Received this (as did You Killed Jesus, I'm sure) as a forward, it's large but bear with...

not to bash americans geographical knowledge, but....
My teach travelled to northern U.S. and tried to buy something from a store, with something that required he say where he lived.
"I live in Canada"
"What state is that in sir?"
"...Its a country, y'klnow, Canada?"
"What state is that in?"
"... Its a country, the big one bordering the whole northern U.S. border?"
"... What state is that near?"
:D :p :cool:

At the moment, I am stuck in the American public school system. Everyone is trying to get the best grades through cheating so they can get a job that pays alot so they can work thier entire life. How incinclusive is that? Its so damn pointless. I stopped cheating and I make terrible grades now, but I have learned more than most of the people in my classes and I teach other people the material sometimes. I am really pissed right now.

Its metal time.

Everyone is trying to get the best grades through cheating That's an old excuse and not a very good one. How do you cheat if you don't know what's on the test? Obviosuly you can't copy off someone else because 'everyone' is cheating. Plus, if someone else is able to learn it, then there is no reason that you can't.

You have to learn to teach yourself the material from the book. Once you get to college they are just going to tell you what chapters to know and that's it. Once in awhile you get a teacher who will actually teach, but usually it's up to you.

On of the things that employers look for are people who can teach themselves as they need too. You need the ability to go and pickup a book that is not neccessarily in your field and be able to quickly learn and apply that knowledge.

Your grades may suck now... but that's because you are actually learning how to learn. You'll be ahead of the game when you get into college (assuming your grades aren't TOO bad).

Wow, It's been too long since I had a class that taught geography. . . I mean I knew about most of that stuff, right, but like I had no idea there was a movie studio in Australia. . . but then I guess there would have to be, because of those Mad Max movies I like.

Thats pretty funny Neb:)

they did a survey a few years back and when asked

'where is the uk?'

49% replyed

"its near iran"

followed by the question

'where is Britain?'

99% replyed correctly......aparently to the americans the uk and britain are two totaly different places?hmmmm :p :D

I remember talking in (blush) yahoo...with americans who honestly thought canadians lived in igloos.

DOes anyone watch "This Hour Has 22 Minutes?" They have a wonderful segment called "talking to americans"...I remember seeing one where they got all these americans into thinking that Canada was switching to the 24-hour clock from the previous 30-hour clock...silly people.

Not that I'm saying Americans are dumb. America is, but the people aren't....;)

I do reasonably well, I don't think I've cheated in high school yet. I can't say I enjoy the whole work until you retire, move to florida and die bit of life, there does happen to be a bit more of it than that to me.

I've definitly met some americans that knew less about geography than was on that map. but i'm curious. with all this US bashing going on, I wonder if the average person in the UK or anywhere else knows much more?

Pretty funny I must admit.

From the studies I have seen, the world as a whole is pretty terrible at geography. Even so, you would expect the US to at least be near the top but sadly it is usually near the bottom. I took an online test and was surprised I couldn't identify several countries, some even in nearby central america. I still scored much better than an average person does which amazes me since its been 10 years since I had a geography class. It boggles the mind that someone wouldn't know where canada or australia is....

It's simple. Most of them are more interested in getting drink, laid, and/or stoned.

I know what you mean gifted. But you would think even someone perpetually stoned would pick up on the basics just by watching tv or whatever.

I knew a girl from the US who didn't know if canada was north or south. she knew it was close but not exactly where.

I also knew a guy from the west coast who could not correctly ID about half of the states in the US.

sad really, someone should buy them a map.:p

I'm pretty good at geography only because i'm a big map freak. I like to collect them.

Originally posted by Nebula
I remember talking in (blush) yahoo...with americans who honestly thought canadians lived in igloos.

DOes anyone watch "This Hour Has 22 Minutes?" They have a wonderful segment called "talking to americans"...I remember seeing one where they got all these americans into thinking that Canada was switching to the 24-hour clock from the previous 30-hour clock...silly people.

