Which disgusts you more, LOTR or HP? I myself find that both make me sick or feel ill when I watch them, the worst of these 2 is very, very difficult for me to accept, however it would have to be LOTR. This series is so boring and so completely sick I feel ill seeing it, HP is also sick... hummm maybe then umm

Harry Potter sucks more, there's no question.... it's horrible. Here look at this it makes fun of LOTR and makes me think it's the worst :p

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_xWBnzxZPGk

I would need to say then both suck, and they suck exactly as much as eachother, therefore I take an unconventional approach and say both suck equally!

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Which disgusts you more, LOTR or HP? I myself find that both make me sick or feel ill when I watch them, the worst of these 2 is very, very difficult for me to accept, however it would have to be LOTR. This series is so boring and so completely sick I feel ill seeing it, HP is also sick... hummm maybe then umm

No wonder you have no girlfriend.

Dear All,

LOTR is definitely better, however i wish Gandalf had let rip with a few hard-core spells though.

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zak

If we are talking about the books then Harry Potter is a million times better.

If we are talking about the films then they are both shite.

Yawn! I found "dungeons and dragons" more entertaining!

If we are talking about the books then Harry Potter is a million times better.

If we are talking about the films then they are both shite.

i wouldnt go so far as to call the lotr movies "shite"....i think it was the best series of movies they could have made at the time, adapting from such a deep novel.

being able to take a book of that scope and make it into a movie without changing fundamental aspects of the plot is pretty impressive, in my eyes.

i wouldnt go so far as to call the lotr movies "shite"....i think it was the best series of movies they could have made at the time, adapting from such a deep novel.

being able to take a book of that scope and make it into a movie without changing fundamental aspects of the plot is pretty impressive, in my eyes.

I guess you are right. Since the book was awful you can't really expect the movie to be any better.

Theres no accounting for taste, but still finding the LOTR book to be awful? are you sure you read it, and placed in its historical context as being the first ever elves orks and goblins epic ever?
Did you like Eragon instead maybe?

It's about hobbits eating mushrooms. I honestly can't find that very interesting.

spurious:

I guess you are right. Since the book was awful you can't really expect the movie to be any better.


Wow! I empathatically agree. You're the first person I've met that actually shares my view that attempting to read the LoTR series is like trying to pass a rock solid turd.

i read the lord of the rings novels ages ago, and i thought they were good books. didnt tolken give birth to that type of fantasy novel? he has a good imagination,

also i like the depth and roots of his story telling, his play on language and taking old forgotten myths and changing them, everybody changed the way elves were pictured and saw them as little fairy type things. but in old celtic (i believe) elves were seen as tall elegant looking biengs, and he brought back that way of seeing fantasy elves.

there is alot of culture and mythology that went into the creation of the lord of the rings, he spent an awful lot of time and effort creating those books, i have read the others aswell, the hobbit and the silmarilian,

all in all i say the lord of the rings was actualy a decent creation and an original concept, (of sorts) and harry potter is a piece of lame ass shit :), no effort went into harry potter its stupid and very boring. i cant see a comparison between the 2 one is very good and the other is crap.

potter can stick his wand where the sun dont shine.

peace.

i disagree with spurious and mountain. i think there is alot of depth to his creation and effort in writting the novels,

so much mythology, research, folk lore and language went into its creation.


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i disagree with spurious and mountain. i think there is alot of depth to his creation and effort in writting the novels,

so much mythology, research, folk lore and language went into its creation.

Yeah---it's the difference between Stephen King and Hemmingway.

I can't believe Harry Potter is winning. Now I know you people have no taste.

Damn you darksidZz. You negatively phrased the poll and caused me to vote for the wrong one.

i cant see how harry potter can be compared lord of the rings was a good piece of work!, this is madness.

sheer madness.

peace.

i cant see how harry potter can be compared lord of the rings was a good piece of work!, this is madness.

sheer madness.

peace.

Especially considering that JRR Tolkein invented the genre.

i disagree with spurious and mountain. i think there is alot of depth to his creation and effort in writting the novels,

so much mythology, research, folk lore and language went into its creation.


p[eace

People put a lot of mythology, research, folklore and action in the matrix sequels. They still sucked.

I can't believe Harry Potter is winning. Now I know you people have no taste.
and i haven't even voted yet.

I am sorry, HP & LOTR suck so bad it's not even funny. They're so terrible on film that I wanna kill myself then everybody (like cho) whenever I see'm.

The LOTR movies were actually pretty good adaptions of the books. I don't think Jackson could have done much better.

While Harry Potter is not my thing, I would probably love it if I were 12 years old.

Stupid poll btw.

While Harry Potter is not my thing, I would probably love it if I were 12 years old.


