Obama just sent a message to Netanyahu not to surprise the US with an Iran strike. The odd thing is that he is scheduled to meet Netanyahu on Monday but could not wait till then, instead sending the message with an [unnamed] American official to Israel/ http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085466.html
In the end, the plan is always to destroy and cripple strong and independent Muslim nations. Pakistan, Iran, and Iraq (pre-Gulf war) are just classic examples. All the nations they have weakened using regime change and assassination of charismatic leaders (Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, King Faisal bin Abdul Aziz, etc.). The same game, repeating over and over again.
Holy shit. They're actually serious about this :S I thought they were only bluffing up to now, trying to cajole the world into taking action by playing it 'crazy', but now I see that even without the American military's help, Israel is fully capable of doing it by themselves, and are in fact getting ready. I hope they won't do it... though I don't see they have any other options... I thought DinnerJacket was on his way out, but according to recent polls, he is heading for a strong victory. In that case, there really isn't another way, is there? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Most of the Israeli public favors an attack on Iran. http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/7...-of-jewish-israelis-favor-strike-on-iran.html Maybe the Israelis should just move out of the Middle East. They are getting extremely tiresome.
I can certainly understand why. Nobody wants to make a serious move against Khameni and DinnerJacket's quest for the bomb. As the ones being directly affected by it, Israelis would be the ones to protest the loudest. Maybe you should just move out of the States and switch to a stronger medication. You are getting extremely tiresome. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
This issue has been brewing for years. As DH points out Israel/US (Interchangeable) have consistently weakened Arab/Muslim States as they show potential for becoming regional powers. The old Colonial strategy of divide and conquer is unashamedly pursued. This strategy does not baulk at the potential slaughter of thousands of innocents in this scenario. I would not count on Obama to bring any sanity or moderation to the table. As one can see, since he took over the US wars of aggression have only escalated. Here is a decent paper on the topic. The Bomb Iran Faction - An Existential Question for the Power Elite? (Article by Gary Leupp is Professor of History at Tufts University, and Adjunct Professor of Religion. - http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13592)
This is hysterical, you had Obama running on a platform of 'change' and 'hope' and what do we have but an new boss continuing like the old boss. Obama is notihing but a more suave and intelligent, visually enhanced version of the old boss continuing the same old foreign affairs racket. "I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again No, no! Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Meet the new boss Same as the old boss" The Who lyrics 'Won't get fooled again'
It seems the U.S hasn't learned from its former blunders. Chatham House, the Royal Institute of Foreign Affairs, has put out this report on the Obama administration and what it faces concerning global issues: 'The United States must overcome the fact that it is frequently seen as being part of the global problem rather than the source of the solution. The contradictions between the values that the United States promotes and the actions that it has taken internationally have become increasingly apparent.' 'Nothing would be more corrosive of the aspiration to renew America’s global leadership than the impression that it is acting on the basis of hypocrisy or double standards’ http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/publications/papers/view/-/id/706/
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/may/13/aipac-iran-us-obama) Pray that sanity prevails.
Mmmm...Let me see. Iran has said they would destroy Israel if they had the military hardware to do so. That has been Irans policy for a number of years, since before the Israeli/Egytian war. So we as the world stand by and watch Iran develope a weapon of mass destruction. Wasn't that why Bush invaded Iraq? So what if a nation should use first strike capability to warrant off being destroyed. Im sure those of you who oppose the strike would do the same if it was their homeland in peril...smiles. I think not.. When it comes to your life or survival of your loved ones you would be the first to push the button. Your a liar if you say you wouldn't. It would be like letting someone through your front door knowing they were going to shoot everyone inside. Shit, give me a break...
Zionists have invoked Amalek in their rhetoric against Iran. "... strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." (1 Sam. 15:2-3). Just what we need, a bunch of Zionist yahoos with their brain in 1000 BC, armed with nukes and looking to first strike their neighbors for fear of their racist state being held up to scrutiny. although seems to me that rather than seek the destruction of Amalekite arsenal, the teaching is to seek the destruction of every living thing in Amalek itself. Paranoia will kill you.
Yeah S.A.M, I agree. Very very dangerous Zionist Israelis yahoos. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
This is so much BS. I challenge you to provide evidence for your statement. Evidence? Um. The were no WMD. You are a perfect slave to the paranoia you are being fed. You would make a good grunt.
You are right of course, and those who don't see it are just so far-removed from the situation they can't see straight. I think when you have a personal stake in it, when your own or your family's physical safety is involved (and your friends' and parents' and neighbours' and your entire people's, given the world's reputation either in persecuting and killing you and yours, and/or standing by and letting it happen) you might be singing a different song, not one of demagoguery and armchair pacifism (or in some cases blind naivete or even anti-Semitism). You sir are a nincompoop. Please present evidence to the contrary. Do you understand that Iran and the Arab nations in the neighbourhood have been enemies for HUNDREDS of years, if not more? Before modern Zionism was even born, and before America was established? This is not ONLY about Shia vs. Sunni. This is about domination of that part of the world. About land, resources, power, etc. - you know, the typical reasons for any war. Read the headlines in the Arab and Iranian press about each other. The only thing they agree on is that they don't like Israel. But other than that, they hate eachother. Israel is making the most noise about Iran's nuclear bomb, but who is REALLY afraid is the Arab countries. And what are they doing about it? They are planning to start their own nuclear programs to counter Iran's. So what you'll have is a bunch of middle eastern countries, each armed with a nuclear bomb. Wonderful scenario, isn't it... That's a threat to everybody, not Israel - especially those Arab countries. One simple example of which we see today in Pakistan where the country could potentially have a revolution, and its nuclear arsenal would fall into Taliban's hands. This exact scenario can repeat itself in Saudi Arabia (who is extreme enough as it is, but who has an even worse bunch of extremists who want to overthrough the regime), Algeria, Yemen, Egypt, etc. And of course if one terrorist group gets it, they'll share it with their buddies through the huge and unenforceable borders between these countries. You and your types are so incessantly obsessed with Israel that you keep missing the big picture. As usual.