Not that I'm saying Americans are dumb. America is, but the people aren't....;)

yes i love these segments!!!!! on it they also told Bush Jr. when he was elected that Prime Minister Poutine From Canada Congradulates you. and he replyed "Oh thats good, thank you"
:D, then there was the one about saving the parlament ICE building... oh mannnn


have you ever watchs the Jay Leno Segments as well? and i quote "What 2 countrys borded with American?" "Mexico and Hawwii???"
crazy stuff....

i had a VERY shitty education in high school cuase I was at a school in the BOONIES, but what it comes down to, i know most than most americans, AND IM A IDIOT (ad you can see by my spelling even tho i got a 89% average in my English classes) hehe


honestly i dont blame american for stupidy.... with all the drugs... inbreeding... voilence..... and so on...... one can only imagin where itll go from here. right now american is the MOST powerfull country in the world, but in the long run, i predict that their dermocary will fail.... canada, mexico and yes even britain will slowly take over america thur non voilent means....

its a matter of time folks, but hey its only a prediction



look i dont like trashing americans.... but we all know how its gonna end up... :(

David Horsey (http://www.pulitzer.org/year/1999/editorial-cartooning/bio/)

Anyway, I'm looking around and having no success at finding an online copy of a David Horsey cartoon (mentioned in the article linked above) called "The World According to Ronald Reagan", which this map resembles.

If anyone has a spare copy of it, post it; it's a laugher. I'll see if I can get an image scanned; I think I know where to find a copy.

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

What is geography then.... in some countries it's pretty much defined as "the ability to write the correct countryname inbetween de borderlines on the map". I think this subject could use some expension in almost any country. We need to teach our children about the location of resources, regional problems and infrastructure so they can put the news into perspective. To a further extent the location of any place or state is irrelevant.

What is geography then.... in some countries it's pretty much defined as "the ability to write the correct countryname inbetween de borderlines on the map". I think this subject could use some expension in almost any country. We need to teach our children about the location of resources, regional problems and infrastructure so they can put the news into perspective. To a further extent the location of any place or state is irrelevant

yes yes, i agree than learning more than just where on the map things are is a good thing. but knowing where they are on the map is a good idea too.

A Canadian,

About your insults concerning America:

> honestly i dont blame american for stupidy.... with all the
> drugs...

There isn't so much drugs, it's just so expensive over there that people are willing to go further....

> inbreeding...

Local problems :) The country as a whole has a very diversed genepool. As do you btw.

> voilence..... and so on......

The voilence is great indeed. And this my friend, is a culture thing.

> one can only imagin where itll go from here. right now american
> is the MOST powerfull country in the world, but in the long run, i
> predict that their dermocary will fail.... canada, mexico and yes

I do not believe their democracy will fail in a way that will lead to revolution. It's already failing in representing it's people, but people seem to patriotic to change that.

Their economy however is failing. Their trade balance sucks horse radishes. Every ascending empire has either exported or expanded borders. Foreign investors are just buying the rubble that is left after their products have taken over the market. Many consumers have fallen into the deathtrap of consumative morgageing. The country will be in the same state as Japan is if the housingmarketindex drops with 9 or 20% (opinions vary). And I AM talking about personal bankrupcies and a devastated banking sector.

> even britain will slowly take over america thur non voilent
> means....

China will take over (they are extremely productive when given modern tools and are still extremely cheap). Most of Russia will grow to be economically healthy. Mexico and Canada will feel negative effects (sorry, especially the latter) but the farming sector will boom. It's unclear what effect South America will experience. Africa will remain poor for the coming 50 years at least and Europe is expected to lose some ground when it comes to products and gain some ground when it comes to services.

Place2b: Metals. I am not sure about steel because the world production still seems to be growing faster then demand... but copper is my personal favourite. The electricity requirements of China will grow greatly, if you find a way to profit from that, use it!

> its a matter of time folks, but hey its only a prediction

When predicting change, all one needs is time.

You are all simply jealous.

Canada is a great place to go fishing, but other than that it serves no purpose.

In the UK they talk funny and drive on the wrong side of the road.

The rest of the countries on this planet just plain suck and that's why Americans don't give a crap about their location.

P.S. Don't worry, we'll continue to protect you.

Slacker47,

At the moment, I am stuck in the American public school system. Everyone is trying to get the best grades through cheating so they can get a job that pays alot so they can work thier entire life. How incinclusive is that? Its so damn pointless. I stopped cheating and I make terrible grades now, but I have learned more than most of the people in my classes and I teach other people the material sometimes. I am really pissed right now.
Hey...! We are really similar in fact....:bugeye::eek:
Thehas been happening for me for some 6 years...

