I'm only mentioning the film as people are awaiting its release,
although looking at a clippet I thought Hobbits were suppose to have big feet.

Before anyone asks, I have no clue as to the Rangers (soccer or otherwise)

If you see the film, have read the book, or happened to wonder into an alternative but fictional reality, tell me and the rest of the forum about it we'd love to hear :D

Don't worry I'll try to see it next week when it comes out, I can't wait I can't wait!!!

EW (Entertainment Weekly) gave it an A! They had a sneek peek or something and treated it like any other review. I can't wait I can't wait. I'm so hyped I'm gonna 'splode!!

It's more like a fantasy than sci-fi.

Well the hobbit actors are wearing prosthetic feet.
I think it will be wonderful. I had the trilogy hardback with the art made by Alan Lee which influenced the look of the movie. I gave the book to my older sister, who is a living Tolkien encyclopedia.
She used to scare me to death as a kid by reading aloud from the books while stalking me with crooked fingers :)

Well, we all know good scifi is, at its heart, fantasy.

The <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/reviews/newsid_1702000/1702177.stm">BBC review</A> is definitely favorable.

I'm one of those fools who never read the book until now (though I read the Hobbit in high school). I am working my way through it now, and once I'm done with exams I'm sure to have finished the book before I see the movie. It really is exceptional.

wait till you get to the second, porf, it's SO hard to finish. I hear the third's good though.

It isnt "a fantasy film" It is THE FANTASY FILM! Im really excited about this to, never looked at any of the books but the movie looks really really good. Harry potter can go to hell. Up till now one of my favorite fantasy films was the laberenth (did i spell that wrong, who cares?), but now i just dont know anymore.

lol

Where ya been?

No where special.......

I have been working on getting through it but have temporarily put it off till someone else finishes it. I am part way through. It seems well written and I like a book with a lot of pages to it. So that you can get into the world the author has made and if it is well written enough you can literally feel and see it in your mind's eye. Short stories just don't have that kind of development time.

I find that creating a world that a fantasy or scifi universe can easily fit into is hard, a world where everything fits together just like it does here. I have a blurred picture of one in 'Evolution,' but I've decided to rewrite the whole story because of a flurry of problems like lack of description, too much of this, too little of that. But I have at least a blurred picture and I'm planning to finish writing the plot to it today.

Where'd THAT come from?

Lord of the rings is the classic of fantasy litterature.
It has a complete mythology. There are scholars who devote their lives to mapping familytrees, learning elfscript and the darktounge of mordor.
My previously mentioned elder sister is one of these students. The material is just huge and it´s all made by one man, Tolkien.

It´s not just The Hobbit and Lord of the rings. There´s the Silmarillion, bestiarys, Poems of Tom Bombadill and so on. The mythology is so rich (and I guess that´s why the trilogy might be a bit heavy. There is too much content).

Without Tolkien us nerds would have a totally different evolution.
D&D? Never ever :(
Harry Potter? Starwars? Warhammer? Every piece of fantasy (all mediums) since the ´50´s pay their dues to Tolkien.

people keep saying that but how are masterpieces like starwars and harry potter copying lord of the rings? What examples are there?

Simply that lord of the rings is a comprehensive fantasy with past, present and future. It is about questing (as are most epics) and contains the archetypes of modern adventure fantasy. It established the groundrules of fantasy imagery and all works since then have been influenced by it since then.
It´s not ripping off, when a work of art rings true it becomes part of iconic-subconsciousness and seeps out of every artpiece that stands in it´s influence.

If it hadn´t been Lotr something else would have emerged and so would fantasy have had another legacy making it distinctly different, and propably identical in some ways. Archetypes being archetypes :)

I saw the movie today and have one thing to say breathtaking...absolutley breathtaking. The settings were so well done the movie seemed like a historical documentary, not fake and prosthetic like some other fantasy films (I.e. Dungeons and Dragons.)

I've read, Lord of the Rings, Similarrion and the Hobbit (working on finding some more Middle Earth stuff) and have to say, the movie is very accurate in what it potrays from the book.


