BOSTON RADIO HOST SAYS KILL ALL MUSLIMS

(WASHINGTON, D.C., CAIR) - The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) today called for the termination of a Boston-area radio talk show host who allegedly said, "Let's kill all Muslims."

CAIR made that demand after receiving a complaint from a concerned Muslim
who heard WTKK-FM (www.969fmtalk.com) host Jay Severin's thursday afternoon program. WTKK-FM General Manager Matt Mills told CAIR that in a discussion about how Severin claims Muslims want to take over america, even if it takes centuries, Severin said, "I've got an idea, let's kill all Muslims."

"I have spoken to Jay Severin and he knows we take this seriously and do not condone offensive remarks toward any religious groups and he will be apologizing on his show Monday afternoon," said Mills in an e-mail. "He did not intend to offend anyone."

Yet, Mills also acknowledged to CAIR that if Severin had said the same thing about African-Americans that he would no longer be on the air.

CAIR Chairman Omar Ahmad said: "We believe a mere reprimand and apology is insufficient and demand that he be taken off the air as he would be if he had attacked any other religious or ethnic group."

Ahmad added that such hateful rhetoric has a direct impact on the American
Muslim community. He cited examples of anti-Muslim incidents that took place recently in Texas, such as a shooting at a Denton mosque, an e- mailed threat against the Islamic Center of El Paso (authorities made an arrest in this case today), arson attacks on Muslim businesses in San Antonio and racist graffiti scrawled on the interior of a Lubbock mosque.

The alarming increase of hate crimes against the Muslim community required
CAIR today to issue a security advisory for American Muslims called The "Muslim Community Safety Kit" booklet, designed to help local Islamic leaders protect institutions and individuals.

Last week, CAIR announced a new campaign designed to counter anti-Muslim
hate on radio talk shows. The campaign, called "Hate Hurts America," is
based on the premise that the increasing attacks on Islam by talk show
hosts harm the United States by creating a downward spiral of interfaith
mistrust and hostility.

http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=7229

Comments: Imagine if this radio host said KILL ALL JEWS !! I am sure the whole Radio will be closed down !!!!

Hate and Islamophobia is the new disease sweeping the west nowadays, very sad !!!

that is an outrageous statement for any one to make all life is sacred

but dont forget someone said that about the jews over sixty years ago

Hate and Islamophobia is the new disease sweeping the west nowadays, very sad !!! (you are tarring yourself with the same brush be carefull, (breaching hate about other religions))

It is very interesting that so far those who responded did not condemn what this Radio host said !!!

This is another proof of my comment about the hate and the Islamophobia sweeping the west nowadays.

:mad:

You act like none of us have muslim friends and we'd all just go along with it, and most of us have learned not to take a lot of notice of radio hosts, by the way it may just be a publicity stunt/joke, and by the way read the first two lines of your post, somebodies dealing with it so if your looking for someone to condemn it its in your first two lines.

I am still waiting to hear people here condeming this hateful remarks ! but it seems the silence of the majority here means they somehow agree with the statement !!

:bugeye:

Kill all the Blacks!
Kill all the Jews!
Kill all the Christians!
Kill all the Atheists!
Kill all the one-eyed lithuanian non-conformist frogs that go 'blort'!

Free speech is just the damndest thing aint it?

Yeah, lets take away everyone's free speech that isnt islamic

"I am still waiting to hear people here condeming this hateful remarks ! but it seems the silence of the majority here means they somehow agree with the statement !!"

PM, maybe you should actually read the thread, or ill just quote something

"that is an outrageous statement for any one to make all life is sacred"


secondly, did I say that we should kill all Muslims??? NO!!!, so dont attack me about it, if you actually want to make things better, find out this radio guys address and send him a letter

Kill all the Blacks!
Kill all the Jews!
Kill all the Christians!
Kill all the Atheists!
Kill all the one-eyed lithuanian non-conformist frogs that go 'blort'!

Free speech is just the damndest thing aint it?

If racism is FREE SPEECH, then to hell with your free speech.

If racism is FREE SPEECH, then to hell with your free speech.
If this was the case you would be forced to keep your mouth shut 70% of the time here

Kill all bastards!
Kill all bastards!
Kill all bastards!
Kill all bastards!
Kick them in the head.

(Flotsam and Jetsam (http://www.lyricsdownload.com/flotsam-and-jetsam-k-a-b-lyrics.html))

Proud Muslim

I would recommend that you make the concession of cutting the length of your citations. This will help make it more apparent when people go out of their way to call a thread something it's not.

Spurious

I disagree. The two lines of commentary are generally sufficient.

In General

"It is very interesting that so far those who responded did not condemn what this Radio host said."

On the one hand I would be disappointed in the lack of condemnation. But, as an American, I'm live in a nation that is so hung up on identity politics that my neighbors by and large won't be happy until Muslims stop being Muslims.

To the other, I'm also aware that both "land of the free" and "home of the brave" are reasonably sickening jokes about the United States right now. So the cowardice of the response is right on par with what Americans seem determined to stand for.

Given his resume, Severin should know better. He should be fired. But then again, some people view Howard Stern's fancy for making light of sexual assault as good broadcasting, so I'm of the opinion that Severin's stupidity is reflective of the American culture right now.

On the other hand, CAIR is being oversensitive. The Council on American-Islamic Relations ought to know by now that Americans are so superficial, so unwilling to be sincere, that something like Severin's suggestion should be ignored.

See, the thing is that Americans are determined to hate all sorts of things until you make them popular. If you really want to break the American hatred of Muslims, they need a more attractive Arabic representative on the silver screen than Hollywood can provide. Seriously, Grant Heslov is who most people think of when "Arabic actor" comes to mind. (He played "Faisal" in Schwarzeneggar's True Lies.) Get an Arabic hunk into the media. Brad Pitt does Troy? I'm telling you, a quarter-billion dollar movie called Fitnah starring some Arabic boy-toy would bring in the receipts worldwide as well as warm America's heart by virtue of melting its thighs.

Oh ... yeah. Something about not selling out values.

Bring me Baghdad's Freddie Prinze, Jr. Now that is a great strategy. Aim sort-of at the teen girls, but actually get a star that, like Freddie Prinze, turns up in pinup form in the cubicles of many gay men everywhere. (I don't get it, myself.) Now ... the thing is that even the girls who didn't like FPj decided to like FPj after they realized that women had to compete with gay men in lusting after Freddie Prinze, Jr. It's the strangest thing. Gays are popular right now, so what the queer likes, we're all supposed to like. Or, something. Between pop music, interior decorating, and Broadway, however, I don't think the subservient relationship of pop culture to gay men is any real surprise. But ... if the gay men like it, the rest of the country will follow. Because women like gay men, and the straight men like their women. Seriously, the way to this country's heart is either through the thighs of our women or up the asses of our gay men. Take your choice, but yes ... Americans are so superficial that a six-foot, stacked-and-ripped Arabic action star fighting for untruth, injustice, and the rest of the American way, or else a sensitive hearthrob on the silver screen will actually change people's fundamental perceptions of their Arab neighbors.

Admittedly, that would explain the jet airplanes.

But no amount of logic will change that American superficiality, and trying to bomb it out of us only seems to make the problem worse. Of course, we're a post-Christian nation, and it's largely in Christianity's interest to work toward the end of the world. Old habits die hard.

That, admittedly, explains Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.

I disagree. The two lines of commentary are generally sufficient.


Which lines are those?

Which lines are those?

Well ... there's these:

Comments: Imagine if this radio host said KILL ALL JEWS !! I am sure the whole Radio will be closed down !!!!

Hate and Islamophobia is the new disease sweeping the west nowadays, very sad !!!

• Minimal, perhaps. But sufficient.
• The issues contained in those lines are valid.
• Perhaps the boldfaced word Comments slipped by you.

:rolleyes:

What do you actually disagree with that relates to me?

I'm a bit lost.

Tiassa,

Many good points, however I note that you didn't condemn the statement either. Just an observation. I'm sure it was an oversight.

Proud Muslim,

What the guy said was stupid and wrong. I am not familiar with his radio show, but I imagine that he is a Howard Stern wannabe. After 9/11 Stern became the most blatant anti-muslim person I think I've ever heard. I am sure that he's made that very same comment more than once. I got tired of listening to his right wing crap and stopped listening to him for the most part.

I know that New Yorkers were outraged (and rightly so) after 9/11. They started to lash out at anyone and anything that they felt was connected to it in anyway. I imagine that the sentiment is similar in Washington D.C. as it too was targetted.

I would like to add that the DJ you were talking about did apologize (or at least said he was going to, not sure if he did or not) and I'm sure that if he says it again the response will be more extreme. I think he should have been fired, at the least he should have been severely fined for his words. Saying things like that is all some people, who are on the edge of sanity to begin with, need to start a killing spree.

Now, are there any muslim radio or tv personalities who have said "Kill all Americans" that you might wish to apologize for? Since we must apologize for our idiots, it is only fair that you apologize for yours.

I didn't think it was that hard to figure out, Spurious.


propaganda thread:

Ban PM
Move thread to cesspool.

Now ... would you care to enlighten me, please, insofar as what the hell was so hard to figure out about that?

Just because Arabs aren't worth enough in your eyes to grant human rights--e.g. free speech--doesn't mean your attitude problem should extend so far.

I mean, on the one hand, you don't even know what PM wrote that you're complaining about. To the other, you don't even know what you wrote.

So here's a nickel's worth of free advice for you, bigot: Get off the hate train. It's a dead-end ride.

Many good points, however I note that you didn't condemn the statement either. Just an observation. I'm sure it was an oversight.Which statement am I supposed to be condemning?

The one about killing all Muslims that I called "stupidity," and noted that the guy should have known better than to say, and that he should be fired for saying?

Now ... would you care to enlighten me, please, insofar as what the hell was so hard to figure out about that?

Sure: I'm not a mindreader.


Just because Arabs aren't worth enough in your eyes to grant human rights--e.g. free speech--doesn't mean your attitude problem should extend so far.

Where did I state that?



I mean, on the one hand, you don't even know what PM wrote that you're complaining about. To the other, you don't even know what you wrote.


PM didn't write anything. He copied and pasted a story.


So here's a nickel's worth of free advice for you, bigot: Get off the hate train. It's a dead-end ride.

Did you know that there are no trains in Uruguay?

Tiassa,

Ok, I guess you're right. I was looking for a more out and out it was wrong. You do say he should have been fired and then you mention Severin's stupidity, so I'll accept that.

Sorry to be a nitpicker.

Such statements by the radio presenter should have resulted in immediate dismissal. What he said was not only inflammatory, but also could result in the die hard fans out there who do not know right from wrong and who dote on every word to go out and commit the act. His comments added further instability to an already unstable relationship between the West and Muslims.

So here's a nickel's worth of free advice for you, bigot: Get off the hate train. It's a dead-end ride.
That advice should also apply to PM, don't you think? Especially seeing some of the statements he's been coming out with of late. In fact, it's advice that should apply to everyone.

Spurious

Where did I state that?

You know how many racists I know that apparently aren't racist because they are willing to make all sorts of excuses and not admit it's about race?

Likewise, your conduct belies any respect you might claim for Muslims.

I mean, look at your response. First of all you ask me which lines, then you play ignoramus--a convincing performance, at that--and now you go on to write,

PM didn't write anything. He copied and pasted a story.

First you ask about the lines he wrote, and then I tell you, and then you dodge the subject, and then you come back to reassert what is contradictory to what has been established.

What? You call that honest?

And yet you go so far as to admit that this is about what PM said in another topic.

Never mind that we put up with that kind of crap here in the West. Jeez, I thought holocaust revisionism was child's play, but apparently it's a tougher issue than I had given it credit for. I mean, seriously ... there's a topic in which nobody points out the confusion between the topic assertion regarding the Holocaust in general and the topic article's examination centering on the numbers at Auschwitz.

And never mind that we in the West comfortably mock the death tolls abroad, see no violence in starving folks in order to afford another yacht, ad nauseam.

If PM and Muslims in general piss you off as much as your leap to irrationality indicates, then don't you think it worth actually paying attention? Or are you just here to clutter up the board?

Bells

That advice should also apply to PM, don't you think?

To a certain extent. He still has a political out that he hasn't inherently disqualified.

To reconsider briefly a notion from the prior section:

In the West we mock the death tolls abroad. Now ... as tired as I am of listening to people hount the Jews, it's kind of hard to work around a couple of factors unique to Sciforums.

When PM makes it about all Jews and not just Israel ... well, hell, we've got pro-Israeli voices in countries not Israel making the same argument. It's just more acceptable, apparently, when a Jew makes Israel about all Jews than when a Muslim does.

The first part of the issue is that "all's fair." As an American, I claim what I believe to be the "high road." Sometimes, maintaining the "high road" requires some painful sacrifices.

We've let the obligations of the high road make the scenery unattractive. The result is a sharpening of traditional American hypocrisy.

• We mock death tolls abroad but lament our own
• In a nation that still argues in religious fits about morality and public policy, in a nation that has enough of a Christian voice to identify itself as such against Communism and Islam, in a nation that is at war because God told the evangelical-Chrsitian President to bomb Iraq--we actually respond to challenges as if we wanted to be Muslim. The irony, lost on most of my American neighbors, is not completely unnoticed in the world.
• We're willing to stoop to the gutter. Being right on those occasions that we are isn't enough. We have to proclaim it from the mountains until people resent our bratty boasting.

And all of this is accepted. It's so culturally-ingrained that we don't notice it. And yet we do it.

And then someone comes along and says all the same things we do with different names in the same places, and suddenly it's unfair?

