How far do you think the human race is from colonizing another planet and how far are we do all of you think, from finding other life and achieving such things as light speed and creating wormholes.

First off I think you have to define what you mean by colonization. If you refer to an outpost used for study of the planet a colony or if you refer to a self sufficent group of people who are native to the planet. I say native, as in a generation that is born there. Obviously how you define it has a large bearing on the timeline.

I mean people living on that planet just like the way we live here (on earth) now. I dont know what the reason would be for their colonization on another planet, maybe we will end up destroying earth with a nuclear war or just polluting it to the point where it is not safe to live on this planet anymore, the way we are treating this planet, we are on course for that scenario to play out inevitably. . The question is not that will it happen, but when it will happen?

Originally posted by mossfan125
How far do you think the human race is from colonizing another planet and how far are we do all of you think, from finding other life and achieving such things as light speed and creating wormholes.


How far colonizing? 1260 years
How far finding life? 50 years
Light speed? We now have light speed (check your flash light)
Creating wormholes in space lab? 65 years
Creating usable wormholes?1220 years

Going back to industrial age? 35 years (after WW III)

What Im wondering is... how did you come to these conclusions.

We now have light speed (check your flashlight)

LOL I guess if you arent a smartass your a dumbass. what I meant was when are humans going to travel at light speed. LMK

I think kmguru was joking.

take it easy dude.

So was I. I am not trying to be wierd I just think it's very cool and interesting to see what others have to say. Dont tell me to take it easy, Ill do whatever I want.

oh yeah??

:D

Actually I think that we could colonize mars in less than 1000+ years. Say- 25-30 years from now we could build an outpost, living population- 80-180 years

the really important factor is - how much we will need it.
if some rare and valuable material is discovered there- 80 years, if nothing of grat importance ~180y

Yeah, you're probably right, i mean we have already got people living in space. It seems to me that that would harder to do than actually build a space home on solid planet.

there are 2 main problems here

- oxigen
- food

and there are 2 main benefits

- gravity
- raw materials

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oxigen- we can grow plants
food - we can grow plants

so where's the problem?

initial startup!

the main problem is to send the startup resources needed for building the base and actually the process of building the main habitat . When it's done you could continue from it.

as always I provide a possible solution

we build 2 ships

one shoots the building materials to the location (Mars maybe)
the second is the crew ship

the crew ship stays at a static orbit above Mars.
there are 2 shifts of builders

while one is working on the surface the other stays in the crew ship in orbit.

thus a 24/7 progression

traffic between orbit and surface->


orbit - ground = we could use magnetic accelerators and simply shoot the ship to the surface- braking- parachutes


from ground to orbit - at the start we could use rocket engines (not rockets!)- Hydrogen fuel based.

the first thing to do on Marst would be to setup a power plant- building and living needs a lot of energy

I suggest to use nuclear reactor- the same with slight modifications of course as is used on nuclear submarines.

So was I. I am not trying to be wierd I just think it's very cool and interesting to see what others have to say. Dont tell me to take it easy, Ill do whatever I want.

Oh...
Sorry.
My lack of sense of humor and narrow English vocabulary makes me think everytime someone calles somebody a dumbass, he means to insult him... :rolleyes:

:o

When do you think we will figure out Superstring Thoery?

Reason I ask, I think that will be the first step towards being able to create wormwholes, and harnesing light speed.

before we go away through wormholes, we need to know where to go;)

but I agree- a stargate transporter technology would be what we need

any ideas?

Well, as for colonizing a planet like Mars, we still have some hurdles to cross first. NASA is still working on those reusable life support systems (The plants in the little boxes) that will provide food for the crew, currently without this type of a system a trip to Mars is infeasable. But once they complete this system, I'd say we'd have the First Mars Landing somewhere between 5-10 years after and then some type of Martian Station anywhere from 15-30 years after. Martian Colonies are another story...

My guess would be 75 years or so from now before space colonization and settlement gets under way. what is really hold it back is more finacial and political problems not technological ones however we should ahve working fusion by 2050 or there abouts and once we have that we ahve reason to return to the moon for He3 mining for cleaner fusion. Once that is inplace the other things like mars colonies and space stations and asteroid mining will follow. as for wormholes who knows.

Light speed
Humans won't travel faster than the speed of light, that was why the concept of wormholes was first arrived at.

If it was possible for an object to travel faster than the speed of light according to Einsteins theorum it would no longer exist, according to relativity the object would reverse and become an "Anti", in other words it would exist as preportion of the object's makeup before it travels.

This pretty much is explained with string theory.

The way humans will find (I am very sure of it) is the use of wormholes and spacial folds. Afterall while travel a great distance at great speed when you only have to have a small amount of momentum and a fold.

String theory

First point, an old saying "How long is a piece of string?" the first given answer is it can be any length since nobody has stated a length, although another answer is from the smartascii's that use relativity to tell you that "A piece of string is as long as it is from middle to end by two."

That could represent a singular spacial fold, in fact with the use of string theory and relativity there is a lot of theory in explainations of how matter exists within multiworlds states. Since space has no dimension as a void all other dimensions can exist within it.

Multiworlds

Just a quick bit here on multiworlds, since a spacial fold would make a small change in the universe. At first you would exist in a universe and you'd travel forwards with a small amount of momentum to travel onto a spacial region that has been folded.

At that instance of time you would exist between two worlds or postions, the question here is when the space is folded back which side with your larger amount of quanta be upon?

Since your atomic state is entangled if the fold takes with it a larger amount of quanta from you the rest of you will follow, otherwise you'd stay put.

There are of course theoretical disasters where you might find yourself equally balanced between the two points (which is most unlikely) and you'd get torn between the two.

All these folds in the universe though, would ensure that everything that exists within it other than the void of space exists multidimensionally.

Colonization
As a human race I don't think we would colonise any planetary body until we've stabled ourselves on this planet.
If you want to see worlds being colonised, then somehow the world would have to be convined to try peace for a while.

The main point here is that it's very unlikely, too many countries will military rule are going to keep civilization from actually becoming civilised.
If we get to the point where the world can exist without war, famine or poverty (which is pretty unlikely) then I'm sure people would put together what was/is needed to do the task.

After of course they have better methods to transfer things from point to point.

The main insentive though for people to colonise will be resources/minerals. If life was found on another planet then the oil companies would be interested in exploring for OIL.
(Oil is a fossil fuel like coal for those that don't know, which means life had to exist for oil to exist.)

Perhaps NASA should fake life somewhere.