Keeping a Journal

Discussion in 'About the Members' started by Athelwulf, Oct 20, 2004.

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Do you keep a journal?

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  2. I try, but I'm always forgetting it.

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  3. No.

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  1. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    Who in here keeps a journal? What do ya write in yer journal? Just a timeline of the day's events? Do ya include yer thoughts? Do ya include yer hopes and fears?

    I'm just interested in if this is a widespread practice.

    I'd also like to know how ya remember to write in yer journal. I'm always having trouble remembering to write in it every day.

    - Peace, Love, Health, and Happiness to all! Âðelwulf

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  3. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    Have you read any journals people keep? They are insanely boring. I use to read one out of courtesy and oh man....what narissicistic, boring, utterly nonsensical banter they put me through.

    I never understood the need for keeping a journal unless your thoughts were of intellectual grandeur. I wouldn't mind keeping a thoughts and ideas notebook so anytime I am inflicted with something wierd or interesting I can jot it down....but actually writing down your events that take place everyday is so inane...no one cares.


    P.S....that post countdown below your posts is getting really annoying...stop it.
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    It would seem that forums like this one are a sort of journal for your thoughts about things are being laid out daily and you can always retrieve them to see what you were thinking like months or years ago..
     
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  7. OverTheStars Registered Senior Member

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    I have one of those online journals, Xanga. You have an option to make an entry either public or private. I just can't find the point of that. It's the internet journal! If you want to keep something private, don't say it online, right??
     
  8. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    I used to keep a journal, untill my dad read it when I was 14. That's how my parents found out I burned the last report card and that it's not coming in the mail. I was horrified. I have serious privacy issues since then.

    I subconsciously pick a friend (most recent one, usually) to whom I tell absolutely everything.
     
  9. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    I keep a list of all the cute boys I'd like to tame me and what color shoes I plan to wear with my eyeshadows!
    Anyway-

    Sarge:
    This is exactly what a good journal is for.
    A kind of purging for a reasoning mind that just won't shut the fuck up.
    Nietzsche was this way.

    Cosmic:
    This is true, for those rare times you're actually being earnest.
     
  10. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    Did anyone read his/her own writings after a while? I once in a blue moon jot down my "big thoughts" and when I read them a month or two later I think, what bull. That's another great reason to stay away from journals.
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Why thank you but I try to always answer in earnest.
     
  12. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    whitewolf:
    'cuase you were fulla bull when you wrote it.

    A disservice not only to your work, but to you.

    Why?
    So you can remain blind to what you are?
    For example- you mention you keep a good 'friend' around to store your thoughts. Well, people have a tendency to tweak things for those they care for in order to remain in their favor.

    How would you ever know what you really are with such people?

    Cosmic:
    No, you're rarely earnest as much as you are fucking annoying with the quotes pulled from some "Free Chiasmus!" website..

    And by 'you're' I meant me.
     
  13. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    No; it's a waste of paper. I'm not blind to what I am. It's worthless to record something that shouldn't be remembered.

    I don't store my thoughts there. I let my thoughts out and evaluate them together with another mind. Helps to keep my resolutions more or less sane. My friends aren't "friends." "Friends" are for those who are rarely earnest.

    Hahah, people don't try to remain in my favor. Those around me don't try to keep my attentions, because I don't try. Such efforts are foolish. Things in relations should come naturally. Earnest behavior, see.

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  14. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    I once kept a journal, I managed to write in it for about a week (it was non-virtuell), but I somehow changed my mind, ripped out all the pages I already wrote and threw them away. I did this because it was utterly pointless to keep the thoughts I wrote in there, I never formulated any good ideas in that journal, the only reason I see for something like this is to keep track of the days and the key events on them. For me, days can be elusive, I know what I did, but my feeling of time is warped... anyway, I certainly do not care about other peoples' journals because they are boring and absolutely uninteresting for outsiders.
     
  15. cybercom Your face will crack. Registered Senior Member

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    I keep a journal on occasion cause I'm pretty sure my parents read it so I write crap about how "wonderful" life is.
    Right on. Talking to my someone else puts me in perspective so I don't go completely insane.....only partially

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    . But 'Wulf to remember to write in your journal you just gotta make it a habit like brushing your teeth or something, I've never really succeeded I end up writing approximately once a month.
     
  16. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Cosmic:

    "No, you're rarely earnest as much as you are fucking annoying with the quotes pulled from some "Free Chiasmus!" website.."


    I feel that I'm in pretty good company by looking at those who were also into Chiasmus.

    Chiasmus is a figure of speech based on inverted parallelism. It's a rhetorical figure in which a pair of clauses are related to one another through a reversal of terms, in order to make a larger point.