The bottom line is that even if I were empowered to solve the situation with the wave of my hand, I can do nothign to solve it justly as long as Western attitudes remain. Muslims in the twenty-first century are going to have a hard enough time letting their daughters date and arguing with their sons about why they shouldn't have the car stereo up so loud.

And think of that. Think of how traumatic the last fifty years have been for the United States. We've modernized, grown, and gone insane. Guess what? Muslims get to go through that once the Arabic world stabilizes economically. And while it's nice to help folks avoid the pitfalls of our own paths, this is not well-accomplished by trapping a people in a bygone era.

As long as the Western faction at Sciforums (e.g. the majority) is entitled a certain degree of inherent or temporal bigotry, so it shall be for all not Western.

This can make it difficult to mark the line by, say, an Islamic perspective if you're, say, an American or Canadian or Australian moderator raised in the post-Christian or Judeo-Christian experience. But on the one hand I'm aware that we get away with what we complain about in PM largely because of cultural correspondences, and to the other I'm aware that it's all politics.

Sure, we're sensitive to certain things; the Holocaust bit seems to have incited some apoplexy around here. But I don't really care. Because we're insensate when it comes to how certain things feel to other people. Of course I'm tired of people bagging unnecessarily on the Jews. But what slays me about it is that the people most concerned with it can't seem to handle the situation at all. Child's play, I tells ya. Holocaust revisionism is as simple as hell to deal with. And yet how am I supposed to regard the intellects that simply panic at the first hint?

Of course the advice should apply to PM, and to everyone. Justice would be to move on and deal with real issues without hyperbole or pretense. In the meantime, however, since justice isn't due for a while, I'll buck for equality. PM is repugnant, the people say? Very well. I shall continue to grant him that license in my personal assessment as a poster as long as repugnant is the way of the walk.

The ongoing debate about Proud Muslim is not completely isolated in my opinion. I hold it against a backdrop of subtle and not-so-subtle anti-Islamism that has almost always been here. Before 9/11 it was a result of ignorance, and posters generally shied away from being too critical of things they hadn't studied. But starting right after 9/11, we've had to put up with a string of people calling for all sorts of barbarism against people who happen to be Muslims, and as this meshes reasonably with the conventional wisdom, it doens't really stick out in the same manner as, say, Holocaust revisionism.

But it's the same thing. And it's happening now, not fifty years ago. Jew-baiting is a bit like finding a guy who masturbates--you don't need to put much effort into it.

I'm starting to wonder if maybe we shouldn't actually go ahead and make Islam the enemy. People generally have more respect for their enemies than has been shown Islam in general around here. And suddenly people are disturbed because it's their preferred groups on the receiving end of it?

It's all horsesh@t. But I will not tolerate this situation whereby the only way people will pretend to be civilized or intelligent is if the Islamic voice either Westernizes completely or silences itself.

Seriously ... if anyone ever wants to know why 9/11 happened, just pay close attention to the national discourse. It's lowbrow, greedy, and threatening.

Terrorists hate liberty? Well, whatever. It's amazing how loosely we use the word "terrorist." I mean, apparently, resisting occupation by engaging a regular soldier is an act of terrorism. Oh, that's right. The war ended over a year ago.

By the same looseness, Americans hate life.

People can have whatever terms of discussion they want. But they need to be honest within those terms or else communication is impossible.

Now, I've already been asked in the last twenty-four hours why Americans should require a good reason before going to war. So as a general comment, anyone asking me to explain the metaphysical benefit of communication will only be serving as yet another explanation for the jets.

Invert Nexus

Well ... it is layered. But the irony--for me, at least--is that I actually used to communicate in a "diplomatic style." Friends have broken me of the habit of explicit and calculated condemnations.

Well, that and it's a particular issue I'm sensitive to right now. I really am curious about that bit in the Berg execution about the scholars and how the terrorists lament to Allah. It disturbs me that even my favorite political cartoonists are undertaking the lack-of-condemnation issue with the Muslim world without acknowledging obligations to not criticize a fellow Muslim, Islam and orthopraxy, and that diatribe preceding the Berg murder.

I'm convinced we have evidence of that condemnation people seek. It's just not so explicitly worded that Americans are satisfied. In the end, you're probably not nitpicking; I should be more sensitive to the general demand that everything be spelled out in bullet-list sound-bite McNuggets.

But life is performance art, and there's no reason I can't take more care to split the relevant conditions into two separate sentences instead of stacking the slam on the tail end. Rhythmic laziness, I guess.

We've modernized, grown, and gone insane. Guess what? Muslims get to go through that once the Arabic world stabilizes economically.

The Arabic world IS ECONOMICALLY STABLE. Much more stable than the West and the East. Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kuwait, etc. And look at their societies...still not showing any sign of reforming their barbaric preferences.

By the way, I DENOUNCE THAT RADIO ANOUNCER. What he said is no joke. It is suggestive of hatred for fellow human beings. I have good muslim friends. Jeehan. Ahmed. Ased. I wish the best for them. To hell with the person who wants to kill all muslims. :mad:

I just reread the original post. I originally saw Washington DC, but that's just where the story came from. The guy is from Boston. That doesn't surprise me. I've never been there, but I've heard that Boston is one of the most racist cities in the USA.

I think any culture that believes striking somones image with a shoe is an insult should be feared and respected lol

I'm starting to wonder if maybe we shouldn't actually go ahead and make Islam the enemy. People generally have more respect for their enemies than has been shown Islam in general around here. And suddenly people are disturbed because it's their preferred groups on the receiving end of it?

What irks me is HOW Islamists fight in debates.

• Taking statements (religious or whatever) out of context.
• Using Isolated cases to generalize the whole.
• Using a thousand year old occurrence to condemn the present generations.
• Argumentum Ad Hominem
• Appeals to Authority
Etc.


Seriously ... if anyone ever wants to know why 9/11 happened, just pay close attention to the national discourse. It's lowbrow, greedy, and threatening.

I think most people here know the “why”. And why it could never be justifiable.


Terrorists hate liberty? Well, whatever.

Muslim terrorists do hate liberty. They hate religious liberty of all things.


It's amazing how loosely we use the word "terrorist." I mean, apparently, resisting occupation by engaging a regular soldier is an act of terrorism. Oh, that's right. The war ended over a year ago.

By the same looseness, Americans hate life.

I don’t see the connection between loosely using the word “terrorist” and loosely “hating life”. Maybe what you mean is loosely hating enemies. Not hating life.




I'm convinced we have evidence of that condemnation people seek. It's just not so explicitly worded that Americans are satisfied.

That’s what you call “elusiveness”. And people do that for a reason. Or when they are pressured into doing something they don’t agree on.

If racism is FREE SPEECH, then to hell with your free speech.

It's free speech that grants YOU the ability to say this. It's free speech that
lets you be your 'Shield of Islam' on SciForums.

Anyhow, I feel obligated to correct your definition error of:

RACISM IS FREE SPEECH

Racism is a belief that race accounts for differences in human character or
ability and that a particular race is superior to others. It frequently leads to
Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Free speech may be utilized as a verbal expression of Racism; however,
it is not limited to this; hence, your equality assertion is simply incorrect.

I'm from Boston and am in an interracial relationship as is my brother and have biracial family members. There is little to no racism that we've ever experienced and Jay Severin is mainly sarcastic and appeals to the extreme right wing of which there is not a lot in Massachusetts. He is the only local conservative radio host of which I am aware. (Gore won this state by 70% in 2000. Should've listened to us.) Recently, some white supremacists tried handing out literature around my neighborhood and were run out of town. Their hate literature denigrated everyone who was non-white and non-Christian. Apparently Jesus was Anglo-Saxon and I missed that in Sunday school! The papers carried a story about how people had refused to let them plant their filth in our midst.

I don't know where anyone has heard that Boston is a racist city since it is the home of the Birkenstock wearing crowd at Cambridge and Harvard. We jokingly refer to ourselves as The People's Socialist Republic of Massachusetts.

What no one mentions is that the day this story came out there was a huge uproar and protest and he had to formally apologize. The host in question claims the statement was taken out of context, but others have been dismissed for less and many people here were upset when he wasn't. He has apparently calmed down.

Of course it was a stupid and offensive and wrong thing to say, but a radio host the other day said "Women. You can't live with them, you can't kill'em" which caused another uproar but the host wasn't dismissed. I don't think it's necessarily against Muslims so much as an indication of lowering standards. I'm sure Jay Severin has been put on notice, though.

Racism is not the right term for hating muslims. A muslim is not a race.

there is a restriction on free speech when it is..."directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action." (brandenburg v. ohio, 395 u.s. 444 - 1969)

as to whether it applies to the statment in question is not clear to me. "kill all muslims" does seem to have the potential to incite violence given the current climate in this country

when minnesota tried to regulate speach that "cause anger, alarm or resentment in others on the basis of race, color, creed, religion or gender. . . .", it was found unconstitutional (r.a.v. v. cCity of st. paul, 505 u.s. 377 - 1992)

that does seem rather vague in the sense that the emotions outlined seems open to interpretation depending on one's subjective state

have there been any subsequent rulings by the supreme court regarding this issue?

behead all the opportunistic and parasitic white pigs that prey on on my arab brothers and sisters. off with all their heads!

i truly love to incite violence against the invaders. they have raped, tortured and murdered millions in the homeland. they deserve nothing but the most horrible of fates.

do not turn the other cheek. i demand revenge for our fallen brethren

If I compare this statement with the statement of some of the Muslim extremists that 'Kill All Americans', it seems that it is only a simple reply to those extremists.

Every human life is important. Religion, Country, Race, etc are only excuses for killing people. The truth is that some people are completely insane, they should be placed in mental institutions. They are a disease for the society!

KILL BIN LADEN! KILL BIN LADEN! KILL BIN LADEN!

Hows that? :D

Spurious You know how many racists I know that apparently aren't racist because they are willing to make all sorts of excuses and not admit it's about race?

bla bla


Honestly I can't take anything seriously from someone who told me that it would be better that I kill myself.

Honestly I can't take anything seriously from someone who told me that it would be better that I kill myself.That's a good excuse--illiteracy. :rolleyes:

Really, Spurious, honesty won't kill you.

Why don't you go back and cite for me the line about you killing yourself. With a link.

Go on, be a sport. After all, if you're going to whine and moan about it, I'm sure you're ready to cite the incident.

Or are you done being a petty hater and ready to have a discussion?

there is a restriction on free speech when it is..."directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action." (brandenburg v. ohio, 395 u.s. 444 - 1969)

as to whether it applies to the statment in question is not clear to me. "kill all muslims" does seem to have the potential to incite violence given the current climate in this country

when minnesota tried to regulate speach that "cause anger, alarm or resentment in others on the basis of race, color, creed, religion or gender. . . .", it was found unconstitutional (r.a.v. v. cCity of st. paul, 505 u.s. 377 - 1992)

that does seem rather vague in the sense that the emotions outlined seems open to interpretation depending on one's subjective state

have there been any subsequent rulings by the supreme court regarding this issue?

Not that I am aware of. Howard Stern would probably be a good judge of where that line is that can't be crossed (as it's a moving target).

behead all the opportunistic and parasitic white pigs that prey on on my arab brothers and sisters. off with all their heads!

i truly love to incite violence against the invaders. they have raped, tortured and murdered millions in the homeland. they deserve nothing but the most horrible of fates.

do not turn the other cheek. i demand revenge for our fallen brethren

And don't forget to supersize that order.

That's a good excuse--illiteracy. :rolleyes:

Really, Spurious, honesty won't kill you.

Why don't you go back and cite for me the line about you killing yourself. With a link.

Go on, be a sport. After all, if you're going to whine and moan about it, I'm sure you're ready to cite the incident.

Or are you done being a petty hater and ready to have a discussion?


Look it up yourself. I'm not your servant.

Another discussion about nothing. What a surprise.

Look it up yourself. I'm not your servant.

I knew you couldn't substantiate the accusation. You really should stop with the lying.

Another discussion about nothing. What a surprise.

You get what you ask for.

I mean, hey ... anything is better than opposing unwarranted hatred, eh? Especially against Muslims?

Whatever you say, Spurious. Whatever the hell you say.

:rolleyes:

I knew you couldn't substantiate the accusation. You really should stop with the lying.


Believe what you want to believe. Many people have seen it.

Believe what you want to believe. Many people have seen it.

I saw it. There's a link to it in that thread about Lou I think.

EDIT:

I couldn't find the link but I found it quoted:

Originally posted by Lord of the Asshats
You may not give a rat's behind about the environment you post in, but some of us do. You're welcome to be lazy, apathetic, and a complete jerk, but you'd better serve humanity by simply sticking a shotgun in your mouth and doing the right thing.

Get over yourself, Monkey man. Get a grip, buy a clue.

are you done being a petty hater?

That shit is RICH.

:bugeye:

"You may not give a rat's behind about the environment you post in, but some of us do."

It's funny how your values trump the values of others. You hate people for what they want because it isn't what you want, you goddamned lying dirtbag hater.

do not turn the other cheek. i demand revenge for our fallen brethren
And thats why the world shall never see peace.

Believe what you want to believe. Many people have seen it. Yep. And you never want to actually represent the situation honestly. Keep it up, Spurious. You're making it very obvious.

No link? Keep trying, boys.

spuriousmonkey, you sound even younger then me.

Yep. And you never want to actually represent the situation honestly. Keep it up, Spurious. You're making it very obvious.

No link? Keep trying, boys.


I guess the structure of the feedback section changed and maybe this stuff got deleted. And you are aware of this. Which makes this even worse I would say. But we both know you said it.

end of discussion.

