Italian royals' exile nearing end

Italy has taken another step towards ending the 56-year exile of the former royal family.

The lower house of the Italian parliament today voted to overturn the constitutional ban on the male members of the house of Savoy returning to the country.

The measure has already been passed by the upper house and must be approved again by both chambers.

Correspondents say today's clear vote in the lower house means that the ban is likely to be lifted over the coming months.

The ban was enacted after the World War II, because King Vittorio Emanuele collaborated with Mussolini and approved anti-Semitic race laws.

His heirs have pledged their loyalty to the constitution of the Italian republic


The Italian royal family will get their slimey feet in the door then there will be no getting rid of them. They collaborated with the Nazis during the second WW and backed race laws. They are evil they should not be allowed back in italy.
another news artical (http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3782-1809207,00.html)

What do you people think?

The great great grandfather was NOT Italian so this means they were not even nationals in the first instance! They will want to introduce a democratic monarchy like in England and Spain, this is a sad day for the republic if they get their wishes.

History (http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/gotha/savoyhis.htm)

A friend of mine's grandfather was in the SS. Should my friend be allowed into Canada? Should I fear him? I mean, the way you make it sound, obviously if his grandfather was a Nazi through-and-through, he must be.

No, you dont understand Tyler. The italian royalty was responsible for 1000's of deaths, they collaborated with the enemy. They had control over a country and werent even nationals originally as well as the English royal family who were originally german. Tyler, you surprise me, you are usually very logical. They're family should be punished, how could they do what they did to their 'own' country? They were exiled for a reason, they should be made to suffer just like the families of the victims they caused.

If you kill 20 people should your son go to jail? Now Captain, I'm against royalty being in power, period. So I believe thuroughly that they should not be reinstated as royalty. However, how is it wrong to allow sons of people who commited crimes back in as citizens???

Perhaps, and this is very possible, I am missing something. A family backed Mussolini and racist laws. Now the sons of this family are being allowed back in. Question - did the people currently being let back in the country actually support (as in, were they of age to fight in the war/sign laws/be in power and did so) Hitler? Or was it their parents who supported Hitler?

The Savoy family is expected to return to Italy later this month, more than five decades after the male heirs were banished from their homeland for collaborating with Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini.


They are the same people that collaborated with the nazis (i strongly believe). Only the son had not been in power.

What someone's parents did, they are not responsible for. Any mussolini collaborators, if still alive, would be as old as dirt.

I cant see any good reason to keep them out. If you must ban someone ban those actually ALIVE at the time.

Did you read my last post?
It is the collaborator and his son that is returning( i think, he he)
Anyway, its very difficult for anybody that doesnt have links to the old country to understand.

Ah, well in that case I don't feel anyone who sided with Hitler while in that kind of power should be a free man anyway. His son though....

i must stress that i think, i cant find any info on actual events or which monarchs it was who collaborated. :(

Then why post a position when you don't know what the facts are? If you ever travel to this side of the Atlantic, I am sure this tendancy will open many career oportunities with the American media. ;)Originally posted by Captain_Crunch
The Italian royal family will get their slimey feet in the door then there will be no getting rid of them. They collaborated with the Nazis during the second WW and backed race laws.It was King Victor Emmanuel III who enacted the laws which led to the deportation of Jews. He abdicated the throne in 1946 and is presently deceased. His son, Umberto, sat on the throne for a month before fleeing Italy with his nine-year-old son, Vittorio Emanuele. Umberto is presently deceased, Vittorio is now 64. The current crown prince, Emanuele Filiberto, has never been to Italy.

Former Prime Minister Giuliano Amato said he hoped the family would be able to return. The current Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi, promised to allow their return. The Italian Parliment voted to reverse the constitutional ban that forbade their return (your link is rather dated). Current public sentiment seems to favor allowing them to return. They are evil they should not be allowed back in italy.Why do you believe the Savoys should continue to pay for the sins of their fathers?

Peace.

They'll probably not want to make any more big mistakes. If they can get exiled once, they can get exiled a million times.

I think that they'll be ever careful this time around

Who are they?
The living bembers of the royals family have done nothing!
How can they be "ever careful this time around"?

:rolleyes:

I know that the members that were originally exiled aren't around anymore

I'm getting at the point that their children will be very cautious with what they do for a while.

Even though I am against the idea of Monarchy, I don't see why they should be punished for other peoples mistakes

Really Sorry Goofy. :(
I still think they should not be allowed back.
Its a republic and should not return to anysort of democratic royalty reform.

The Royals were deported for a reason, people forget this. If they exiled them this means they didnt want a Royalty for italy but now they come back? They want to re-instate themselves ( I have actually read that recently ) I cannot accept they should be allowed back reguardless if they are the heirs to the throne or they were not the actual people that did collaborated. I think you will find that these particular Royals were bad to the italian people for years before the WW2 ever began. During victorian times during the rececion people couldnt even eat, meanwhile they sat in their Palaces (yes, they have 3) with solid gold baths etc, with lots of food and money while people were dying. I am terribly anti-royalty - I dont believe they should be allowed back. If they fled they must have realised they had done wrong, even themselves had guilty concienses (sp).

Originally posted by Captain_Crunch
Really Sorry GoofyWhy?!?! It's a discussion! :)If they exiled them this means they didnt want a Royalty for italy but now they come back? They want to re-instate themselves ( I have actually read that recently )Where? The last I read, the Savoys had issued a condemnation of Mussolini's race laws, and agreed to swear an oath of loyalty to the Italian Republican constitution.I think you will find that these particular Royals were bad to the italian people for years before the WW2 ever began. During victorian times during the rececion people couldnt even eat, meanwhile they sat in their Palaces (yes, they have 3) with solid gold baths etc, with lots of food and money while people were dying.Actually, I think we'll find that many royals did not always have the best interest of their people in mind.If they fled they must have realised they had done wrong, even themselves had guilty concienses (sp).Children who were not born during the times to which you refer realize they have done wrong?? Come on, you cannot be serious.

Peace.

Where? The last I read, the Savoys had issued a condemnation of Mussolini's race laws, and agreed to swear an oath of loyalty to the Italian Republican constitution.
But die-hard royalists still cling to hopes that one day Italy could opt for a democratic monarchy like those in England or Spain.


oops, i read this wrongly. I read it as saying the die-hard royals still cling onto hopes etc..

Its the principle of the situation.

Children who were not born during the times to which you refer realize they have done wrong?? Come on, you cannot be serious.


I am deadly serious, once they are back in, they will get reinstated. it will happen if they are given the chance. Why cant they just count themselves lucky that they are rid of them?