    Perhaps the most famous example of chiasmus is a quote by John F. Kennedy from his inaugural address: "...ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.
    Jimmy Carter used it in his presidential farewell address: America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense, it is the other way round. Human rights invented America. [1] (http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/speeches/farewell.phtml)
    Dwight D. Eisenhower used chiasmus in a January 1958 speech to the Republican National Committee: What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight - it's the size of the fight in the dog.
    A less-presidential example is from Mae West in I'm No Angel (1933): Well, it's not the men in your life that counts, it's the life in your men.
    Chiasmus dates back to the Bible. For example, in Genesis 9:6, there is the following: Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed." An even earlier example is this from Croesus, dating back to the 6th century BC: In peace sons bury their fathers, but in war fathers bury their sons.

    Several examples of chiasmus exist in the Book of Mormon. The entire chapter 36 of the book of Alma is written in a chiasmus format. Many believe that such overt use of chiasmus was beyond the abilities of Joseph Smith, and is considered additional evidence for the truth of the ancient book.

    Chiasmus is not limited to an exchange of words; it can also involve the exchange of letters or syllables:

    I’d Rather Have A Bottle In Front Of Me (Than A Frontal Lobotomy)
    Chiasmus can sometimes be implied, as when Kermit the Frog says "Time's fun when you're having flies" or Mae West says "A hard man is good to find."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiasmus
     
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  17. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    I'm sorry it's annoying ya, but I wanna be constantly reminded how close I am to getting to my 1000th post. I can grey it out for ya if ya want.

    41 posts to go! . . . Is this better, Sarg?
     
  18. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    It's more sad than annoying.
     
  19. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    That hurt me inside, Persol.

    40 posts to go!
     
  20. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    it is rather superfluous, besides being sad and annoying since we can all count and see how many posts you still need for 1000 posts.
     
  21. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    2 online journals (english and latvian) // mostly poetry and philosophical ramblings,
    cool stuff found on the net
     
  22. Jenyar Solar flair Valued Senior Member

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    I keep about three "journals" side by side. Maybe one day I'll look back and be able to see what kind of criteria I used to decide which one to write in, but it might be completely arbitrary. They're like three different people I talk to when I feel like it. I know one category is poetry and prose - "artistic" type entries. Another is momentous thoughts - things I think people should remember, and things I'd like to remember. That's for those times when I see a question or a topic, and remember I once heard something really profound, but I can't quite put my finger on it anymore. One day I'll type everything up and index them with hyperlinks for quick reference. I add dates for the sake of chronology and bibliographic value.

    A third category is mainly anecdotes. Witty, humurous, or interesting sayings (mostly by myself) and quotes from books I'm reading or people I've talked to. My "ode to coffee shops" can be found among these

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    . It's a way of internalizing thoughts, I guess. I have a camera obscura memory... if I expose myself to something long enough I never forget it, but for too long and it merges with everything else. Journals keep them safe from the ravages of time and memory. A journal is, in a sense, a photo album. I also write down dreams, stories, and letters to people I know I'll never send.

    It's a waste to just let these things pass into the void unexpressed. There's something magical about seeing your own thoughts on paper. Especially when they're inspired. That's when you read through them years later and can remark with wonder, "Did I really write that?" Inspiration can come on a long roadtrip or while you're lying awake at night, but when it comes you have to write it down immedately. Sometimes, it's simply a few words that make sense next to each other. If it's boring or a dead end, you can leave it without missing anything, but once in a while you uncover a gem without knowing it. Then you can expand on it and mold it into greater things. One day it might even be of value to someone, who knows. But I consider it an art, just like any form of expression - something that distills knowledge and presents it in new and surprising ways. It's a way of getting to know, dealing, and learning from yourself.
     
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  23. Starthane Xyzth returns occasionally... Valued Senior Member

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    I keep a diary (on my computer, since the beginning of this year) and haven't missed a day since the beginning of 2002. However, most of my paper journal from last year was lost. I also have old diaries from my early teens, inspired of course by Adrian Mole.

    I find that, even when I try simply to list the day's events along with brief observations or feelings, a typical diary entry typically expands into a rambling account which takes far too long to write. The current electronic diary seems OK to me, if read a couple of months later - not too trite or cringeworthy, since the feelings and situations involved are still reasonably relevant. Come the end of the year, I'll do a word count on all 12 chapters and see how it compares to an average novel.

    As for my old diaries - often they seem boring, sometimes funny and interesting for nostalgic reasons; otherwise the most awful and shameful bull, just as Gendaken said.

    I like to think that some people might consider my diaries readable enough to publish, at least in a condensed form which omits the dull, routine parts. But even if they could actually earn me some money or recognition, it should not happen until after I'm dead!
     

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