And you will love it also if you are 37 years old and have a PhD.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2638/potterct0.gif (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/06/25)

And you will love it also if you are 37 years old and have a PhD.

nah, they were both qiute goo

nah, you would have to be fairly average to get into that sort of stuff.

You would know.

I love LOTR! HP is just gay.

You would know.

yes, i know your average.

lord of the rings??? just didnt interest me after 10yo/...watched 5 minutes of hp/ aaahh it never interrested me...maybe for a few pages but with all that magic and elves and shit. it doesnt surprise me that it is popular with evolutionists thought.

Nothing is more pointless and boring than another lameass wasting valuable hardrive space on some server with mindless bitching about what he/she doesn't like.

I personally think 99% of the movies in Hollywood are recycled genre pieces with no shred of originality. Take has-been actor from the 80's pumped up on steroids, "back again" for another bad movie, stick him with (insert anorexic actress who keeps her -15 dress size by snorting cocaine and running on a tredmill 68 hours a week), add love interest, a pointless sex scene, a bunch of bad dialog, some gimmicky plot we've seen a thousand times, people fighting with guns that look like they came from a battleship, add some bad jokes, lots of white people running scared from typically Arabic bad guys and a token black guy (bit part) written into the film so that it's "politically correct" and there you go...

LOTR and HP are both fine pieces of literature and you are free not to like them. Dickens is a hell of a writer, but you'd have to strap electrodes to my testicles to force me to suffer through one of his crap books...

...personal opinion...

But at least in the case of both LOTR and HP there was a foundation other than some Hollywood producer saying to some screenwriter "okay, we need another Swordfish/Matrix/Terminator movie with some choice ass shots and of course we have to totally demolish New York without anyone really noticing..."

If you ask me that's bullshit. But then I don't pay to see that kind of tripe, so it doesn't matter.

You hated Lord of the Rings. Looks like you just wasted $25 on tickets (assuming with great confidence you saw it alone.)

Neither sucks. LOTR is awesome and a masterpiece.

I am sorry, HP & LOTR suck so bad it's not even funny. They're so terrible on film that I wanna kill myself then everybody (like cho) whenever I see'm.

Yet they both kik your Japanimation squarely in the balls.

Neither sucks. LOTR is awesome and a masterpiece.

Genji you're a genius.

Nothing is more pointless and boring than another lameass wasting valuable hardrive space on some server with mindless bitching about what he/she doesn't like.

Oh the irony...

Well I hate both of them...I mean Harry Potter? Come on...that shit was stupid....and Lord of the Rings was soooo boring that I fell asleep in the theatre...but still even though I hate both LOTR definitely wins...there's no question about it....

i think frodo is stupid though, the main characters in both are little pussys,

lord of the rings should have been about aragorn gimli and legolas, the 3 hard men. i always thought for a supernatural magic casting demigod, gandalf didnt use much cool magic did he? wh wasnt he blasting everybody with fireballs and lightening, i would have went dragonball z on middle earth if i was gandalf. blast them all!.

seriously harry potter was a dick, i couldent even finish the first book and i havent watched all of the movies, i cant finish viewing them, they are so gay.

they should make harry fight frodo in a little bitch fight too see who is the crappest.

was eragorn just using the simular sounding name of aragorn to boost sales? why call it eragorn thats just stupidly simular to aragorn,

peace.

i think frodo is stupid though, the main characters in both are little pussys,

lord of the rings should have been about aragorn gimli and legolas, the 3 hard men. i always thought for a supernatural magic casting demigod, gandalf didnt use much cool magic did he? wh wasnt he blasting everybody with fireballs and lightening, i would have went dragonball z on middle earth if i was gandalf. blast them all!.

seriously harry potter was a dick, i couldent even finish the first book and i havent watched all of the movies, i cant finish viewing them, they are so gay.

they should make harry fight frodo in a little bitch fight too see who is the crappest.

was eragorn just using the simular sounding name of aragorn to boost sales? why call it eragorn thats just stupidly simular to aragorn,

peace.So Harry Potter books are 'gay' as in lame? There is no connotion of homosexuality in Harry Potter or LOTR, unless you homophobes out there picked something up on your gaydar.
Using the word gay for a word like lame makes you a bigot in my book. Thumbs Down EFofC.

Well LoTR appealed to a generation whom have more time and patience to read a 1000 page book, that perhaps meandered a bit. Not any books like it - despite all the attempts. It is kind of surprising that they appeal at all to people out side Britian and surely outside the english speaking world. I used to read that book as a kid, and think like you Chi "shit Frodo killed like one goddam orc in the whole book - what kind of main character is that???".