Maybe we should start a new thread about the pointlessness of our present capitalist and consumeirism system...:eek:

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Slacker47,


Maybe we should start a new thread about the pointlessness of our present capitalist and consumeirism system...:eek:

If it weren't for capitalism you would not have an affordable computer or the internet to express your mush-brained ideas.

Posted by Nebula: DOes anyone watch "This Hour Has 22 Minutes?" They have a wonderful segment called "talking to americans"...I remember seeing one where they got all these americans into thinking that Canada was switching to the 24-hour clock from the previous 30-hour clock...silly people.
Heeehehehe...:D

Posted by Visitor: You are all simply jealous.
...:eek:
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Haaaaahahahahahaha:D:D
LOL

Now seriously... I'm pretty sure anyone is jealous of the US. Now with Bush there you will probably get f*****... unfortunatly, cause it is not the American's fault, but the dictatoriorship of the history of America... :( If you think about it, all people are slaves of the system. People work day and night throughout all their lifes and for what? Nothing at all. There are almost more people in prison then people free and you call America the "land of freedom" or whatever. No, it is not. This freedom is a delusion. It is just the way the government control people. The educational system simply brainwash people to become like pieces of a machinery. Have you ever watched "Metropolis"? No... anyone is jealous... and theer are probably some that feel pity...

Canada is a great place to go fishing, but other than that it serves no purpose.
You say that about the best country to live in the world? Even our game industry is getting pretty big cause we are so much more creative then Americans... The quality of life here is really excellent. Maybe that's why so many Americans move in...:rolleyes:

In the UK they talk funny and drive on the wrong side of the road.
Or maybe it is YOU that talk funny... for them, it is...:bugeye:
And who said tha there IS a RIGHT side of the road to drive???

The rest of the countries on this planet just plain suck and that's why Americans don't give a crap about their location.
Maybe that's why some don't care at all about US and others hate...:rolleyes:

P.S. Don't worry, we'll continue to protect you.
If depends on you, we will probably become instinct or will be surrounded by waste (nuclear or industrial...).:bugeye:

If it weren't for capitalism you would not have an affordable computer or the internet to express your mush-brained ideas.
And no polution... violence... fear... noise... confusion... ignorance... greed... selfishness... etc...

I sur prefer goin' fishin' eh?:D

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Heeehehehe...:D


...:eek:
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Haaaaahahahahahaha:D:D
LOL

Now seriously... I'm pretty sure anyone is jealous of the US. Now with Bush there you will probably get f*****... unfortunatly, cause it is not the American's fault, but the dictatoriorship of the history of America... :( If you think about it, all people are slaves of the system. People work day and night throughout all their lifes and for what? Nothing at all. There are almost more people in prison then people free and you call America the "land of freedom" or whatever. No, it is not. This freedom is a delusion. It is just the way the government control people. The educational system simply brainwash people to become like pieces of a machinery. Have you ever watched "Metropolis"? No... anyone is jealous... and theer are probably some that feel pity...



You say that about the best country to live in the world? Even our game industry is getting pretty big cause we are so much more creative then Americans... The quality of life here is really excellent. Maybe that's why so many Americans move in...:rolleyes:

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Or maybe it is YOU that talk funny... for them, it is...:bugeye:
And who said tha there IS a RIGHT side of the road to drive???

It's a JOKE! lighten up

Maybe that's why some don't care at all about US and others hate...:rolleyes:

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If depends on you, we will probably become instinct or will be surrounded by waste (nuclear or industrial...).:bugeye:


You base the logic of your argument against America on the plot of an old movie? (A movie made in America I might add)

Actually I like Canada & Canadians. More power to the game industry

"Or maybe it is YOU that talk funny... for them, it is...:bugeye:
And who said tha there IS a RIGHT side of the road to drive???"

It's a JOKE! lighten up



Yes, many hate us. But we understand. Just don't piss us off




Become instinct? Your spelling and grammer are bad. How old are you (seriously) . I hope I'm not arguing with a child.

You base the logic of your argument against America on the plot of an old movie? (A movie made in America I might add)
Which movie...??:bugeye:

Actually I like Canada & Canadians. More power to the game industry
True for me too... :)

Yes, many hate us. But we understand. Just don't piss us off
Maybe you DON'T understand why...
In fact, most people hate your government, and not the people.

