View Full Version : LOTR - What do you REALLY think?


Thor
08-26-02, 03:32 AM
I want to know what everyone thinks about this film.

I thought it was bad, very bad. Ask and I may tell you why

But this is about what YOU think

Bebelina
08-26-02, 06:28 AM
I thought it was great, why didn't you like it?

Thor
08-26-02, 06:38 AM
Right..... Here goes:

People claim it was very fast paced. Yeah right. It was the most slow paced film I've ever had the misfortune to see. It was like 5min fight scene, hour talking, 20min fight scene, hour talking, 20min fight scene, 10min talking, end of film

The special effects aren't that good. That cave troll looked quite poor, especially when that Elf guy jumped on its back

The story was poor. They should have made the original Hobbit books into films.

I have loads more, can't think of them now. But that film is VERY over-rated

Saith
08-26-02, 07:08 AM
I reminded me of the movie Willow some. A traveling midget who ditches his midet friend/s and gets a non-midget friend while on his journey who is scary at first. Although I liked Willow better.

I didn't care much for the story line either.

Bebelina
08-26-02, 08:18 AM
Yes, I liked Willow too.
I think the film is better if you have read the books, or?
I haven't read them, but still like it. Or maybe it's the other way around, that those who have read the books expect too much.

Firefly
08-26-02, 11:42 AM
People claim it was very fast paced.
Read the books, then you'll agree. :p


A traveling midget who ditches his midet friend/s and gets a non-midget friend while on his journey who is scary at first.
ROTFL, hadn't quite seen it like that. :p

I liked it, but then, I'm a hormone crazed teenager.:)

%BlueSoulRobot%
08-26-02, 01:53 PM
Ok, I admit the first time I read the books, I was bored to death. But now, I really really like it, especially after the film. Even if I think Tolkien is slightly off his rocker (he was way too into his own fiction), Lord of the Rings is an enjoyable read, and it's becoming a great epic trilogy. :)

The first hour probably pissed people off the most, because it's all about the darn hobbits running around and being frightened, but I found the rest exciting. :D The building up of plot and character is slow of course, Fellowship of the Ring being the first in a trilogy, but the rest is going to be so much more. The Two Towers promises more blood n' gore, and the movement of forces across Middle-earth to battle evil, and crazy junk like that. :D

My friend who hated Lord of the Rings (whom I dragged along with me to see :D ) even told me it was one of the best fantasy movies she's ever seen. On the other hand, another friend who's obsessed with the fictional works of Mercedes Lackey absolutely abhored LoTR... :confused:

I guess one of the main factors my friends kept going back to see LOTR over again is because of Legolas, the elf. Something about a hot guy in a silver-blonde wig shooting arrows...? lol :D
<img src=http://www.orlandobloom.co.nz/images/lg38sml.jpg>

(what am I talking about..?) The set designs were spectacular, they actually built all the stuff and tried to do as little CGI as possible
- costumes were laboured over, especially the masks of each Orc, because they were all original works of art
- use of the latest CGI for Gollum, to make him as life-like as possible
- beautiful scenery of New Zealand (another note: Canada beat New Zealand 75-72! Yeah!)
- superb musical scores by Howard Shore, and Enya

Avatar
08-26-02, 02:02 PM
LOTR is great
from many aspects

Frencheneesz
08-26-02, 02:21 PM
A traveling midget who ditches his midet friend/s and gets a non-midget friend while on his journey who is scary at first.


LOL, i wish i was genious enough to make a story out of that!

Nova1021
08-26-02, 02:43 PM
I've never heard anyone claim it was fast paced... and it doesnt need to be. As for "the story was poor", well it WAS based on the best fantasy books ever written...i guess if thats someone's idea of a poor story then oh well, you can't please everyone.

I'm wondering, did you ever read the books? Maybe i liked the movie better because i had already read the books... I thought it was very good and the best adaptation of a book into a movie i know of.

A4Ever
08-26-02, 04:02 PM
I really liked it.

You're right about the troll and there are imperfections in other scenes too.

I liked the introduction, the pace and the fighting.

I must say that I went with a big back of popcorn and a diet coke, not with the Tolkien book in one hand and a critics pen in the other.

firdroirich
08-27-02, 09:02 AM
I havent seen the movie yet but have read the books many a time & I think the magical nature of these characters & events make it a hard task for film to capture. Most movies today are pretty graphic intensive to bring us close to what the writers are trying to portray.. but who has can with the mind's eye see these characters,exactly, we all expect different things because that is where these characters belong, in a place we can't quite reach, so take it for what it is & enough said already:o

Tyler
08-27-02, 11:54 AM
I haven't been able to read a fantasy book besides Alice in Wonderland in ages. The whole genre never really appealed to me, I couldn't find anything truly interesting in it. Lord Of The Rings I could only read the first two books, and the second one took me ages to make my way through.

The movies were of little difference to me. I don't like fantasy but I did manage to enjoy LOTR for a number of reasons.

- The story line is interesting (though more so in the second one in my opinion)
- The acting was for the most part good and at times brilliant
- The directing was interesting to follow because, as we all know, there is huuuuuuge pressure in directing LOTR movies
- New Zealand is gorgeous

I didn't care for the special affects as, being a non-fantasy fan, I find monsters cheapen a movie usually. Still, LOTR was a good movie. What it is not is a brilliant or otherwise top-tier film. There was only one actor in it who was truly brilliant, the script was good but not great and the story line had no true meaning or emotion yet. The second book for me was more interesting partially because you get so much of a deeper look into the emotions and nature of the focus characters and I assume the movies will be like that too.

NightFall
08-27-02, 12:12 PM
and i fell asleep.. it was slow.. and... there were so many dramatic significant parts.. that the movie was mostly dramatic and significant.. which made none of it REALLY that dramatic or significant. .. also.. who in their right mind cast elijah wood? its more interesting to follow a characters life if they are atleast somewhat attractive. but what can i say.. i was hoping for 'highlander' and ended up with 'harry potter'.

Avatar
08-27-02, 12:16 PM
naah- not everyone is attractive in real life

I better watch more "real":D movie.

I wouldn't like if someone was like Scorpion King lol

NightFall
08-27-02, 12:34 PM
and it doesnt need to be. As for "the story was poor", well it WAS based on the best fantasy books ever written..

a movie made after a book doesn't mean its just like the book. Look at 'Queen Of The Damned'. a not too bad movie.. but if you read the books first.. its a slottered mess.

Avatar
08-27-02, 12:43 PM
agree with the Queen of the Damned :mad:

NightFall
08-27-02, 12:49 PM
you can't shove three books into one, that proceed a first book, put it into a movie with diferent characters... NOT call it a sequel becuase you cant get the smae characters in the cast, and then expect it to make sense... i went opening night.. the movie overall was nice.. but personally.. i was pretty pissed.

Avatar
08-27-02, 12:53 PM
is LOTR 2 out NOW??:eek:

NightFall
08-27-02, 12:56 PM
lotr2.. hvn't heard.. lemme check...
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002)
opens Wednesday December 18th

Thor
08-27-02, 01:04 PM
Look at the original Dune film, no where near as good as the book. It has that freaky 70's style to it.

I did like the battle at the beggining, even though it was too blured to see anything. I liked the Elven Warriors with their Halberds :D

Saith
08-27-02, 02:04 PM
there were so many dramatic significant parts.. that the movie was mostly dramatic and significant.. which made none of it REALLY that dramatic or significant.

Oh yeah I forgot how it was like that. That's how Dragon Ball Z is. There was so many dramatic/climatic parts in the movie that in the end you felt like there was no true dramatic or climatic parts. Kinda like a dramatic teen or shock rock star, after awhile it just gets dull and annoying.

%BlueSoulRobot%
08-27-02, 02:12 PM
I did like the battle at the beggining, even though it was too blured to see anything. I liked the Elven Warriors with their Halberds :D
Yeah, that part was amazing! The swooping camera shots really took in the massive proportions of the converging armies, and the screaming and slashing of the Orcs combined with the audio track...absolutely blood-chillingly wonderful. :D :)

Nova1021
08-27-02, 05:58 PM
Yeah, loved the opening battle. The wave of elven(sp?) arrows knocking the whole front line of orcs back was sweet. I can't wait to see the ents in the next movie. Should be very very cool.

Thor
08-27-02, 06:05 PM
I just liked the synchronised slashing

archwriter
08-28-02, 10:52 PM
I thought LOTR was gret, very much how I pictured a lot of the scenes when I read the book. In fact I was pleasantly surprise how good the movie was and how close to the book it was.