Go out and see it, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

I'll be seeing it this sunday with a couple o friends, I can't wait. I hope it gets the academy award (which may be a long shot) so it can bring the scifi and fantasy genre the glory it deserves! To the best of my knowledge the only scifi OR fantasy movie that won an academy award was 2001. Everything else just hasn't been really, truly breathtaking or incredible like Gladiator or, say, To Kill a Mockingbird. I also heard that some star wars fans want Peter Jackson, the director, to direct the next star wars movie, so we can be sure that at least THAT one will be good. I have no faith in the next one, since it'll probably be exactly the same as the Empire Strikes Back, which was actually a fairly good movie, but so was A New Hope, remember?

I was just wondering how other people, mainly those who havent read the book, found this movie.
I read the hobbit when i was much younger and altho the movie made total sense to me, you could see that a lot of the deeper things had been edited out...

I found the casting very impressive and never has Liv Tyler looked so stunning!

are there any videographers here who could explain the way that they would have made the size difference so pronounced but natural looking with the humans and hobbits?

being the amateur 'videographer' that I am, and watching a few specials on the movie, I've found that they either use midgets in the long shots ("the stuff of nightmares"-elijah wood) and make the hobbits stand on their knees or have the humans stand on platforms out of the shot.

Now about the movie: INCREDIBLE.

That's all I have to say about it. The best fantasy/scifi movie ever, maybe the best movie of the year or even decade.

I thought lord of the rings was excellent. and it has been nominated for academy awards in the catagorys of make up and special effects, standard awards for fantasty/scifi movies. Maybe it will get something at the hugos or saturn awards.

A friend loaned "The Hobbit" to me at age fifteen, and that's all it took. I was hooked. For a span of many years I would wait for the weather to begin to turn each fall; until I was ready to take the journey again. There was nothing like hearing the October winds howling outside my bedroom window at night and taking every single step with the nine members of The Fellowship as each hastened toward his doom.

I've seen the movie twice now. Peter Jackson has earned my respect. In more ways than I expected he (and his ubba creative team) interpreted the story and saw Middle Earth exactly as I did. Where my imagination did not match his is not significant. I think he did an outstanding job and I'll be one of the first in line to see the next two parts.

For those who are only reading Tolkien for the first time, I just want to say that after reading "The Hobbit," "The Lord of the Rings" Trilogy, and "The Silmarillion" countless times...I STILL discover something new every time I pick up one of these works.

These are truly wondrous tales.

(P. S. Happy New Year, All!)

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Counterbalance

Brilliant! Absolutely wonderful. I was feeling chills of wellbeing and excitement all through it. Finally a fantasy that feels real :)

Guess whaaat? Guess what I have? Can you? Can you?

well maybe you can

LOTR-The movie with elijah wood etc IN MY POCKET (I'm wearing cargo pants). I'm going to be seeing if it works in FOUR HOURS.

I have a half day at school today. Yay!

In your pocket? A copy you mean?
Man, you´re missing out on something if you don´t treat yourself to seeing it on the big screen first.
I´ll get the dvd as soon as it´s out.
Great movies deserve the best presentation :)

I have read the book on more than a few occasions and was dubious to say the least with the prospect of a film of the book or would it be a Hollywood film of the book?

I was pleasantly surprised with the film; although I found myself on more than one occasion saying, that does not happen in the book! The person playing Frodo was the one big downer - he really put me off the film as a "collectors item". How anyone can be that smarmy and be alive is beyond me. However, the effects are outstanding. How to make normal sized people look miniscule was brilliantly done. Gimli the dwarf is actually played by John Rhys Davies (Indiana Jones etc) who is in fact enormous!! The effects are worth it alone, but the story was, in the main, adhered to. That spider, crawling down Sams coat, underneath the wraith did not happen; Arwen did not summon the waters of the river to wash away the wraiths; and a few others too. I look forward to Episode 2; out later this year but I wish Frodo could keep that damn ring on and become invisible!!
:rolleyes:

I was pleasantly surprised with the film; although I found myself on more than one occasion saying, that does not happen in the book!

