"Thanks for saving my life and stuff, but I'm busy right now...."A journey to the home town of Jessica Lynch by the Iraqi lawyer who helped to free the young American soldier ended in embarrassment for all concerned when she snubbed him.

Miss Lynch, portrayed as a heroine of our times for her courage while a prisoner of war, was too busy to receive the visitor, her family's lawyer said. (Full text here (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/29/wlynch29.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/10/29/ixnewstop.html))I guess you forget that if it were not for the true heroism of Mohammed al-Rehaief venturing across the battlefield not once, not twice, but three times so that U.S. forces could locate you and the graves of your fallen comrades, you would most likely be dead now.

I thought you had conveniently lost your memory... how can you be busy writing a book? What's next, Playboy?

:m: Peace.

*jessica took a wrong turn and was attacked
*iraqi soldiers took her to the hospital
*vip treatment for broken arm, thigh and dislocated shoulder
*dr al-houssona sent her back in an ambulance but were shot at by americans. back to the hospital
*al-rehaief calls americans on cell and gives location
*iraqis flee
*americans saunter in
*jess comes back a hero
*al-rehaief gets asylum and book deal for 1/2 mil
*the rest is hollywood history

set the record straight bitch. honor the iraqis that saved your ass in that hospital!

*a bit rusty eh goofy? nice to have you back!:)

Ooh was my language that bad;)
Still, I remember the post.
Lets try again...

set the record straight bitch. honor the iraqis that saved your ass in that hospital!

"Why let the truth get in the way of a good story after all who'd want to read a book/ watch a movie about heroic Iraqis? It's much more entertaining just to demonise them"

That better Goofy?
Dee Cee

Jessica is perfect for the Marie Antoinette role in our little neocolonial farce.

From the beginning, I avoided the whole Jessica Lynch story and so. But after reading this, it really makes me angry. I'm gonna read up more on this now since ya'll say that this is the true story.

This whole things been disgusting from the start.
The original portrayal of her bravely fighting off the savage Iraqis until finally being captured and being held in captivity until her valiant rescue by US forces, the story for which she's famous and labelled a heroine, is pretty much the opposite of what happend. The Iraqis saved her and gave her medical treatment far beyond what they gave to their own countrymen, and then tried to return her to the US and were shot at, and eventually the US smashed down the door to the hospitol, and "rescued" her from the doctors who had been taking care of her and had already tried to return her.
She's not a hero. She didn't do anything heroic. The people who rescued her(the Iraqis not the Americans) can be considered heroes I suppose, although probalby not by the Iraqi's that didn't get treatment because of all the attention she got.
This whole incident should be a huge embarrasment to the US. From the corrected accounts of what happend it seems that the Americans involved acted shamefully, and the Iraqis heroicly.
And now it seems she's going to make a huge sum of money, which no doubt will not be shared with those who actually saved her, or with those who suffered so she could get top quality care.

Jps,

Where did you get that version of events from? I never read anything like that.

And now it seems she's going to make a huge sum of money, which no doubt will not be shared with those who actually saved her, or with those who suffered so she could get top quality care.

It's the easiest way to get rich quick.

I've seen it a few places, with different variations. This is the first that a search revealed:
http://www.activeopposition.com/JessicaLynch.htm

The doctors told us that the day before the special forces swooped on the hospital the Iraqi military had fled. Hassam Hamoud, a waiter at a local restaurant, said he saw the American advance party land in the town. He said the team's Arabic interpreter asked him where the hospital was. "He asked: 'Are there any Fedayeen over there?' and I said, 'No'." All the same, the next day "America's finest warriors" descended on the building.

"We heard the noise of helicopters," says Dr Anmar Uday. He says that they must have known there would be no resistance. "We were surprised. Why do this? There was no military, there were no soldiers in the hospital.

"It was like a Hollywood film. They cried, 'Go, go, go', with guns and blanks and the sound of explosions. They made a show - an action movie like Sylvester Stallone or Jackie Chan, with jumping and shouting, breaking down doors." All the time with the camera rolling. The Americans took no chances, restraining doctors and a patient who was handcuffed to a bed frame.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,956255,00.html


LMAO!! Oh dear that story was the funniest I've read in a while...:D

Of course Jessica Lynch has no recollection of what happened to her in the hospital... what with all the torture and slapping around that she received, according to the Guardian Newspaper.

What I find intriguing is that if she has no recollection of what happened, how can she write a book about it? Oh yeah that's right... she has "researchers" helping her... Hmmmm....



:eek:

Counselor Coffee, I also seen that story when I did a search for it on BBC.

The part about her fighting off til the last-stand isn't true according to a report by BBC News.

The report also says that Private Lynch received her injuries when the Humvee jeep she was riding in was hit by gunfire and slammed into a truck - not in a dogged last-stand fire fight with the enemy as some media reports had suggested.
She was not - as had been suggested - stabbed and shot as she tried to resist her captors, the report said.

However,

Significantly the report does not address the Iraqis' treatment of their American captives, nor the accusations, denied by the Pentagon, that defence officials over dramatised Private Lynch's rescue from an Iraqi hospital.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3055515.stm

Also, about the hospital, I'm not too sure, but BBC says the guy who saved her saw here get slapped by an Iraqi security agent.

