Bebelina
12-15-01, 10:06 AM
Is midnigth 12.00 am or 12.00 pm?
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View Full Version : Just a simple question. Bebelina 12-15-01, 10:06 AM Is midnigth 12.00 am or 12.00 pm? :) Bowser 12-15-01, 11:33 AM Both. Banshee 12-15-01, 01:06 PM At midnight exactly it is none. But 1 minute after midnight it is AM.;) scilosopher 12-15-01, 03:06 PM I'm pretty sure midnight is 12 am. At least by convention. It does seem a little backwards to me as it causes the the 12 of the sequence to have the opposite designation as the 11 hours prior to it. then again is makes it morning after midnight, which kind of makes sense. Chagur 12-15-01, 06:53 PM When millions of men and women have military, and other, experience with twenty-four hour time (0000-2400hr.) this country refuses to make the change? Just as idiotic as our not accepting the metric system. Just bitching. :mad: Mr. G 12-15-01, 07:03 PM Midnight is 12AM. 12AM is midnight. The main reason America doesn't adopt the Metric system civily is because we like to irritate equally arbitrary conformists. :D wet1 12-15-01, 07:40 PM Most of the rest of the world uses metric and the 24 hour clock. Upon looking at the cost to convert everything over to metric across the nation it has been decieded to make it an incremental change. Who knows when it will finally be done with and the world on an even measuring table. It has been delayed many times and is still languishing in the effort to complete the conversion to metric. If you work on cars and trucks it is a nightmare requiring two sets of tools to do work. One for imperial standard and one for metric. The 24 hour clock is yet another place where we are the hold outs. Ask Joe Blow what time it is and he will invariably tell you the time in the standard 12 hour clock. I guess like Chagur, I'm just bitching. Mr. G 12-15-01, 08:06 PM Hmm. The planet's only super power is just about the only non-metric culture around. Why the hell should we want to be a drone just like everyone else? ;) James R 12-15-01, 08:29 PM <i>Why the hell should we want to be a drone just like everyone else?</i> Um...so you don't lose more mutli-million dollar Mars probes, perhaps? :) Mr. G 12-15-01, 08:51 PM Hahahahahahehehehehehehehe! :p Well, if the rest of you weren't so partial to metric you would have known what terms we wanted. ;) You're damn lucky we are so good natured or we'd have nuked you all for the error. :) Bebelina 12-16-01, 09:26 AM Thanks everybody.:) So if I write Sunday midnight at 24.00 hours( Should I write ´hours´too?) the Americans will understand ? Is that then Monday 12.00 am for them? Banshee 12-16-01, 10:56 AM I guess you are right, but I have not figured it out yet.:) I stay with the 24 hour system, much easier to handle.;) 24.00 hours is 12.00 AM?? Think so. The American way of laziness to go along with the rest of the world?:p Then you have to keep up with the time difference also, which is different in parts of America. 24.00 hours with you, is 7 hours earlier with me. James R 12-16-01, 06:44 PM When you say Monday 12.00 am, it is taken to mean the start of Monday (rather than the end of Monday). As far as I am aware, the convention for 24 hour time is a bit hazy. Is Monday 0000 the start of Monday or the end? What about Monday 2400? In the armed forces, I think they generally avoid this confusion by specifying times as, for example, Sunday 2359 or Monday 0001, which are unambiguous. razz 12-26-01, 10:50 AM Dear Mr G I found this remark you made quite rude and typicaly arrogant. .................................................. .................................................. "You're damn lucky we are so good natured or we'd have nuked you all for the error." .................................................. .................................................. I dont believe that remark was called for, pull ya head in and remember people from more than one country visit this site. Im sure your fellow country men and women, think your egotistical remark lacked decorum as much as I did. .................................................. ................................................. As for the original question, I agree with scilosopher its 12AM John Como 12-26-01, 12:40 PM To my knowledge, midnight is 12:00 a.m. whereas Noon is 12:00 p.m. The designated time in most legal documents, however, is 12:01 a.m. Have a nice day. And night. odin 12-29-01, 05:42 PM I thought it was a