Since time began every country has been taking the piss out of other countries. For us English, it's usually the Irish or French, or Pakistanis. Further to that there's so many 'jokes' about killing all lawyers or estate agents, and one million other jokes that could be deemed offensive..

But no.. none of you say shit about that - it's only when it's something said about a muslim you all start turning into pussies. It's seemingly like you're all scared you're gonna get bombed or something.

I believe in a mans total right to freedom of speech, and total right to hate whoever he wants, be it "dumb blondes", a rival football team, or any particular country.

When someone says a similar line about a Frenchman or Irishman, everyone laughs, (and so on), but anyone dares say one word about the muslims and everyone goes schitzo..

Of course the press is just as guilty of it's over-sympathy of muslims, especially during the recent problems. The photos of apparent US military abuse of Iraqis has taken up page after page of newspaper while the Nick Berg "beheading", (which is a completely null and void term if you've not actually seen the video - the guy was chopped up like a sunday roast), only took up one column with one small picture in the majority of large American newspapers. In fact, the Globe and the Mail reserved the biggest headline to "oil at $40 worsens the pain".

Of course, if they'd feel better about people liking them- it would be a notable suggestion that they stop piling into my country for free handouts as if England is a giant charity shop. That only creates animosity - which you can see by their own statements. They don't want westerners in their country, and we don't want them in ours. How about everyone goes back to their own country and then we're all happy? Of course it will never happen with the media and population overrun with cowards.

[center] Proud Muslim

I would recommend that you make the concession of cutting the length of your citations. This will help make it more apparent when people go out of their way to call a thread something it's not.

Point taken, thanks.


In General

"It is very interesting that so far those who responded did not condemn what this Radio host said."

On the one hand I would be disappointed in the lack of condemnation. But, as an American, I'm live in a nation that is so hung up on identity politics that my neighbors by and large won't be happy until Muslims stop being Muslims.

To the other, I'm also aware that both "land of the free" and "home of the brave" are reasonably sickening jokes about the United States right now. So the cowardice of the response is right on par with what Americans seem determined to stand for.

very well said ! I am sure the reaction would be ver different if this radio host said KILL ALL JEWS !!! :rolleyes:

Proud Muslim,
Now, are there any muslim radio or tv personalities who have said "Kill all Americans" that you might wish to apologize for? Since we must apologize for our idiots, it is only fair that you apologize for yours.

Sure, show me some Muslim idiots who said kill all Americans and I will condemn them outright.

I invite you to come to our Muslim rooms on www.paltalk.com ( the social issues section ) I am well known there for standing up and condeming my own muslim brothers who make such hateful statements.

Bells

As long as the Western faction at Sciforums (e.g. the majority) is entitled a certain degree of inherent or temporal bigotry, so it shall be for all not Western.

You are always amazing in your observation !! the westerners here have this disease of self-rightousness, apparently, they view themselves as superior over Muslims despite the fact that their own bigotry put them down the drain.

Sure, we're sensitive to certain things; the Holocaust bit seems to have incited some apoplexy around here. But I don't really care. Because we're insensate when it comes to how certain things feel to other people.

EXCACTLY !! why the hell should I care about the holocaust when my own people are being '' holocausted'' by the jews ??? why should I care about somthing not me NOT EVEN MY FATHER had anything to do with it ???

Why the world dont talk about OTHER HOLOCAUSTS ? like the holocaust against Muslims in BOSNIA or the holocaust in Rawanda which claimed 1 million lives !! why only the jewish holocaust ?? I AM SICK AND TIRED FROM THIS NONESENSE, EVERYTIME YOU CRITICIZE THE JEWS AND THEIR ACTIONS IN PALESTINE, YOU WILL BE REMINDED OF THE HOLOCAUST !! as if the holocaust some sort of moral balance ( it is ok for the jews to kill thousands of palestineans because they suffered terrible holocaust ) !

In some countries ( like Germany ), it is ok to deny god existence but you will be behind bars for denying the holocaust !! can you imagine ?? PATHETIC !

More than half a century have passed since the Jewish holocaust, isnt the time to MOVE ON ???

Of course the advice should apply to PM, and to everyone. Justice would be to move on and deal with real issues without hyperbole or pretense. In the meantime, however, since justice isn't due for a while, I'll buck for equality. PM is repugnant, the people say? Very well. I shall continue to grant him that license in my personal assessment as a poster as long as repugnant is the way of the walk.

People are not here to learn, they cant be wrong, their attack on Islam and Muslims must be always justified ( the self righoutsness disease ) so when a muslim exposes them and make NAKED their hatred and bigotry, they will turn against him.

The ongoing debate about Proud Muslim is not completely isolated in my opinion. I hold it against a backdrop of subtle and not-so-subtle anti-Islamism that has almost always been here.

Indeed, they even wanted to ban me !! ban me for what ? if the owner of this forum allow all sort of hate against muslims under FREE SPEECH, why should not I enjoy the same rights ( despite the fact that I dont hate anyone, I only hate those who hate Islam and Muslims ) !

Before 9/11 it was a result of ignorance, and posters generally shied away from being too critical of things they hadn't studied. But starting right after 9/11, we've had to put up with a string of people calling for all sorts of barbarism against people who happen to be Muslims, and as this meshes reasonably with the conventional wisdom, it doens't really stick out in the same manner as, say, Holocaust revisionism.

Well said !! when christians kill muslims in Nigeria, posters here rush to find an excuses for those christians, but when Muslims kill, it is ISLAM !! how pathetic !

I'm starting to wonder if maybe we shouldn't actually go ahead and make Islam the enemy. People generally have more respect for their enemies than has been shown Islam in general around here. And suddenly people are disturbed because it's their preferred groups on the receiving end of it?

But muslims dont want to make the west their enemy, we want to live in peace with others, but others dont want that ( invading muslim lands and bombing and killing thousands of Muslims ! )

despite the fact that I dont hate anyone, I only hate those who hate Islam and Muslims
Um.. yeah... I don't know if you really don't hate anyone here, but you certainly act as if you hate absolutely every single person who does agree with you here.

But muslims dont want to make the west their enemy, we want to live in peace with others, but others dont want that ( invading muslim lands and bombing and killing thousands of Muslims ! )
I have read many threads and posts by you, and it seems to me that you are always the one who is the most directly offensive to other religions and beliefs, it seems to me that you are always trying to start an intense argument, and it seems to me that you are the one who does not want to live in peace with others, at least in here.

(and yeah, :p don't get mad at me, I am only a non-religious average guy.:) :D )

I guess the structure of the feedback section changed and maybe this stuff got deleted. And you are aware of this. Which makes this even worse I would say. But we both know you said it.

It's not an issue of whether or not I said something. Wes has quoted it.

But it only took about six seconds to find - (click me (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=33365))

So ... I'm aware of what? What makes what worse?

Dr. No

What irks me is HOW Islamists fight in debates.

• Taking statements (religious or whatever) out of context.
• Using Isolated cases to generalize the whole.
• Using a thousand year old occurrence to condemn the present generations.
• Argumentum Ad Hominem
• Appeals to Authority
Etc.


I find it a bit irritating, too. But I don't find it much different from American politics inasmuch as you've documented those particular points. I'm sure we could probably find something under "etc." to disagree about, but I can't say there's a whole lot of difference between the five bulleted points and political methodology in the U.S.

I think most people here know the “why”. And why it could never be justifiable.

Justifiable is a separate issue from the why. I agree, it's unjustifiable. But I'm aware of the general concept of what pisses people off about the U.S. to take swings at it.

Muslim terrorists do hate liberty. They hate religious liberty of all things.

Admittedly, some people define liberty differently. Some of it is the difference in the weight of communal and individual identities.

Hell, there's a Christian church in downtown Seattle that used to advertise, "Liberty is not the freedom to do what you will, but the freedom to do what God says is right."

I don’t see the connection between loosely using the word “terrorist” and loosely “hating life”. Maybe what you mean is loosely hating enemies. Not hating life.

Given a choice between public health and the growth of industry, Americans end up choosing growth of industry. It is the prevailing ideology, though it's a tougher sell to claim it the majority. Small communities go down kicking and screaming.

But we're willing to spend human life rather liberally.

That’s what you call “elusiveness”. And people do that for a reason. Or when they are pressured into doing something they don’t agree on.

Not everybody is as simple as your imagination. I mean, as you imagine. Er ....

Something like that.

It may demonstrate the problems of orthopraxy, but it's only elusiveness if we presume Muslims to think exactly as Westerners do. Blanket assignations are dangerous in general, as we all know, but that one would be particularly irresponsible.

Um.. yeah... I don't know if you really don't hate anyone here, but you certainly act as if you hate absolutely every single person who does agree with you here.

You can disagree but you cant hate and bash, to disagree is one thing, to hate is another, I hate those who hate not those who disagree in civilized way.

I have read many threads and posts by you, and it seems to me that you are always the one who is the most directly offensive to other religions and beliefs,

Can you show me where I said christianity is evil ? can you show me where I said Judaism is evil ? can you show me where I said Buddhism is evil ??? :rolleyes:

it seems to me that you are always trying to start an intense argument, and it seems to me that you are the one who does not want to live in peace with others, at least in here.

It seems to me that you are very confused and you dont know what's going on here, it is the haters who come and argue with me IN MY OWN THREADS not the other way around.

(and yeah, don't get mad at me, I am only a non-religious average guy.)

Dont worry, I want you to be FAIR, can you do it ?

It's not an issue of whether or not I said something. Wes has quoted it.

But it only took about six seconds to find - (click me (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=33365))

So ... I'm aware of what? What makes what worse?

let me get this straight.

You first deny that you ever said it. And call me basically a liar. Then wesmorris confirms that you said. Then I can't be bothered to find out where you said it exaclty. Then you find out where you said the thing you supposed not to have said and blame me for not looking enough for it?

Are you insane?

You first deny that you ever said it. And call me basically a liar. Then wesmorris confirms that you said. Then I can't be bothered to find out where you said it exaclty. Then you find out where you said the thing you supposed not to have said and blame me for not looking enough for it?

Look, Spurious ... my only point is that if anyone goes to the topic and looks it up, they'll see what I told you then. And they might find it rather laughable that the one thing that hasn't apparently occurred to you is to cease going out of your way to be apathetic, lazy, and intentionally detrimental.

The rest is your own damn problem.

However, in the meantime, before you go implying some sort of impropriety as you did, you ought to at least make sure it's not there:


I guess the structure of the feedback section changed and maybe this stuff got deleted. And you are aware of this. Which makes this even worse I would say. But we both know you said it.

end of discussion.

You're such a dishonest little monkey.

Are you insane?

Nope, I'm simply aware of reality, and that includes your cheap provocateurism.

You're repeatedly inaccurate, and now you're even moralizing based on those inaccuracies.

I mean, if you had left it at being unable to find it, I might have left you to that illusion. But no, you had to go wag your finger over a moral outrage that wasn't.

Good show.

:rolleyes:

Oh feel the love here. :rolleyes:

Veritable lovefest... :eek:

let me get this straight.

You first deny that you ever said it. And call me basically a liar. Then wesmorris confirms that you said. Then I can't be bothered to find out where you said it exaclty. Then you find out where you said the thing you supposed not to have said and blame me for not looking enough for it?

Are you insane?

You are the insane one, you cant have 1% of Tiassa's intelligence. propably he did not mean what he said and that is why he forgot it in the first place, it only shows his clean pure heart not like you, a filthy hater.

You are the insane one, you cant have 1% of Tiassa's intelligence. propably he did not mean what he said and that is why he forgot it in the first place, it only shows his clean pure heart not like you, a filthy hater.

Being apologetic for something that you don't get, and then insulting the intelligence of someone who is obviously significantly more intelligent than you, calling him a hater (without even attempting to demonstrate it) in the same thread that you have demonstrated that indeed, you are a staunch hater of jews, like most muslims (because you're raised in a culture of jew hating)(note that you don't say "the israeli government's policies and actions are hurting my family" you say "the JEWS are hurting my family").

That people defend you is freakin astounding to me, as you are simply transparent, shallow and programmed. I suppose the people who jump to your defense must be, as far as I can tell... haters just like you. (oh and note that to most people, you're like a clown, like a buffoon for their entertainment)

Bitches.

Being apologetic for something that you don't get, and then insulting the intelligence of someone who is obviously significantly more intelligent than you, calling him a hater (without even attempting to demonstrate it) in the same thread that you have demonstrated that indeed, you are a staunch hater of jews,

Being an ass for some hater, being a puppet for someone who displayed increadible hate towad muslims, being this make you less than human, in fact, makes you animal.

like most muslims (because you're raised in a culture of jew hating)(note that you don't say "the israeli government's policies and actions are hurting my family" you say "the JEWS are hurting my family").

When the Jews themselves make Israel a JEWISH issue it is ok, but when Muslims make Israel a jewish issue, it is not ok !! go fuck yourself.

That people defend you is freakin astounding to me, as you are simply transparent, shallow and programmed.

What about you ? uncircumcized animal !!

I suppose the people who jump to your defense must be, as far as I can tell... haters just like you. (oh and note that to most people, you're like a clown, like a buffoon for their entertainment)

Bitches.

And I suppose the people who socialize with you are drug dealers just like you.

Underworld dark satan.

You're such a dishonest little monkey.


You are weird my friend. I was too lazy too look up where you (A MODERATOR) told me the world would be a better place if I put a shotgun in my mouth. You then look up this thread in a second because apparently you are obsessed with these things and know from memory where all your petty arguments are located. And you blame me for being lazy and calling me dishonest.

honestly...get a grip on life because this is bordering on being over the edge.

like most muslims (because you're raised in a culture of jew hating)(note that you don't say "the israeli government's policies and actions are hurting my family" you say "the JEWS are hurting my family").

When the Jews themselves make Israel a JEWISH issue it is ok, but when Muslims make Israel a jewish issue, it is not ok !! go fuck yourself.

LOL! That is the first time ive seen PM use the F word.



What about you ? uncircumcized animal !!

And I suppose the people who socialize with you are drug dealers just like you.

Underworld dark satan.

I wonder what the other guy did to deserve such abusive remarks. hmmm....

Being an ass for some hater

FACT: Spurious has a brain and as far as I can tell, hates you because you're an asshat. The fact that you are muslim is just your crutch.

, being a puppet for someone who displayed increadible hate towad muslims,
You and your master seem to have a problem with differentiating between hate for the individual and hate for a group. It's funny that your disgusting self-importance raises disgust for you to the level of the entire muslim community. The muslims I know would find you an embarassment if they were to care that you were associated with their religion. I doubt however, that your random affiliation with whatever religion would sway them in any manner and the fact would still remain that you're a disturbed, moronic hater of all that isn't muslim.

being this make you less than human, in fact, makes you animal.
Indeed in the eyes of a hater his "enemies" are less than human. I do not like you, does that make me your enemy? Looks like your rhetoric says yes.

When the Jews themselves make Israel a JEWISH issue it is ok, but when Muslims make Israel a jewish issue, it is not ok !!
LOL. I don't see any jews here making any issues. If they did what you do to them I'd criticize them the same.

go fuck yourself.
I can feel the love.

What about you ? uncircumcized animal !!
What do you know about my cock? What if I'm circumcized? Am I not an animal then?

And I suppose the people who socialize with you are drug dealers just like you.
Drug dealer? LOL. Where the hell does that come from?
Underworld dark satan.

Please re-read your post with consideration to where the hate is coming from eh?

LOL.

LMAO! I just saw the 'Underworld dark satan' comment. Shit I laughed so hard coffee came out of my nose. :D

Was painful. :mad:

Please re-read your post with consideration to where the hate is coming from eh?

LOL.

Or perhaps you should go and take a shower and watch the water coming from your body !! it will be black water because it is filled with hate.

:D

I was too lazy too look up where you (A MODERATOR) told me the world would be a better place if I put a shotgun in my mouth. No, you weren't. You were just afraid to because you knew from the outset when you raised the issue in order to avoid the point of your ongoing provocateurism that you were misrepresenting it.

I still think it's hilarious that the option of not making an effort to be a jerk isn't even on your radar.

Oh, well, whatever gets you off.You then look up this thread in a second because apparently you are obsessed with these things and know from memory where all your petty arguments are located. And you blame me for being lazy and calling me dishonest.You are lazy and dishonest.

It's called Google (http://www.google.com/search?q=spuriousmonkey+wesmorris+tiassa+shotgun&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8), Spurious, and it's real easy to use. Click the link, look at the search terms, look at the search result.

Six seconds. That's all it took.

And I still stand by the advice, so much so that I will reiterate it here:

• You may not give a rat's behind about the environment you post in, but some of us do. You're welcome to be lazy, apathetic, and a complete jerk, but you'd better serve humanity by simply sticking a shotgun in your mouth and doing the right thing.

It applies as much today in this topic as it did at the time that I offered you the advice the first time. You have just as little respect for reality and just as much desire to incite discord among people.

Consider your contributions to life and ask yourself why you actually waste your time lying to people at a goddamn discussion board in order to derail other people's discussions. You know, lots of people might wonder about us here at Sciforums, and the amount of time we spend communicating or failing to communicate with one another, but it really does seem rather odd when proving to the rest of us that you have nothing to say becomes such an obsession as it has.

All I ever did was disagree with your complaint. You're the one who has chosen to make an issue out of it.

Be honest with yourself about yourself for once Spurious, and you might find it so simple, invigorating, and refreshing that you'll want to try it again.

FACT: Spurious has a brain and as far as I can tell, hates you because you're an asshat. The fact that you are muslim is just your crutch.

So now you are monkey's adovcat ? what a lovely combination ? :D

The muslims I know would find you an embarassment if they were to care that you were associated with their religion. I doubt however, that your random affiliation with whatever religion would sway them in any manner and the fact would still remain that you're a disturbed, moronic hater of all that isn't muslim.

''Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.''

Richard M. Nixon (1913 - 1994), in his White House farewell

Nah, I wont hate you in return, you are too cheap to deserve my hate.

Indeed in the eyes of a hater his "enemies" are less than human. I do not like you, does that make me your enemy? Looks like your rhetoric says yes.

Yes, you are less than a human because humans have heart and brain, they can see the injustice and do something about it, what you do is just rant and insult, typical hater.

LOL. I don't see any jews here making any issues. If they did what you do to them I'd criticize them the same.

So if you dont see any jews, does that mean jews dont exist ?? :rolleyes:

I can feel the love.

from you back??? :D

What do you know about my cock? What if I'm circumcized? Am I not an animal then?

I am sure you are not circumcized otherwise you wont be screaming out of pain here on sciforums !!

Drug dealer? LOL. Where the hell does that come from?

You writtings indicate drug dealers style, drug dealers like you view the world from a GANG perspective, they gang with like minded criminals, this is exactly what you did by ganing with the retard monkey.

Please re-read your post with consideration to where the hate is coming from eh?

Exactly, this is the question, where the hate is coming from ? look at the mirror and ask yourself this question.

You and your master are two despicable, hating, deluded pees in a pod, PM. Oxygen theives, the both of you.

You're not even worthy of being called chicken-shit, you sloppy piece of newly hatched chicklet diarrhea. :D

You're not even worthy of being called chicken-shit, you sloppy piece of newly hatched chicklet diarrhea. :D

LOL. Okay then. Thanks.

You are very welcome.

''Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.''

Richard M. Nixon (1913 - 1994), in his White House farewell

You do realize that Nixon was xenophobic, paranoid psychopath, don't you? Usually not the best guy to quote if you want to be taken seriously. Of course, I suppose he was definitely an expert on hating and being hated. But you can tell from this quote that he is trying to pretend that he doesn't hate those who hate him. I'd call that a lie. Nixon was one of the most hateful people of the 20th century. He hated everybody, including himself. And he needed others to hate him to feed his paranoid fantasies.

"You won't have Nixon to kick around anymore."

LOL. Good point IN. Oh man yeah see I thought something like that but wasn't so sure. That's a well stated point there. LOL.

You do realize that Nixon was xenophobic, paranoid psychopath, don't you? Usually not the best guy to quote if you want to be taken seriously. Of course, I suppose he was definitely an expert on hating and being hated.

This why I quoted him, because he was a big hater, I am trying to give wes something from his own nature to understand.