Soon after the rescue, Mr Rehaief told reporters he had looked through a window at the hospital in the town of Nasiriya, where his wife worked as a nurse, and had seen Private Lynch being slapped by an Iraqi security agent.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2987187.stm

Her leg was also going to be amputated, but it was stopped.

He said he overheard Iraqis talking about amputating Private Lynch's injured leg but managed to persuade his doctor friend to stop it, the Post said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2916255.stm

I'm not sure what she was treated like yet since I still have to do a search on that.

Originally posted by Pakman
Her leg was also going to be amputated, but it was stopped.
I'm not sure what she was treated like yet since I still have to do a search on that.
What crap. She received the best care the Iraqis had to give, including othopaedic surgery on her injured leg using a large amount of the few resources the hospital had. It may have escaped your notice guys, but Iraqi doctors swear to the same code of ethics as US doctors....

Originally posted by EI_Sparks
What crap. She received the best care the Iraqis had to give, including othopaedic surgery on her injured leg using a large amount of the few resources the hospital had. It may have escaped your notice guys, but Iraqi doctors swear to the same code of ethics as US doctors....

I don't know much about the story except what I read in this post and from BBC. I do take your word though as I tend to think that the Iraqi's helped Jessica Lynch. Perhaps this part was true, but probably not done by the Iraqi's, but rather Baath party members or Saddam loyalists or someone who doesn't like the U.S.?

What crap. She received the best care the Iraqis had to give, including othopaedic surgery on her injured leg using a large amount of the few resources the hospital had. It may have escaped your notice guys, but Iraqi doctors swear to the same code of ethics as US doctors....

Whether or not it was the 'best' care is irrelevant, if they still believed the only way to save her life was to amputate. I had a friend working in Saudi Arabia who received a compound fracture in one leg because of a truck accident. When doctors in the Saudi hospital told him they would have to amputate the leg his parents had him flown back to the States, where his leg was set and saved.

Just curious does anyone know what her opion of her "captors" where or what she's likely to be writing in this book of hers, or is it technically a bookbyf her "Advisors" and signed by her?

Whilst i'm sure there are elements out there still wanting to cash in further on this "all American Heroine" who defied the "evil iraqi hordes" by releasing an ever so subtly politicsed account of her ordeal in paperback at a good time (2004 election?) would it bite them in the arse if they do vilify or falsly portray the treatment she received by the Iraqi's when/if the truth is ever given any voice/merit?

I suppose she could always put her hands up and say hey i remember nothing right? blame the advisors =/

Originally posted by Spyke
Whether or not it was the 'best' care is irrelevant, if they still believed the only way to save her life was to amputate.
Not quite - the manner in which that would be discussed in front of a patient comes under the heading of patient care. Threatening a patient with amputation isn't something that a doctor, irrespective of nationalilty, would do.

I had a friend working in Saudi Arabia who received a compound fracture in one leg because of a truck accident. When doctors in the Saudi hospital told him they would have to amputate the leg his parents had him flown back to the States, where his leg was set and saved.
That can happen where the hospital doesn't have the ability to handle the injury - but that's down to facilities and staff, not attitudes towards nationalities. Many people are forced to leave Ireland to go to other countries like the US, Canada, South Africa, the UK and others for specific treatments that our healthcare system doesn't have the ability to provide, for example.

Not quite - the manner in which that would be discussed in front of a patient comes under the heading of patient care. Threatening a patient with amputation isn't something that a doctor, irrespective of nationalilty, would do.


Nothing was said about the Iraqis threatening Lynch with amputation. In other words, it was not being held over her as a means of intimidation. All that was said was:

"He said he overheard Iraqis talking about amputating Private Lynch's injured leg but managed to persuade his doctor friend to stop it, the Post said."

Nothing there about a threat. Rather, I think it was probably a similar situation to my friend in Saudi Arabia, which was more a case of the extensiveness of the damage to the leg exceeding the staff's capabilities at the hospital. Knowing a rescue was imminent, it was believed that if amputatiuon was held off her leg could be saved after she was removed.

That can happen where the hospital doesn't have the ability to handle the injury - but that's down to facilities and staff, not attitudes towards nationalities.

I didn't say anything about attitude, or the possibility that the Iraqi doctors, or in my friend's case, Saudi doctors, wouldn't give the best treatment available because the patient was an American. As I said, my friend was removed because they couldn't, not wouldn't, save his severely damaged leg. I think it was the same situation with Lynch. They didn't have the capability at the hospital to save her leg. Hell, I had the same thing happen here in the States. I had half of my right hand almost severed. I was taken to the nearest small town hospital where they told me they couldn't save my hand, the doctor candidly admittedly he didn't have the skill (which I appreciated), but said if I was taken to the nearest urban major medical center, roughly an hour away, there was a chance at least that my hand could be saved. I allowed them to rush me there by ambulance, where indeed my hand was saved. I only regained about 75-80% used of the ring finger, middle finger, and the thumb, after nerve repair, but it was much better than losing the hand.