Become instinct? Your spelling and grammer are bad. How old are you (seriously) . I hope I'm not arguing with a child.
I will answer that with your own words...
"It's a JOKE! lighten up"
;)

PEACE NEIGHBOR!:D

Oh... but I'm not Canadian yet... But I'll be someday... when I marry a pretty Canadian girl...:D:D:D:cool:

Canada.....





Man what a place to live :)

Yep. Pretty girls, beer and hockey!! :D:D:D
And fishing, skiing, snow war fighting, toboging, camping, etc...:)

American public school product. Test me. Geography, whatever. I will be on line tomorrow/today, depending 2/16.

I find most of the posts here to be an affort. Glad to find this however. I think we can be friends. :p

There are almost more people in prison then people free and you call America the "land of freedom" or whatever.

So are you saying people who are convicted of a crime shouldn't be punished?

The US has around 2 million people in prison, which isn't close to outnumbering the free ones. Could anyone give me a more up to date or specific figure? http://www.cin.org/archives/cinjust/200002/0250.html

It could be me, but I think the Brittish folks are driving on the right side of the road: the left side. Has something to do with right-hand coordination.

Anyway, we are going the wrong way here with our Canada/US blabbering.

Freedom.... well I was taught that it ends where the one of other start. Firearms have the property of propelling metal with a more or less liniar trajectory regardless of 'personal space' borders. The existance of these things in every day life in the US probably also explains the 2% thingie: when carrying a gun it takes less effort to opt for a long sentence. Perhaps it the belief that these weapons are defensive that makes the US unable to understand why France, Belgium and Germany refuse to send military equiptment to Turkey.

YoungWriter,

So are you saying people who are convicted of a crime shouldn't be punished?
No. I'm saying that the system itself produces those people.

The US has around 2 million people in prison, which isn't close to outnumbering the free ones. Could anyone give me a more up to date or specific figure? http://www.cin.org/archives/cinjust/200002/0250.html
That's not what I've read. In fact, I also read that the number of prisioners in US is the greatest in the world. Also most people in jail did not really commited a crime. I remember reading about that in a link that I got from another thread in the forums... so it is out there...

truthseeker said: most people in jail did not really commit a crime

Nobody in this joint is guilty.

What does that mean...?

"What does that mean...?"

Shawshank Redemption.

"That's not what I've read. In fact, I also read that the number of prisioners in US is the greatest in the world. Also most people in jail did not really commited a crime. I remember reading about that in a link that I got from another thread in the forums... so it is out there..."

Believe me, you read wrong. The U.S. has a high crime rate among first world nations, but it's not nearly at the level some areas of the world are touching. Such as.....Brazil! Numero Uno in murders! Reigning champ, anyway.

There are not 150 million+ people in US jails, Nelson.

Truthseeker, you're claiming that there are 100+ million people in USA jails.

Source that ISN'T a tabloid or a Michael Jackson fan?:D

Originally posted by YoungWriter
So are you saying people who are convicted of a crime shouldn't be punished?Not when the "crime" is an activity performed by one or more consenting adults, generally in the privacy of their own homes, which causes no direct harm to others, and the cause of virtually all the indirect harm is the laws against the activity and the resulting transition to a black market, which of necessity is run by violent people, the only ones who are willing to take great illegal risks to make great illegal profits. The US has around 2 million people in prison, which isn't close to outnumbering the free ones.It is still the largest percentage of population in prison of any country on earth, by a huge margin. You have to go back to Stalinist Russia, South Africa under apartheid, or the Mao Dynasty in China -- the cesspools of history -- to find a country whose incarceration rate comes even close to 21st Century America.

Tyler,

Believe me, you read wrong. The U.S. has a high crime rate among first world nations, but it's not nearly at the level some areas of the world are touching. Such as.....Brazil! Numero Uno in murders! Reigning champ, anyway.
I remember now... YOU gave me the site. But you gave me in the page of Brasil (which was pretty small), so I went to the US page (which was so big that I had to spend some good half hour reading...).

