Well when i heard the news I couldn't believe it, Israel moving into Lebanon. It's about time!! these terrorists scum are gonna learn the hard way that messing with Israel is gonna cost them big time.

Next on list Syria and Iran,. They gonna get Israel's spercial treatment,. NUKES!! ,. yeah long live Israel!!!

Hezbollah capture two Israeli soldiers
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-2266551,00.html
Looks like two-nil to the Lebanese. Could this be Israel's Vietnam?

Well when i heard the news I couldn't believe it, Israel moving into Lebanon. It's about time!! these terrorists scum are gonna learn the hard way that messing with Israel is gonna cost them big time.

Next on list Syria and Iran,. They gonna get Israel's spercial treatment,. NUKES!! ,. yeah long live Israel!!!
i just love this really progressive approach!!!!!!!!!

Israel is a helpless wart on humanity. Without full US welfare to pay for their army their god given holy land would belong to the Palestinians. As long as Israel is an unchecked aggressor against it's neighbors and the native population it will lose soldiers and civilians too. Surprising real conservatives are not supportive of Israel (Buchanan, Novak) and armchair racist chickenhawks here in the US are. They support a non-christian, foreign nation built on US tax dollars. Amusing to have these types around!

And let's not forget Hezbollah drove the zionists out of Lebanon, successfully. :D

Usual bullshit from Israel.

However, I had deja vu when I read this:


Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, called an emergency cabinet meeting and said that he considered the Hezbollah raid was "an act of war" by Lebanon, rather than an isolated terrorist incident, and promised a "very, very, very painful" response.


Does that remind you of anyone in particular?
Here, let me jog your memory.
'THIS WAS NOT AN ACT OF TERROR. IT WAS AN ACT OF WAR!'

Looks like the Israeli admin is going to lead its own people, and its sympathizers, around by the nose-ring yet again.

I thought that Israel learnt its lesson the last time its ass was kicked soundly by the Lebanese. Hmm. I guess they must just be gluttons for punishment. Next they will be asking Hamas insurgents to dress in leather...

They seem to do well at kicking Arab Butt, by themselves, all the a-rabs couldn't beat them in 1947 when they had no equipment, and nothing has changed, except that Israel now has some of the best equipment in the world, and the U.S. has received some very good weapon system up-grades from what,the Israeli modification to equip we provide them, and they have some very good self produced systems.

just drop a few mini-nukes on South Lebanon, and the problem of Hizballah will be solved. according to what i've been reading, Lebanon has no problems with Israel. it has problems with Hizballah and the "Palestinian" scum who terrorize the Lebanese. those 2 groups constantly get Lebanon into trouble.

oh don't forget Syria, which arms both groups.

i really hope there's no need to bomb Lebanese infrastructure. i think it's too much to ask the Lebanese to forcefully disarm Hizballah because they'd be drawn into civil war again. so unfortunately, Israeli lives will have to be put on the line against Hizballah... and as usual, Israel will have nobody but itself to count on to protect itself.

i hope the 2 soldiers will be brought home safely... but under no circumstance should they be traded... no more than for 2 scumbag "Palestinian" or Hizballah terrorists

just drop a few mini-nukes on South Lebanon, and the problem of Hizballah will be solved. according to what i've been reading, Lebanon has no problems with Israel. it has problems with Hizballah and the "Palestinian" scum who terrorize the Lebanese. those 2 groups constantly get Lebanon into trouble.

oh don't forget Syria, which arms both groups.

i really hope there's no need to bomb Lebanese infrastructure. i think it's too much to ask the Lebanese to forcefully disarm Hizballah because they'd be drawn into civil war again. so unfortunately, Israeli lives will have to be put on the line against Hizballah... and as usual, Israel will have nobody but itself to count on to protect itself.

i hope the 2 soldiers will be brought home safely... but under no circumstance should they be traded... no more than for 2 scumbag "Palestinian" or Hizballah terrorists
Nukes? LOL!!

Also, Hezbollah is an Iranian backed shiite militia. They aren't even Arabs. Combining the two together in spitting tirades just displays the low fruit intellect of rightwing trolls. They share the same enemy as Israel has invaded Lebanon and continues to destroy as much Palestinian infrastructure as possible while their pimp in the White House is still in office to turn a blind eye.

"Genji" please get your facts together, Israel was never forced out of Lebanon, It withdrew on its own free accord, no amount of bearded fanatical fighters have the strength to force the jewish state. Today Israel is on the warpath ,..and looks like the soil of Lebanon will burn!!!.

"otheadp" is right, its time to nuke the rag heads and teach em a lesson they and their generations to come will never forget!!!

"Genji" please get your facts together, Israel was never forced out of Lebanon, It withdrew on its own free accord, no amount of bearded fanatical fighters have the strength to force the jewish state. Today Israel is on the warpath ,..and looks like the soil of Lebanon will burn!!!.