good joke! Cris 12-30-01, 01:03 AM Ahh 24 hour time, clear and unambiguous, and known throughout the world as, guess what, 24 hour time, except in the USA where only the military are allowed to use it so it is called military time. And then of course the 12 hour am/pm system has to be called civilian time to make a distinction. And since most people don’t really think of themselves as military then of course there is a widespread aversion to using a 24-hour system for civilian activities. And hence another American cultural cock-up inhibits the USA joining the rest of the world in using a useful standard. The problem with midnight is that there is no such thing, literally. Midnight is a period of zero length that forms the border between two days. Midnight is not contained within either day. So to say Monday midnight really has no meaning. The most unambiguous way to reference midnight is to indicate whether it is at the end of a day or at the beginning. So we could say Monday at 2400, or Tuesday at 0000, where both these refer to exactly the same time. To be perfectly correct the time 2400 doesn’t exist either. Notice there is no : between the hours and minutes. While my daughter and I keep our watches set to 24-hour time and all the clocks in our home are set to 24-hour time we do always use 12-hour nomenclature when talking to our American friends. We learnt some years ago that if we spoke in 24-hour time we would inevitably receive the comment, “oh are you something to do with the military then? Or variations on the same theme. This pissed us off sufficiently that we decided it isn’t worth trying to fight a whole culture on this irritation. Time to go, bye. Cris Banshee 12-30-01, 11:11 AM Cris is totally right in this case. At midnight it is 00.00. As in the 24 hour clock, there is no 24 hours. It stops at 23.59 hours, without the seconds. Than it is 00.00 hours. Nothing, zero, nope, zilch...:) What a nice invention, isn't it? ;) wet1 12-30-01, 11:24 AM It really doesn't matter. What you are talking about is one second. Maybe that is critical to the military or some such but for Joe Blow it isn't. After that one second it is the the next day's time. Or 0000:01 Cris 12-30-01, 01:36 PM Wet1, What is special about a second? In my work I constantly deal with milliseconds and microseconds. These are very real time periods. As soon as time moves forward from 0000 for even the minutest instant then it is no longer midnight but the next day. Cris wet1 12-30-01, 02:03 PM Nothing special about a second. It just seemed the easiest concept to grasp. bhattathiri 08-06-03, 02:09 AM Hi The solution to the problem should begin with the concept of the day beginning and ending with sunrise (for convenience 06:00 hours onwards). This will avoid splitting the 12-hr night into 6 hours each between consecutive days. Then we should think of decimalizing time starting with 1 at 6 a.m. onwards. Can we hope to switch to decimal time before the end of this century? lixluke 08-06-03, 02:44 AM Midnight isn't one minute after or before anything. Midnight is exactly 12:00am. Noon is exactly 12:00pm. How hard is that? SG-N 08-06-03, 06:39 AM I'm using the 24 hours system and when I talk I can use 12h/noon and midnight (I never heard/used "12pm" or "24h" for "midnight"). Bebelina 08-06-03, 09:50 AM Welcome bhattahiri, how did you find this old topic? Morteza Olangui 08-07-03, 06:11 AM This or that, does it make a great difference? Does it affect the beauty of a starry night with your loved one or ones near you? A.M. and P.M. are agreements, In nature that does not exist. With love. Bebelina 08-07-03, 07:54 AM You're right, who cares anyway? What a fantastic name you have Morteza Olangui. troj 08-08-03, 08:11 AM totaly agree with Morteza......well said bro! but the reason that 12 is the expression for noon n night is because its pretty bl00dy obvious which you'd be refering to in conversation!!!! 'I stayed up till 12 last night' < well if thats not an afternooner I dont know what is!!! http://www.lefkowitzdesign.com/jesterscourt/images/fool.gif Bebelina 08-08-03, 09:43 AM A selfportrait troj? troj 08-08-03, 09:44 AM nah my nose is bigga !!!:D n i dont wear clothes that trendy!!!!!!!! Mucker 08-08-03, 09:48 AM How little you know! troj 08-08-03, 09:50 AM explain that one Mucks? Mucker 08-08-03, 09:59 AM Because you know so little! troj 08-08-03, 10:00 AM you lad muck..you lad fahq 08-08-03, 12:32 PM 12:00 AM is midnight 12:00 PM is noon |