View Full Version : Life on Mars? Coming controversy


extrasense
11-21-05, 09:54 PM
As we have not enough grif with evolution and intelligent design,
life on Mars is coming:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mars.life.proof/

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Pennarin
11-22-05, 01:35 AM
Please, if you are to link to a website, show us a scientific community or science news website that has those images, and the explanation of what the colors on them mean.

If the images present in the website you link to have not been released as part of studies, conferences, or news releases, then it cannot be validated. Short of a NASA or JPL employe illegaly uploading his organization's yet unreleased photos on his personal website, then there's not much to look at.

The copyright section of the site is so very limited as making the whole thing dubious, the author not even listing his own name. Plus, unless the images belong to him, they should be copyrighted and their source listed by the author.

extrasense
11-22-05, 12:36 PM
The most of the "colored" images on the site are stereo images, to be viewed using 3D glasses.
Why don't you e-mail the author, if you have questions?

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orcot
11-23-05, 03:27 AM
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mars.life.proof/Discovering-Martian-Stone-Age-with-FIGS_files/image016.jpg

This "creature". Your showing if real would be to large to stay undetected and it would be impossible (not nearly impossible). That's it the only lifeform of it's size.
It would have no vegetation to eat. And such a large creature couldn't be sustaind by sun light like plants do.
It would also be subjected to radiation and massive temprature differences. That are lickly to kill any creature.

Charles Darwin's On the origin of species by means of natural selection,
is not fully accepted yet in the American society after 150 years,
with the intelligent design speculations alive and well.
How long will it take for the life on Mars to be accepted as the reality???

Basicly I wouldn't trust anything this guy is saying. I have nothing against initligent design for the average folk. But basicley it's yust a nice story that has no scientific value and solves all quistions with a devine answer wich make people stop wondering abouth them.

altough offcourse that there are still some indications that ther is/was life on mars. It's wet past and the traces of methane in the atmosphere are somewhat promising

extrasense
11-23-05, 05:41 AM
That's it the only lifeform of it's size.
I am sure there are others. Did you read the article about Martian Stone Age on that site?

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Hercules Rockefeller
11-23-05, 03:16 PM
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mars.life.proof/

Sorry :(

Having glanced at that website, my judgement is that almost every sentence of that website is, at best, inaccurate or, at worst, completely wrong. There is no legitimate science to be found anywhere within it. It is nothing more than conjecture and speculation based largely on erroneous presumptions. There isn't even conclusive evidence for single celled Martian life let alone large multicellular Martian life. Puh-leeese... :rolleyes: <P>

Communist Hamster
11-23-05, 03:27 PM
Wow, rocks! Never seen them on Mars before.

extrasense
11-23-05, 04:13 PM
Having glanced at that website...There is no legitimate science to be found anywhere within it.
'legitimate?' Some articles were published in the Marsbugs magazine

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Hercules Rockefeller
11-23-05, 09:52 PM
Some articles were published in the Marsbugs magazine

Which articles?<P>

extrasense
11-24-05, 05:59 AM
Which articles? REFERENCES:
...
3. Zeltsman, A. (2005) Visual Detection of life on Mars? Marsbugs, 12(20):2-3

4. Zeltsman, A. (2005) Searching For the biological objects on Mars. Marsbugs, 18(26):10-11
...

Look at the REFERENCES sections, to find them out

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orcot
11-24-05, 09:10 AM
I'm one of those people that do believe(hope) in other life in this solar system like mars europa and even Titan.
But you I can't take the ID of a martian stone age seriously unless the do actually mean stone and nothing but stone age.

maybe you will like this link
http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ploct97.htm

it isn't as promising like intilligent life form. But it get's a lot closer to reality.

+ keep in mind that the only probe ever to return from a other celestial body
(Surveyor 3) still containend living bacteria even afther 31 months in vacuum. It's not unlickley that any lander on the past deciania's dropped some of these extremophiles on the martian surface.