"otheadp" is right, its time to nuke the rag heads and teach em a lesson they and their generations to come will never forget!!!
The jews were forced out of Lebanon by Hezbollah. They exacted a steep toll on the jews. You want all of Lebanon to burn?! I can tell you're very young. Lebanon is a majority christian country. Considering you are a conservative christian it's surprising to see you want their civilian population to suffer when they had nothing to do with the defensive actions of anti-zionists. Rightwing trolls are sooo yesterday. You should check out www.godhatesamerica.com for a site leaning more in your political direction. OR you could go suit up and fight with your jews. Chickenhawk breastbeating is a sure sign of incredible immaturity.

I think Israel has a reason to be on the war path. Everyone complains about how aggressive they are being but in reality its only in response to alot of aggressive actions from neighbouring countries.

If Lebanon was serious about being friendly with Israel then they would disarm Hezbollah, but they don't and they won't. Syria is always hostile towards Israel. And with the palestinians lobbing rockets which are bought on the black market through said countries. They are only protecting they're own people by
a) launching an attack on Hamas government buildings
b) sabre rattling with lebanon over Hezbollah

Let em go.

And all those anti zionists can shut the hell up

Genji,
I guess your pro-Arab rhetoric has clouded your facts once again that you fail to see who had the advantage in southern lebanon. I am fully aware of Lebanon's ethnic and religious divisions and know that they do not speak for the nation, its the muslim majority in parliment that calls the shots!!
And Lebanon will suffer the consequences because of this!
Hezbollah and Hamas are more than just freedom fighters they are terrorists with an ideology to impose control and rule over its people for political gain. Anyone with a logical brain will tell you that!!

"Genji" please get your facts together, Israel was never forced out of Lebanon, It withdrew on its own free accord, no amount of bearded fanatical fighters have the strength to force the jewish state. Today Israel is on the warpath ,..and looks like the soil of Lebanon will burn!!!.

"otheadp" is right, its time to nuke the rag heads and teach em a lesson they and their generations to come will never forget!!!

Your right on one account: Soil will burn but it won't be in Lebanon. It's time for Israel to reap what it sowed. It was only a matter of time and the parts are starting to come together nicely. Yes, let the games begin...!!! :D

Seems the only thing people like you understand is force/power/killing. Well, when in Rome...

[and I find your "rag head" comment racist.]

broadandbeaver,
What part of "raghead" do you not understand!!
rag on a head= raghead
If you trying out for a political activist position, you might find a forum somewhere out here!!

broadandbeaver,
What part of "raghead" do you not understand!!
rag on a head= raghead
If you trying out for a political activist position, you might find a forum somewhere out here!!
LOL! Do you hate the ragheads with purple fingers too?

broadandbeaver,
What part of "raghead" do you not understand!!
rag on a head= raghead
If you trying out for a political activist position, you might find a forum somewhere out here!!

Your RAGHEAD comment is racist. What part of your tiny little mind has a problem understanding that?

No, I'm not trying out for a political anything. Your comment is racist and you should be banned for using it.

broadandbeaver,
What part of "raghead" do you not understand!!
rag on a head= raghead
If you trying out for a political activist position, you might find a forum somewhere out here!!
You would fit right in with the US military. The Arabs are good enough to spend a trillion dollars 'saving' from Saddam but our soldiers are into forcing Arab men to perform sex acts for them and our soldiers get off on watching them masturbate! Our soldiers rape their women and kill their families. Low Fruit fills the ranks. What are you waiting for!? JOIN! Then you too can rape, kill and force men to jerk off for trophy photos! Behave like a true white man brother vega!

Genji: Do you have any proof of these allegations or just unsubstantiated reports from individuals?

I see these reports in the media all the time, but most of the time its made by the prisoner who is trying to gain something out of it. Thats what military tribunals are there for, and trust me they're working overtime to investigate these allegations and most of the time throwing them out. Which is something you don't hear.

Yes we all know about the Abu Graib prison scandal, but that was cleared up ages ago... theres no new scandal because they don't exist

Genji: Do you have any proof of these allegations or just unsubstantiated reports from individuals?

I see these reports in the media all the time, but most of the time its made by the prisoner who is trying to gain something out of it. Thats what military tribunals are there for, and trust me they're working overtime to investigate these allegations and most of the time throwing them out. Which is something you don't hear.

Yes we all know about the Abu Graib prison scandal, but that was cleared up ages ago... theres no new scandal because they don't exist

Wow. I can just hear that comment made by King George: " I don't reads the newspapers!"

broadandbeaver: many people should be banned for many things... won't happen though, so i just say put up with comments like that because you'll find them all over the place... grow a backbone lol

Genji: Do you have any proof of these allegations or just unsubstantiated reports from individuals?

