Kidney stones

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  1. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    suck so bad


    arrrghh :bawl:
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    How are kidney stones treated?
    Most stones can be treated with increased fluid intake, changes in diet and medication. About 90 percent of stones will pass by themselves within three to six weeks. Certain types of stones may sometimes be dissolved using medications; however, calcium-containing stones (the most common type in the U.S.) cannot be dissolved.

    Stones should always be removed when infection, obstruction or kidney damage are present. When removal becomes necessary, several different methods are available. The best method for you depends on the size, location and type of stone. Some stones are removed by passing a telescopic instrument into the bladder or into the ureters--tubes that connect the bladder and kidneys--to pull the stones out or to break them into small fragments with shock waves or laser beams. Or a telescopic instrument may be inserted directly into the kidney through a small slit made in the patient's side to pull the stone out whole or break it down into small fragments.

    The newest method of stone removal is called extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy (ESWL). In this technique, stones are broken down into small fragments by high energy shock waves from a device outside the body.

    Can kidney stones be prevented?
    Yes, treatments that can prevent kidney stones from forming are possible in many cases. Strong evidence suggests that a high fluid intake may decrease the risk of stones. In addition, once the cause of the stone is found, medications or changes in diet may be used to help prevent new stones. The type of medication used is based on blood and urine tests.

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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    Actually with a simple shockwave machine they are so easy to break apart. You just go to go abroad to use it, dont pay for the medicare in USA, you will loose money. Go to Russia for example, its very cheap there (but not in Moscow). Extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy is the full name of it.
     
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  7. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    right now.... it's not doing me much good.. if this gets much worse ..i got to head to the va

    the x killed my insurance
     
  8. draqon Banned Banned

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    like I said, you will be better off going abroad and doing this, instead of doing the procedure of shock waves here in USA.
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    To fly to Europe is going to cost over 1500.00 US plus the hotel room and whatever the cost of the operation is. That's going to be allot of money for anyone. Today , in the USA, there are free hospitals located in many large American cities that will do operations for free or on a sliding scale. So no need to fly overseas, just find the hospital nearby that can help you.
     
  10. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    after playing the interstate medical two step.. I might be getting some pain meds to at least tide me over till I can see the doc here tomorrow.. jeez

    guess the x didn't kill the insurance after all...but told me she had

    mixed feelings on that .. but glad i have some options

    going to russia really isn't a option..lol
     
  11. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Drink lots of cranberry juice. If the stones are small you should be able to flush it out.
     
  12. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    thanks syzgys.. been drinking lots of fluids.. did manage to get hooked up with a urologist tomorrow morning
     
  13. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Hey, you want a good kidney stone story?

    I had a small stone 3 or so weeks ago, only 3mm. After they figured it out with CT, they sent me home with painkillers. The only problem was that I was puking out everything, both painkillers and liquids. So although the vomit tasted cranberry, there was no liquid intake to flush my system out.

    Eventually it took 14 hours to get ride of it. Without the puking it would have gone much faster, I guess.

    Generally when I watch my diet I don't get stones. Stress also can cause stone formation....

    Oh yeah, the ER bill was almost $5000, 4k of it for the CT, so you might want to make sure you have insurance, I only paid $85 of it....
     
  14. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    Passed it ... ahhhhh

    So I'll still go see the urologist soon.. but no way is there going to be a ct scan

    what about coffee, is that a bad thing because I'm running out of thing to eliminate.

    I know I'm stressed, trying to work on that.

    I went thru the ER thing like you a few months back...$$ ... what a racket
     
  15. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Well, look up on the internet. I think there are 4 types of kidney stones but 2 of them are the most common. If it is calcium-oxalate based, you have to watch and not to eat a lot of: banana, beans, chocolate, milk, red wine, etc.

    I don't think the urologist can do to much, except maybe determine what type of stones you have, if you have sample for them...
     
  16. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    pretty much what he said... looks to still be in the pipe as there was still some blood in the pee..

    got my catchers mitt

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    don't eat much of any of the foods you listed... beans would be the highest on the list and it isn't all that high.. bananas .. every so often for the potassium

    and taking care of my 89 yo mom, who has congestive heart failure, we both watch the salt

    I certainly appreciate the tips Sy
     
  17. draqon Banned Banned

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    PieareSquared...drinking lots of fluids does help, especially cranb. juice...but not all of it can be flushed down that way. So dont take the thing out of your mind.
     
  18. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    well hoping to catch it, so it can be analyzed ... but the CT scan I had awhile showed them to be small ... 3mm or so

    It's not in my mind ... it's somewhere else:roflmao:
     

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