Neildo
11-27-05, 09:38 PM
This "creature". Your showing if real would be to large to stay undetected and it would be impossible (not nearly impossible). That's it the only lifeform of it's size.
It would have no vegetation to eat. And such a large creature couldn't be sustaind by sun light like plants do.
It would also be subjected to radiation and massive temprature differences. That are lickly to kill any creature.

Vegetation? Who says it needs vegetation? That monster is clearly a rock monster that eats crystals, sand, and bits and pieces of rock. :p

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btimsah
11-27-05, 10:02 PM
lol @ the rock monster. :D It is rather funny, but inconclusive. I think what that is, is a dark rock, perhaps with something in the distance giving it a head?? Not sure but I will give the rest of the site a look over. ;)

btimsah
11-27-05, 10:06 PM
I did a fuzzy zoom and I am perplexed, but mainly because it's just so far away and strange looking.

http://www.nasafiles.com/wp-content/ScreenHunter_001.jpg

It kinda looks like a cute bull-ghost.. :)

btimsah
11-27-05, 10:10 PM
Here I am again, I did find this one: http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2R134091994EFF2300P1310R0M1.JPG.html

Which is just a different view I believe.. :m:

extrasense
11-27-05, 10:55 PM
Here I am again, I did find this one: http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2R134091994EFF2300P1310R0M1.JPG.htmlWhich is just a different view I believe.. :m:

So, there is some truth out there after all!

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Novacane
11-27-05, 11:22 PM
I did a fuzzy zoom and I am perplexed, but mainly because it's just so far away and strange looking.

http://www.nasafiles.com/wp-content/ScreenHunter_001.jpg

It kinda looks like a cute bull-ghost.. :)

Nah.......It looks like an ancient martian booze bottle (maybe ceramic based). and throughout millions of years of time & superharsh weather, it somehow survived on Mars. A good martian name for it would be; 'Olympus Licker'. :D

Communist Hamster
11-28-05, 02:05 AM
Looks like a rock to me.

extrasense
11-28-05, 05:55 AM
So what, any communist looks like a pig to me :-)

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c20H25N3o
11-28-05, 06:04 AM
nice rock

Communist Hamster
11-29-05, 02:23 AM
So what, any communist looks like a pig to me

You sir, have your political metaphors mixed up. It's 'Evil Capitalist pig' not 'you commie pig'.

RickyH
12-01-05, 11:05 PM
Here I am again, I did find this one: http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2R134091994EFF2300P1310R0M1.JPG.html

Which is just a different view I believe.. :m:

If this picture isn't a high resolution pic and thats a creature, it would most likely be moving making it a blur. More of a blur then it currently is, Further more
somthing of that nature would have been found ages ago. There would also be more creatures of its kind, after all you can't have one thingto live on its own with nothing to eat or drink. Also seeing as it is much farther from the sun then we are mars would receive little energy from the sun making it very hard for anything to even begin to grow. Even so it would take a much longer time for life to begin on mars then earth. So if there if this even a creature it couldn't have been born on mars, it would have to have got there by some means of transportation. Which this "thing" looks like it is not capible of. It very well could be a rock with bad shadowing because of a low res. pic

RickyH
12-01-05, 11:27 PM
[QUOTE=orcot]http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mars.life.proof/Discovering-Martian-Stone-Age-with-FIGS_files/image016.jpg


If this picture isn't a high resolution pic and thats a creature, it would most likely be moving making it a blur. More of a blur then it currently is, Further more
somthing of that nature would have been found ages ago. There would also be more creatures of its kind, after all you can't have one thingto live on its own with nothing to eat or drink. Also seeing as it is much farther from the sun then we are mars would receive little energy from the sun making it very hard for anything to even begin to grow. Even so it would take a much longer time for life to begin on mars then earth. So if there if this even a creature it couldn't have been born on mars, it would have to have got there by some means of transportation. Which this "thing" looks like it is not capible of. It very well could be a rock with bad shadowing because of a low res. pic

URI
12-01-05, 11:40 PM
>> it would most likely be moving making it a blur.