I see these reports in the media all the time, but most of the time its made by the prisoner who is trying to gain something out of it. Thats what military tribunals are there for, and trust me they're working overtime to investigate these allegations and most of the time throwing them out. Which is something you don't hear.

Yes we all know about the Abu Graib prison scandal, but that was cleared up ages ago... theres no new scandal because they don't exist
Abu Ghraib was a lie?? It was Made Up by...by....LIBERAL BUDDHIST HOMOSEXUALS!! :eek: The family massacre wasn't true? The US military believes it to be true. You have inside information? Is it a communist conspiracy?! :bugeye:

Genji: I never said that Abu Graib wasn't true... infact if you read my post correctly you'll see that i said it was a scandal... It happened, i know it happened. What i'm saying is that you always hear reports made in the media on these "scandals" and majority of them amount to nothing. I'm just trying to put some context into the picture after your military bashing comment.

Why don't you join the military? if your such a human rights advocate i'm sure they can put you in a cushy job in the legal department. You can investigate these allegations and then you can tell me if they're true or not

Genji: I never said that Abu Graib wasn't true... infact if you read my post correctly you'll see that i said it was a scandal... It happened, i know it happened. What i'm saying is that you always hear reports made in the media on these "scandals" and majority of them amount to nothing. I'm just trying to put some context into the picture after your military bashing comment.

Why don't you join the military? if your such a human rights advocate i'm sure they can put you in a cushy job in the legal department. You can investigate these allegations and then you can tell me if they're true or not
I would never join the US military. Remember the christian crusaders hate fags on top of all the non-whites. Also I'd be far more enthused about joining the enemies of imperialism and racism, displayed with pride by many conservative trolls right here.

Well then until you can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that such occurances are rife, Stop the military bashing. Its pointless... The military is an instrument of policy, not makers of it.

P.S. When i say proof i mean Statements, witnesses, evidence etc etc... until then its just unsubstantiated rumours.

Its nice to see that Genji can slam the US for an isolated incedent but says nothing about the continual Iraqi vs Iraqi violence that kills hundreds of people every week. "Ohh the Military is so bad but that Sunni vs Shite violence its ok....."

Hezbollah drove Isreal out of Lebanon?? LOL Are you on crack???

crazy151drinker: its just interesting to see that people are so quick to blast the US military about stuff, but when it comes to the majority of deaths in Iraq they fail to mention that its insurgents. And when they do its all the US's fault aswell...

I just want people to have perspective on the situation before they start jumping to conclusions. I want facts not exagerated reports in the media. To me this forum is about educating people. Sometimes i argue my opinion but ultimately people need to understand the greater picture.

This is a troll thread and I'm treating it accordingly.

A troll thread? wtf?
lol, i saw a title that interested me and i joined the debate. No malisciousness in it whatsoever. Having said that... WHAT THE HELL IS A TROLL?!?!?

A troll thread??

Many would argue that Hezbollah needs to get its butt kicked.

So for those who Slam Isreal for being nothing but a puppet for the US, why dont you Slam Hezbollah for being nothing but a puppet for Syria and Iran (being that they fund Hezbollah).

A troll thread? wtf?
lol, i saw a title that interested me and i joined the debate. No malisciousness in it whatsoever. Having said that... WHAT THE HELL IS A TROLL?!?!?
Trolls are like vega. They are usually the minority opinion in a site and they drop their little bumperstickers to flame posters and encumber real dialogue. They make silly remarks to stir shit like "Nuke the Ragheads!" and other embarrassing high school antics. They infest boards and ruin true discussion. I sometimes make the mistake of biting their bait then I get in trouble. And if there ever was a troll thread, this is it. A more meaningful and mature heading would have been easy to conjugate but we are talking conservative troll, so......

A troll thread??

Many would argue that Hezbollah needs to get its butt kicked.

So for those who Slam Isreal for being nothing but a puppet for the US, why dont you Slam Hezbollah for being nothing but a puppet for Syria and Iran (being that they fund Hezbollah).
In my view anyone at war with Israel is a political ally of mine. When fighting occupation and apartheid, war and invasion you rally all you can to fight the enemy. No time for questionaires about how this group feels about this or that. It's a war and Hezbollah, Hamas and the rebels of Iraq are fighting the same enemies I have. After such enemy is defeated, THAT is when you deal with the more backward elements. If Palestine were secular and socialist and Lebanon was not regulay invaded by the 51st state I would consider Hezbollah religious extremists and fight THEM. Recall US support of these same groups in the fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Now they have been greatly empowered. The US created al-Qaida and the Islamic insurrection. I just side with those fighting Israel, a rogue terrorist state imo.

Right... so bashing the military the military and insulting every serviceman or women around the world is what then? Oh well...

At the end of the day, Facts are Facts, I'm not in a minority, i don't drop bumperstickers, i just point out the facts. Not my fault if people have a problem with logic.

Right... so bashing the military the military and insulting every serviceman or women around the world is what then? Oh well...

