I was in a Revelation Seminar a year ago and one night,the topic happened to be the number 666--the mark of the beast..the bible said that to those who have knowledge,let him count the number,for it is the number of a man or the "Antichrist"...well,they said that the Pope is the Antichrist:eek: because something on his wardrobe or crown or something has the words written VICARIUS FILII DEI,which means VICAR OF THE SON OF GOD,which is TOTALLY a blasphemy or something like that..and if you agree, count the results of the letters based on Roman Numerals

V = 5
I = 1
C = 100
A = 0
R = 0
I =1
U =5
S = 0
equals: 112

F = 0
I = 1
L = 50
I = 1
I = 1
equals: 53

D = 500
E = 0
I = 1
equals: 501

TOTAL : 666

SHOCKING,INTERESTING,OR WHAT???:confused:

so,what's ur opinion?i won't jump into any conclusions,but it's pretty interesting:rolleyes:

How about "Michelle?"

Number the letters so A=1, B=2 etc. We get:

Michelle = 13 + 9 + 3 + 8 + 5 + 12 + 12 + 5 = 67

Now take the digits of the result and add them:

6 + 7 = 13

13 is an unlucky number, so Michelle is the number of the unlucky person!

Interesting huh?

Or not.

Numerology is a joke. You can make up anything.

Why choose the words VICARIUS FILII DEI rather than, say "Pope Benedict", or something else? Why choose values based on Roman numerals, rather than the English or Roman alphabet?

It's all just a game. You play around until you get the number you want. Want to get 666? There's plenty of ways of doing that. Give me a little time, and I'm sure I can turn "Michelle" into 666.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/666_%28number%29

and anyway, some think that the nr of beast is 616 or 665
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

How about "Michelle?"

Number the letters so A=1, B=2 etc. We get:

Michelle = 13 + 9 + 3 + 8 + 5 + 12 + 12 + 5 = 67

Now take the digits of the result and add them:

6 + 7 = 13

13 is an unlucky number, so Michelle is the number of the unlucky person!

Interesting huh?

Or not.

Numerology is a joke. You can make up anything.

Why choose the words VICARIUS FILII DEI rather than, say "Pope Benedict", or something else? Why choose values based on Roman numerals, rather than the English or Roman alphabet?

It's all just a game. You play around until you get the number you want. Want to get 666? There's plenty of ways of doing that. Give me a little time, and I'm sure I can turn "Michelle" into 666. well,this isn't my opinion,smarty pants..im just saying what they taught in the seminar,but it doesn't mean we have to believe it..my friend just brought me there coz i was alone and bored in the house... get the picture? GO SMOKE A JOINT :m:

It's good to hear that you realise you don't need to believe this rubbish, Michelle.

:)

Thank U

And now for the second part of the numerology course: Using it to back up conspiracy theories.

666 = 2*9*37
37 - the largest prime factor of the beast! :eek:

My philosophy teacher was talking about the Mark of The Beast a couple months back. And apparently (I've not looked into it myself so can't validate his claims) all barcodes share the same basic code. And in this code is 666.

So apparently all barcodes carry the mark of the beast.
I also got approached by a load of people in the highstreet trying to convince me that technology was evil and that "God will save us".

But James R's right. It's a total joke. Look for a "sign" long enough and you will find it

666 = 2*9*37
37 - the largest prime factor of the beast! :eek:Ah, yes 2 people in 9 months can produce a new body at 37 degrees C. - the work of the devil - it is all so clear now.:(
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More evidence of devil's work in dance, etc. from: www.brainyhistory.com/daysbirth/birth_february_9.html
Feb. 9, 1937 {2/9/37 birthday of} Johnny Sayles, U.S. vocalist, {biggest hit} You Made Me Wiggle
That is the ONLY listing for that date. - how can you doubters say it is only a joke?????

Want further proof? Say "Johnny Sayles" three times quick. (What are Johns used for?) - Oh _ _ _ _ ! Mankind is doomed by the beast !

:rolleyes:

Ah, yes 2 people in 9 months can produce a new body at 37 degrees C. - the work of the devil - it is all so clear now.:(
Indeed. To quote Blackadder (http://ics.leeds.ac.uk/papers/vp01.cfm?outfit=pmt&requesttimeout=500&folder=1192&paper=1197):

Edmund: Well, quite -- which reminds me, Aunty--

Aunt: (stands up) Don't call me `Aunty'!!! (slaps him twice)
`Aunt' is a relative, and relatives are evidence of sex,
and sex is hardly a fitting subject for the dinner table. (sits)

Edmund: ...or, indeed, any table.

Percy: ...except, perhaps, a table in a brothel.

add up all roulette numbers :)

Pi is infinite.

Like God is infinite...

Whoa, spooooooooky.

You mean God is countably infinite?

If you have enough fingers.

wooo..this joint i'm smoking right now is the bomb :)

You have 13 posts as of this writing... Wooooo!!!

You mean God is countably infinite?

Let us assume that a god has some number of properties. Let this number of properties be either finite or infinite. If a god is really a god he must have infinite properties (or else, is he really a god??). We shall label these across the X axis of a table. Now let us assume that there are countably infinite number of gods, and you have listed them down the Y axis of a table. Now I shall define P_i_j to be the jth property of the ith god in your list of countably infinite gods. NOW... I tell you there is a god with the following properties:

G = (P_1_1 + 1)(P_2_2 + 1)(P_3_3 + 1) ... (P_k_k + 1) ...

