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Pez11
07-07-07, 09:51 AM
Mistake - meant to title this Live Earth.
Just curious at what most people's take on this is. Should be interesting.

madanthonywayne
07-07-07, 01:18 PM
$350 bucks to listen to Al Gore drone on...... I wouldn't go if he paid me $350.

Buffalo Roam
07-07-07, 01:49 PM
RPTFLMAO, at the Idea that the humans on the earth can control global warming, The Historical fact is that when there were far less humans on earth it was far warmer, and far colder than it is now, and in the history of the Earth the swings have been from almost totally Tropical to Ice Age, and back again, the retreating Glaciers in Switzerland are revealing mines, and remains of villages that were covered when the Glaciers advanced in the last cooling cycle.

It is all a grab for money, is shows the Oxymoron of a Ethical Liberal, they want use to live a life style that fail to follow themselves, they want us to drive smaller car's while they continue to drive SUV, and fly Private Jets, they want us to live in smaller houses, in crowded cities, and they move out into the country and live in houses that use 300% more energy than ant thing we live in, and not just one House they have 3-4-5-6, yes tell me why I should listen to a Rich, Oil OWNING, CARBON SPEWING, MINE OWNING, EARTH POLLUTING, ESTATE SPRAWLING, PRIVATE JET FLYING, OZONE KILLING, LIBERAL LIKE AL-GORE?

And don't give me that AL-GORE is buying carbon credits, he buys them from from his own company, the money goes from one pocket to the other in his pants, and can you prove that he really is doing any thing to offset his carbon foot print? can you show that he is actually reducing the amount of carbon in the atmosphere? the biggest producer of GHG is mother nature herself, and AL-GORE is going to change that? Send your money to him, and hope he does something other than put it in his pocket, or do as I have done buy some land and plant some trees, I was going to clean up the stream that ran through the property to, but the DNR said it was already above standards, and that for me to start to clean up the snags and dead fall, would cause more pollution than was there to start with, the report came back that the water would be safe for human consumption, can't argue with that.

sandy
07-07-07, 03:50 PM
It seems like a cute little idea but it's a hypocritical fraud. Star-leader Madonna is the worst violator. For her 2006 World Tour, she flew by private jet, transporting a team of up to 100 technicians and dancers around the globe. Waiting in the garage at home, she has a Mercedes Maybach, two Range Rovers, an Audi A8 and a Mini Cooper S.

More than 150 performers jetting around the world to appear in concerts from Tokyo to Hamburg is surely an exercise in hypocrisy on a grand scale.

The extravaganza will generate a huge fuel bill, acres of garbage, thousands of tons of carbon emissions, and a mileage total equal to the movement of an army.

The stars are flying an extraordinary 222,623.63 miles between them to get to the various concerts.
The total carbon footprint of the event will be at least 75,000 tons.

A big, hypicritical waste imo.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=466775&in_page_id=1879

fishtail
07-07-07, 04:11 PM
Why do we let brainless bitches like that get rich? oh right we buy their produce.

Buffalo Roam
07-07-07, 04:42 PM
A little History of the rise of life and the swing of temperatures, and the fact that the Atmosphere has never been stable, and the Sun is the driving force for temperature change on earth.

Toward Distant Suns

by T. A. Heppenheimer
http://www.nss.org/settlement/DistantSuns/distantsuns_chap02.html

It is a commonplace idea that Earth had to form at the right distance from the Sun, or else it would have been too hot or too cold for life. This is a much more complex matter than was realized even a few years ago, because the Sun has not always been at the same brightness that we see today. It has grown brighter over geologic time, emitting more energy, while Earth has stayed at the same average distance from it.

This brightening of the Sun is a very well-supported finding in astrophysics. It results from the buildup of helium in the Sun's core, produced by fusion of its hydrogen. The exact amount of this brightening is somewhat uncertain, but the Sun today is probably about 35 percent brighter than it was 4.5 billion years ago, when Earth formed. (Some investigators have found values as high as 50 percent.) This means that if Earth existed then as it does today, it would have been colder, since the Sun was dimmer—so much that the oceans would have frozen solid. The subsequent slow brightening of the Sun would not have melted these oceans, since an ice-covered Earth would reflect most of the sunlight back into space. On such a world, life as we know it could not arise.