Originally posted by Fraggle Rocker
Not when the "crime" is an activity performed by one or more consenting adults, generally in the privacy of their own homes, which causes no direct harm to others, and the cause of virtually all the indirect harm is the laws against the activity and the resulting transition to a black market, which of necessity is run by violent people, the only ones who are willing to take great illegal risks to make great illegal profits.It is still the largest percentage of population in prison of any country on earth, by a huge margin. You have to go back to Stalinist Russia, South Africa under apartheid, or the Mao Dynasty in China -- the cesspools of history -- to find a country whose incarceration rate comes even close to 21st Century America.

Agreed that many crimes aren't jail type, but legalizing drugs, prostitution, etc... is for a different debate.

My point was that the US does have a high crime rate, but doesn't have half the US population in prison, as TS has claimed (without a source, that is).

Originally posted by YoungWriter
Agreed that many crimes aren't jail type, but legalizing drugs, prostitution, etc... is for a different debate.


Legalization is a different debate, so let's accept that it is illegal, there is no reason to put a person in a cage.


Just wondering...

What types of penalties are given in Canada or UK? Hopefully they aren't as dumb as they are here.

Canada is currently debating whether to decriminalize small amounts of pot........theres currently jail time attached to the charge of possesion

Smoked enough pot in my life to equal my weight. No good came from it. Got me in trouble a couple times though. Kicked out of college etc... Still don't think it's worthy of doin' time. :rolleyes:

Let me declare myself expert on legalised drugs for the time being. I am from the Netherlands. Drugs are sold under government control here.

1. We have a network of methanol busses and busstops, a replacement for all kinds of harddrugs. In theory: No high and no pain. I believe if you have a doctor's prescription it's free of charge.

2. We have coffeeshops marked with a 5-leaf weed sign. It's unclear whether or not you would be able to purchase coffee there but it's a place where you can buy user-amounts of grass once a day if you are 18 or older.

In the law, it's forbidden. We have an unwritten law that says the police will look the other way when it comes to those places.

Positive results:

-A non-deminished ability to intervene when it comes to severe abuse.

-Cheaper drugs. No-one is risking their ass to sell them. Addicted folks won't have to go arround begging or stealing for their fix and will be alot more enjoyable because their needs are 'satisfied'.

-Quality checked drugs. One of the largest problems of drugs is that it's quality is volitile what leads to overdoses and a growing hunger because "the effect was larger last time". Some 'retailers' in the black circuit also mix the stuff with total crap because that is the way to make an easy buck in the short run.

-It's regulated where they are sold and more or less for which price. You can post some extra survailance, a social worker or a jehova's witness there. People's house price will decline but at least with a more or less fixed amount.

-Drugwars are a thing of the past. (When it comes to non-domestic demand we do have some problems.)

-A certain kind of people will enjoy the legal circuit and not move on to the harder stuff.

-Drug tourism, trade balance.

-Finally something usefull to do with all the drugs you intercept. And the Rotterdam harbour (largest of the world) provides a few tons of assorted goods every year :)

-Better statistics.


Negative effects:

-Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly?

-Overall a larger druguse (About 40%) which is largely due to the "if it's legal, how can it be bad" arguementation. Also it's become increasingly difficult for parents to forbid.

-Resistance when one is opened. And ongoing resistance by the Christian political parties. Argh well, that just means they are complaining less (nominally) about other stuff.


That's about all I can think of right now.

Originally posted by Mystech
...I had no idea there was a movie studio in Australia. . . but then I guess there would have to be, because of those Mad Max movies I like. Have you seen <i>The Matrix</i>? One guess where it was filmed.

know most than most americans, AND IM A IDIOT (ad you can see by my spelling even tho i got a 89% average in my English classes) hehe
Looks like your grammar's not doing so bad either.:D

I remember going to the gazeteer(How many people here know that word:eek: )to look at the maps that show things like resources, where they'd put the little symbols all over the map. Used to count them up.:D

gazeteer: Someone who sells the Gazette?

Anyway I remember going to the library to make houling noises, find the books other people are looking for to borrow them just before they do and defending obscene opions to the old people reading newspapers so that they would be trapped in a value-debate and left with no other power then the loudness of their voice. But not all of us were blessed with such a rich and meaningfull childhood....

One link...
http://www.comebackalive.com/df/dplaces/unitedst/index.htm

"Land of the free and home of the brave. And you'd better be damned brave here, because people are free to do pretty much anything they like. Behind white picket fences and two-car garages, husbands clobber their wives silly while their kids make crack deals over the phone with Scarface on the tube. A land where the license plates of one state reads: "Live Free or Die." Nice choice."

