We're a bunch of random particles that keep following this pattern and have this repeating observable behavior known as existence and everything.

Our bodies/minds/conscience:
Also random particles, following this evolved pattern that has lead us to survive and recreate each other so that we may all follow this pattern of survival. Control center happens to be in the brain.

What happens when an object blocks light? A shadow is seen. The shadow is rendered in the 3-dimensional world that we see, however the shadow itself is 2 dimensional. Either many people including myself have been perceiving something that isnt there, or souls (spirits, intent, chi, whatever) exist.

IF so, where/what is the soul/spirit/intent/chi/whatever?
Could it be that the soul/spirit/intent/chi/whatever exists rendered as conscience in our one and only truly observable dimension?

Further into this idea:
A point is a singular existence. It exists once. Once it has existed, it is done existing and many more points will eventually exist. [1D]

A line is a two dimensional existence. It exists along a plane, and we view it laying on this plane (often as a shadow). It is the rendering of our physical selves (see 3D) as we exist in the 2D plain. [2D]

A cube is a 3 dimensional existence. It is assumed to be in the same dimension we are, having depth, movement, whatever. Since we human beings exist in this dimension, it is most natural for us to consciously affect things in the third dimension as well. [3D]

A mind is a 4 dimensional existence. It is rendered in the 3D dimension as conscious, or rules of behavior. (i.e. gravity, entropy, inertia, whatever).

-- since I haven't visited the 4th dimension (as that would be impossible) .. (I think,) I don't know the exact attributes and everything of a mind in the 4D. Once I can ascertain that somehow, it will then be possible to determine things in dimensions higher than that of the 4D, and therefore it will be possible to determine more things about the 4D.

Thoughts, please.

Sorry, forgot to label the last one as [4D].. i'm sure whoever is bothering to read this got that.

Any place there is a similarity of any kind between two different situations, our mind is tempted to consider that any number of other attributes of one of the situations could be similar to attributes of the other.

But doing this could provide us with an infinite number of mutually exclusive belief sets. What sets yours apart from these? Why are we like particles?

We're a bunch of random particles that keep following this pattern and have this repeating observable behavior known as existence and everything.

Our bodies/minds/conscience:
Also random particles, following this evolved pattern that has lead us to survive and recreate each other so that we may all follow this pattern of survival. Control center happens to be in the brain.

What happens when an object blocks light? A shadow is seen. The shadow is rendered in the 3-dimensional world that we see, however the shadow itself is 2 dimensional. Either many people including myself have been perceiving something that isnt there, or souls (spirits, intent, chi, whatever) exist.

IF so, where/what is the soul/spirit/intent/chi/whatever?
Could it be that the soul/spirit/intent/chi/whatever exists rendered as conscience in our one and only truly observable dimension?

Further into this idea:
A point is a singular existence. It exists once. Once it has existed, it is done existing and many more points will eventually exist. [1D]

A line is a two dimensional existence. It exists along a plane, and we view it laying on this plane (often as a shadow). It is the rendering of our physical selves (see 3D) as we exist in the 2D plain. [2D]

A cube is a 3 dimensional existence. It is assumed to be in the same dimension we are, having depth, movement, whatever. Since we human beings exist in this dimension, it is most natural for us to consciously affect things in the third dimension as well. [3D]

A mind is a 4 dimensional existence. It is rendered in the 3D dimension as conscious, or rules of behavior. (i.e. gravity, entropy, inertia, whatever).

-- since I haven't visited the 4th dimension (as that would be impossible) .. (I think,) I don't know the exact attributes and everything of a mind in the 4D. Once I can ascertain that somehow, it will then be possible to determine things in dimensions higher than that of the 4D, and therefore it will be possible to determine more things about the 4D.

Thoughts, please.We are in the third dimension, more dimensions means more possibilities and higher risk of getting lost, a point is the beginning and the end simultaniously [0D], while a line must be travelled [1D], where in the 2D frame we must find the 1D line to guide us, while in 3D we must find the 2D map to guide us.

We cannot have a 2D map in the 2D frame (we couldn't overlook it). We cannot have the 1D line in the 0D point (since there is not room for any).

As such 4D would require a 3D map.

4D is all around us of course, just as the 2D surface is all around the 3D, and the 1D and 0D lines and dots are all over the 2D. We just don't realise it cause we can't see 'off the surface', or is it simply that 4D is time? That would probably cover it, but then again, I guess you would like something to change, so what about the 5D?

If there is a 0D, then there must be a 1D or 2D to hold it, and if there is a 2D then there must be a 3D to hold it. So I guess the dimensions go further and further until it becomes almost ridiculous. Certainly we are then more to the spot than can be easily imaginable if we think of the many, many possibilities that are actually represented in the universe. We are pretty close to the dot aren't we? Just two dimensions away!

So smile and be happy / - and we thought it was the right way to look upon things, to be over them, while we get more and more lost that way.

I stopped reading when you contradicted yourself. I got this far:

We're a bunch of random particles that keep following this pattern...

yes I think a definition and evidencial support for the word random is needed here..
What is "random" and can it be proved to be so....

I would think by definition randomness is an absolute notion, but I am not sure.

I stopped reading when you contradicted yourself. I got this far:

Maybe if you continued reading you'd get something out of it. It's too bad you decided not to.

Random is... 'caused by pure chance'. Pattern is 'seen to repeat by human categorization'.. at least by my book. hope that clears things up.

I guess you would like something to change, so what about the 5D?

My friend argues that the 5D might be the mind of god.

I'd argue that you and your friend should cut down on smokin' da shit, considerably.

Redarmy is right :p

Also: We don't "live in the third dimension", we live in all four dimensions, height, width, debth and time. "Dimension" ≠ "Plane of existence"!

A cube is a 3 dimensional existence. It is assumed to be in the same dimension we are, having depth, movement, whatever. Since we human beings exist in this dimension, it is most natural for us to consciously affect things in the third dimension as well. [3D]

A mind is a 4 dimensional existence. It is rendered in the 3D dimension as conscious, or rules of behavior. (i.e. gravity, entropy, inertia, whatever).

-- since I haven't visited the 4th dimension (as that would be impossible) .. (I think,) I don't know the exact attributes and everything of a mind in the 4D. Once I can ascertain that somehow, it will then be possible to determine things in dimensions higher than that of the 4D, and therefore it will be possible to determine more things about the 4D.

Thoughts, please.
in 3 dimensional existance, there is either
1) No time or,
2) Only 2 spatial dimensions.

as such, in 3D you would have no movement if there was no time. or you would have only 2 dimensional movement if there was time. time is the 4th dimension.

the brain can exist in 3D, but it cannot be alive and conscious in 3d. it must have the dimension of time to allow movement of signals through the brain, so i guess you are at least right in your conclusion that the mind exists only in 4D and up. but in the 3d, the brain holds no consciousness because there is no change, no movement.

but you are wrong in saying you haven't visited the 4th dimension. it would be impossible not to. the 4th dimension is what makes our existence possible; it is what makes any minute change possible--the 4th dimension is time and time is change; movement. without the 4th dimension the universe would be completely still and without any change whatsoever.

I had the numbers wrong. Sorry. Just assume that a higher number is relatively higher and a lower is relatively lower, and it makes sense.