We (the terran humans) only use 20% of our brains, what the f*ck is wrong with the rest 80%. In my oppinion we are sheep of our own human-civilization, with our devices that keep us dumb.
What happened to the technology for example how the pyramids
where build? like the tools for shaping the tombstones out of pure granite in those early days?

Yeah, a friend and I were discussing where the technology for constructing the exactitude of the pyramids has gone off to. I saw a program where they claimed that new mathematics are learned with the steady progression of the crop circles (incidentally, that's how I initially found this site--by searching about crop circles, go figure).

The jpg was interesting, but where is it from? A parchment of some sort?

Hi all!

At the 'What does God have anything to say about genes" at the Christian forum I presented a theory about why we lost this technology and used the pyrimids as an example. daktaklakpak told me that he had seen a documentary about how the pyramids were built with just sticks and bones. Perhaps you could private message him. I personally would really like to see a response from him/her on this subject which he seemed so knowledgable on.

Thanks

the pyramids must have been difficult to build, but far from impossible. there are much more disturbing monuments around the world. I don't remember the name( B... something), but there is a monument, built about 2000 bc. , situated in mountainous area, and constructed with blocks of rock of 400 tons... and the rocks where from a place 30 miles away. even today, we wouldn't be able to build such a monument. where did it come from?:confused:

sounds like Stonehenge. assembled 4000 years ago. they moved 25-ton rocks over 20 miles to build it.

Originally posted by 0xygen
We (the terran humans) only use 20% of our brains, what the f*ck is wrong with the rest 80%.

That may not be true. Somewhere I read that we use only 10% to 20% has been misquoted over and over. Just as your physical strengh is not used to its full capacity to lift a glass of water does not mean the rest is lost forever. Perhaps, there is enough brain capacity to do whatever you need to do.

There may be some reserve when you need it...and perhaps you can improve the capacity by doing brain exercises...??

good point

I think that the original quote was "10% of our minds' POTENTIAL." And that means that it had to have been someone's opinion -- even if it was an educated one. Because how can you know the true limit of a person's potential well enough to say that they are only using this or that percentage of it?

On a physical note, if you actually removed 80% (or even 40%) of your brain, wouldn't you be a vegetable (or dead?)

" even today, we wouldn't be able to build such a monument. "

I'm sorry but we have built much harder things than that today. We ship items in the millions of tons, not the thousands and build buildings over 100 stories tall.
We can build it today but the thing is they built it back then. It must have been really hard to construct with limited technology but still not impossible. It is amazing what one can do with determination.

" That may not be true. Somewhere I read that we use only 10% to 20% has been misquoted over and over. Just as your physical strengh is not used to its full capacity to lift a glass of water does not mean the rest is lost forever. Perhaps, there is enough brain capacity to do whatever you need to do. "

I believe there is something missing here. As far as I know we use anywhere from 8-10% of our brain for thinking. That does not mean that we use only 10% in total. The rest of the brain is entirely devoted to other specific tasks. Much is use for memory and sight. All of the 5 senses must be interpreted in a real time situation. This requires a LOT of brain power. Just because we use so little to think does not mean we are not utilizing 100% of our brain.

" What happened to the technology for example how the pyramids
where build?"

We know a little about there construction and defiantly know that it was not impossible to build with Egypt's limited resources and technology. Just because it looks big does not make it impossible.

There are many ways they could have done it. A ramp extending in a spiral around the pyramid and logs used for rolling them up that ramp is a possibility. They could also have used a lever system where you hoist one side of the rock up and support it. Then you do the same with the other side. You could do this on reputedly until you got high enough to place the block. Many other methods could be used and more than likely it was a combination of these.
It is not hart to lift a 10 ton rock it you have 10 thousand people to do it. And it is not like they were put on a short time constraint. It only took 20 – 30 years to construct one.

Has anyone ever read the book "Children of the Matrix" by David Icke. WOW!! There's some eye opening stuff in there.

After reading his book, it's makes me kind of leary about being in this forum. But, I think my eyes are only kind of open and I'm not much of a threat.

I sound like a weirdo right now, don't I? Read the book and you'll see!

I have to go but I'll create a post later about the topic.

Welcome to Sciforums, Whammy. I don't think I have welcomed you yet. Unusal net name. I seem to remember that Egar Cyce(?) predicted that part of Atlantis would be found in the Gulf of Mexico area. I am sure that every one has seen the stone road, near Bimini, under the ocean. So what do you think, is it part of Atlantis? Are the technologies waiting for us to find after all this time? Or did Alantis even exist? Maybe it was just a fable that was passed on and believed as much as the flat earth was believed at the time. Your thoughts?