Now as I have defined him, this god cannot POSSIBLY be in your list of gods. Therefore, gods must be UNCOUNTABLY infinite :)

-AntonK

668: The Neighbor of the Beast

Diagonal god proof. Now I have seen everything :p

25.806975801127880315188420605149 ... the Squareroot of the Beast.

666+666+666=1998

pi is not "countably infinite".....numbers are either transcendental or algebraic, and thats it, and pi is transcendental (i.e. if not pi would be the root of a polynomial with rational coefficients). The digits of every number occur in countably infinite numbers, though...isnt that what you mean?!:m:

999

The upside down beast.

999 The upside down beast.696969
Two intertwined beasts

i thought 666 was referring to Nero

In part I think it was, but there was a much deeper esoteric meaning to it. Those who created Christianity and wrote "the gospels" were heavily into astrology and gematria(a kind of numberology). I'll try to briefly summerize the mathematics of what is a lot deeper than I'll go into.
666 was a number astrologer mathematicians associated with the sun in the sky considered a male deity. The numberologists would take a number and then express it in base ten as we do and then add the digits down to a value from 1 to 9. This adds down to 9. 9 is a trinity of trinities representing utter completeness. Without any balancing femanine association one who is associated with this number would be thought to be an out of control fire. Fire like the sun, only utterly destructive. Our sun has a femanine balancer, mother earth, but a man represented by this number without the balance would be a beast. Also, the anchients continuing to the muslims today believed that there were 7 heavens. 888 would be the number for one who is above heaven and so Jesus spelling in greek leading to the strange english version of the name we use was chosen so that the number values of the greek letters added up to 888. 666 then was in the book Revalation taken to represent one who falls short of heavenly, utterly and completely so as it adds down to 9. Mother earth in greek as well as holy ghost adds up to the utterly female number 1080 which also adds down to 9. This makes since because in more anchient forerunners of the religion the deity corresponding to the holy ghost in the trinity was a female. The fusion of male and female yields 1746 which corresponds to the greek grain of mustard seed. When it was said let those with ears to hear hear it was a reference to these encoded meanings. 1746 again adds down to 9. The greek ceaser Nero, QSR NRWN adds to 666. An early manuscript in greek has the number 616 which is possibly because it was a copy from a latin text where the last N is dropped which had the value of 50. 616 looses the mathematical properties as mentioned in the wiki reference so it wouldn't have held the same sacred meanings as the solor 666 did. Also the colosus was thought to be a Nero statue depicting him as the sun god (Methras version) and so it would make sense for them to associate the sun number with him for that reason as well. There is some debate and though I think Nero is prime suspect others of the time have been implicated. Another possibility is that they were inspired by him to predict another like him and I say this because the name of possibly the beast that it gives is in greek Apolyon which is in english either Apollo, Paul, or Don. It would take a combination with another name or letters to get 666 out of it though.

...The numberologists would take a number and then express it in base ten as we do and then add the digits down to a value from 1 to 9. ...Base 10 is a very poor choice. Too bad humans do not have either 4 or 6 fingers on each hand. (I some times cite this "bad design" when in discussion with "intelligent designers" but rarely as they tend not to understand complex ideas.)

Base 12 would be much better as many more numbers would be easily divided, in your head. (Same reason year of 12 months and day of 24 hours or the ancient year of 360 days are easy to divide into equal parts.)

I am too lazy, but what would the beast etc be in base 12? (10 = * and 11 = ** )

I.e. 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, *, **

I assume the new rule would be divide down to ** instead of 9. Keep the number of heavens etc unchanged (I think they are related to the 5 visible planets plus sun and moon, to get seven days in the week, seven heavens etc.)

Anyone less lazy than me, want to find he beast for six fingered humans, like any truly "intelligent designer" would have made?

Base 10 is a very poor choice. Too bad humans do not have either 4 or 6 fingers on each hand. (I some times cite this "bad design" when in discussion with "intelligent designers" but rarely as they tend not to understand complex ideas.)

Base 12 would be much better as many more numbers would be easily divided, in your head. (Same reason year of 12 months and day of 24 hours or the ancient year of 360 days are easy to divide into equal parts.)

I am too lazy, but what would the beast etc be in base 12? (10 = * and 11 = ** )

I.e. 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, *, **

I assume the new rule would be divide down to ** instead of 9. Keep the number of heavens etc unchanged (I think they are related to the 5 visible planets plus sun and moon, to get seven days in the week, seven heavens etc.)

Anyone less lazy than me, want to find he beast for six fingered humans, like any truly "intelligent designer" would have made?I don't care whether it is bad. I am telling you that this is what they did.

You wanna go out Michelle?

I don't care whether it {base ten sustem} is bad. I am telling you that this is what they did.I did not intend you should be blamed for base ten! - You are much too clever, intellignet, etc. to have designed humans with five fingers.

Thanks for telling what lead to 666 as "mark of beast." I was just hoping someone would take up the challenge of finding the mark of the beast if humans used the method you explained, but had 6 fingers on each hand (used a base 12 number system etc.)

You wanna go out Michelle? sure,sderenzi :D ..ur high,arent u :rolleyes: