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lucifers angel
03-28-08, 08:25 AM
We watched this a while ago, not that its for everyone, but i tought it was a really nice feal good film!!

anyone else seen it?

16-year-old Minnesota high-schooler Juno MacGuff (Ellen Page) discovers she is nine weeks pregnant with a child fathered by her friend and longtime admirer, Paulie Bleeker (Michael Cera). Although she initially opts for an abortion, a last-minute change of heart leads her to decide to have the baby and make a plan for the child's adoption. With the help of her friend Leah (Olivia Thirlby), Juno searches the Pennysaver and finds a couple she feels will provide a suitable home. Along with her father, Mac (J. K. Simmons), Juno meets the couple, Mark and Vanessa Loring (Jason Bateman and Jennifer Garner), in their expensive home and finalizes the arrangements for a closed adoption.

As time passes, Juno forms a friendship with Mark, with whom she shares tastes in rock music, horror movies, and pop culture. Mark, a commercial jingle composer whose rock band youth is now confined to boxes of memorabilia and a single room of the house which his wife has allotted him, has set aside his dreams to lead a conservative life with Vanessa, who longs to be a mother. As a previous potential birth mother had "gotten cold feet," Vanessa is extremely anxious around Juno and their initial interactions are uneasy.

Months pass and Juno struggles with the emotions she feels for her baby's father, Paulie, who is clearly – although passively – in love with Juno. Juno maintains an outwardly indifferent attitude toward Paulie. However, when she learns he has asked another girl to the prom, she is hurt and angrily confronts him. Paulie reminds Juno that it is at her request they remain distant and tells her that she broke his heart. He also suggests that she has feelings for him she is unable to admit.

Not long before her baby is due, Juno is once again visiting with Mark when their friendship becomes flirtatious. Mark then confesses that he is leaving Vanessa. Vanessa arrives home and an argument ensues between her and Mark about whether or not it is "bad timing" for them to proceed with the adoption. As she watches their marriage fall apart, Juno leaves and cries on the side of the road before coming to a decision. Returning to the Lorings' home, she leaves a note for Vanessa.

After a heartfelt discussion with her father, Juno accepts that she loves Paulie and reveals her feelings to him. Later at his track event, when Paulie notices Juno is not in the stands and realizes she must be in labor, he rushes to the hospital to be with her after the delivery. He comforts Juno as she cries, and they both agree not to see the child, "who was never really theirs, anyway." Vanessa comes to the hospital where she alone joyfully claims the newborn boy as a now-single adoptive mother. On the wall in the baby's new nursery, Vanessa has framed Juno's note, which reads "Vanessa: If you're still in, I'm still in. -Juno." The film ends with Juno and Paulie playing guitar and singing together sometime later, followed by a kiss.

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what did everyone who ahs seen it think? I liked it!!

http://www.imnotobsessed.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/juno.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0SKf0K3bxg

Syzygys
03-28-08, 10:01 AM
I really don't get why teenagers liked this so much. When I asked my kid he couldn't explain.

Also, she is supposed to be smart, but gets pregnant at first sex. I guess that is smart by today's standard. Otherwise I liked the movie...

AloneAgainOr
03-30-08, 02:42 PM
I really liked the film. It stayed away from any stupid political message, which I really appreciated.

I have family members who have adopted, and put children up for adoption. The adjective I would use to describe Juno would be "human." It seemed to be a very human portrayal of an unusual situation.

draqon
03-30-08, 02:43 PM
Also, she is supposed to be smart, but gets pregnant at first sex. I guess that is smart by today's standard.

Yeah the American standards of morality how gone so low...it really hurts me as well as I cant choose an American girlfriend because I know the relationship will not last long. I also tend to overthink things by a lot when American girls just sway were they feel like.

Syzygys
03-30-08, 02:54 PM
Personally I think you need a girlfriend. You are too young to waste your life on the net. What's the problem with having girlfriends for shorter periods? Also, since you are at a university, you can choose (I assume) non-American students as girlfriends.

As about the moral standard, I am sure there are high standard girls around you, you just have to look harder...

draqon
03-30-08, 02:55 PM
Personally I think you need a girlfriend. You are too young to waste your life on the net. What's the problem with having girlfriends for shorter periods? Also, since you are at a university, you can choose (I assume) non-American students as girlfriends.

As about the moral standard, I am sure there are high standard girls around you, you just have to look harder...

yeah you are right...it's just problems with me. :(

AloneAgainOr
03-30-08, 02:56 PM
Yeah the American standards of morality how gone so low.

Compared to whom? What "standard" of morality are you using as a reference here. I was not aware that there was any perfect standard of morality by which all other standards are judged?

Morality is a subjective standard, and cannot be compared objectively. I am not sure such comparisons are productive or useful, except to promote one's own arrogance. Morality is culturally constructed. You have every right to demean my American brothers and sisters, but realize it only makes you look egocentric in comparison.

draqon
03-30-08, 02:57 PM
Compared to whom? What "standard" of morality are you using as a reference here. I was not aware that there was any perfect standard of morality by which all other standards are judged?