Atlantis did exist. One way or another I am very sure Atlantis existed.....
Can't tell exactly why, it's a feeling deep within and I've had it for over my whol life.
I don't think that's just a coincidence. As a little child, no one thinks of Atlantis, I did....
I asked my parents, they said I had a too big imagination. It could have been when I had been a little older. Then, I was 6 years old, I do remember this like it happened yesterday.
It was the very last time I spoke to my parents about my 'strange' feelings and a knowing deep inside.

I know a lot more now, believe me....
Atlantis has been an island, long ago, in the Ancient Times.
It dissappeared in the great flood that came from a meteor crash, millions of years ago.
Some people do know and remember, they are probably descendants, how hard it is to believe.
There is an investigation now, and hypnotists, psychiatrists and other odd people want to test people who have memories about a hidden and maybe lost Civilization.
So, most of this people suddenly forget all they ever thought to remember and no scientist will touch one of them, ever!!
:confused:

F**K 'em!!

Now you don't have information about where it must have been.

Somewhere in the ocean my friend, The Black See is an option too isn't it?? On discovery I saw they were looking there for Atlantis.
Why does everybody wants to know about Atlantis. What do they think they find then??
An old drawned city under the see.

It is not a right, that you can take and look for whatever you want.
Maybe Atlantis is a place you'd better leave to the imagination.
Not everything has to be discovered and ruined by human hands....
So let's keep Atlantis safe.......
Enough destruction, even in space people leave their mess.
From all those nice satellites and rockets which they send up in space, but didn't bother to take back to Earth on their way back.
No, because they can't, they didn't even think about all the mess left behind in space...

So Atlantis is safe......as long as it takes.

Honestly I don't think we will find Atlantis within my lifetime. It may never have actually existed. If it did theni t is buried where finding will not be easy. Otherwise we would already have found traces of it. But that does not quell the curiosity, rather it fuels it.

A passage from the book, "Children of the Matrix" by David Icke. Remember this is NON-FICTION!! This is documented, researched stuff.

"Atlantis was described by Plato (427-347BC), the ancient Greek Philosopher. To this day this secret network has passed on advanced knowledge to the chosen few while denying that priviledge to the mass of the people. Offical history dismisses Plato's contention that such a continent existed, but there is vast geological support for such claims. The Azores, which some believe were part of Atlantis, lie on the mid-Atlantic ridge, a fracture line that encircles the planet. This line continues for a distance of 40,000 miles. The mid-Atlantic ridge is one of the foremost areas for earthquakes and volcanoes. Four vast tectonic plates, the Eurasian, African, North America, and Caribbean, all meet and collide in this region making it very unstable geologically. Both the Azores and the Canary Islands (named after dogs, "Canine", and not canaries!) were subject to widespread volcanic activity in the time period Plato suggested for the end of Atlantis. Tachylite lava disintegrates in seawater within 15,000 years and yet it is still found on the the seabed around the Azores, confirming geologically recent upheavals. Other evidence, including beach sand gathered from depths of 10,500-18,440 feet, reveals that the seabed in this region must have been, again geologically recently, above sea level. The oceanographer, Maurice Ewing, wrote in National Geographic Magazine, that: Either the land must have sunk two or three miles or the sea must once have been two or three miles lower than now. Either conclusion is startling."
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That's just a little something-something from the book. There is so much more history and research in the book about Atlantis. But, that's not what the book is about,

There is something much bigger that Atlantis ties into. I want to talk about it but, nobody has read the book and I can't really say much without giving a lot of detail. I'm actually intimidated really! :eek:
I know that sounds crazy but, all of you have to find that book.

The only hint I feel comfortable giving is,....."Laura Croft."

I should be able to check out any response to the post tomorrow but after that, not until Tuesday because I'm going out of town.

Whammy,
I assure you that you have my interest. Just because we have not read the book does not mean that we may not have a discussion of the subject. It will inform all who read and have simular interest. This geologic evidence is new to me. There are several other areas which bear looking at. I believe that Plato made mention of it being near England. (It's been a long time so I may be wrong here as I also remember there being mention of beyond the pillars of Hercules)

Further there is evidence that has come to light of yet another possible civilization buried beneath the sea near Cuba. This one recently found. As yet there has been no proper investigation of the area. However National Geographic has agreed in principal to film and document the investigation when it starts.