"In Littleton, Colorado, a couple of pimply-faced kids too squirrely to join their high school football team, and armed like a Navy SEAL team, whack 12 of their fellow students and a teacher before doing a sword-swallowing act with their assault rifles and chowing on a lead lunch. "

"In Chicago, a World Church of the Creator white-supremacist fruitcake goes on a two-state ethnic duck-shoot that leaves two dead and nine wounded before also dining on a .32-caliber Tootsie Roll. The victims' crime? They'd look a little out of place in a Greenwich, Connecticut, Starbucks.

In Wyoming, a kid is beaten in a pickup and his corpse then propped up on a roadside property stake like a bludgeoned scarecrow-because he's gay. In Texas, another guy is dragged behind a pickup until his limbs peel off his torso like drumsticks on a well-broiled turkey-because he's a black dude."

"In L.A., inner-city toddlers catch stray bullets from drive-by shooters, while, in New York, Islamic whackos use a rented van full of fertilizer makings to blow up the World Trade Center. In San Diego, a despondent plumber hotwires a tank, flattens some cars, and is shot to death after high-centering on a freeway divider. Rival rapsters in New York and L.A. gun down each other in a war of the coasts. "

"Here, random violence and thoughtless pain take on plot, character and movie deals, as two rich kids splatter their parents' brains against a wall with a 12-gauge for a couple of Rolexes. In Los Angeles, a former football hero and movie star is accused of nearly severing his ex-wife's head and brutally stabbing to death her acquaintance. Meanwhile, during his "getaway," traffic on plagued L.A. freeways comes to a halt; motorists emerge from their cars waving banners urging, "Go O.J.!" and "Save the Juice!" After the most publicized trial in history, the jury lets him go free."

"Hey, America . . .

What Time Is It?

Every 2 seconds
a criminal offense

Every 3 seconds
a property crime

Every 4 seconds
a larceny-theft

Every 13 seconds
a burglary

Every 19 seconds
a violent crime

Every 23 seconds
a vehicle is stolen

Every 28 seconds
an aggravated assault

Every 60 seconds
a robbery

Every 5 minutes
a rape

Every 29 minutes
a murder

Every 30 minutes
news, sports and weather"

"In America one in every 175 people are in jail. Prison populations have doubled in the last 15 years. Maybe we should move to Chechnya, it's safer isn't it?"

"The venerable building has been riddled with the bullets of drive-by shootings, bad snipers, even a crashed airplane. America is not a Pepsi commercial or the Brady Bunch. America is a dangerous place."


For Brasil:
"In May 1999, a Sao Paulo court overturned the 59-year prison sentence given a former police officer who was videotaped shooting at slum dwellers. The cop was one of eight caught on tape in 1997 beating the crap out of three men with nightsticks at a Sao Paulo roadblock. After the gendarmes allowed the victims to return to their car, the convicted officer decided to take some target practice and killed a 27-year-old mechanic in the back seat."
I still remember seeing this in the news... Yes, I remember because it was one of the few I've seen on TV. Our TV usually "features" violence that happens outside our country, since we don't have so much in here. There was a lot of protest and he was sentenced to the rest of his life in prison.... if I remember well...

"During the same month, hundreds of Rio slum residents rioted after the police shooting and killing of a 15-year-old boy. It was the third child shot by police in as many days."
Yeah... there was riot against the police. Again, brasilians like justice and we fight against it.

"Rio de Janeiro is a continuing source of petty crimes committed by street kids barely out of pajamas."
Poverty is a problem and there are a lot of non-governamental organizations that bring those kids together and do many kinds of activities to keep them out of the street. They are also fed and have some place to sleep. However, they can get out of there whenever they want. There are some that unfortunatly prefer the streets.

"There is little sympathy on behalf of Rio's citizenry for these prepubescent dope peddlers, and it's unlikely that the police, who knock them off on a regular basis, will be convicted for what is generally viewed as a socially beneficial act."
That is simply not true. I've seen many times on the news policemen being condemned by doing that. And those kids are exactly those I was talking about above. I still remember hearing the news on TV about this organization. And there are many like that all over the country.