At the end of the day, Facts are Facts, I'm not in a minority, i don't drop bumperstickers, i just point out the facts. Not my fault if people have a problem with logic.
Like I said, troll threads get troll posts. Go ahead and soldier worship. Bow before the great Rumsfeld. Meanwhile I will bash the criminal US military, note their crimes and call for all who can to fight them. Worked in Vietnam, Somalia, Haiti and Lebanon.

Good for you... Infact i'm in the Australian Airforce as a Pilot... So Rumsfeld isn't my man. I don't worship soldiers, i'm just stating the facts. And you just don't seem to be intelligently discussing them. I always say that someone who doesn't reply to an argument with sensible debate, instead opting for Insults, abuse and generally wriggles out of it, is someone who knows they've lost

Kudo's to you

Enjoy the thread! :m:

Genji,
I have had experience with the U.S Military,. I used to be a civilian contractor in Kuwait and I have nothing but the highest respect for the soldiers that put their lives on the line,. Their mission or nature of their operations might not fit in with your pro-arab ideology but they are soldiers and trained to do their job. Just because a bunch of politicans on Capital hill give out the orders to occupy arab land doesn't mean that they are evil. Being a soldier is a job,. You do what your are told.
YOur comments on rape and plunder show that you understand very little of the military and its okay to think that way because wars throughout the centuries have always had civilian atrocities and its wrong to point a finger at the whole army for the misconduct of a few blood thirsty soldiers!!

broadandbeaver,
Coming back to that racist comment you claim I made..your name or title itself sounds like a racist word. I wouldn't want to be called it if I was living in southern germany. It might sound a bit too offensive to the natives!!!.. Try changing it for the sake of a non-racist forum!

Genji,
I have had experience with the U.S Military,. I used to be a civilian contractor in Kuwait and I have nothing but the highest respect for the soldiers that put their lives on the line,. Their mission or nature of their operations might not fit in with your pro-arab ideology but they are soldiers and trained to do their job. Just because a bunch of politicans on Capital hill give out the orders to occupy arab land doesn't mean that they are evil. Being a soldier is a job,. You do what your are told.
YOur comments on rape and plunder show that you understand very little of the military and its okay to think that way because wars throughout the centuries have always had civilian atrocities and its wrong to point a finger at the whole army for the misconduct of a few blood thirsty soldiers!!

broadandbeaver,
Coming back to that racist comment you claim I made..your name or title itself sounds like a racist word. I wouldn't want to be called it if I was living in southern germany. It might sound a bit too offensive to the natives!!!.. Try changing it for the sake of a non-racist forum!
Well said. Though I disagree with your enthusiastic support of all things Israel this post is the most mature I've read of you. I do not believe every single US soldier is a racist murderer. I know there are good young people in the ranks. But IMO, when you put on that uniform you have made a concious descision to seperate yourself from the working class. And become an enemy. An Israeli puts on an IDF uniform is doing the same thing; Joining with the enemies of the workers of the world. Demonstrating a full robotic march in whatever direction you are ordered by the war criminals. If you are ordered to slaughter 1000 Arab men, you do it. Right? My rationale may not be identical to yours but this is where some of my hate for the military (US) comes from.

Genji,
See there you go again!!,. branding an entire nation as " enemy" just because they put on an uniform that you don't like.. What's with the sporadic hatred??,. did a IDF in a bulldozer break down your house in gaza? or did an U.S F-16 fighter bomb the crap out of you?? your arguments are all one sided and do not reflect on the overall situation in the mid-east.

Genji,
See there you go again!!,. branding an entire nation as " enemy" just because they put on an uniform that you don't like.. What's with the sporadic hatred??,. did a IDF in a bulldozer break down your house in gaza? or did an U.S F-16 fighter bomb the crap out of you?? your arguments are all one sided and do not reflect on the overall situation in the mid-east.
My arguments reflect my opinions based on my political party, reading and speaking with people from the region. I'M one sided? Your opening remarks encourage using nukes! Referring to Arabs as 'ragheads!' Talk about 1 sided! You are an open racist! And you point fingers??

The middle east conflict is all about racism and religon and you are an anti-semite by choice..that is your opinion of course..So whatz wrong with using nukes? Iran wants to nuke Israel off the face of the earth,.. so why not?
Arabs are ragheads ,.everyone can clearly see the rag on the head!!,. besides some of my best friends are ragheads,..my best friend is a niger and he doesn't mind!
You can call me what you want. As spacemansteve said "someone who doesn't reply to an argument with sensible debate, instead opting for Insults, abuse and generally wriggles out of it, is someone who knows they've lost"

Ever heard of fallout?