So a country that builds defense systems is bent on global domination while one that occupies land because God gave it to them is not a psychonation. Thank God Obama is not taken in. Obviously Nut and Yahoo will have to try harder to package their psychosis as reason.
That's a lie. The Persians and Arabs readily married, especially in Iraq, Iran, and Gulf region. The Persians and Arabs are related to each other by faith and culture, they have also been related. The modern rulers of Iran are Sayyid, which means they are of Arab descent. All colonizers attempt to justify their murder and oppression by claiming rival indigenous groups were fighting each other, therefore a foreign group was justified in stealing their land and massacring them. How do you think America, Australia, Canada, and Israel were established? The enemies of Muslims always stress irrelevant points. Its quite obvious the US attempts to emulate their manufactured civil war in Iraq to other Muslim countries, however most Muslim countries will not fall to this. It took decades of planning to bring down Iraq from an aspiring Arab regional power to an impoverished nation when the US invaded. Israel would know perfectly well about this. They are the biggest war-mongerers in the Middle East. You should visit Iran, most of their heroes are Arab leaders and Arab scholars of the past. Same with the Arab world, many of the greatest scholars of Islam were Iranian (Khwarezmi, Bukhari (persianized Turk), Ibn Sina, etc) and one of the earliest Muslim heroes was Salman al Farsi. The Israelis love to manufacture and misinform people about supposed animosities of their enemies, when actually their aren't anything of substance in this argument. The Arab governments are American puppets, and you should know this very well. The reason they oppose Iran is at the behest of America and the danger to their business with the Western nations. They are traitors, majority of the Arab populace hate their leaders too. The Arabs and Muslims of the world are more concerned with Israel's nuclear weapons than any supposed threat from Iran. Israel used illegal white phosphorous chemical weapons against civilians in Gaza. They are far more dangerous to the Arab world than Iran can ever be. Iran is an ally of the Arabs, they support the Palestinian struggle even after many Arab puppet governments are showing their indifference at the behest of their American masters. Israel attempted to blow up Pakistan's nuclear reactor in Kahuta in 1982. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEyX7FQqIHQ This has always been the Israeli plan. To impede and cripple the inevitable rise of the Islamic nations of the world. Israel's meddling hands have been completely directed against the Muslim world and Islam in general. http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m49672&s1=h1 Pakistan's nuclear weapons are in no way under threat. This is a thinly veiled attempt to force Pakistan to end its nuclear program and gain worldwide support for this initiative by US, Israel, and India. No one knows the exact location of the nuclear weapons but a few high government officials, they are moved every few hours and well-hidden. If Pakistan does face a revolution, it will be an internal one from within the present government and its opposition parties in conjunction with the military. All sudden change of power in Pakistan have been nonviolent coup d'etat, it is unlikely this pattern will change. As stated before, the TTP are a fringe movement which are even discredited by the Afghani resistance (which include the former Taliban). You should read more about these topics before making misleading statements. Nothing but fear mongering. Israel, which invaded all of its neighbors, at the behest of whom America invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and not threatens Iran and Pakistan. A colonial nation which is constantly afraid of its enemies, magnifying their threats to ridiculous proportions. This is one of the curses of the oppressors, they can't sleep at night. The big picture is that Israel is occupying sovereign Palestinian Muslim and Christian land. Until there is freedom in Palestine, Israel will always be the enemy. As long as Israel encourages the invasion and destabilization of sovereign Muslim states such as Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia, Israel will be the enemy. As long as Israel pressures Western politics to support their agendas of destabilization of the Muslim world, Israel will be the enemy. Israel can still make amends, but this is doubtful as observed by the past. Israel doesn't want peace, they never did. they want to expand their territories beyond, into Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon. This is why they invaded and destroyed Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2008. Were it not for the courageous stand of a few thousand resistance fighters against the huge Israeli onslaught, these lands would have been occupied and its populations massacred.
I sir, admit to a blissful state of nincompoopery. No. Iran has initiated no conflict in at least the last thousand years. Yes, yes, Persians/Arabs. But no war. Everybody bitches the world over. Once again, no war or even a hint of war. Of course the FACT remains that there is NO evidence for an Iranian military nuclear program. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Oh goodness. G-d forbid! But the US is quite happy to keep sending them armed drones in when they have been REPEATEDLY warned by the Pakistani government that it will escalate the conflict. What to do? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! But the Saudis have their good buddy Uncle Sam to look after their extremist peeps, and keep them safe. Here`s a plan. De nuke Israel, and get the US out of the ME and Eastern Asia. Problem solved.