%BlueSoulRobot%
08-30-02, 02:47 PM
I don't know, Archwriter, some people would argue that the movie was pretty far from the books. Even Tolkien would have hated the film (said some sources). :D Like, Arwen didn't rescue Frodo, some other elf guy did. And the friendship between Gimli and Legolas didn't have a chance to grow, which is going to be tough at the end, when they sail away together to destinations unknown. :)

archwriter
08-31-02, 08:19 AM
True BSR, but its still fairly close compared to most other "Blockbuster" movies that were adapted from books. Anyway I got my moneys worth.

Firefly
08-31-02, 11:15 AM
Just to be pedantic...


Arwen didn't rescue Frodo, some other elf guy did.
Glorfindel, I think.

Pippin's Sister
10-05-02, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Thor
Right..... Here goes:

People claim it was very fast paced. Yeah right. It was the most slow paced film I've ever had the misfortune to see. It was like 5min fight scene, hour talking, 20min fight scene, hour talking, 20min fight scene, 10min talking, end of film

The special effects aren't that good. That cave troll looked quite poor, especially when that Elf guy jumped on its back

The story was poor. They should have made the original Hobbit books into films.

I have loads more, can't think of them now. But that film is VERY over-rated
That movie was great! First of all, it was VERY fast paced, second of all it was very long so what you said couldnt have possibly been true and the special effects were great. It was a good story and plot! BTW, does anyone know if Elijah Wood is a midget or not? They make it seem that way in the movie.

Thor
10-05-02, 07:47 PM
As I recall, hes not. He was taller than Frodo in North, so go figure

Hellspawn666
10-05-02, 11:32 PM
I thought it was good cuz they didn't mess with the story for the most part (I know there's some junk that is a little different). Good acting and special effects. I saw it a bunch of times so I guess I liked it.

WhiteKnight
10-05-02, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Pippin's Sister
BTW, does anyone know if Elijah Wood is a midget or not? They make it seem that way in the movie.

No he's not. They used computers to make the hobbits and dwarves seem tiny, though.

Hellspawn666
10-06-02, 12:21 AM
that was a great special effect. The guy who plays gimli is over 6 feet and I never doubted his height for a second. Impressive...

NightFall
10-06-02, 12:30 AM
LOL. ofcourse elijah wood is not a midget. he's the "free willy" kid.

picture him shouting "swim willy swim!!"

Hellspawn666
10-06-02, 12:38 AM
no he isn't. He wasn't even in that movie. He was in flipper.

NightFall
10-06-02, 12:49 AM
woah there.
sorry.
didn't realize you were such a big fan of young boys and their oversized water critters.
guess you're the expert.

Hellspawn666
10-06-02, 12:51 AM
damn straight and don't you forget it.

NightFall
10-06-02, 12:54 AM
LMAO:eek: :D

Hellspawn666
10-06-02, 12:54 AM
wait till I get started with little girls and their invisible friends

NightFall
10-06-02, 01:00 AM
im not sure this is going to be "g" rated...

Hellspawn666
10-06-02, 01:13 AM
triple X baby... without a doubt

DeSeRt RaT UK
10-06-02, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by Pippin's Sister
That movie was great! First of all, it was VERY fast paced, second of all it was very long so what you said couldnt have possibly been true and the special effects were great. It was a good story and plot! BTW, does anyone know if Elijah Wood is a midget or not? They make it seem that way in the movie.

Some of the scenes it definatly isn't Elijah Woods there, especially scenes where to can't see his face. Some others were done by placing characters closer to the camera then the hobbits, creating a forced perspective of the hobbits being small. Get the DVD, it tells you how they managed it. Or better yet, wait for the special edition that comes out next month.

Thor
10-06-02, 08:06 AM
Woah, this took its sweet time to be moved

Pollux V
10-06-02, 09:43 AM
Quote from the chat thor and I are having:

-You're so pretty when you're faithful to me!!: sorry man. I loved LOTR. I watch it, like every week. It was very fast paced. The acting was brilliant. Directing was brilliant. Camera shots were amazing, a model for any amateur movie I could ever make. This movie has it all, for someone like me. Just...perfect:D
-dkokkapitan@hotmail.com: (after, like, five minutes) I disagree.
-You're so pretty when you're fathful to me!!: back yourself up
-You're so pretty when you're faithful to me!!: why?
-dkokkapitan@hotmail.com IT SUCKED:D

Thor
10-06-02, 09:57 AM
And the rest....come on

And I was talking to like 5 other people (including Avatar) and I was taking a timed online test

Pollux V
10-06-02, 09:58 AM
YOU LIE!!

Thor
10-06-02, 10:01 AM
I assure you I am not lying. You are the one putting bias into your post by not including my FULL responce.