The middle east conflict is all about racism and religon and you are an anti-semite by choice..that is your opinion of course..So whatz wrong with using nukes? Iran wants to nuke Israel off the face of the earth,.. so why not?
Arabs are ragheads ,.everyone can clearly see the rag on the head!!,. besides some of my best friends are ragheads,..my best friend is a niger and he doesn't mind!
You can call me what you want. As spacemansteve said "someone who doesn't reply to an argument with sensible debate, instead opting for Insults, abuse and generally wriggles out of it, is someone who knows they've lost"
You might turn that final sentence your direction. Anyone that uses racial epithets in serious political discussion is not serious and should go back to listening to Prussian Blue at the skinhead rallies. On to the ignore list chevy. You're my first one too.

Next on list Syria and Iran,. They gonna get Israel's spercial treatment,. NUKES!! ,. yeah long live Israel!!!
Yeah Iran certainly will get Israels special treatment , when the Israelis attack Iran they will have to fly through Iraq . So when the Iranians retaliate against Israel they also must go through Iraq , and guess who is sitting there in Iraq ? You guessed it ! 150,000 US military personell right in the path . Yep that sounds about right Isarel will cause trouble and Americans will take the brunt of it .

Yeah , long live Israel on the dead bodies of young American soldiers and may the welfare state of Israel prosper on the usurped wealth of American taxpayers .

Hey if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!!!

Yeah Iran certainly will get Israels special treatment , when the Israelis attack Iran they will have to fly through Iraq . So when the Iranians retaliate against Israel they also must go through Iraq , and guess who is sitting there in Iraq ? You guessed it ! 150,000 US military personell right in the path . Yep that sounds about right Isarel will cause trouble and Americans will take the brunt of it .

Yeah , long live Israel on the dead bodies of young American soldiers and may the welfare state of Israel prosper on the usurped wealth of American taxpayers .
Brian Foley For President!!!! :cool:

Hey if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!!!
I have no doubt American soldiers and American civilians will be taking the heat for this latest murderous Israeli escapade . Whats the bet American taxpayers once agaion foots the bill for this .
Brian Foley For President!!!! :cool:
1st policy cease all welfare payments to Israel .
2nd policy return all Palestinians to their homeland .
This will bring peace to the mideast . Do you want to be my attourney general so we can try Zionist war criminals ? :)

Brian Foley For President!!!! :cool:
You don't have my vote! :p

I have no doubt American soldiers and American civilians will be taking the heat for this latest murderous Israeli escapade . Whats the bet American taxpayers once agaion foots the bill for this .

1st policy cease all welfare payments to Israel .
2nd policy return all Palestinians to their homeland .
This will bring peace to the mideast . Do you want to be my attourney general so we can try Zionist war criminals ? :)
I'm In!! I'll deal with organizing militias to hunt settlers first. To save electricity I'll personally pull the plug on Ariel Sharon.

I'm In!! I'll deal with organizing militias to hunt settlers first.
Ah yes a man of leadership and action a good choice .
To save electricity I'll personally pull the plug on Ariel Sharon.
Hey embalm the fat fucker and put him in a glass case and turn him into a museum human curio entitled "extinct zionist" .

Ah yes a man of leadership and action a good choice .

Hey embalm the fat fucker and put him in a glass case and turn him into a museum human curio entitled "extinct zionist" .
Excellent idea re: the fat butcher. He could also be used to bait gators in need of relocation. We could pack up what's left each time and use him several times over.

Then I begin the IDF Inquiries.

By then you'll have bulldozed the Whining Wall in Jerusalem and the apartheid wall. Even Rotting Reagan would be proud!

very immature guys!!,...or should I say children!

Excellent idea re: the fat butcher. He could also be used to bait gators in need of relocation. We could pack up what's left each time and use him several times over.
Or insert a 10 ft pole into his fat ass turning Sharon into a human popisicle and place him in a wheat field as a scarecrow .
Then I begin the IDF Inquiries.
TYhats the idea make them eat legal ham sandwich ;)
By then you'll have bulldozed the Whining Wall in Jerusalem and the apartheid wall. Even Rotting Reagan would be proud!
I wouldnt stop there Gaza would be filled up with the most avid Zionists , so they can get a taste of the medicine they handed to the Palestinians .

Or insert a 10 ft pole into his fat ass turning Sharon into a human popisicle.
I think this statement gives a little insite into the mind of a frustrated homosexual.

broadandbeaver,
Coming back to that racist comment you claim I made..your name or title itself sounds like a racist word. I wouldn't want to be called it if I was living in southern germany. It might sound a bit too offensive to the natives!!!.. Try changing it for the sake of a non-racist forum!

Broad and Beaver Streets in NYC... Stock exchange? Racist? You may be right!?!?!?

The middle east conflict is all about racism and religon and you are an anti-semite by choice..that is your opinion of course..So whatz wrong with using nukes? Iran wants to nuke Israel off the face of the earth,.. so why not?
Arabs are ragheads ,.everyone can clearly see the rag on the head!!,. besides some of my best friends are ragheads,..my best friend is a niger and he doesn't mind!