LOL, it stayed stationary for a very long time, according to reports.

RickyH
12-02-05, 12:23 AM
how would they no it stayed stationary, what proof of that do they have? How did it get there? If it is a creature and it is staionary how was it preserved?

eburacum45
12-02-05, 01:48 AM
It looks like a gorilla in a dinner jacket.
That is an excellent photo.

No proof of anything,of course, but an excellent photo.

Communist Hamster
12-02-05, 01:54 AM
I still think it looks like a rock.

eburacum45
12-02-05, 01:58 AM
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2218/gorilla6bq.jpg

ook! ook!

Communist Hamster
12-02-05, 02:45 AM
So now you're claiming that the dominant lifeform on Mars is a tuxedo-wearing space gorilla?

moementum7
12-02-05, 07:34 PM
Wow, I'm sorry, I'm all for the VERY strong belief in other life, but those pics suck.
I mean come on,...wow.

Ophiolite
12-02-05, 08:58 PM
Moderators, please move to pseudo-science.
Extra-sense, please move to Mars.

Communist Hamster
12-03-05, 04:21 AM
I second that motion.

Avatar
12-03-05, 06:08 AM
Pseudoscience?! There's enough crap there already! Move it to the Religion section

whitewolf
12-03-05, 08:58 AM
Pseudoscience?! There's enough crap there already! Move it to the Religion section
LOL :D

The critter on the pic looks like a large monkey to me. Now, how would monkeys get to Mars before humans? THAT is the question that should be on everyone's mind right now. ;)

RickyH
12-03-05, 09:58 AM
lol different airs, on mars could cause different evolution then earth's white wolf

Communist Hamster
12-03-05, 11:00 AM
lol different airs, on mars could cause different evolution then earth's white wolf

Yes, but not giant tuxedo-wearing space gorillas

Avatar
12-03-05, 11:04 AM
Space gorillas remind me of Flash Gordon

extrasense
12-03-05, 02:54 PM
LOL :D

The critter on the pic looks like a large monkey to me. Now, how would monkeys get to Mars before humans? THAT is the question that should be on everyone's mind right now. ;)

Well, this is true!
They might tell us sometime

ES

extrasense
12-03-05, 02:58 PM
Yes, but not giant tuxedo-wearing space gorillas
Considering hamster's total Communist ignorance,
I am clarifying that this creature is of about normal human hight and size.

And its head is more like a hamster, than gorilla.

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Avatar
12-03-05, 03:02 PM
From where did you get the scale?
I do some amateur photography myself and it's dead easy to manipulate with it.

Besides, it's a rock.

RickyH
12-03-05, 08:04 PM
lol yes thank you avatar, and yea please move this to psuedo-science. Under Rock that looks like a monkey on mars

extrasense
12-03-05, 09:45 PM
From where did you get the scale?.

Read the article Discovering Martian Stone Age (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mars.life.proof/Discovering-Martian-Stone-Age-with-FIGS.htm)

It was measured there

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shekhar
12-11-05, 11:14 PM
Sorry, i think the Life on Mars is not possible, till next 40-50 years......because till no one HUMAN is gone on the surface of the Mars and thus......we cant comment on this at this step.........oones HUMAN reaches on the Mars....then we can think on it......but can one tell me what is the substance or matter on the Mars....
..........shekhar

Communist Hamster
12-12-05, 10:51 AM
Considering hamster's total Communist ignorance

MY total ignorance? You're the one making claims about life on mars with only a blurry picture as evidence.

Azzy42
12-12-05, 02:48 PM
This probably proves that Big Foot is/was just a cool looking rock.
If a mars rock can look like a large ape then why cant that happen on earth.
(Place quality camera ad here)
Maybe throw in crazy slogan like " Samsung - Rocks are not gorillas - Feel the quality"

extrasense
12-19-05, 02:26 PM
If a mars rock can look like a large ape then why cant that happen on earth. Very good question, that is!
Or rock looking like Michaelangelo's David?

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