Originally posted by 0xygen
We (the terran humans) only use 20% of our brains, what the f*ck is wrong with the rest 80%. In my oppinion we are sheep of our own human-civilization, with our devices that keep us dumb.
What happened to the technology for example how the pyramids
where build? like the tools for shaping the tombstones out of pure granite in those early days?


<i>Now now, Mr. Ocky-gen, we can't have harsh languge here!</i>

The 80/20 figure that is continually referred to is from an archaic set of tests that goes back to the beginning of the 20th century. It is <u>incorrect</u>. It comes from a time in which hardly any brain functions were understood. Even today, much of the brain is misunderstood. It would be well to remember that mother nature (evolution) is very stingy about giving out gifts to living organisms that are not absolutely necessary for the lifeform's survival. In fact I can state, with great confidence, that most all people do use the majority of their brains.

Examples & proof of this don't presently come to mind, therefore I can only suggest that you should look for newer data. The fact is that people generally do use 100% of their minds. The inefficiency lies in how well they organize and prioritize their thought processes. Most conscious thought processes are governed, and often limited, by the organisms' primal emotional desires for food and procreation.

The mind will atrophy from lack of use, much in the same way that muscles do, if unused. The general population of human beings tend to expend much of their gray matter on pursuits of emotional satisfaction, ect.....

<b><i>To say that there is this magical 80% of untapped grey matter is to state that humanity was a race of ....gods, during previous thousands of millenia ago!</b> For this would be the only way to account for such proposed brainpower aquired</i>.

Sorry Howardstern, now you are incorrect.
People don't use 100% of their brains, they do not so......
For example: Everybody can learn to communicate telepathical, are you a telepath?? Don't think so......
Ever had an out of your body experience???? Don't think so....
You want more examples. let me know, you can get them.
:p
Let me know telepathical, I am waiting for your message.
Understand that the human mind can reach very far.
No ocean or land shall disturb the telepathical message you send.....

And then Atlantis. There is a lot more to the 'story' of Atlantis. It's not all true what Plato wrote and therefor you don't have to read the book. Some things are very difficult to explain on a science forum you know. I don't think I can tell much here. People 'feel' too much with their brains, they've lost the true connection to themselves. You have to feel with your heart not your brain.
Try to be open minded to people who have other possibilities which you may not understand at once.....
But the longer you think about it the more you'll come to the conclusion that it's not all belony or whatever the word is.

I stop with this and look if there's a forum here where I can put down in writing what I want to tell.
I don't think this the right place, don't know if there is a right forum for this. I start look for it. Maybe I start a thread myself.
You here are too focussed on proof and tell eachother what may be. Yeah, that'll help.
I hope they never find out what happened, because then they can destroy again.
No, thank you....

Oxygen:
I agree with Howard. I have stated along these lines elsewhere in the forum.

Whammy:
Could you please condense and post the most juicy part of that book "Children of Matrix". It sounded like a SF book I read by Colin Wilson, long time ago. If you have watched Startrek Voyager series, I will direct you to pay attention to a specific episode where Seven of Nine tried to assimilate several gigaquads of data and came up with the conspiracy theory... all sound and logical...

Banshee:
Hieee....Telepathy is a very powerful tool. Were you in my dream last night? If so, thank you. :)
You are in the right place for you thoughts. just start a new thread under Pseudoscience.

Thank you Kmguru, I think I will do that......
:)

Originally posted by Banshee

And then Atlantis. There is a lot more to the 'story' of Atlantis. It's not all true what Plato wrote and therefor you don't have to read the book. Some things are very difficult to explain on a science forum you know. I don't think I can tell much here. People 'feel' too much with their brains, they've lost the true connection to themselves. You have to feel with your heart not your brain.
Try to be open minded to people who have other possibilities which you may not understand at once.....
But the longer you think about it the more you'll come to the conclusion that it's not all belony or whatever the word is.
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Ok. So whose heart is right? Yours or mine? Or are you trying to tell me how I'm supposed to feel as well as think. Scientists and researcher have been putting 2+2 together since the dawn of time to formulate their fact-based opinions. Some of which later were found to be FACT.
In the Bermuda Triangle, divers have found sumerged buildings, walls, roads, stone cirlces like Stonehenge and even what appear to be pyramids near Bimini under the waters of the Bahama Banks.("Atlantis, The Eight Continent", Fawcett Books, New York, 1984--referenced in Icke's book)
True/False? A group conspiracy to turn fiction into non-fiction and sell some book? And these are "New York Best-Sellers List" books too, let me tell you. These guys are rich now.........not!