You have got to be the most ignorant person on this forum. The frickin' Archie Bunker of Sciforums!

"Yeah , long live Israel on the dead bodies of young American soldiers and may the welfare state of Israel prosper on the usurped wealth of American taxpayers . "

Well you hate Americans anyways so what do you care? Oh thats right, you dont want little Iran to get hurt....

Well you hate Americans anyways so what do you care? Oh thats right, you dont want little Iran to get hurt....
No I kind of think you hate Americans , sought of a self hater , I never hear you speak up for your fellow Americans . You deride Americans on welfare who are poor and homeless yet defend Israel to leech from US tax payers . You are avid in your desire to see more of your fellow countrymen die in useless wars , like Iraq and a future war against Iran , all of which are based on lies . I wonder how you and me would line up , it would be interesting .

You have got to be the most ignorant person on this forum. The frickin' Archie Bunker of Sciforums!
And you must be the most intelligent person on this forum coming from someone who calls himself "broadandbeaver"

Brian:

So the fact that Iran is trying to enrich uranium is a lie made up by the international community? The statements made by the Iranian presidency about destroying Israel is a lie? The 0.2% GNP that US spends on international aid... is all on Israel? Your just an anti-semetic person filled with hate.

People like you seem to get very angry at the Sabre rattling happening with Iran but when it comes to countries like North Korea i hear nothing?
Its just anti-semetic rhetoric that i hear from you, can you please spew it somewhere else?

And you name your self after a failed Chevy product?

I think this statement gives a little insite into the mind of a frustrated homosexual.
Oh no. I'M the homosexual. And insight is spelled this way. And I'm not frustrated but I only just got to work so we'll see....

What part of "raghead" do you not understand!!
rag on a head= raghead

it's a sheet... not a rag.. they're sheet-heads

in typical fashion, Lebanon and Hizballah didn't fulfill their promisses. the former did not disarm Hizballah (as mandated by a UNSC resolution.. the same resolution that told Israel should leave South Lebanon in return for Hizballah stopping its aggression), and the latter did not stop its aggression. instead, realizing that they're raison d'etre not existing anymore, they found another reason. all of a sudden the Sheba'a Farms were occupied too! the UN doesn't think so; the world doesn't think so; Hizballah didn't think so either... but after Israel's withdrawal in 2000 all of a sudden it is! they'll use any excuse to attack Israel

it came as no surprise that this Israeli law-abidance (a.k.a. running away from Lebanon and giving up a strategic security spot) was used as propaganda by terrorists in "Palestinian" occupied Judea, Samaria, and Gaza, and other places, that Israel can be beat with these retarded infidel concepts such as "law" and "resolutions", as well as "martyrdom". After the withdrawal from S.Lebanon in 2000, a few months later, the "Palestinians" started their own campaign of terrorism. The only worthy response was operation Defensive Shield. they couldn't even bomb Arafat!
the response to the intifada? giving Gaza away.. wow. that'll REALLY show them to mess with us!

will THAT lead to peace, as the Ganjis of the world keep thinking? yes. i mean, a couple of rockets fired into Israeli cities every day = no big deal. after all they're home made! ... like cookies. or a pasta sauce
same goes for the monthly kidnap attempts

and let's ignore the fact that the "Palestinians" have armed themselves to the teeth with upgraded guns/rockets/anti-aircraft & tank rockets/RPG/etc.etc.

look. if you give away the "West Bank" and Sheba Farms, the "Palestinians" and "Hizballh" will disarm and sign comprehansive peace agreements. just like they did in the past. there's no need to be "deterent" or "project strength"... after all, those are "aggressive" and "colonial" things that won't guarantee security for anyone.

on a second thought, maybe clearing out S.Lebanon from Hizballah will prevent Hizballah's aggression? and maybe. just MAYBE, clearing out Gaza from weapons will prevent those weapons being used on Israelis? what a crazy idea. also maybe reminding Lebanon of their responsibility will also help. who knows. better THIS than just standing there getting killed and kidnapped

Bush has expressed concern about the new democratically elected christian Lebanese democracy that is still fragile. The new invasion will encourage reactionary muslim elements in the country, as all aggression does. We'll likely see a return to Islamic rule in Lebanon. Neither the Bush Mafia nor the Israelis seem to understand their arbitrary tactics only fuel their enemies. And it's a huge recruiting tool for fundie muslims.

Genji: But from the sounds of things, isn't that what you want? You should be happy if that is going to be the outcome of this fight. More fundi muslims to gang up on Israel :bugeye:

Genji: But from the sounds of things, isn't that what you want? You should be happy if that is going to be the outcome of this fight. More fundi muslims to gang up on Israel :bugeye:
The current situation certainly presents some serious problems for US/Israeli and Western interests in a region already becoming more unstable by the month. Expect US troops to be in Lebanon again before the end of the year. Perhaps this time they won't run after one bombing.

lol, i think you misunderstand the situation. For the better part of 60years, the US has stayed out of Israels affairs, why would they want to change that? Just because they've got troops over the border? No way. The US government already knows that its current Middle East policy is a bit contraversial, and destabalising the region is only going to put further strain on that. If US joined the fight against Hezbollah do you think other countries such as Syria and Jordan are going to stand for that? No.