"Is is estimated that there are 7 million kids living on the streets in Brazil. Hunted by death squads like rats in a sewer, they subsist by begging, stealing and deionizing themselves on petrol-based solvents. Are they a threat? You bet."
Actually, a lot of people give money, food and clothes to those kids (my grandma included). There is a lot of compassion towards those kids and the government, ufortunatly, doesn't do enough. So we have non-governamental organizations to help those kids, and also people like my grandma, that simply give things away.

"Other criminals in Brazil fall under the umbrella of nebulous quasi-terrorists. One street gang, with visions of sugarplums and Abu Nidal, menacingly calls itself the Commando Vermelho (Red Command). This "terrorist" group strikes in a sporadic fashion, but its actions are essentially criminal activities. In fact, the Red Command may be no more than a gang operating under a nom de guerre. And the absence of any identifiable pattern in the crimes suggests most are the work of individuals rather than any organized group."
No. It IS an organized group. In fact, a VERY organized group. They actually even have cellular phones. They also have grenades and other pretty dangerous weapons. However, there is a lot of fighting aginst them. Even more since the last governor got ut. He was pretty bad. Imagine... he even let the criminals use cellular phone in the prison!!! Fortunatly, he already got out of there. A little bit more and we would kick his butt out of there. But anyways... since the new governor game in, there is a lot of fighting going on against those criminals. When we started pushing those criminals, they fought back. The "good" news is that a lot of them finished by being killed, by the police or by one of their own. It is much less dangerous now. And the "favelas" are being integrated into the city, with electricity, urbanization and water.

"There's a huge difference in living standards between the developed south of Brazil and the northeast. Consequently, there has been massive migration to Rio's and Sao Paulo's slums. This has caused a sharp increase in urban violence. A group of neo-Nazi nasties called Carecas do Brasil (Skinheads of Brazil) operate with two other extremist clubs out of Sao Paulo and specialize in brutally beating Nordestinos (northeasterners) along with Jews, blacks and gays, not to mention murdering street kids."
The northeast now is much more developed. Also, those skinheads are being looked after.

"...bubonic plague and cholera-a few good reasons for a lot of crime."
We NEVER had bubonic plague and cholera was EXTREMELY fought doing the 90's, being TOTALLY irradicated.

The basic difference between Brasil and US:
People in Brasil are very compassionate towards each other (with exceptions, of course) and people are very worried about the collective.

People in US are usually selfish and they don't care about their neightbours. In fact, the TV teaches them that their neightbours might be dangerous or strange in any way (read that in an article, but unfortunatly, I don't remember where).

EDIT: try to compare the lengh of the brasilian list with the lengh of the american one...

This data is incomparable.

Everywhere, shit happens. I prefer statistics. I was in Japan for one and a half months about three years ago. During that time 6 highschool students made the news having freaked out in diverse ways resulting in a diverse number of deaths (up to 7, long live the baseballbat!). One even saw it neccesary to "pumpkinse" the head he had severed from a 11-year-old pedestrian and leave it spiked on the schoolfence.

Originally posted by Gifted
I remember going to the gazeteer(How many people here know that word:eek: )to look at the maps that show things like resources, where they'd put the little symbols all over the map. Used to count them up.:D


i dunno bout gazeteer, but i remeber we played this GIANT board game that our teacher made (it was hung off the roof with chains, big fucker) and you would get a country, and run it and controll its economy and army. was really neat, my team won, some team tryed to attack the other countrys and got its ass kicked, and someone tryed to grow marajuna crops and got busted :D

was a neat game, kinda risk for the year 2000

see learning should be fun and game, not sleep and work!!!, tho i dont mind the sleep :P

People in US are usually selfish and they don't care about their neightbours. In fact, the TV teaches them that their neightbours might be dangerous or strange in any way

TS, go read the thread on mass generalizations. Until you can come up with a source that has a static that +50% of USA citizens are like that, then your greatly biased opinion has no ground.

I find it entertaining that your source pokes at the problemed-ridden Columbine kids but doesn't dare make fun of the white supremicists (sp?) who killed the Jew and the African-American.

I've read it somewhere, but unfortunatly I don't remember where. I think it was in the enciclopedia Britannica when I was writting a English thesis about violence, one year ago. But I'm not sure...