I suppose you think slaves built the pyramids. The Great Giza Pyramid has enough stone in it to bulid 30 Empire State buildingds. 6 and a half million tons. Individual stones weighing 70, 200, and even 460 plus tons. But, generations of slaves built them. :rolleyes:
Icke's book talks about the prymaids also. But, Atlantis and the pyramids, it's all connected.

I don't mean to keep leaving you guys hanging but I'll tell you more as I go along. I'm about 75% done with the book.

Go buy the book! It's worth it!
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Originally posted by Banshee

I stop with this and look if there's a forum here where I can put down in writing what I want to tell.
I don't think this the right place, don't know if there is a right forum for this. I start look for it. Maybe I start a thread myself.
You here are too focussed on proof and tell eachother what may be. Yeah, that'll help.
I hope they never find out what happened, because then they can destroy again.
No, thank you....

Nice "heart-felt" opinion! :D / ;)

there is also a possibility that atlantis (or any other disappeared civilization) was destroyed by an asteroid rain falling each X years. that could be a cause of nibiru (12th planet-x) or pleiades photon belt.
also, that explains why shumerian civilization had such great astronomical knowledge.
or, remember this:

1:19:24:Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

i definately think that it was an asteroid. time to wait 2012.....

News two you whammy, a line that stretchs 40,000 miles is around the earth twice. Another thing, the caribbean plate is not vast, in fact it is very small comparatively. The azores are a couple hundred miles from the joining point of the north american and african tectonic plates. Plus the plates move in opposite directions so that whole theory of Atlntis in the azores is b.s.. Maybe that author should take a look at a map

Whammy, they find walls and pieces of buildings beneath the Black See too, so why can't Atlantis lie there?

And I will not pay attention to what you had to say to me about the Ancient Pyramids and do if you know everything.
Well, you could be very wrong.
Who are you to tell me what I know about Ancient Civilizations and their great knowledge and wisdom.......

Slaves.......YOU MAKE ME VERY ANGRY, so stop with it Whammy
You don't know what you're talking about.
:confused:

Sorry Howardstern, now you are incorrect.
People don't use 100% of their brains, they do not so......
For example: Everybody can learn to communicate telepathical, are you a telepath?? Don't think so......
Ever had an out of your body experience???? Don't think so....
You want more examples. let me know, you can get them.

Let me know telepathical, I am waiting for your message.
Understand that the human mind can reach very far.
No ocean or land shall disturb the telepathical message you send.....



Although I do <u>not</u> discount telepathy (in fact I do believe that it exists), I cannot understand how you think that this could be used as an example of your belief that there are unused areas of the human brain.

Out-of-body experiences? If your are out of your body, Banshee, then doesn't this also include your mind as well?:p

If you have such overwhelming evidence of telepathy, then you should publish your findings and get the credit for it.

" I suppose you think slaves built the pyramids. The Great Giza Pyramid has enough stone in it to bulid 30 Empire State buildingds. 6 and a half million tons. Individual stones weighing 70, 200, and even 460 plus tons. But, generations of slaves built them. "

Not entirely true but a hell of a lot closer than any other theory that you can put up. Especially a higher technology or a race of extremely advanced people that sank.

" True/False? A group conspiracy to turn fiction into non-fiction and sell some book? And these are "New York Best-Sellers List" books too, let me tell you. These guys are rich now.........not! "

If I were to believe that all those New York best sellers were true then the world ended may 5 last year and life as I knew it ended at the turn of the century due to the computer crisis. Books sell based on what people want to believe, not what is real. Hence pseudoscience.

" For example: Everybody can learn to communicate telepathical, are you a telepath?? Don't think so......
Ever had an out of your body experience???? Don't think so....
You want more examples. let me know, you can get them."

I would like to believe in telepathy but there is no evidence for this at all. It is a neat concept and one that cannot truly be discounted as false yet but also cannot be said to be true. I await that day when it is proven but until then....

" People 'feel' too much with their brains, they've lost the true connection to themselves. You have to feel with your heart not your brain. "

True, but you need to learn with the brain. Too much of feeling with the heart leads to superstition and fallacy.

Atlantis is more than likely a true story in some respects. Most likely it was more advanced than other cultures of its time but still not that much technology. It would have been just another normal ancient society that was destroyed by a disaster. Who knows, that disaster may not have even been sinking. Volcano or maybe a tsunami would be near to what we have puzzled together, time changes many things. Sorry, Atlantis is not some place where they had supreme technology or were a super intelligent species. It is not a bubble on the ocean floor either.