Anyway, I've seen so much better than LOTR. Its hardly a masterpeice

Deena
10-07-02, 12:10 PM
It seems like a nostalgia based film. Some of it was really good but mostly as additions to the book.

I hear that the battle at helm deep is going to be HUGE in the next one though, like the biggest ever on film or something.

Gifted
10-09-02, 04:53 PM
If you read the book, then you know that they left some stuff out, Tom Bambodil and the first meeting with elves.

Pollux V
10-09-02, 06:21 PM
Tom Bombadil was funkin awesome. I wish they hadn't cut him out:(

Deena
10-09-02, 07:21 PM
Man, the second time through those books Tom Bombadil really pissed me off. That man is arrogant as fuck.

Which is how I started to feel about Gandalf the second time through too but I thought what's-his-face did a really good job with him in the movie. Sort of saved the character, way less fucko.

Pollux V
10-09-02, 07:25 PM
I'm sorry, but a chubby man who wears a yellow hat and jumps through the forest singing about his wife is like, amazingly perfect. What more could you want:confused:

Gifted
10-10-02, 04:55 PM
If you recall from the book, the first meeting with the elves was important to the plot. They added so much other stuff, but left out these scenes.

Deena
10-10-02, 08:14 PM
Was he chubby? I don't remember that. And I read it twice. Shi-aht.

Pollux V
10-10-02, 08:25 PM
I think it was. I read it twice too. It's been awhile.

Clockwood
10-10-02, 11:13 PM
Loved it. Personally I think I needs to be about an hour longer each episode. Few would sit through that though.

%BlueSoulRobot%
10-13-02, 09:41 PM
About the Tom Bombadil part..I hear it's going to be added in, probably in the special edition packs that effectively steal people's money. :)

And the parts of Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, and Gimli were actually played by midgets/children (dunno which), when taking backshots or perspective shots. I also think Ian McKellan had been standing on a platform during the scenes with Bilbo inside the hobbit hole...


Loved it. Personally I think I needs to be about an hour longer each episode. Few would sit through that though.
True, especially about the last part. :D My friend nearly exploded from a full bladder when watching LoTR, but was too riveted to the screen to go to the bathroom. :D


I hear that the battle at helm deep is going to be HUGE in the next one though, like the biggest ever on film or something.
Yeah, the battle's going to be la piece de resistance (is that how you say it? :) ). Have you seen the trailer for TTT, where they show part of it? It's going to kick so much ass, "I can feel it". (to quote Legolas) :D

Pollux V
10-14-02, 06:20 PM
About the Tom Bombadil part..I hear it's going to be added in, probably in the special edition packs that effectively steal people's money.

I'll be purchasing that sooner or later......whether or not it has my buddy tom in it. blah.

%BlueSoulRobot%
10-14-02, 10:38 PM
:p :D But be sure to buy the special edition with 4 disks, 'cause that has a ton of stuff in it, not like the 2 disk pack.

Pollux V
10-15-02, 06:42 AM
Gotcha. I just read an article on scifi.com, it didn't mention tom being in the extra scenes. DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!!!

DeSeRt RaT UK
10-15-02, 08:43 AM
is everyone sure he is in the SE pack? Looking on IMDb he isn't in the cast.

%BlueSoulRobot%
10-15-02, 08:55 AM
I dunno, but my LoTR club said there's something about Tom Bombadil.

(Yes, a LoTR club. I have too much time.)

:D

Firefly
10-17-02, 06:35 AM
Is it like, an official club? How credible is it? What's the address?

%BlueSoulRobot%
10-17-02, 10:46 PM
Lol, whoa whoa whoa..:D
It's a club at school, not on the Net. I'd say pretty credible, because the coordinators are obsessed, and yep, it's official, being registered as a club at my school.

Pollux V
10-18-02, 06:34 AM
Damn. That's lucky. So it counts as an extra curiccular activity?

Thor
10-18-02, 07:55 AM
*shakes head* oh dear

%BlueSoulRobot%
10-19-02, 10:38 AM
Damn. That's lucky. So it counts as an extra curiccular activity?
Yep. :) But officially it's the Sci-Fi club, not the LoTR club because the teacher sponsor wants to broaden the scope a bit.