Evidently Earth escaped this fate. But how? The answer is that Earth's primordial atmosphere was very different from what it is today. It functioned as a blanket that trapped heat, so that primitive Earth was warm enough to keep the oceans from freezing. This blanketing is known as the "greenhouse effect," because Earth's primitive atmosphere acted like the glass windows in a greenhouse, which allow sunlight to enter freely yet trap the resulting heat. Even today the greenhouse effect warms Earth's surface by some 60° F. Several billion years ago this added warming may have amounted to over 170° due to the presence of ammonia and methane, which produce a large greenhouse.

No life could survive in the lands of ice, but in the equatorial regions it made its stand. It could not now act to save itself, to alter its fate by growing and spreading, or by releasing oxygen. Still, the ocean and atmosphere were in equilibrium and there would be no reduction in the atmospheric CO, or water vapor to eliminate the slim margin of greenhouse effect that held back the glaciers. In the end, temperatures bottomed out just below 43° and slowly rose, degree by degree, as the billion years elapsed. It was not life that did this, or any other process of Earth. It was the Sun, slowly gaining its strength and brightness. As the aeons passed, the global mean temperature rose into the high 40s, then 50s. The danger of a world of ice was even more real than the early danger of a world of steam; but it too passed.


T. A. Heppenheimer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thomas A. Heppenheimer (born 1947) is a major space advocate and researcher in planetary science, aerospace engineering, and celestial mechanics. ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._A._Heppenheimer

Twin paradoxes of the space age : Article : Nature
T. A. Heppenheimer, an associate fellow of the American Institute of ... Sergei Korolev, the subject of James Harford's biography, carries the burden of the ...
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v392/n6672/full/392143a0.html

Sandoz
07-07-07, 05:01 PM
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/3568/

Buffalo Roam
07-07-07, 05:19 PM
Which climate change? and do we know that it is bad for the earth? or does it just inconvenience Humans? is AL-GORE human?

Fraggle Rocker
07-08-07, 09:43 PM
The production technology of these extravaganzas has improved tremendously, and the performers take them much more seriously. Compared to Live Earth, Live Aid was a bunch of garage bands in the high school auditorium. I taped all 17 hours, expecting to fast forward through it during dinner catching a few of my favorite bands. Instead I've been watching most of it, even bands I'm not terribly fond of like the Smashing Pumpkins. The ones I do love, like the Chilis and Kelly Clarkson, have been spellbinding. I've been skipping over the rappers and watching almost everything else. I like Melissa Etheridge but she should just shut up and sing. Shakira was disappointing, she just wiggled instead of singing. But I guess if you can wiggle like that you might as well do it.

I always thought Al Gore was an idiot... until a genuine Religious Redneck Retard beat him. Now he seems like a sage.

pjdude1219
07-08-07, 10:55 PM
gore supports this but the concert is not of his doing

sandy
07-09-07, 07:28 AM
The event was a bust. Big joke. Pathetic ratings. Huge waste of energy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=467114&in_page_id=1770

pjdude1219
07-09-07, 12:17 PM
an event like this cannot be judged on its rating it has to be judged on how it affects our views and actions toward are planet which will take a while to measure

wsionynw
07-09-07, 12:21 PM
I thought it went quite well, lots of good bands at least (and some crap bands of course).

Genji
07-09-07, 12:48 PM
If it pisses off the whiney, namby pamby conthervatives then let the show go on! And On!!!!!

Buffalo Roam
07-09-07, 03:23 PM
If it pisses off the whiney, namby pamby conthervatives then let the show go on! And On!!!!!


And we hear from the peanut gallery.

Genji
07-09-07, 03:24 PM
And we hear from the peanut gallery.Greetings from the flaming Left Mr Buffalo!:)

sandy
07-09-07, 03:31 PM
It didn't p!ss us off. It just bored most of mankind into oblivion. :rolleyes:

Genji
07-09-07, 03:33 PM
It didn't p!ss us off. It just bored most of mankind into oblivion. :rolleyes:It pisses you off!:) :) Old people and racists wouldn't dig it. As a racist you wouldn't fit in. Just like I wouldn't fit in at a Klan rally.