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A passage from the book, "Children of the Matrix" by David Icke. Remember this is NON-FICTION!! This is documented, researched stuff.
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Remember "Chariots of the Gods" I have forgot the author's name,that was all documented researched stuff!
So he said!
Also remember when D.Icke first started this,he was quoted as saying in the news papers over here,that he was"God or the son of God"
He was a TV announcer in this country.
The above are just my views as I remember them & they might not be exact fact but I am sure you could research them.

Elsewhere I noted that if there was one or more advanced civilization that used technology, then they would have knowledge of asteroids and its effect upon impact. If the civilization was similar to ours present or more advanced, we would have found relics somewhere. There has been no time capsules unearthed anywhere to give us that clue. No space junk, pyramids on moon, underground habitat etc. Each major (dino disaster) asteroid impact destroys an area the size of Texas. That lives a lot of area untouched and can have artifacts buried. No sign of stable compounds like some polymers, gold, titanium circuit boards, computers, flying machines, time travel gadgets, coke bottles, crystal chandeliers, light bulbs, large metal spindles, internal laser etched glass blocks, laser rock carving in caves, lights using unknown energy in pyramids, nuclear devices or isotopes, advanced chemicals, diamond bonded metal alloys...and the list goes on....

regarding kmguru reply about evidence of lost civilizations' progress:

i think that previous civilizations followed the path of self-realization instead of technlogical. for example:
-Telepathy vs. Telephone
-Remote Viewing vs. Television
-Connecting Cosmic Logos vs. Computers
-Teleportation vs. Vehicles as Cars, Ships & Airplanes
-Akashic Record vs. Information-Medias (Books, Newsletters, TV)

i think that explains why we cant find any hi-tech stuff from ancient people. maybe they were notified about problems of technological path? looking on our civlization - it's destroying itself. ecological time bomb was started...

a good article about self-realization vs technology (from R.K. Mueller) can be found on http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/realization-vs-technology.html

I would tend to agree with, FA_Q2. Not that an Atlantis did not exist rather that it probably did exist and was the shining glory of it's civilization. But that doesn't mean we will find those items tha kmguru has mentioned. To be advanced within the framework of the times is not a large stretch of the imagination. I don't not think that you will find some glorious civilization that had access to the same level of technology that we do today. If they did you could not keep from stumbling upon some of the areas where they got their raw materials to build, develop, and sustain their way of life. We get materials from around the globe and it takes it to make the things we have been accustom too. Sure a graded road might not last long in the span to time as far as durability goes but a mine dug into a cliff would. It would be there until that section of the contient disappeared into a plate fracture or until something major like an earth quake closed it up. Even so there would be other areas of the world more stable geologically that would remain. This is something that wuld not stay hidden for very long. Think about it. We have evidence in the form of standing stones (monolithic structures) that go back farther than any recorded history. And it can be told from where they mined their stone. We are amazed that such feats were accomplished. Some areas are under water as in the Bremuda Triangle area. Still we know where they got their material from. Why is there no such record for Atlantis? Even if it sank beneath the ocean there would be something there to find.

I don't think there will be found evidence..

And Howardstern, the ability of telepathy is gone by most op the people, just like out of your body experiences.
If you go out of your body, you can see yourself on the bed or where ever you are when you like to 'travel'.
Your body just keeps on breathing and all, 'cause you're always connected with your body.
It's not such a strange thing, you can even learn it, if you have the patience to train yourself. Try meditating first, you have to clear your head, that's a difficult thing if you're not used to it.

You can always go back to your body too, by only thinking of it.
:)
You see, these things are not so weird as you seem to find it,
Luckily more and more people are gifted nowadays.
Maybe there is hope.....
Maybe you try to find a good book, where you can read some things about it, so you don't have to ridicule me any more.....Thank you!!
I don't know a title in english, but I'm sure the books are for sale everywhere.
Or maybe you better go to the library, then you don't have to spend money on it.
Goodbye......:rolleyes:

In the earlier day's, long ago, the ability to telepathy was a common good from every one.

Not now, when everybody has their minds on expensive cars and houses and now they are busy to distrust and destroy, they don't FEEL any more, FEEL WITH YOUR HEART, not with your mind.
And don't try to be funny again Howardstern, you'd better have some respect for other people here on the forums:(

Don't you all see??? People are greedy, suspicious and paranoid.
They don't dare to trust other people any more.
People built huge brick walls in their heads, so nothing can reach their Deeper Self.
Most people lost the ability to come in touch with their Deeper Selves, because material things is what we need....!!!

Wake up, no material things you need.
It's love........

Maybe then the humans find back what they once lost.........