When you get older you realize his point at making Sam and Frodo so pathetic and weak, yet they carry on. Not everyone in the world can be studs like Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas. Even the Bsquad gets to punt now and then.

Personally I far prefer the Simarillion, which is a farrr more borrrring book. I don't know I just love the "Lore" methodology of the writing I guess. Also in the Simi, you can fill in the huge gaps of story with you own imagination.

Oh - the movies - ya they were ok...

"Last of all Hurin stood alone. Then he cast aside his shield, and wielded an axe two-handed; and it sung that the axe smoked in the black blood of the troll guard of Gothmog until it withered, and each time that he slew Hurin cried: ‘Aure entuluva! Day shall come again!’ Seventy times he uttered that cry, but they took him at last alive, by the command of Morgoth, for the Orcs grappled him with their hands, which clung to him still though he hewed off their arms, and ever their numbers were renewed, until at last he fell buried beneath them. Then Gothmog bound him and dragged him to Angband with mockery. Thus ended the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, as the sun went down beyond the sea. Night fell in Hithlum, and there came a great storm of wind out of the West."

Genji:

Neither sucks. LOTR is awesome and a masterpiece.


You've GOT to be kidding?!

LoTR is perhaps the most boring and convoluted book I have ever read, and that's saying something, given that I've read the unabridged version of 'The Count of Montre Cristo', and several books in the 'Wheel of Time' series.

I can understand where some fans are coming from when they say what a 'fantastic' piece of literature LoTR is. Sure, it's full of detail. Sure, it's indepth. Sure, it contains numerous tangents and plot arcs.

But it's mind numbingly, teeth achingly, brain cell genocidingly boring. Pumping in more detail, tangents, plot arcs, and words, doesn't necessarily make your book better. It just makes me want to skip over the 500 pages of bullshit filler to get to the climax (which was actually rather anti-climatic).

Sadly, Rowling has taken the 'Tolkein' road ever since Book 4. Just pointless, boring, bullshit filler. Nobody cares who Bill, Tonks or Lupus is dating.

I liked Harry Potter and LoTR as books, although I'll be glad when the Potter hype is over. The wheel of time I gave up on after a few books . . .

From memory, the Wheel of Time books were excellent until about book five of six. Then everthing really slowed down.

So Harry Potter books are 'gay' as in lame? There is no connotion of homosexuality in Harry Potter or LOTR, unless you homophobes out there picked something up on your gaydar.
Using the word gay for a word like lame makes you a bigot in my book. Thumbs Down EFofC.

no frodo is totaly gay, him and sam are so pounding each other. that totaly gay look sam gives frodo when he is standing there you know he just sucked frodos cock after that scene was shot.


harry potter is blatently also gay. they are both super gay characters. cant you see that?


peace.

So you didnt mean ghey.

no i mean they are both homosexual. harry potter is lame and gay, frodo is stupid and gay, but lord of the rings is awesome and harry potter is just bullshit,

but they are both gay,

peace.

I am sorry, HP & LOTR suck so bad it's not even funny. They're so terrible on film that I wanna kill myself then everybody (like cho) whenever I see'm.

Let me get this straight, You absolutely hate the films, yet you've seen all three, and from your "whenever I see'm", multiple times?

I'm sorry, but if I hated the first movie of a series, I would have never wasted my time watching the sequels even once.

For example, I read Dune and didn't particularly care for it, so I never read the rest of the books in the series or re-read the first.


Besides that, what is the purpose of ragging on about how much you hate the movies? I mean, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but Who cares?. After all, a lot of people do like the movies. ( Or is it that which bothers you, the fact the these movies are widely popular? Which brings up the question: Why should you care?)

I'm not sure they are widely popular, perhaps this populatiry you speak of stems from the hate those who have seen them might have?

In regards to my seeing of the films, I saw LOTR's 1 and didn't see the others for a very long time, it was only when they were on TNT that I watched them, it was more of a joke to me than entertainment.

As for HP I saw that because my curiousity got the best of me, I had HBO and it was on there free so why not, I was bored.. I wasn't as bored watching them though. They do all suck terribly though, kill them!

i like them both, so im not exactly the target market for this poll :D
the books are better than the movies on both....

DarksidZz,

Lighten up. I get the feeling you would have a more favorable opinion of these stories if the dark/evil side would have been victorious in the end.

There's no comparison if you consider the originality of LOTR. The Harry Potter stuff is for kids and got many of them reading, which probably makes them better from that point of view.

i never thought of it that way before,

peace.

There's no comparison if you consider the originality of LOTR. The Harry Potter stuff is for kids and got many of them reading, which probably makes them better from that point of view.

Whereas LOTR can discourage intellectuals from reading.

