This 4th of July we will celebrate the 231st anniversary of the birth of our nation. I LOVE this holiday since I am VERY patriotic. :xctd: I think we should boycott any displays of fireworks from China. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56347 God Bless America. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56388
Get up early, find a good parade spot and watch my 16 yr old son act like a 4 yr old as he runs out and gets candy that the floats throw. Then we go to the VFW for BBQ, then the areas churches for bake sale and ice cream social. Then back home to grill out for supper. Then a ginormous fireworks show, which I would never boycott. (I'm not a hypocrite)
Are you from Mayberry? I'm not that into patriotism, but the family usually gets together and has dinner and we all hangout. Not really a 4th of July celebration, just another reason to get together and eat good food.
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So let me get this straight - you celebrate the independence you got from Britain even though you were British yourselves, you think it's great because you got independence from a country just because they taxed you for a war that was to your sole benefit, and you still make the queen's visit a huge deal. ???
independnce from britian you make it sound as if we was litrelay bieng ruthles and destroying you. wasent it just taxeing you so the french dident take over most of europe?
That's the beauty of it boys... The whole thing was a scam right from the get-go. I have far more respect for a bunch of conniving bastards taking the ultimate gamble (chances are the "Founding Fathers" might well have been hanged to a man if the thing had failed) than the cardboard cut-out portraits of the Founders we were force-fed in grammar school history.
Just that all that bluster about the tyranny of England, and the Liberty the Founders were striving for was to some extent of a bunch of hogwash cooked up by the guys behind the American Revolution. Take the taxation business you mentioned... The "Massachusetts Gang" came up with a buzzword they still trot out today to explain the Revolution to the kiddies concerning that bit of "tyrannical oppression" - Taxation Without Representation !!! The truth of it was that the Founders were scared shitless that the British gov't would get the bright idea of giving the colonies the very seats in Parliament that the term implied we were not allowed, and then proceed to vote down anything & everything we came up with in the way of proposed legislation. It would have been just the thing to yank the teeth of the Revolution without really giving up anything. (or almost nothing) However, it seems the Founders read the British well enough to know that they would never make such a gesture, perhaps fearing that every British possession would then start screaming for representation in the gov't.
i know this is a litle of topic but could have britian had won the war if the was not distacted by the nappolean war at the time?
happy independence day to all the guys and girls in the US i am not from the US so of course i cant post a vote on the poll
Napoleon did not come to power until 1799. The Revolutionary War ended in 1783. The French, did, however, contribute troops, naval assets and money to the American cause, the better to vex their old rival, Britain.
i hearrd someweretho without france america would have been fucked and im nor sure if britiand could have carried on fighting but sore no point please tell me lol.
The Americans celebrate the overthrow of a King who they replaced with a President who they now defer to as a King. Washington and Jefferson would have cringed whenever hearing 'Hail to the Chief'... the antithesis of what they believed in.
Britain faced a difficult task even without the French getting involved. A glance at a map of the world or globe reveals one significant problem - namely the 5,ooo or so kilometer trip British troops had to make before they could even get into action. Same trip required for resupply. 6-10 weeks at sea. Added to this is the fact that the strength of British armies in America was eroded by the need to garrison the bases from which they operated against a hostile populous. American terrain also worked against the British. General Burgoyne's campaign in the State of New York - http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1298.html and General Cornwallis' campaign in the Carolinas - http://www.patriotresource.com/history/south/overview.html Are 2 examples of situations where the British forces began by winning seemingly impressive victories, but were in effect "swallowed up" by the vastness of the environment in which they were operating. Britain also failed to develop an overall strategy for defeating/subduing the Colonies, apparently under the assumption that a much smaller force than was eventually employed would be sufficient to intimidate the rebellion into surrendering. This might also be attributed to a misconception that a greater percentage of the population held loyalist sentiments. French intervention might well be said to have "sealed the deal", so to speak, by providing everything from the morale boost of a major European ally, to the troops, ships, arms and funds France contributed to the war. Even so, it's not precisely accurate to say that Britain was defeated, in the sense that her armies were so thoroughly beaten that they were forced to withdraw from America. It was just as much a case of the war dragging on for so long that the effort began to be seen as futile in Britain, and support for it eroded to the extent that Cornwallis' defeat at Yorktown was the point at which the British gov't declared "enough, already !" and just quit trying.
My celebrating the 4th has nothing to do with Britian, the Revolution, the founding fathers, the constitution, etc. I celebrate because I am so dang grateful I was lucky enough to have been born here. The 4th is my Thanksgiving.