I once had an idea put to me by someone ,like Banshee ,that Atlantis was actually the sea,& the vehicles described by Plato were the Dolphins & Whales.
:cool:

Blackhaz:

I do understand what you are getting at. It may take us perhaps 10,000 to 50,000 years to achieve the next step in evolution if we tinker our DNA to harness new source of energy without blowing us up. It is highly unlikely that a biological specis can just evolve from animal to energy state, bypassing several level of biological intelligence. It just does not happen in nature without someone meddling with the natural process of evolution.

Therefore, we all have to go through the stage we are in. No shortcuts. And if there was such a civilization, no artifact exists. What you said is our future only. This does not mean some external influence (since you brought up Akashic Records!). The description of gadgets and machinaries in Vedas is what we see today - from napam bombs, air chariots, climate changing devices, guided and DNA targeted missiles. Either they were an extremely active imagination, or based on some truth that we can not fathom. Consider the fact that the materia medica at Vedic time has more details of herbal information than what we can do today with our HPLC and Hyperspectral technology.

But that is for another day...

Banshee: <i>"And don't try to be funny again Howardstern, you'd better have some respect for other people here on the forums".</i>
<b>I think you are funny, Banshee (again).</b>


Banshee: <i>In the earlier day's, long ago, the ability to telepathy was a common good from every one</i>
<b> How do know that Banshee? Where did you read this? Were you around in the early days, long ago?</b>


Banshee: <i>I don't think there will be found evidence.. </i>
<b>Without evidence Banshee, it remains pseudo-science. Prove it!</b>

" And Howardstern, the ability of telepathy is gone by most op the people, just like out of your body experiences.
If you go out of your body, you can see yourself on the bed or where ever you are when you like to 'travel'.
Your body just keeps on breathing and all, 'cause you're always connected with your body.
It's not such a strange thing, you can even learn it, if you have the patience to train yourself. Try meditating first, you have to clear your head, that's a difficult thing if you're not used to it.

You can always go back to your body too, by only thinking of it. "

Yea, it is so amazing what a little meditation and a few caps can do :)

" i think that previous civilizations followed the path of self-realization instead of technlogical. for example:
-Telepathy vs. Telephone
-Remote Viewing vs. Television
-Connecting Cosmic Logos vs. Computers
-Teleportation vs. Vehicles as Cars, Ships & Airplanes
-Akashic Record vs. Information-Medias (Books, Newsletters, TV) "

That makes no sense. There has to be some progression. If it was that easy then we would be using it today. Somebody would have utilized it and spread the ability.

" Maybe you try to find a good book, where you can read some things about it"

There are no good books since the entire thing is a psudoscience.

" Don't you all see??? People are greedy, suspicious and paranoid. "

hahaha. Have a mirror?

Wet1
Yes, those evidences would be there but there would also be items made of other things that would last. Equivalents of today's Styrofoam, plastic and other non biodegradable substances. Mettle would be common in their society and we would find many mettle objects. None of this is found. Where is all of the evidence.

I actually <u>do</u> believe in telepathy. In fact, I personally know that it exists. I have experienced many, many telepathic experiences (honestly). But I do <u>not</u> have any documentation that I can use to convince others with.:( Often I find myself playing "the devils advocate".

I don't mean to be tough on Banshee (well maybe a little), but I would like to hear about proof over hearsay.

Telepathy exists, let me tell you that.
Why is it so hard to believe?? What is it that make you all laugh about these things.
You do not know a thing about this kind of experiences.
The only way is to experience yourself
But since everybody is to busy with keeping up appearrances, the real signs don't come to you any more.
Don't you understand, you chose for money and material posessions.
You all built walls in your mind, thick brick walls. So you do not hear if any body needs you bad.
Because you think it is easier not to believe it exists, for it might be scary to you.

Well I have information for you, I am a telapath, come and proof I am not.
You can laugh again, you silly material people, you do not know what misery it can bring to some one who lives in a world where most of the people laugh about it

You are scared for these people, who knows what they will find in your head......!!!!
There are more and more people who have the ability of being telepathic and other gifts, like an out of your body experience.
Man, THAT is scary, it can't be....Lies, drugs and things, and then they think they go out of their body.

Are you all narrow-minded people here????
Nobody ever had this experience or don't you dare writing about it, you cowards!!!

No, make fun of it and laughter......If you are happy with that behaviour, do so.........Stay as narrow-minded as you are and please do not open up to people who are a little different.
For it is not possible you all say.
And that what you all say......That is the truth isn't it???
Be happy with your narrow-minded truth!!!!!
:confused:

It reminds me of the exchange between psychic Sylvia and debunker Amazing Randi on CNN Larri King show last night (sept 3,2001).