It's easy to critisize others but what have you done that we can view to see how good or bad you are?

i was just searching for a childrens book to insult spurious in this thread, and i stumbled upon this and is disgusted me!. encouraging children to get plastic surgery for cosmetic reasons! oh my god this is an outrage,

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27973

now let me continue my quest to insult spurious.

peace.

spurious prefers to read this genre of book,
http://www.echotech.org/bookstore/images/Childrens%20Books.jpg

Genji:


You've GOT to be kidding?!

LoTR is perhaps the most boring and convoluted book I have ever read, and that's saying something, given that I've read the unabridged version of 'The Count of Montre Cristo', and several books in the 'Wheel of Time' series.

I can understand where some fans are coming from when they say what a 'fantastic' piece of literature LoTR is. Sure, it's full of detail. Sure, it's indepth. Sure, it contains numerous tangents and plot arcs.

But it's mind numbingly, teeth achingly, brain cell genocidingly boring. Pumping in more detail, tangents, plot arcs, and words, doesn't necessarily make your book better. It just makes me want to skip over the 500 pages of bullshit filler to get to the climax (which was actually rather anti-climatic).

Sadly, Rowling has taken the 'Tolkein' road ever since Book 4. Just pointless, boring, bullshit filler. Nobody cares who Bill, Tonks or Lupus is dating.Sorry Mountainhare but I LOVED all the LOTR books and all 3 films. Great, expansive rich story with great characters, special effects, score, everything. I loved it.

no frodo is totaly gay, him and sam are so pounding each other. that totaly gay look sam gives frodo when he is standing there you know he just sucked frodos cock after that scene was shot.


harry potter is blatently also gay. they are both super gay characters. cant you see that?


peace.
Now I get who you are. All I needed to know.

I assume this question refers to the movies.

I can't justify myself, but I innately hate Harry Potter and am sickened by it's success.

Have you all heard about that guy who drove by a line of people waiting to buy Harry Potter and he yells "SNAPE KILLS DUMBLEDORE!" rofl :) What a hero that guy is.

I used to think LOTR sucked too, not as much as HP, but still a huge disappointment. I have the fellowship of the ring on DVD and it is one of the movies I sometimes watch when I go to sleep. I started thinking it is a good movie lately, about the same time I started taking mood enhancers.

It's about hobbits eating mushrooms. I honestly can't find that very interesting.

Yet it is entertaining when little kiddies are drinking their pumpkin juice? :p

On another note, I understand why people don't like the LOTR books. I probably would hate them as an adult. I've read people saying, and believe, that LOTR laid the frame work for almost all of the modern fantasy genre. I think it is at its best as a first taste of big fantasy. Now a days the audience is different, since fantasy is popular and there are all sorts of ways to expose yourself to lots of it before you get to LoTR, unlike in the 1920s or whenever. That doesn't seem like too long of a time, maybe, but I think LoTR just got cliche and familiar.

Tolkien didn't copy anyone; everyone else copied Tolkien.

Yet it is entertaining when little kiddies are drinking their pumpkin juice? :p


There are not whole chapters on drinking pumpkin juice in Harry Potter books.

Now I get who you are. All I needed to know.

hey man i have nothing against gay people in general, just the actual sight of gay male sex kinda disgusts me, but i like you and i think gay people are just people like anyone else some are cool some are dicks.

im not saying anything about gay people, but if you want an honest opinion male gay sex kinda makes me feel sick, dont take it personal, i think your a cool guy,


peace.

Tolkien didn't copy anyone; everyone else copied Tolkien.

no he didnt 'copy' anybody directly, but he was heavily influenced by all kinds of mythology, folk lore and legends among many many civilisations,

but lhe did lay down the mainstream foundations for fantasy, but all of his creations were already in ancient folk lore and legends/storys. he just brought them all to life in an epic tome combined together in one great adventure,


tolkeins ideas stemmed heavily from religion and mythology, i believe he even based the elven tounge and written language on finnish if im not mistaken,


peace,

The books are both great. The LOTR movies are great. I liked the harry potter movies 3 onwards, but 1 and 2 were lame. I don't see how you people even can dislike them. Boring? I didn't know so many people here were tasteless...

The books are both great. The LOTR movies are great. I liked the harry potter movies 3 onwards, but 1 and 2 were lame. I don't see how you people even can dislike them. Boring? I didn't know so many people here were tasteless...
I'm with you Tyler. If someone can find things to bitch about in LOTR they'll always be unsatisfied, to be able to keep bitching.
I agree the Harry Potter #1 sucked. Now I wanna see Equus!!!!!

Now I wanna see Equus!!!!!

" He sees... he sees... My God hath seen. "

Weird, but interesting.