Last week we started watching the animated version of LoTR. Man, is it hilarious! :D Gandalf is creepy, Frodo looks like a doll, Aragorn is Native American and Sam's character isn't at all what it's supposed to be! :mad: But there are soo many coincidences between the animated cartoon and the real life action movie. For example, the part where the Nazgul is sniffing for the Ring, and Frodo and his buddies are hiding under a tree root? Exactly the same in both movies.

scottishfogg
12-23-02, 12:54 AM
when it's good, it's real good. when it's bad, it's real bad. like FOTR was real good. TTT sucked royal.

CounslerCoffee
12-26-02, 12:21 AM
It's a club at school, not on the Net. I'd say pretty credible, because the coordinators are obsessed, and yep, it's official, being registered as a club at my school.

How many times a day do yall get beat up!?:D

Neville
12-26-02, 01:00 PM
Ive always found it a bit boring Thor. I do like the films though. Not as good as the Star Wars series!! :D :D (no offence any fans)

%BlueSoulRobot%
12-27-02, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
How many times a day do yall get beat up!?:D Lol! :D None, because we are the popular crowd. :cool:

scottishfogg
12-28-02, 11:22 AM
with the "Two Towers" crowd being the popular crowd, i wonder how many people actually liked this flick as opposed to the people who "have" to like it because everybody else does. it's like, "yeah, this movie is great" because everybody else says so. is honesty truly dictated by numbers?

Thor
12-28-02, 12:34 PM
One of the points I'm trying to get across Scottish

%BlueSoulRobot%
12-28-02, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by scottishfogg
with the "Two Towers" crowd being the popular crowd, i wonder how many people actually liked this flick as opposed to the people who "have" to like it because everybody else does. it's like, "yeah, this movie is great" because everybody else says so. is honesty truly dictated by numbers? "Power in numbers" ;) I personally like the movie a whole lot. I didn't see it because my friends wanted to; we all shared a common interest in LoTR. And the ones that didn't, they felt completely at ease to tell me they got bored to death and will strangle me if I started to promote any LoTR-related stuff around them. In a country of "free speech", we've all got "liberties" with what we prefer. It's just a matter of whether you're a sheep or a wolf in sheep's clothing. Or an oliphaunt, I don't care, go nuts. :D

The only thing about majority decisions that bothers me is the Oscars/award shows. You've got a selected panel of bastards telling us that such and such is art, and the rest is crap. Award shows are asinine. They only serve to mold and structure our "tastes". I don't care if some movie won an Oscar; I don't see movies because everyone is absolutely in love with it, or that it got rave reviews. That's why I hate Ebert and Roeper. Here you have 2 human beings, telling us their opinions when I obviously don't give a crap what they think, because guess what? They are themselves, they can have their own opinions; I will prefer to have my own, and not have them broadcasted to me via TeeVEE, the altar of the 21st century.

Ok, now I sound like an asshole. :o

Let's smooth this over. I accept opinions ... just not of celebrities who think they are gods (*coughs, and gester. In fact, I am very open ... just not to people who are not open. Does that make sense...? Gah.

NOTE: I'm terribly sorry if I have offended anyone. But when I am enraged and rampant, I tend to run at the mouth and offended just about everyone within offense radius.

EvilPoet
12-28-02, 02:25 PM
I really liked it and I'm looking forward to seeing Two Towers.
You know what they say - there is no accounting for tastes. ;)

The_King
12-28-02, 07:02 PM
It was the most race-ist film i have seen in ages.

Walker
12-29-02, 09:30 AM
That was the dumb-ist post I've seen in ages.

Niudo
03-16-03, 05:56 PM
Bloody leave my LOTR alone!!! It didn't do anything to YOU, did it Thor?
And anyway, whose bloody fault is it that you don't appreciate it?
Hmm. Tough question, eh?
Ah well, it's just an opinion I guess, but it really gets under my skin. Bloody sorry.
Cheers!

wesmorrisbabe
03-24-03, 11:08 AM
I can't wait to see "Return of the King." I've already read the book but the movies have been slightly different so I'm anxious to find out how the movie will turn out.

Dracula's Guest
04-04-03, 02:06 PM
Yeah ROTK has one hell of a finale, it'll be interesting to see how it will translate to the cinema. Considering some of the stuff that they left out of TTT which will have to appear in the beginning of ROTK as well

wesmorrisbabe
04-04-03, 02:35 PM
Dracula, I agree with all of your post, Man. I'm not sure if I liked the finale in the book. It wasn't what I expected but I liked most of the storyline anyhow and I think the movie will be great too. :) I think Peter Jackson's done an excellent job. Bravo to New Line Cinema, too, for taking the risk on this picture. I think they've been justly rewarded for the gamble they took with this film.