Need I say more...!

Longtime ago, I amazed myself on palm reading. I was so good, I was consistently 85% correct. And I dont believe in it. It is one of those life's mysteries, someday we will crack.

Hey guys,

I just noticed the last few threads and thought I'd point out my skills. Seriously, I constantly think things in my head right before somebody might say something. Like I mean think almost exactly what they were going to say and then they say it. And sometimes, I know which special movie presentations or about series's right before they are to come. Strange thing. I litterally thought I was going crazy. I'm used to the ability now though.

I dont know whether its my strange introspectual ability to analyze things like patterns subconsciously, But it seems to run in the family. In fact I have an uncle who makes a REALLY good living off that sortof thing, (Psychic, cabbalah, therapy.)

I think we do not give much credit to our sensory perceptions. That is why we get amazed when someone uses the them to its full potential....

By telepathy you mean what?
The ability to talk to other people with your mind?
The ability to read other peoples minds?
Or the ability to do both?

The word Telepathy, you can find under T in your dictionary......
If you can not react normal, then don't react!!

And Elbaz, you may have something there.
Cherish it, and do not tell others, for you see how the people here at the sciforums, react.....

They rather give a lot of comments, but it are EMPTY WORDS....

Are you all afraid, can't you all get out of your narrow-minded little reality's........

Come on, give me feedback here.....please...

I'm kind of shocked the word was even in there the book is from the late 50's.
Telepathy- Apparent communication from one mind to another otherwise than through the channels of sense; thought transference.:D

I was going to post something similar to this.

I personally never had an experience with this happening.
But I just met this most extraordinary women last week and after hours of talking she told me that she could "read minds" for lack of a better explanation. But from what I gather she can tune into people and extract some thoughts from them. But also she can be in a room talking to someone and out of nowhere someone's thoughts pop in to her head. After a quick look around the room she can find the person, When this happens it's generally someone that's in a heightened sense of emotion angry, sad,etc...
Her grandmother, mother, and her to sisters also have 'it' to different degrees, some stronger than others. But it also goes beyond that into dreams that come true, That's when this 'gift' doesn't really seem to be a gift at all. For the most part they don't come often but when the do they're generally bad dreams, nightmares.
Banshee I for one completely believe you. You must be quite special yourself.
This girl swept me off my feet from the moment I met her. Like I said I don't have this gift but I knew from the start that she was very special, I don't know how or why but I did. She didn't know anything about my girlfriend passing away and after talking to me for an hour or so she asked me why I was sad and at the time I was actually in a very good mood. Then she said that there was a deep sadness in me some great loss. I was taken aback a bit but told her what happened, that was my first experience with anything like this. Trust me Banshee I am a definite believer!
Now I talk to her every night for hours, I think I'm falling in love or already in love with her, I wonder if she knows? ';)'

Thank you for your reply Patman.
Now you know how it is, perhaps, you may understand it is not all crapp or what do you call it in english.
:)
Thank you very much.

Originally posted by kmguru
It reminds me of the exchange between psychic Sylvia and debunker Amazing Randi on CNN Larri King show last night (sept 3,2001).

Need I say more...!

Longtime ago, I amazed myself on palm reading. I was so good, I was consistently 85% correct. And I dont believe in it. It is one of those life's mysteries, someday we will crack.

:cool: :D :D :D :D :cool:

:D :D

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Crack as hard as you like my friend, you will not find the answer.

Goodbye for now....
:)
I'll be talking to you.....

Not funny, Howardstern.

Narrow-minded f**ing, silly american.....

PEACE BANSHEE!!!!!!! PEACE!:D :D :D :D

Crack as hard as you like my friend, you will not find the answer.

Not funny, Howardstern.

Narrow-minded f**ing, silly american.....

Hey Banshee, if you are the Gate Keeper of the knowledge that I seek, then the universe is but a wart on my ass ! ! ! !:D

WAFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(what a f***u***c**86*g laugh!!!!):D

Banshee, I usually will respond to the PM's that are sent to me, but occasionally I do decide NOT to respond to people such as you for the main reason being that your kind usually finds a way to alter my PM's & then complain to the administrator in the hope of having me banned from the site! And god knows that I don't want Porfiry to think that I have been sending obscene PM's to freaks from the Netherlands ! ! ! ! ! ! Besides, I do a pretty awesome job at responding with obscenity in the public forums where everyone can be witness to what is said, and by who. I prefer to keep it open that way. (Actually I'm seldom obscene (and then only in good humor & taste)). People see Howard and they automatically assume the worst!