Fair enough.

LOL. Uh huh. You know what's weird is that it seems that only the paranoid schizophrenic asshats see me as a hater. You and your master fit the bill. Weird huh? I think that you think I'm a hater because I hate tiassa, and you are in love with him. You are too stupid for me to hate. Tiassa is not stupid. He's just a cunt, a dirty, disgusting, smarmy cunt. You're just a fool, but you are in love that dirty cunt and so since I think you're stupid and he's a cunt (whom I loath), I must be a "hater".

I do hate some stuff, like I dunno, bad stuff. Like when baby is raped and killed, or tiassa attempts to communicate with the other humans and then blames them because he's a cunt. I suppose if you want to label me a "hater" and an "animal" based on that shit, I would suggest you don't come within the length of my chain. Since I'm just a pathetic animal, I might get territorial and bite you.

Hey wait. Animals don't hate.

Which is it then?

Fair enough.

What?

LOL. His retort is an obvious attempt to regroup from his stupidity.

The words that were quoted were not necessarily paranoid, so how is that telling me something that I'll understand? Because Nixon said it, that will all of the sudden change the words to mean something different?

It was a good point that those words were from one of the most hateful people ever because he was accusing me of hating and quoting the words of a hater to do it. The words that were chosen however, aren't hateful - so PM's attempt to evade his own stupidity is transparent and inneffective.

"FACT: Spurious has a brain and as far as I can tell, hates you because you're an asshat. The fact that you are muslim is just your crutch"

LOL!!!! that is the greatest word ever, hehe, asshat

*giggles*, im gonna get strange looks from that, and so ill give this post some point

someone earlier said that if you talk about killing the English or whoever, its funny, but if you talk about killing Muslims its racist, i agree with that

also, i gotta join in with the insulting of the phrase "Underworld dark satan"

is the Underworld dark satan the brother of the underworld light satan? whose neighbour is the underworld dark angel???

i dont think all three of the words underworld, dark and satan were needed, maybe just one

hehe, asshat

ill go now

ill go now

Ok, go now !! :D

Let me just state for the record that I am going to ignore Tiassa in this discussion from now on, since he fails to see what is immoral (failure google vs. telling someone to kill himself) and furthermore this little diatribe is not on topic.

someone earlier said that if you talk about killing the English or whoever, its funny, but if you talk about killing Muslims its racist, i agree with that
If somebody is seriously suggesting killing the english then they would lose their job(unless they was in the government and talking about starting a war) and it would be offensive, same with the muslim comment it would be offensive, if its a joke, both are funny, there isnt really a difference, in fact muslims arnt a race so in theory the english comment would be racist, the muslim comment would be anti-islam, both would be wrong if meant seriously though some people may see it as absurd to say kill the english and find it funny, it depends on the context of whats said and the view of whoever hears it.

Let me just state for the record that I am going to ignore Tiassa in this discussion from now on, since he fails to see what is immoral (failure google vs. telling someone to kill himself) and furthermore this little diatribe is not on topic.

Let me also state for the record that I am going to ignore YOU in all discussions from now on since you failed to see how hateful and how bigot you are.

Thank allah for that.

Being an ass for some hater, being a puppet for someone who displayed increadible hate towad muslims, being this make you less than human, in fact, makes you animal.



When the Jews themselves make Israel a JEWISH issue it is ok, but when Muslims make Israel a jewish issue, it is not ok !! go fuck yourself.



What about you ? uncircumcized animal !!



And I suppose the people who socialize with you are drug dealers just like you.

Underworld dark satan.

Wow, I can feel your intense hate Proud Syrian... er Muslim. Good job!

And prate and preach about what others prove, As if the world and they were hand and glove. !! :rolleyes:

William Cowper

And prate and preach about what others prove, As if the world and they were hand and glove. !! :rolleyes:

William Cowper
Tastes Great... Less Filling

Budwiser

PM, did you recently discover the quotation archive, or what?

Instead of getting my usual helping of your brand of flimflam, I'm now privileged with the rhetorical hokum of Nixon and Herodotus.

Thank you very much.

"If somebody is seriously suggesting killing the english then they would lose their job(unless they was in the government and talking about starting a war) and it would be offensive, same with the muslim comment it would be offensive, if its a joke, both are funny, there isnt really a difference, in fact muslims arnt a race so in theory the english comment would be racist, the muslim comment would be anti-islam, both would be wrong if meant seriously though some people may see it as absurd to say kill the english and find it funny, it depends on the context of whats said and the view of whoever hears it."

the diff is, the Englsish would not get offended by someone joking to kill them, PM couldnt take a joke, and therefore this topic was started

the diff is, the Englsish would not get offended by someone joking to kill them, PM couldnt take a joke, and therefore this topic was started
Correct, they would not be offended at all, but of course if it was serious they would be which is why PM is so annoyed. I havnt heard the radioman say what PM is so annoyed with so i cant say if he meant it as a joke or not, all i have is the words(without him saying them and the context they are fairly meaningless), i take it to mean a joke, PM takes it seriously, go figure.

“Fair enough.”

What?

LOL. His retort is an obvious attempt to regroup from his stupidity.

I know. I'm sorry, man, I took the cheap way out. I didn't mean to insinuate that I agreed with him. Just that he has a right to his opinion, I guess. I just don't have the heart to keep banging my head on a wall. And I think that's it's fairly obvious that that's how all these threads end up. Frankly, I have stopped peeking in this forum much lately. It's getting rather tiresome in here. I should have just left it at my original post. I don't know why I posted the second time. Apologies. I didn't mean to leave you in a lurch or anything. I figured you'd have the will to keep up the fight.

Not a problem, no worries and i didn't think poorly of you for it. I just thought I'd straighten it out.

hey everyone!!!

arent wes and invert a cute couple??? :D

We are not alone. You too will be assimilated.

hey everyone!!!

arent wes and invert a cute couple??? :D

It's more than a couple. Rappa assimilated himself. Coffee followed and assimilated Invert as well.

Resistance is futile.

We shuck and jive in unison. We are Wes.

We are not alone. You too will be assimilated.
Heh, and give all the net geeks nightmares since the Wes look is not what they thought 7 of 9 would look like up close. ;)

Perhaps then, we should assimilate a female.

The hive agrees.

Assimilation is imminent.

"Yabba dabba doo"

Fred Flinstone

I thought I'd already been assimilated?:confused: Doesn't my pic show..... ermm oopsy..

Just kidding.. couldn't resist it..
:D :D

Most muslims think Israel should not exist. The United States of America will bomb the crap out of anyone who tries to destroy them. Thank god for George Bush.

Osama is alive.

You're doin' a heck of a job, Georgie.

Most muslims think Israel should not exist. The United States of America will bomb the crap out of anyone who tries to destroy them. Thank god for George Bush.
Uneducated, pus-spewing vitriolic hate bag. Die.