When we think about the length and breadth of such a three-part epic, and that the whole of it is being made into movies, then I think most are willing to consider how difficult it is to condense just the first part of such a tale into a three hour segment. Inevitable I suppose that there would have to be some rearranging done, i.e., Arwen at the river. (Not to mention the misleadingly brutal falling-out between Saruman the White and Gandalf the Grey at the Tower of Orthanc in Isengard.) True, these things didn’t happen that way, but they worked well enough. (And the white horses at the forefront of that floodwall were quite impressive regardless of who conjured them. Wow...does anyone speak the Elven tongue as well as Liv Tyler? :) )

As for Frodo... Well, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, naturally. Yet the “smarmy-ness” you perceive, Red Devil, might be seen as “innocence” by others. In the stories the hobbits were portrayed as a child-like race, yet a few like Bilbo and his nephew Frodo were exceptional. And like the British people from whom Tolkien drew much of his inspiration, Frodo and other hobbits tended to put on a good face, kept their chins up, or made light of things when the truth was darker than any wished to deal with. They were an exceedingly sentimental bunch at times, too. The Frodo in the movie didn’t exactly match the Frodo I’ve held in my imagination for all of these years either, but I think it’s understood (by authors and movie-makers alike) that different interpretations are going to develop.

That said, the movie WAS a pleasant surprise, wasn’t it? They got so many details right, they’ve made me look forward to seeing how well they pull off the next two. Nothing will take the place of the books themselves, but all things considered, I was very pleased.

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Counterbalance

All three films have already been made and in the can; they filmed them back to back. OK I agree ref Hobbits; but it is just that Frodo was more unhobbit like than the other hobbits. Regarding the white horses in the water, I believe that is actually mentioned in the book. The "war" between Gandalf and Suraman was almost as I depicted it complete with the Lord of the Eagles coming to rescue him, but not, as in the film, by the hands of a moth!! Nevertheless, an excellent film.:rolleyes:

R.D. I believe you've misread or misinterpreted some of my post. As for the falling-out between Saruman and Gandalf, yes, it happened in the book and in the movie, but the movie depicts the event as being more brutal than does the book. True, the moth was added in the movie. True, the white horses are in the book and movie. True, they've already made the other films. Again, I think you've misconstrued what I wrote.

No biggie about differing opinions on Frodo, not to me anyway. I offered what might explain why some Tolkien readers perceive the movie Frodo one way or another.

My point is... that regardless of some reader's preferences, the movie is still great in many folks' opinion. We seemed to be agreeing on this.

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Counterbalance

Jeez, is it always this hard to log in via emails!! Yes Coutnerbalance you are quite correct; same meaning different meaning etc etc. My apologies. :rolleyes:

Well, before, awhile ago the copy didn't work, there was nothing on the cd. But now, I have a real one, and I get to watch this masterpiece every day!

(btw I did see lord of the rings in the theatre FIRST)

I have seen LOTR twice in cinema and have downloaded a DVD copy (640x272) on 2 CD's from KaZaA.

I LOVE THAT MOVIE

Is it dvd quality? My copy has horrible sound and to really get an idea of what is happening I have to watch it in a small window. But nonetheless every time I watch it the film just takes my breath away...

yes DVD q. try download KaZaA frm download.com and download tht movie frm kazaa:confused:

anyway, look for a dvd writen in filname. this is of course if you have more thn 5 Kb/s speed

I have seen 'Lord of the Rings' seven times now and I would like to see it at least once more before it finishes here. Then I won't be able to wait until the DVD comes out (with the extra footage).

Every time I see the movie I notice something new. I went a couple of days ago and for the first time notice the stone trolls in the woods just before Arwen arrives.

The movie is breathtaking especially the New Zealand scenery.

So much attention was paid to detail throughout the film.

I have never enjoyed a movie as much as I enjoyed 'Lord of the Rings"

Are there any websites that deal with the dvd, miss?

I think the DVD is being released in August. There are to be two releases, it is the second one that will have the extra footage.

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?3755

Thanks:D