......Morality is culturally constructed.

Well I come from a different culture, Russian culture. And I am not the only one who think Americans are not moral in their ways, most of my asian colleagues agree as well.

AloneAgainOr
03-30-08, 03:02 PM
Well I come from a different culture, Russian culture. And I am not the only one who think Americans are not moral in their ways, most of my asian colleagues agree as well.

I am not American either. I have not country.

However, my question is "What is moral to you?" Because an American may call something moral and you call something immoral. And Americans are not all the same, just like all Russians are not the same.

You put all Americans together, and then you assume that Americans "are not moral" because they are DIFFERENT. I don't see how being different means someone is not moral.

I am interested why you say different is not moral.

draqon
03-30-08, 03:06 PM
I am interested why you say different is not moral.

thats not what I am saying...what I am stating is that since I am Russian what I see as moral is moral for me and those like me, I cannot just accept some ultimate worldly morality that everyone follows...I have my own set of rules. Like not staring into peoples eyes for too long so that they dont feel bad or to not bother them or infiltrate their personal space...well in Russia these are moral laws. Not having gazillion boyfriends/girlfriends is also issue of morality there as well. I am talking about majority of people accepting the same principles of morality as others. Being different in moral reasoning is not moral for me because these morals are different from mine. That cannot be changed.

AloneAgainOr
03-30-08, 03:08 PM
thats not what I am saying...what I am stating is that since I am Russian what I see as moral is moral for me and those like me, I cannot just accept some ultimate worldly morality that everyone follows...I have my own set of rules. Like not staring into peoples eyes for too long so that they dont feel bad or to not bother them or infiltrate their personal space...well in Russia these are moral laws. Not having gazillion boyfriends/girlfriends is also issue of morality there as well. I am talking about majority of people accepting the same principles of morality as others. Being different in moral reasoning is not moral for me because these morals are different from mine. That cannot be changed.

Thank you. You answered my question very well. :)

I understand better now what you are saying.

Gustav
03-30-08, 03:12 PM
come now
its like this
do it with me and you have good taste
do it with others and you are a slut

John99
03-30-08, 03:12 PM
I am not American either. I have not country.

However, my question is "What is moral to you?" Because an American may call something moral and you call something immoral. And Americans are not all the same, just like all Russians are not the same.

You put all Americans together, and then you assume that Americans "are not moral" because they are DIFFERENT. I don't see how being different means someone is not moral.

I am interested why you say different is not moral.

Its just that the grass is always greener on the other side.:shrug:

Syzygys
03-30-08, 03:21 PM
yeah you are right...it's just problems with me. :(

Why don't you try the internet? She doesn't have to be in the same location as you are. Love conquers distance!!!

draqon
03-30-08, 03:22 PM
Why don't you try the internet? She doesn't have to be in the same location as you are. Love conquers distance!!!

well I already found her...:) she and I want to meet...but I am hesitant.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=79094

Syzygys
03-30-08, 03:30 PM
Remember 2 things:

1. You never fail if you never try, but you also never succeed.
2. Love is overrated...

Gustav
03-30-08, 03:45 PM
garcon! start the countdown to launch the icbm's!

draqon
03-30-08, 03:46 PM
garcon! start the countdown to launch the icbm's!

oui, uno momento

hypewaders
03-30-08, 03:52 PM
what did everyone who ahs seen it think? I liked it!!

It's great because there is an Ellen Page. She's awesome.

Hard Candy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424136/)

Gustav
03-30-08, 03:58 PM
i liked it
i've skimmed thru hard candy
did not know it was the same girl

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4973/hardcandy06071207323599cl8.jpg


http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6326/image3739001ms9.jpg

Syzygys
03-30-08, 05:17 PM
I think she made the movie watchable. Had it been a different girl, I wouldn't have watched it. By the way I watched it online, so I could have stopped anytime....

RubiksMaster
03-30-08, 11:54 PM
At the part where she said, "He was really good in. . . in chair", I had to rewind it and hear that again.

lucifers angel
03-31-08, 04:51 AM
i thought she was great in Hard Candy!

idiot0boy
04-06-08, 07:52 AM
I thought it was just a cool film, like little miss sunshine. You just sort of feel good after watching them.

Orleander
04-06-08, 07:05 PM
i thought she was great in Hard Candy!

not great, AWESOME!!!! :thumbsup:

Syzygys
04-19-08, 10:08 PM
Hillarious abbreviated screenplay of Juno:

http://www.cracked.com/article_16161_if-juno-was-10-times-shorter-100-times-more-honest.html

Also I wonder when they had sex next time, what kind of protection did they use? Reminds me, once she was already pregnant, they should have shagged like Varda when after 3 months she finally met with her hubby...

francois
04-19-08, 10:30 PM
She didn't seem believable as a character and the sound track was obnoxious to say the least.