In fact Banshee, it is likely that you will never get a PM from me. I generally only send PM messages to people that I have come to know and respect........................................... so sorry Banshee:eek:

This doesn't mean that I will not send PM's to other members at sciforums since I respect a lot of other people here. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. The main point is that I just don't respect you, Banshee!!!!!! Not at all.

So go ahead Banshee & carry out that psychic/telepathy threat that you made against me. <i>TAKE A NUMBER, MOTHER F***ER! :D I've already got several voodoo curses and other promises of death hanging over my head as it stands. </i> Amateurs!!!

If you have the great power that you claim, then please demonstrate this for all the members at sciforums. I'm sure that all present would be very interested. I know that I would!

The fact is that you don't. Probably never did.

The search for the facts to prove the phenomena of telepathy is already most elusive and difficult, without nutcakes like you getting in the way and giving the true researchers even more B.S. to contend with. Every time the news media gives air time to fruits like you and your UFO abducted buddies, the true researchers in the field are automatically placed into <u>your</u> category.

Your words dear Howardstern, your words.
I asked you polite to leave me alone.
Don't follow me with your disgusting answers.
I am not the kind of person who complains about some one, so come on, throw it all out.

It feels good, not, for once to shout at a person you can't see, you can't stand or what so ever, and from who you don't know a thing.
Throw it all out Howardstern, it looks like you are exploding.....
Had a bad day or something?
Throw it all out Howardstern, come on......
It will do you good.....

Howardstern, if something is bothering you......you know where to find me.
Bye.

:cool:

The problem still lies in the proof. You can explain all day how there are so many people with this telepathy ability and how our evil callousness has led to its loss but there is not a single shred of proof. Why is there still a million dollars in prize money out there, why can't a single person come fourth with scientific proof of this phenomenon. Now I am asking you to open your mind and think. I am quite open to the possibility of telepathy but I need some sort of proof to back its reality. We are not close minded here, we are critical thinkers.

Howardstern, if something is bothering you......you know where to find me.

:D :D :D :D See you on the telepath battlefield!!!!!!!!:D :D :D

There are people enough nowaday's who have this ability. The question is why they are not taken serious.
All scientists want proof, you can get your proof.
Only if you are willing to see that there is such thing as telepathy.
If you always judge immediately without listening and/or looking well, you may never find your answer, or proof if you want.

Howardstern, where were you this afternoon?? I waited for your message, but nothing came through.......
How is this possible??????
Try it again, a little harder, I don't get any thing from you.
And that is exactly what you did, nothing....

:p

There are plenty who will listen if any real evidence can be shown. I am one of them. What about that million dollar challenge that so many have turned down.

I am not kidding Fa_Q2, There is proof, if you are really wanting to see it.
If you open up instead of staying skeptic because there is not scientifical proof. It is something born at the same time as you. You are born with that, if you have the ability to lay telepathical contacts, or/and receiving the messages.
It is easy told, only words, you don't know the misery that can come from it.

You be happy then, stay your skeptical self, it is a lot safer....

Yep you're a freked out cunt banshee. Stupid bitch.

Charon:

Not necessarily so. Those that believe in Angels and supernatural, can say that sometimes God needs very bright people and recalled a few to do his work.

On behalf of those of us who came to know Howardstern in this forum, I can say that he understands the truth and his heart is in the right place. Only thirst for knowledge and free-will will liberate you...that was his essence.

Welcome to sciforums, Charon...

I'm sorry. i didn't mean to be insensitive to howardsterns friends. I think that the terrerists that did this deserve what bush and the army gives to them. I'm glad to see all the people flying the american flags today. I think that the USA is the greatest country ever.

First of all, I am not a freak.
I never cursed any body, curses are nor real, they only exist in the mind.
Why Howardstern was so mad at me I will never know.
Not because I lay a curse on him.....
The idea alone is too deranged for words.

I am not a freak, nor a witch, I don't lay curses, curses are not real.
It is not possible to curse some one.
Howardstern doubted me for being psychic.
Maybe he was afraid of that.
I don't know.
If any one knows why he was this mad with me, I really want to know why.
This is going through my head since the day he disappeared, please tell me.
I never mean to do harm, on no one, never, I am not a violent person. I don't mean to hurt any one. I only asked him to stop his action with the squirrels he likes to shoot....
That is all.

Calmdown Banshee, Howard always tried to get a rise out of people. Do not worry about it...

But I do worry about it.
I don't understand......

He is gone...so let us leave that thought behind....