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
I've read it somewhere, but unfortunatly I don't remember where. I think it was in the enciclopedia Britannica when I was writting a English thesis about violence, one year ago. But I'm not sure...

You're saying that an encyclopedia proved that the majority of Americans are violent, cruel, and uncaring?

Go to a library, they should have one for resource. List the page number and I'll check it out tomorrow.

C'mon guys, try a little harder!

adunguem-incoparable facts? That good. You mean not comparable?

A Canadian- kinda risk for 2000? Kinda risky for the 2000's?

Young-Problemed ridden? etc...

Truth- inciclopedia? writting English thesis? Encyclopedia, writing?

I'm not good and don't mean to be a smart ass but please try a little harder. This is a thoughtful forum and you all make excellent points and have good things to share. Effort please, english thesis, geez.....:confused:

One even saw it neccesary to "pumpkinse" the head he had severed from a 11-year-old pedestrian and leave it spiked on the schoolfence.


:bugeye: :eek: hmmmmmmmm.........

YoungWriter,

You're saying that an encyclopedia proved that the majority of Americans are violent, cruel, and uncaring?
I think so. But I learnt thet long time ago...

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
YoungWriter,


I think so. But I learnt thet long time ago...

Well, if you'll excuse me, I need to go rape someone right now:m: .

Rushguy1:

Young-Problemed ridden? etc...

Are you referring to the USA? Kinda confused. If you are, you're right. Same goes for every other country on this planet.

Actually I was goading all of you for your spelling and grammatical errors. Just trying to get a rise, but now I wonder....:(

Originally posted by rushguy1
Actually I was goading all of you for your spelling and grammatical errors. Just trying to get a rise, but now I wonder....:(


it would be nice if you could post a thread concerning the topic instead of pointing out spelling errors

thats my pet pev.
it the same as someone who corrects poeples grammers when they talk in real life....

The US has such a diverse population that saying "americans are dumb" only makes YOU look dumb.
Realistically, america has the best and worst when it comes to intelligence. You have the morons on jerry springer, but then you have the genius' that are writing the simpsons, you have the idiots living in tornado alley, but then you have the super-human intelligence of the Cia who are screwing with everyone on earths mind.
You have to admit, america is fairly entertaining and interesting as far as countries go.

Originally posted by rushguy1
American public school product. Test me. Geography, whatever. I will be on line tomorrow/today, depending 2/16.

I find most of the posts here to be an affort. Glad to find this however. I think we can be friends. :p

There is no such word as "affort" (source: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=affort). Also, there are multiple sentence fragments.

Don't make a big deal out of it. If you're referring to the "Tupac" thread, I merely pointed out the seriousness of the board and, from what I have gathered in the multiple threads about it, isn't proper and doesn't help prove your point.

Out of my several posts I indeed have made one spelling error. Thank you for pointing it out.

I have found many times on this board that Americans are made fun of in general.

Seriousness of this board is in question. In the free thoughts forum there is very little. Although I have little time and have not explored other areas of the board. That's wonderful in some ways. I notice that most of the people here are VERY young. I do question public schools in our country and all others, looking at these posts.

Basically you're all a bunch of good seed and hope that the future is bright.

It is said, from Canada, "When they turn the page of history, and our time has past long ago. Will they look on us with sadness, for the seeds that we have sown."

I don't think so with this generation, but maybe with mine. :cool:

Actually, spelling/grammar errors are in two of your posts on page 3:D. I guess that's what this stuff does:m: .

On page 3 only intentional ones. Anyway something else. We have basically a "local" forum that could really use input from you all. Really, please go to frontporchradio.com Now this is something started and thus far only used by folks in my hometown. HELP!:D

http://www.frontporchradio.com/


You folks are very contemplative. We could really use that. Please visit. This is a very "local" website in Hot Springs AR. Nothing available for sale. Just talk. Visit, please. :)

This all comes down the the good old saying "Anyone making an absolute statement is a fool.". Selfcontradicting? Perhaps. But nonetheless insightfull.

Many of us are here to communicate; to share knowledge, thoughts, opinions and emotions. I am doing this in my precious spare time. I momentarily have 3 fulltime commitments; time management and strategic neglect planning is another one. Besides, I enjoy coming up with new words. You are more then welcome to talk Dutch or Zeeuws to me instead. I shall not be made to feel obliged to paste my words in an English version of MSword before I post them.