It's all good...

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by disease, Feb 4, 2009.

  1. disease Banned Banned

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    When your dealer, sorry, doctor, who has you on Vicodin tells you, when you ask him "what do you usually do to get your patients off this stuff?", says, "Well, we'll just have to see how you go". Uh huh...

    At least I could thank the dude for making my connection.

    "She was practiced at the art, of deception,
    I could tell, by her bloodstained hands..."
     
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  3. John99 Banned Banned

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    Vicodin? Horrible, horrible.
     
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  5. disease Banned Banned

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    Not if you take the buggers.
     
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  7. jessiej920 Shake them dice and roll 'em Valued Senior Member

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    Eh? I am con-fu-sed. Are you addicted? Is that the issue? Let me tell you, just quit cold turkey. DO NOT do drug replacement therapy, it only prolongs your addiction and detoxing is much worse, believe me. I have chronic back pain from several car accidents and when I told my doctor that I wanted to stop taking pain killers because I didn't want to get addicted he put me on this nasty stuff called suboxone. It was hell on earth. It made me soooo sick.

    The best thing to do is to just quit refilling your prescription, deal with any WD symptoms for a week, and then move on. Find alternative ways to deal with the pain. It's better then being reliant on pills.
     
  8. disease Banned Banned

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    I've been on 120mg a day, for weeks.
    I asked when he first prescribed them about side-effects, like not being able to sleep because you "need" a pill, after telling him my busted clavicle (distal fracture) wakes me up when it hurts sometimes.

    Unfortunately, to treat pain you have to take them 2-3 hours before they work. Now I have a sore shoulder, and I'm addicted to painkillers. But "let's see how we go"...
     
  9. jessiej920 Shake them dice and roll 'em Valued Senior Member

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    120 mg daily?! What strength of vicodin are you taking? The generic is usually 5/500 (5 mg of hydrocodone/500 of acetaminophen). If you are taking 120 mg of just hydro a day that's 24 pills a day...that's way too much; you aren't supposed to exceed 8 pills a day. If you are taking 10/325 vicodin's then you are still taking 12 pills a day which also exceeds the recommended limit which is probably why u are addicted. Also, the longer u take them, the higher your tolerance becomes so u have to take more to achieve the desired effect which also leads to addiction.

    I understand how awful it is to be in pain, but I would talk to your doctor about tapering you off them slowly. Like I said, I would not recommend drug replacement therapy. Many doctors are pushing suboxone as the new 'wonder' drug for addiction to opiates, but I can say from experience that it only made everything worse for me. The suboxone was way to strong for me (as I wasn't really addicted) and it also takes much longer to work its way out of your system (up to a month), while vicodin is usually out within 3-5 days. Suboxone clings to the opiate receptors in your brain and the withdrawal symptoms are much worse then if you were to just go cold turkey off the vicodin.

    I'm not a doctor, but I would recommend getting off the painkillers as soon as possible. I found that once I quit taking them, after a few months my pain was actually much better because my body began to adjust to the pain naturally rather then relying on a chemical substance that simply masked it.
     
  10. disease Banned Banned

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    Ah yes, the vagaries of medicants, and what they do to your pov.
    This stuff isn't actually Vicodin, it's in the same family though. Dihydrocodeine. Not even oxycodone (grumble).
     
  11. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Why the reference to the Rolling Stones?
     
  12. disease Banned Banned

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    I saw her today at the reception
    A glass of wine in her hand
    I knew she was gonna meet her connection
    At her feet was her footloose man

    You can't always get what you want
    You can't always get what you want
    You can't always get what you want
    But if you try sometimes you might find
    You get what you need

    Oh yeah, hey hey hey, oh...

    And I went down to the demonstration
    To get my fair share of abuse
    Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration
    If we don't we're gonna blow a 50-amp fuse"
    Sing it to me now...

    You can't always get what you want
    You can't always get what you want
    You can't always get what you want
    But if you try sometimes well you just might find
    You get what you need
    Oh baby, yeah, yeah!

    I went down to the Chelsea drugstore
    To get your prescription filled
    I was standing in line with Mr. Jimmy
    And man, did he look pretty ill
    We decided that we would have a soda
    My favorite flavor, cherry red
    I sung my song to Mr. Jimmy
    Yeah, and he said one word to me, and that was "dead"
    I said to him

    You can't always get what you want, no!
    You can't always get what you want (tell ya baby)
    You can't always get what you want (no)
    But if you try sometimes you just might find
    You get what you need
    Oh yes! Woo!

    You get what you need--yeah, oh baby!
    Oh yeah!

    I saw her today at the reception
    In her glass was a bleeding man
    She was practiced at the art of deception
    Well I could tell by her blood-stained hands

    You can't always get what you want
    You can't always get what you want
    You can't always get what you want
    But if you try sometimes you just might find
    You just might find
    You get what you need
     
  13. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Vicodin is a great pain killer for a few weeks at best, after that its affects seem to drop off and something stronger is needed, at least in my case it was, so they either increased my dosage or switched me to another painkiller. They made me itch all over and feel all yukky after a few weeks of taking them, a rather bad feeling I had. I did not care that much taking them so it was easy to stop .
     
  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, this explains a few things..
     
  15. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    What does that mean?:shrug:
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    He thinks the stimuli needed for perception come from the mind.
     
  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    For the most part it does.
     
  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Are you on stuff as well ?

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  19. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    From time to time I have used pain killers and now am on Tramadol along with epidural shots as well, every 2 months , for my lower back and neck disk problems.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    See ?

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    Read this thread: Objective truth - from a Buddhist perspective #01
     
  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But that pain is coming from my brain even if my problem happens in my back, leg and neck area, I still feel it through my brain.
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sorry to hear that Cosmic, I never figured. You always seem to be in a good mood on here.
     
  23. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Neck disc problems? What's wrong? I have 2 bulging discs in my upper back and had severe neck pain for well over 6 mnths. I am much better now but I still have bad days. I am taking something called Ralivia.

    http://www.healthyontario.com/DrugDetails.aspx?brand_id=4973&brand_name=Ralivia
     

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