Also what about Oil Prices? The US knows that the world Oil Market is being hit heavily by its actions in Iraq, and further action in the middle east will upset the fragile oil market heavily. The result of this? The US market will see a decline, the world economy will be hit heavily.

I don't think the US administration is too stupid to do something like that. Considering all the Liberals around the world claim that bush is in bed with oil executives

Yes, go Israel! Start fighting while the U.S. is currently at war in the Middle East to piss off even more Arabs! Perhaps Israel will finally break the straw on the camel's back leaving our soldiers trapped and surrounded by some pissed off Muslims. Yes, go Israel, send our soldiers to their deaths for your Zionist conquests! :rolleyes:

- N

let's sacrifice Israel to the A-rabs so they stop hating the infidel

Also what about Oil Prices? The US knows that the world Oil Market is being hit heavily by its actions in Iraq, and further action in the middle east will upset the fragile oil market heavily. The result of this? The US market will see a decline, the world economy will be hit heavily.

I don't think the US administration is too stupid to do something like that
So? Oil executives love high oil prices, to a degree, meaning as long as people keep on driving. Bush doesn't care about the well-being of the common people, as long as the people that contribute to republican campaigns keep making money.

let's sacrifice Israel to the A-rabs so they stop hating the infidel

Positively Splendid idea.

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Quit all this fussin' & fightin' and sing this happy tune together...

Neighborhood Bully
Bob Dylan

Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he knocked out a lynch mob, he was criticized,
Old women condemned him, said he should apologize.
Then he destroyed a bomb factory, nobody was glad.
The bombs were meant for him.
He was supposed to feel bad.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, the chances are against it and the odds are slim
That he'll live by the rules that the world makes for him,
'Cause there's a noose at his neck and a gun at his back
And a license to kill him is given out to every maniac.
He's the neighborhood bully.

He got no allies to really speak of.
What he gets he must pay for, he don't get it out of love.
He buys obsolete weapons and he won't be denied
But no one sends flesh and blood to fight by his side.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Well, he's surrounded by pacifists who all want peace,
They pray for it nightly that the bloodshed must cease.
Now, they wouldn't hurt a fly.
To hurt one they would weep.
They lay and they wait for this bully to fall asleep.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Every empire that's enslaved him is gone,
Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.
He's made a garden of paradise in the desert sand,
In bed with nobody, under no one's command.
He's the neighborhood bully.

Now his holiest books have been trampled upon,
No contract he signed was worth what it was written on.
He took the crumbs of the world and he turned it into wealth,
Took sickness and disease and he turned it into health.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What's anybody indebted to him for?
Nothin', they say.
He just likes to cause war.
Pride and prejudice and superstition indeed,
They wait for this bully like a dog waits to feed.
He's the neighborhood bully.

What has he done to wear so many scars?
Does he change the course of rivers?
Does he pollute the moon and stars?
Neighborhood bully, standing on the hill,
Running out the clock, time standing still,
Neighborhood bully.

;)

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It is correct that lebanon is majority christian country.

for israel to retaliate on civilains and civilian infrastructure to this extent - because 2 soldiers were kidnapped by hezbollah, illustrates israels extremism.
when they kidnapped that other soldier, israel bombed 3 civilian bridges.
it is this over-reaction that much of the world condemns the most.

sooner or later israel will be at war with so many of its neighbours that its neighbours will decide that the only way to survive is to close in.

lebanon government has only two hezbollah supporters in it so i feel that it is entirely unfair to bomb lebanon. its not secret knowledge that hezbollah mainly stay in the south so to bomb beirut is pointless

devilsreject:
lebanon government has only two hezbollah supporters in it so i feel that it is entirely unfair to bomb lebanon.

I've heard that there were 23 Hezbollah supporters in the Lebanese government, which is still a relatively small proportion (18%).

Do you have any sources to back up your 2 claim?

hello Vega and Otheado,
I hope you are both well

i read you comments espically from page 1 with great interest.

Is Ann coulter your mentor by the way. Ann Coulter is incredible!!

bascially all the problems of today with Israel, palestine etc.... is Pakistans fault??

I blame pakistan completely for all of this.

Hi Zakariya04,

How does Pakistan fit into all this?

devilsreject:

I've heard that there were 23 Hezbollah supporters in the Lebanese government, which is still a relatively small proportion (18%).

Do you have any sources to back up your 2 claim?
i dont sorry i only heard it last night on newsnight

Hi Zakariya04,

How does Pakistan fit into all this?


