Jews 'are victims and aggressors'

Yeah, well..............

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All wars end someday.

Brian Foley, end this war.

 

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I couldn't agree with Dr. Smith more. There is no worse predator than a former victim and Israel is an example of that.

 

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it's kind of like they are morphing into Hitler

 

but no one is taking it into an account. It's like Hitler doing the things he did and being seen as Churchill.

 

Israels rich American benefactors economic demise will end that war, Im broke.

Here is a good example of that shizophrenic state Lucy:
Israeli Military Says Actions in Gaza War Did Not Violate International Law
vs
UN envoy: Gaza op seems to be war crime of greatest magnitude

God help the Palestinians.

 

Well said.

BRIAN: Here is a good example of that shizophrenic state Lucy:
Israeli Military Says Actions in Gaza War Did Not Violate International Law
vs
UN envoy: Gaza op seems to be war crime of greatest magnitude

It is schizo. What annoyed me the most was Hiliary Clinton holding the hand of Zipi Livni during her visit as if to say 'you're my bgf (best global friend)' Right after the Gaza offensive. I was also rather disappointed that Obama didnt make a statement condemning Israel.

The US policy is out of proportion and then they have the nerve to speak on human rights

 

And then threatens to obliterate Iran.

Presidents dont run countries the Plutocratic elite in the form of corporations are the parallel goverment that runs the nation. Obama is fed what to say as is his policies.

 

pitty no one seems to have actually read the artical. bells, lucy you agree that there should be more teaching about the holocost so that no one critisies israil? because when you read the whole artical thats his argument.

now i have no problem with more study of WW2 but there victimisation then does NOT excuse israils actions no. HELL , most of the people commiting the atrocities now wouldnt evenhave been alive and i highly doubt those killed would welcome what there children are doing in there name

 

Comparing the Holocaust to what the Palestinians have been through is nothing short of retarded. 6 million jews, half the jewish population of the world, compared to ~30 000 Palestinians during 60 years of 2-sided fighting. Even the arabs themselves have killed more Palestinians than this, and noone's forcing the arab world into a fight for their basic right to exist. Go back to grade school and learn how to count. And after you've done that, read the full article too and what it actually says- you guys clearly didn't do your homework on this one.

 

I haventdone that? It is about aggressors and victims, I was showing Palestinians as victims.

I dont think you did:

It was about a poll conducted in England, and a reference over the Holocaust being taught in schools.

 

No, you were trying to equate the magnitude of alleged Israeli war crimes with what was done in the Holocaust. Maybe you should hold off on that 'til the Palestinians are going to the gas chambers.

Lucy clearly missed the point the author made in the original quote, that's who I was referring to- calling the jews equally victims and aggressors throughout history demonstrates a clear lack of knowledge and understanding of this same history.

 

Rather than aggressors, I would say that Jews have a cultural tendency to be confrontational and argumentative.

This may be seen as aggressive in politically correct cultures and would explain the different way they are treated under eastern and western societies.

I do think they need to get over seeing themselves as victims however, as this has been damaging to them as a society.

Gideon Levy / The Holocaust and Israeli occupation cannot be compared

 

apparently bork has forgotten the fact that briton suffered at the hands of jewish terrorism in its history.

 

Im sorry but explain to me exactly what that is? It's not cluster bombs because the bomblets don't have trailing smoke, its not artillery because lets face it, that city block would be blown up and the camera man dead. Its not bombs because the Israeli's dont have bombers with that kind of capacity. And I doubt that it is anything incendiary because there are no incendiary cluster bombs and even then Israel knows most of those buildings are adobe style with mud and brick and are non flammable. Most likely it was some sort of flare with a defect causing it to detonate mid flight but that doesnt explain why there are so many little shards and why they are so uniform, and it wasnt rockets for the same reason as artillery, and the smoke patterns are too uniform.

Most likely it was a defective flare.

 

To be honest, if the probability werent so tremendous i would guess it were a meteor shower because of the uniform smoke clouds and lack of significant sized explosion, and the tiny fire balls emenating from the crash site because of the speed of the meteors.

But because it would be a massive miracle we could probably dismiss it.

 

How bout this, the Jews have put up with being pushed around for 2,000 years. The Palestinians started pushing us around with their rockets and now they are crying like the cowards they are when they realize were not putting up with this bullshit anymore. They messed with the bull and theyre getting the horns.

Do you honestly think that Israel would have attacked if the Palestinians weren't firing rockets, an act of trechory and war?

 

It's a typical white phosphorous pattern.

Depending, of course, on the type of round fired.

What capacity?

Ah, if only the rest of the world knew that.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?gbv=2&hl=en&safe=off&q=incendiary cluster bomb&btnG=Search&meta=

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Being a victim teaches you to avoid being the victim in the future. That can be percieved as agressive, but who the fuck cares what people think as long as you aren't the victim any more, that's all that matters.