement could have really used her voice not to stop the war persay because I think it might be neccessary, but I believe that the anti-war people do do good and have a influence in this whole affair, in terms of enlightening the world and showing people that their is a dissenting culture that doesn't neccesarily believe in this madness wholeheartedly.

Private enterprises are allowed to do whatever they want. More likely than not, if MTV banned it it's because they feel (probably, incorrectly) that it will hurt their earnings and turn off some viewers.

Ummm, I don't care who does it, the private sector, the government, the aliens from planet Zrygrrll who control the thoughts in my head, SOMEBODY should be censoring Madonna videos. Out of existence.

Glad we agree on something Xev. She's too old now. Let's support the younger sex symbols!

Only teasing :D , madonna isn't too old, just not talented enough. She jumps on fads like she's an ugly hitchhicker.

I like Madonna, my fav female solo singer
haven't heard/seen that song you all are bitching about, though
and she is a talented dancer and singer
girls usually don't like her though

That is strange, why don't girls like her? Is she seen as a threat being an independent and strong woman perhaps?
They prefer to like the more vulnerable popstars because they can identify with them more...
Well, I like her style, but not her music so much. Maybe some of the older songs.

she first embraced hinduism, then buddhism, then a few other weird religions.... -airavata

This statement shows your complete ignorance. How is Hinduism, buddhism "weird"?

Fuck Madonna. -god is irrelevant

Great post.

And on and on...
She, out of concern for the spiritual being of her fellow Americans, decided to pull the video and yet you complain with ignorantly mindless comments. She's an entertainer for crying out loud, she makes music and music videos and in these videos she expresses her opinions. I'm don't want to sound like I defend her every move, but she is an accomplished artist no matter what anyone says. How many people do you know of that have lasted years and continues to release fresh new music? Certainly not those talentless pop tarts that will be gone within a matter of months.

That is strange, why don't girls like her? Is she seen as a threat being an independent and strong woman perhaps?

Flashing your tits in order to get ahead does not make one "independant and strong".

Madonna can't sing, her songs are beyond bubblegum in terms of lyrical content, she made a fair bit of money for glamourizing a murdering fascist, and she's only gotten as far as she has because she has a sweet ass.

They prefer to like the more vulnerable popstars because they can identify with them more...

No, I don't particularly like Christina Agulaira or Ozzy Osborne's daughter either, and they're definitely not vulnerable.

Although I did like some of Agulaira's songs off of "Dirty". Very well done for the genre.

She, out of concern for the spiritual being of her fellow Americans, decided to pull the video and yet you complain with ignorantly mindless comments.

Her music sucks rubber turkey dildo and she's jumping on a "no war" bandwagon.

How many people do you know of that have lasted years and continues to release fresh new music?

Trent Rezner, Tommoso Talamaca, Dani Filth, Rodney Orpheus (hell, some of his music is older than I am), Charlie Benant ("Fistful of Metal" was released on my birth year), Alice Cooper...

Certainly not those talentless pop tarts that will be gone within a matter of months.

So? Being better than the worst does not make you good.

she has a sweet ass.

sounds good to me :p

Christina Aguilara is a hot little bitch (http://www.newsfilter.org/sex/xtina1.htm), that don't mean that "What a Girl wants" is anything but bubblegum pop.

Brian Warner isn't exactly a babe out of costume, but "The Reflecting God" is still sheer brilliance.

Originally posted by Xev
...rubber turkey dildo ...
:eek: I don't want to picture it

Trent Rezner, Tommoso Talamaca, Dani Filth, Rodney Orpheus (hell, some of his music is older than I am), Charlie Benant ("Fistful of Metal" was released on my birth year), Alice Cooper...
I've personally never heard of them but I see your point that there are other established musicians out there. But to become established you have to survive. With all the new emerging artists that come out every second it's easy to get lost in the crowd, unless you and your music stands out. And that was the point that I was trying to get at. As far as if shes a good artist is strictly personal opinion.

So? Being better than the worst does not make you good.
This is true. But once again I'd say it's a matter of opinion.

I don't want to picture it

Not a dildo made out of rubber turkeys, but a rubber dildo made to resemble a turkey penis, mind you.

I've personally never heard of them

Nine Inch Nails, Sadist, Cradle of Filth, Cassandra Complex, Anthrax and Alice Cooper, respectively.

but I see your point that there are other established musicians out there. But to become established you have to survive. With all the new emerging artists that come out every second it's easy to get lost in the crowd, unless you and your music stands out.

I agree with you here. But I think that an objective reading of her reading and vocals shows that she's not much better than the rest. Madonna's lyrics resemble every other female fuck-object/pop star's, something that you can't say for any of the bands I mentioned.

(Alice Cooper's style resembles so many other heavy-metal bands because, well, Alice Cooper pioneered that style)

the newest Cradle of Filth cd is nothing but cheap sugar
they should have stopped after Midian

Better To Reign In Hell

Heart in hand passed to the clasp of pain
In a dark lowland that set bad blood in veins
Burning, like penal fires roused to stain
The jagged-toothed skyline braced with crosses

The golden dawn
Lay lost to mist where
Emboldened thorns
Made their bed with toppled stones

He closed His eyes
Sunken to dream there
Of crow-black skies
And a great white empty throne
Horror stalked the bilious fogs
That balked His vision

He licked the spittle from the cheeks of the wry
And drifted back to when His stung it's target
The sneer of Michael on a glorious high
Of angel dust and Virtue by his side

Drowning in the past
That downfall seemed like yesterday
Though blurred moons passed
As enemies in high places laughed

Moved to mirrors cracked with heavy lines
He rose snowblind, though shifting sands of time
Erased the trace and taste of bitter wines
The grapes of wrath grew fat on the vine

She came to Him
A little whip of tantrums
Thrashed on velvet skins
That lined Her wishbone Henge

Her name was Sin
A warming spurt of mantras
Splashed on occult tongues
That whispered sweet revenge

For the shame of their crawl from grace
Cold and hollow as the grave

And for the rape and ruinous scourge
Spared for souls that had shared
God's worship
For now their throats coated notes with dirge
That poured from parapets to the pits below

Drowning in the past
A wretched scream like yesterday
Died at last
With the rising of the revenant dark

"I shall bow no more to the dogs of the Lord
Tearing at my carcass heart
I shall fall to my knees only at the keyholes
Of Virtue slipping into bondage masks...
Freewill made me better to reign in Hell"

And with new wings
Unfurled and spoken
He took to things
That would desecrate the wold

The seduction of both woman and man
For a bastard masterplan

Drowning out the past
Fool Fates unwound cruel yesterdays
Beneath the stars
That staggered from the blast

Cheap sugar?! I'll admit that Damnation isn't exactly Bitter Suites, but to call it cheap sugar is.....

compared to Dark Funeral* or Dimmu Borgir* or Children of Bodom* it is (the latest album)

black metal band

I think Madonna has gotten this far because she has insisted on having full control of what she does and I respect that. If she wants to flash her tits then she has every right to.
When she does it, it has a more honesty about it than when Christina Aguilera does it, that poor girl is a victim of the greedy recordcompanies, totally. And it only makes me feel sorry for her.
But, Christina can definitely sing and Madonna just can't. :D