Its not comletely their fault, sorry, i was exagerating before, however i do blame them for a lot of the ongoing mess. however they did not start the mess initially.

I will reveal the fall report on why it is pakistans fault shortly, when i can write with a bit more cohesion

Without commenting on the overall right and wrong of the situation, I have to say that calling the attack an "act of war by Lebanon" is bogus. Lebanon is hardly a functional state and everyone knows that what passes for a national government has zero power in the south.

You can hardly blame the Lebanese people for not being strong enough to keep Hezbollah from having such a position of strength within Lebanon, when it's being aided and financed by Syria and Iran, two huge countries with the publicly stated goal of destroying Israel.

It is a difficult judgment call to make a military decision that collateral damage among Lebanese civilians and Lebanese infrastructure is necessary in order to protect Israel. We will all fall predictably on both sides of that issue depending on our customary pro- or anti-Israel stances. But Lebanon did not launch this attack, terrorists did. It cannot be used as an excuse to make war on Lebanon indiscriminately. To do so diminishes Israel's moral position.

Vega I am with you on this one.

Hi Zakariya04,

How does Pakistan fit into all this?
HEY Vega,

i hope you are well and had a good weekend

People would say pakistan can fit in to this in a couple of ways:

1) Pakistan has not done enough for the war on terror, this has enhanced Al-Queda's position and thus given moral support and enhancement to other islamic militants.

2) Pakistan being the only Islamic country with nukes should give a couple to Syria and Iran, and also the technology to make their own versions. This will add ballance to the middleeast through MAD. therefore their will be equal footing when it comes to negotiations.

You can hardly blame the Lebanese people for not being strong enough to keep Hezbollah from having such a position of strength within Lebanon, when it's being aided and financed by Syria and Iran, two huge countries with the publicly stated goal of destroying Israel.
Right, but Israel is not punishing the citizens of Lebanon, it is trying to reduce an obvious threat by the only means at their disposal.

Zakariya04 ,

Your arguments are valid and do have dangerous outcomes in the long term..
Pakistan could be aiding Iran as we speak in developing nuclear weapons!!
One thing for certain muslim countries always share their brotherly love!!

Kiwi123 ,
Thanks for your support on this!!

HEY Vega,

2) Pakistan being the only Islamic country with nukes should give a couple to Syria and Iran, and also the technology to make their own versions. This will add ballance to the middleeast through MAD. therefore their will be equal footing when it comes to negotiations.

Excellent option! MAD is the only sure way to stop all this killing. Lets make this happen. Let it be so!!!

but Israel is not punishing the citizens of Lebanon, it is trying to reduce an obvious threat by the only means at their disposal.

The effect of Israel's bombings and so on is to punish the general population.

So far, it is estimated that about 90% of people killed by Israel in Lebanon during the current conflict have been innocent civilians.

by the way folks my option1 was actually sarcastic. People state that Pakistan has lost more troops to the war on terror than the US. However we must draw different lines between what the Musharraf wants and what the lower echelons of the Pakistani society want to acheive. Remember that "the General" has had a few assasination attempts his way so it is for his personal benefit that the islamic militants get into line

Israel is a helpless wart on humanity. Without full US welfare to pay for their army their god given holy land would belong to the Palestinians. As long as Israel is an unchecked aggressor against it's neighbors and the native population it will lose soldiers and civilians too. Surprising real conservatives are not supportive of Israel (Buchanan, Novak) and armchair racist chickenhawks here in the US are. They support a non-christian, foreign nation built on US tax dollars. Amusing to have these types around!


Please. Israel may be a non-christian nation, but they are gods chosen people and it is their god given holy land, and they have every right to defend it against all arabs. And since the U.S. is a mainly christian nation than by god it is our god given duty to defend them in all things.

So Israel is defending their own lands in Lebanon? Doesn't that really say that Lebanon belongs to Israel?

So yeah, terrorist kill and scare Israelis. So yeah, there's been this agreement that the Lebanese government should stop this. But what in gods name are the Israelis trying to achive by this strike?!

Lebanese government failed to root out terrorists in their country; Because it's a new democratic state, and no democracy has ever STARTED out that great. Remember France? Or US at that..
And they're poor. So lets bomb them to the stone age!! That ought to give them the incensitive to do a better job!

Scaring people might have worked IN THE DARK AGES, but these days people only fight back harder. You know, the whole "Death Over Slavery" theme? People are willing to fight for their freedom. So trying to spook people into not killing jews kinda backfires. Lebanese will be poorer, and they'll hate Israel even more. Both of these factors create terrorists. In a word, the Israelis has made terrorists day; Funding, help and manpower has just been increased tenfold. People who thought Hizbollah was wrong now take their side. And they will hide and support them, too.

On a sidenote, Israel isn't doing anything the US hasn't done before. They're just following given examples and accepted doctorines.